Re: Stus-List Harken roller furler failure

[Joel Aronson via CnC-List]

Id call harken. They are very helpful

Joel

On Tuesday, September 8, 2015, Dr. Mark Bodnar via CnC-List <
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>
>
> Had a catastrophic failure of my Harken roller furler today.
>
> Last 3 times out the furler has been sticking a bit - thought it got
> better with tightening my backstay, but then same problem again.
> Dropped the jib - furler spun freely with no sail so I figured I was
> catching something up top.  Re-taped halyard and ran the jib back up to
> test - stuck again part way out then all of a sudden it was raining small
> bearings - And no I didn't reef on it or winch it - I was just tugging
> it looking to see where is was catching and it let go.
> Sail dropped with half the top furling mechanism - left the halyard up top
> with the other half of the mechanism.
>
> I've not gone up the mast yet to rescue the remaining parts and halyard -
> but I'm pretty sure that there was a top spring clip that let go - when it
> popped out the whole top swivel set just sprayed everywhere.  I rescued a
> few of the bearings - light brown, plastic, 3/8" (9.58mm) -- I think all
> the other parts ring the furler and therefore can't disappear.
>
> So the big question - can I buy new bearings and a spring clip and rebuild
> the swivel in place (assuming that it was the spring clip that failed).
> I'm hoping I don't need to kick for a whole new furler.  Replacing the
> whole top swivel would be a pain as I'd have to dismantle the furler and
> the forestay to get the old one off and replaced.
>
>
> Sorry I didn't get any pic's - was dark on return to the dock and I forgot.
>
> Still had a great sail today - left the dock at 11:30am --- back to the
> dock at 11pm.  First time coming back in the dark! Stars out, phosphorecent
> sparkles in the water. And a clean docking!
>
> Mark
>
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Re: Stus-List Harken roller furler failure

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

Ditto.  Very good customer service.

I suspect the Torlon ball bearings are readily available from Harken.  Not
sure about any other parts.

Never heard of a swivel failure on a Harken.  Let us known how this goes.

Dennis C.

On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 5:16 AM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Id call harken. They are very helpful
>
> Joel
>
>
> On Tuesday, September 8, 2015, Dr. Mark Bodnar via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Had a catastrophic failure of my Harken roller furler today.
>>
>> Last 3 times out the furler has been sticking a bit - thought it got
>> better with tightening my backstay, but then same problem again.
>> Dropped the jib - furler spun freely with no sail so I figured I was
>> catching something up top.  Re-taped halyard and ran the jib back up to
>> test - stuck again part way out then all of a sudden it was raining small
>> bearings - And no I didn't reef on it or winch it - I was just tugging
>> it looking to see where is was catching and it let go.
>> Sail dropped with half the top furling mechanism - left the halyard up
>> top with the other half of the mechanism.
>>
>> I've not gone up the mast yet to rescue the remaining parts and halyard -
>> but I'm pretty sure that there was a top spring clip that let go - when it
>> popped out the whole top swivel set just sprayed everywhere.  I rescued a
>> few of the bearings - light brown, plastic, 3/8" (9.58mm) -- I think all
>> the other parts ring the furler and therefore can't disappear.
>>
>> So the big question - can I buy new bearings and a spring clip and
>> rebuild the swivel in place (assuming that it was the spring clip that
>> failed).  I'm hoping I don't need to kick for a whole new furler.
>> Replacing the whole top swivel would be a pain as I'd have to dismantle the
>> furler and the forestay to get the old one off and replaced.
>>
>>
>> Sorry I didn't get any pic's - was dark on return to the dock and I
>> forgot.
>>
>> Still had a great sail today - left the dock at 11:30am --- back to the
>> dock at 11pm.  First time coming back in the dark! Stars out, phosphorecent
>> sparkles in the water. And a clean docking!
>>
>> Mark
>>
>> --
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>>   - George Santayana
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Re: Stus-List Harken roller furler failure

[Dr. Mark Bodnar via CnC-List]

  
  

Alright - I'll start with them.
I should have taken some pic's but I was a little traumatized!!!
I couldn't see any clear identifying numbers on the base - just a
Harken USA sticker.

Thx,
Mark


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  - George Santayana
On 2015-09-08 9:48 AM, Dennis C. via
  CnC-List wrote:


  
Ditto.  Very good customer service.
  

I suspect the Torlon ball bearings are readily available
  from Harken.  Not sure about any other parts.



Never heard of a swivel failure on a Harken.  Let us known
  how this goes.



Dennis C.
  
  
On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 5:16 AM, Joel
  Aronson via CnC-List 
  wrote:
  Id call
harken. They are very helpful


Joel
  

  
  On Tuesday, September 8, 2015, Dr. Mark Bodnar via
  CnC-List 
  wrote:
  

Had a catastrophic failure of my Harken roller
furler today.

Last 3 times out the furler has been sticking a bit
- thought it got better with tightening my backstay,
but then same problem again.
Dropped the jib - furler spun freely with no sail so
I figured I was catching something up top.  Re-taped
halyard and ran the jib back up to test - stuck
again part way out then all of a sudden it was
raining small bearings - And no I didn't reef on
it or winch it - I was just tugging it looking to
see where is was catching and it let go.
Sail dropped with half the top furling mechanism -
left the halyard up top with the other half of the
mechanism.

I've not gone up the mast yet to rescue the
remaining parts and halyard - but I'm pretty sure
that there was a top spring clip that let go - when
it popped out the whole top swivel set just sprayed
everywhere.  I rescued a few of the bearings - light
brown, plastic, 3/8" (9.58mm) -- I think all the
other parts ring the furler and therefore can't
disappear.

So the big question - can I buy new bearings and a
spring clip and rebuild the swivel in place
(assuming that it was the spring clip that failed). 
I'm hoping I don't need to kick for a whole new
furler.  Replacing the whole top swivel would be a
pain as I'd have to dismantle the furler and the
forestay to get the old one off and replaced.


Sorry I didn't get any pic's - was dark on return to
the dock and I forgot.

Still had a great sail today - left the dock at
11:30am --- back to the dock at 11pm.  First time
coming back in the dark! Stars out, phosphorecent
sparkles in the water. And a clean docking!

Mark

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the interval.
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Re: Stus-List Harken roller furler failure

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

You'll need to know the Unit and Mark.  I'm going to guess it's a MK1.  Is
the drum guard chrome?  If so, it's a MKI.

Probably a Unit 0 or Unit 1.

The Harken rep will help you identify it.

Dennis C.

On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 8:50 AM, Dr. Mark Bodnar via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

>
> Alright - I'll start with them.
> I should have taken some pic's but I was a little traumatized!!!
> I couldn't see any clear identifying numbers on the base - just a Harken
> USA sticker.
>
> Thx,
> Mark
>
>
> There is no cure for birth and death save to enjoy the interval.
>   - George Santayana
>
> On 2015-09-08 9:48 AM, Dennis C. via CnC-List wrote:
>
> Ditto.  Very good customer service.
>
> I suspect the Torlon ball bearings are readily available from Harken.  Not
> sure about any other parts.
>
> Never heard of a swivel failure on a Harken.  Let us known how this goes.
>
> Dennis C.
>
> On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 5:16 AM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Id call harken. They are very helpful
>>
>> Joel
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, September 8, 2015, Dr. Mark Bodnar via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Had a catastrophic failure of my Harken roller furler today.
>>>
>>> Last 3 times out the furler has been sticking a bit - thought it got
>>> better with tightening my backstay, but then same problem again.
>>> Dropped the jib - furler spun freely with no sail so I figured I was
>>> catching something up top.  Re-taped halyard and ran the jib back up to
>>> test - stuck again part way out then all of a sudden it was raining small
>>> bearings - And no I didn't reef on it or winch it - I was just tugging
>>> it looking to see where is was catching and it let go.
>>> Sail dropped with half the top furling mechanism - left the halyard up
>>> top with the other half of the mechanism.
>>>
>>> I've not gone up the mast yet to rescue the remaining parts and halyard
>>> - but I'm pretty sure that there was a top spring clip that let go - when
>>> it popped out the whole top swivel set just sprayed everywhere.  I rescued
>>> a few of the bearings - light brown, plastic, 3/8" (9.58mm) -- I think all
>>> the other parts ring the furler and therefore can't disappear.
>>>
>>> So the big question - can I buy new bearings and a spring clip and
>>> rebuild the swivel in place (assuming that it was the spring clip that
>>> failed).  I'm hoping I don't need to kick for a whole new furler.
>>> Replacing the whole top swivel would be a pain as I'd have to dismantle the
>>> furler and the forestay to get the old one off and replaced.
>>>
>>>
>>> Sorry I didn't get any pic's - was dark on return to the dock and I
>>> forgot.
>>>
>>> Still had a great sail today - left the dock at 11:30am --- back to the
>>> dock at 11pm.  First time coming back in the dark! Stars out, phosphorecent
>>> sparkles in the water. And a clean docking!
>>>
>>> Mark
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>>
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>>>   - George Santayana
>>>
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Re: Stus-List Harken roller furler failure

[Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List]

Mark

Try North Sails Atlantic (Yacht Shop).  They can order Harken furler parts and 
will likely be  a big help to you on this.  Jamie or Angus should be your first 
contacts

Mike

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Bodnar via CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2015 1:17 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Dr. Mark Bodnar
Subject: Stus-List Harken roller furler failure



Had a catastrophic failure of my Harken roller furler today.

Last 3 times out the furler has been sticking a bit - thought it got better 
with tightening my backstay, but then same problem again.
Dropped the jib - furler spun freely with no sail so I figured I was catching 
something up top.  Re-taped halyard and ran the jib back up to test - stuck 
again part way out then all of a sudden it was raining small bearings - And 
no I didn't reef on it or winch it - I was just tugging it looking to see where 
is was catching and it let go.
Sail dropped with half the top furling mechanism - left the halyard up top with 
the other half of the mechanism.

I've not gone up the mast yet to rescue the remaining parts and halyard
- but I'm pretty sure that there was a top spring clip that let go - when it 
popped out the whole top swivel set just sprayed everywhere.  I rescued a few 
of the bearings - light brown, plastic, 3/8" (9.58mm) -- I think all the other 
parts ring the furler and therefore can't disappear.

So the big question - can I buy new bearings and a spring clip and rebuild the 
swivel in place (assuming that it was the spring clip that failed).  I'm hoping 
I don't need to kick for a whole new furler.  
Replacing the whole top swivel would be a pain as I'd have to dismantle the 
furler and the forestay to get the old one off and replaced.


Sorry I didn't get any pic's - was dark on return to the dock and I forgot.

Still had a great sail today - left the dock at 11:30am --- back to the dock at 
11pm.  First time coming back in the dark! Stars out, phosphorecent sparkles in 
the water. And a clean docking!

Mark

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Re: Stus-List Harken roller furler failure

[Dr. Mark Bodnar via CnC-List]

Thanks for the quick responses.
I'll check with Harken and with The Yacht Shop here in Halifax about 
replacement parts.


Seems like mine is a Mk 1 - it has a chrome base.

I was hoping it could go back together without removing the forestay - 
but trying to fight 96 little balls to stay still on an angle sounds 
unlikely.  Al - Thanks for the hint about using shaving cream - 5 min to 
replace the balls sounds good - but how long to remove the forestay?


Mark


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On 2015-09-08 11:37 AM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List wrote:

Mark

Try North Sails Atlantic (Yacht Shop).  They can order Harken furler parts and 
will likely be  a big help to you on this.  Jamie or Angus should be your first 
contacts

Mike

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Bodnar via CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2015 1:17 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Dr. Mark Bodnar
Subject: Stus-List Harken roller furler failure



Had a catastrophic failure of my Harken roller furler today.

Last 3 times out the furler has been sticking a bit - thought it got better 
with tightening my backstay, but then same problem again.
Dropped the jib - furler spun freely with no sail so I figured I was catching 
something up top.  Re-taped halyard and ran the jib back up to test - stuck 
again part way out then all of a sudden it was raining small bearings - And 
no I didn't reef on it or winch it - I was just tugging it looking to see where 
is was catching and it let go.
Sail dropped with half the top furling mechanism - left the halyard up top with 
the other half of the mechanism.

I've not gone up the mast yet to rescue the remaining parts and halyard
- but I'm pretty sure that there was a top spring clip that let go - when it popped 
out the whole top swivel set just sprayed everywhere.  I rescued a few of the 
bearings - light brown, plastic, 3/8" (9.58mm) -- I think all the other parts 
ring the furler and therefore can't disappear.

So the big question - can I buy new bearings and a spring clip and rebuild the 
swivel in place (assuming that it was the spring clip that failed).  I'm hoping 
I don't need to kick for a whole new furler.
Replacing the whole top swivel would be a pain as I'd have to dismantle the 
furler and the forestay to get the old one off and replaced.


Sorry I didn't get any pic's - was dark on return to the dock and I forgot.

Still had a great sail today - left the dock at 11:30am --- back to the dock at 
11pm.  First time coming back in the dark! Stars out, phosphorecent sparkles in 
the water. And a clean docking!

Mark




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Re: Stus-List Harken roller furler failure

[Jake Brodersen via CnC-List]

Mark,

Harken sells bearings for about everything they sell as a product.  I bought
new bearings for my 30 year old genoa cars and traveler last year.  They
only use a couple of different sizes, so it shouldn't be a big problem.
Good luck on the reassembly.

Jake

Jake Brodersen
"Midnight Mistress"
C&C 35 Mk-III
Hampton VA



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Subject: Stus-List Harken roller furler failure



Had a catastrophic failure of my Harken roller furler today.

Last 3 times out the furler has been sticking a bit - thought it got better
with tightening my backstay, but then same problem again.
Dropped the jib - furler spun freely with no sail so I figured I was
catching something up top.  Re-taped halyard and ran the jib back up to test
- stuck again part way out then all of a sudden it was raining small
bearings - And no I didn't reef on it or winch it - I was just tugging
it looking to see where is was catching and it let go.
Sail dropped with half the top furling mechanism - left the halyard up top
with the other half of the mechanism.

I've not gone up the mast yet to rescue the remaining parts and halyard
- but I'm pretty sure that there was a top spring clip that let go - when it
popped out the whole top swivel set just sprayed everywhere.  I rescued a
few of the bearings - light brown, plastic, 3/8" (9.58mm) -- I think all the
other parts ring the furler and therefore can't disappear.

So the big question - can I buy new bearings and a spring clip and rebuild
the swivel in place (assuming that it was the spring clip that failed).  I'm
hoping I don't need to kick for a whole new furler.  
Replacing the whole top swivel would be a pain as I'd have to dismantle the
furler and the forestay to get the old one off and replaced.


Sorry I didn't get any pic's - was dark on return to the dock and I forgot.

Still had a great sail today - left the dock at 11:30am --- back to the dock
at 11pm.  First time coming back in the dark! Stars out, phosphorecent
sparkles in the water. And a clean docking!

Mark

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Re: Stus-List Harken roller furler failure

[Martin DeYoung via CnC-List]

>Dropped the jib - furler spun freely with no sail so I figured I was catching 
>something up top.  Re-taped halyard and ran the jib back up to test - stuck 
>again part way out then all of a sudden it was raining small bearings...

Any chance a wrapped halyard put enough pressure on the top spring clip?

Calypso's Harken furler would act like it was jammed when the halyard used to 
occasionally wrap around the top of the extrusion.  I adjusted the sail hoist 
slightly to shorten the amount of exposed halyard and eliminated the wrap 
issues.

Martin DeYoung
Calypso
1971 C&C 43
Seattle


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To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Dr. Mark Bodnar
Subject: Stus-List Harken roller furler failure



Had a catastrophic failure of my Harken roller furler today.

Last 3 times out the furler has been sticking a bit - thought it got better 
with tightening my backstay, but then same problem again.
Dropped the jib - furler spun freely with no sail so I figured I was catching 
something up top.  Re-taped halyard and ran the jib back up to test - stuck 
again part way out then all of a sudden it was raining small bearings - And 
no I didn't reef on it or winch it - I was just tugging it looking to see where 
is was catching and it let go.
Sail dropped with half the top furling mechanism - left the halyard up top with 
the other half of the mechanism.

I've not gone up the mast yet to rescue the remaining parts and halyard
- but I'm pretty sure that there was a top spring clip that let go - when it 
popped out the whole top swivel set just sprayed everywhere.  I rescued a few 
of the bearings - light brown, plastic, 3/8" (9.58mm) -- I think all the other 
parts ring the furler and therefore can't disappear.

So the big question - can I buy new bearings and a spring clip and rebuild the 
swivel in place (assuming that it was the spring clip that failed).  I'm hoping 
I don't need to kick for a whole new furler.  
Replacing the whole top swivel would be a pain as I'd have to dismantle the 
furler and the forestay to get the old one off and replaced.


Sorry I didn't get any pic's - was dark on return to the dock and I forgot.

Still had a great sail today - left the dock at 11:30am --- back to the dock at 
11pm.  First time coming back in the dark! Stars out, phosphorecent sparkles in 
the water. And a clean docking!

Mark

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Re: Stus-List Harken roller furler failure

[Dr. Mark Bodnar via CnC-List]

Before everything went to hell I was looking closely at the head of the 
furler -- had my binoc's out etc.  Couldn't see the halyard wrapping.
After I dropped the sail and put it back up I tensioned it a bit extra 
just to make sure that was not it - no help.  Maybe it was the problem?  
Furler has worked like a charm for last 2 summers - but last 2 weeks has 
been catching on something - not sure what, but I couldn't see the 
halyard wrapping.


Mark


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On 2015-09-08 9:47 PM, Martin DeYoung via CnC-List wrote:

Dropped the jib - furler spun freely with no sail so I figured I was catching 
something up top.  Re-taped halyard and ran the jib back up to test - stuck 
again part way out then all of a sudden it was raining small bearings...

Any chance a wrapped halyard put enough pressure on the top spring clip?

Calypso's Harken furler would act like it was jammed when the halyard used to 
occasionally wrap around the top of the extrusion.  I adjusted the sail hoist 
slightly to shorten the amount of exposed halyard and eliminated the wrap 
issues.

Martin DeYoung
Calypso
1971 C&C 43
Seattle


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Subject: Stus-List Harken roller furler failure



Had a catastrophic failure of my Harken roller furler today.

Last 3 times out the furler has been sticking a bit - thought it got better 
with tightening my backstay, but then same problem again.
Dropped the jib - furler spun freely with no sail so I figured I was catching 
something up top.  Re-taped halyard and ran the jib back up to test - stuck 
again part way out then all of a sudden it was raining small bearings - And 
no I didn't reef on it or winch it - I was just tugging it looking to see where 
is was catching and it let go.
Sail dropped with half the top furling mechanism - left the halyard up top with 
the other half of the mechanism.

I've not gone up the mast yet to rescue the remaining parts and halyard
- but I'm pretty sure that there was a top spring clip that let go - when it popped 
out the whole top swivel set just sprayed everywhere.  I rescued a few of the 
bearings - light brown, plastic, 3/8" (9.58mm) -- I think all the other parts 
ring the furler and therefore can't disappear.

So the big question - can I buy new bearings and a spring clip and rebuild the 
swivel in place (assuming that it was the spring clip that failed).  I'm hoping 
I don't need to kick for a whole new furler.
Replacing the whole top swivel would be a pain as I'd have to dismantle the 
furler and the forestay to get the old one off and replaced.


Sorry I didn't get any pic's - was dark on return to the dock and I forgot.

Still had a great sail today - left the dock at 11:30am --- back to the dock at 
11pm.  First time coming back in the dark! Stars out, phosphorecent sparkles in 
the water. And a clean docking!

Mark




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Re: Stus-List Harken roller furler failure

[D Harben via CnC-List]

> Spin halyard 
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Re: Stus-List Harken roller furler failure

[Martin DeYoung via CnC-List]

Calypso's spin halyard will tangle if it is not secured against the mast before 
un-furling the headsail.  I'm not sure if it contacts the swivel itself or the 
sail's head.



I use a ATN spin sock which allows the spin to be snuffed close to the leeward 
mark.  When the spin is hoisted and flying the sock itself covers the upper 
swivel and would foul it if the headsail is roller out while the spin is flying.



I have not yet figured out a way to roll out the headsail until the spin 
halyard is all the way aft but I have gotten faster at clearing the halyard off 
the sock/spin and back to the mast.



Martin

Calypso

1971 C&C43

Seattle



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Spin halyard
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Re: Stus-List Harken roller furler failure

[Chuck S via CnC-List]

To prevent the furIer from grabbing a slack spinnaker halyard, I flip each spin 
halyard over and behind the cap shroud and spreaders and clip each one into a 
line that is tied through my chainplate turnbuckles. No slapping the mast. Once 
back at to the dock, I flip em back and clip them into the rings of the pulpit. 



Chuck 
Resolute 
1990 C&C 34R 
Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md 

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Subject: Re: Stus-List Harken roller furler failure 



Calypso's spin halyard will tangle if it is not secured against the mast before 
un-furling the headsail. I'm not sure if it contacts the swivel itself or the 
sail's head. 



I use a ATN spin sock which allows the spin to be snuffed close to the leeward 
mark. When the spin is hoisted and flying the sock itself covers the upper 
swivel and would foul it if the headsail is roller out while the spin is 
flying. 



I have not yet figured out a way to roll out the headsail until the spin 
halyard is all the way aft but I have gotten faster at clearing the halyard off 
the sock/spin and back to the mast. 



Martin 

Calypso 

1971 C&C43 


Seattle 



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Spin halyard 




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Re: Stus-List Harken roller furler failure

[Dr. Mark Bodnar via CnC-List]

  
  

First thing I did was take the spinniker halyard off the mast clip
and move it around the spreader and over to the lifelines - but that
didn't solve the issue.

i think the locking clip came partially loose (maybe it caught on
something) - and from then on it was gradually pushing itself out as
I was furling and unfurling.

Couldn't get the right people at North Sails today - but should talk
to them in the morning

Mark


There is no cure for birth and death save to enjoy the interval.
  - George Santayana
On 2015-09-09 1:53 AM, Martin DeYoung
  via CnC-List wrote:


  
  
  
Calypso's spin halyard will tangle if it is not secured
  against the mast before un-furling the headsail.  I'm not sure
  if it contacts the swivel itself or the sail's head.
 
I use a ATN spin sock which allows the spin to be snuffed
  close to the leeward mark.  When the spin is hoisted and
  flying the sock itself covers the upper swivel and would foul
  it if the headsail is roller out while the spin is flying.
 
I have not yet figured out a way to roll out the headsail
  until the spin halyard is all the way aft but I have gotten
  faster at clearing the halyard off the sock/spin and back to
  the mast.
 
Martin
Calypso
1971 C&C43
Seattle
 
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  Spin halyard 

  

  
  
  
  
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Re: Stus-List Harken roller furler failure

[Dr. Mark Bodnar via CnC-List]

  
  

The Yacht Shop in Halifax has an original Mk 1 swivel in the parts
bin.
$175.  Half the cost of new and not much different that the cost of
replacing the bearings and clips (over $1/bearing online)
I'll have to remove the bottom of the furler, drum etc to take off
the old and replace.

Relatively painless (he says BEFORE attempting replacement).  Thanks
for the advice.

Mark

There is no cure for birth and death save to enjoy the interval.
  - George Santayana
On 2015-09-09 5:59 PM, Dr. Mark Bodnar
  via CnC-List wrote:


  
  
  First thing I did was take the spinniker halyard off the mast clip
  and move it around the spreader and over to the lifelines - but
  that didn't solve the issue.
  
  i think the locking clip came partially loose (maybe it caught on
  something) - and from then on it was gradually pushing itself out
  as I was furling and unfurling.
  
  Couldn't get the right people at North Sails today - but should
  talk to them in the morning
  
  Mark
  
There is no cure for birth and death save to enjoy the interval.
  - George Santayana
  On 2015-09-09 1:53 AM, Martin DeYoung
via CnC-List wrote:
  
  



  Calypso's spin halyard will tangle if it is not secured
against the mast before un-furling the headsail.  I'm not
sure if it contacts the swivel itself or the sail's head.
   
  I use a ATN spin sock which allows the spin to be snuffed
close to the leeward mark.  When the spin is hoisted and
flying the sock itself covers the upper swivel and would
foul it if the headsail is roller out while the spin is
flying.
   
  I have not yet figured out a way to roll out the headsail
until the spin halyard is all the way aft but I have gotten
faster at clearing the halyard off the sock/spin and back to
the mast.
   
  Martin
  Calypso
  1971 C&C43
  Seattle
   
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  Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2015 7:59 PM
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      Subject: Re: Stus-List Harken roller furler failure

  
  

  
Spin halyard 
  

  




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Re: Stus-List Harken roller furler failure

[N7FN--- via CnC-List]

Hold on Mark,

I have an old Mk I swivel that you can have for the postage, shipping and 
handling.
A lot less than $175 but I am on the West Coast.

Interested?

Frank
S/V Cool Change
C&C LF 38, S/N: 001
Rose City Yacht Club
Portland, Oregon
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Re: Stus-List Harken roller furler failure

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Oops, Intended for Frank, not spam for everyone else...

On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 2:56 PM Kevin Driscoll 
wrote:

> Frank,
>
> If Mark doesn't go for that MK I swivel, I would love to have it. I am in
> Portland. We haven't met, but I race regularly on the J42 Velocity and
> occasionally on other boats. My wife and I also have a 30-2 "Osprey" at
> PYC.
>
> Thanks!
> Kevin
>
> On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 2:54 PM N7FN--- via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Hold on Mark,
>>
>> I have an old Mk I swivel that you can have for the postage, shipping and
>> handling.
>> A lot less than $175 but I am on the West Coast.
>>
>> Interested?
>>
>> Frank
>> S/V Cool Change
>> C&C LF 38, S/N: 001
>> Rose City Yacht Club
>> Portland, Oregon
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Re: Stus-List Harken roller furler failure

[Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List]

Frank,

If Mark doesn't go for that MK I swivel, I would love to have it. I am in
Portland. We haven't met, but I race regularly on the J42 Velocity and
occasionally on other boats. My wife and I also have a 30-2 "Osprey" at
PYC.

Thanks!
Kevin

On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 2:54 PM N7FN--- via CnC-List 
wrote:

> Hold on Mark,
>
> I have an old Mk I swivel that you can have for the postage, shipping and
> handling.
> A lot less than $175 but I am on the West Coast.
>
> Interested?
>
> Frank
> S/V Cool Change
> C&C LF 38, S/N: 001
> Rose City Yacht Club
> Portland, Oregon
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