Re: Stus-List Rigging tensions for C&C 35 Mk I

2018-05-24 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List 
PT-2

Dennis C.

On Thu, May 24, 2018 at 6:23 PM, jcn--- via CnC-List 
wrote:

> Dennis
> Which model of Loos gauge are you using?
>
> Sent from my iPad
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> On May 24, 2018, at 6:18 AM, dwight veinot via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks Dennis, very similar numbers to what my 35 MKII likes; similar rigs
> I guess.  I have tried more tension on the uppers, in fact to 1200 and
> above as you note and that works fine in 20+ knots apparent wind.  Let me
> also say that if you get head stay tension correct then with about 1000 lbs
> on the backstay with a 135% headsail she should hold a nearly close hauled
> course without a hand on the wheel as long as conditions stay somewhat
> constant, balanced almost perfect which on St. Margaret's Bay can be the
> whole way across, or about 6 miles.  Watch for other boats in your path
> because she will be moving at 7 or better in 15 apparent
>
> If you dare go forward, lie on your back feet forward and sight up the
> mast.  You should see a nice bend in the mast to leeward maximum at about
> spreader height...that's what works good, caused by the much lower tension
> on the forward and aft lowers.  Beautiful bow, who said the mast on a 35
> was too big to bend...bends nicely to leeward and loves it...fun stuff to
> play with, get a gauge and have fun
>
> Dwight Veinot
> C&C 35 MKII, *Alianna*
> Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS
> d.ve...@bellaliant.net
>
>
> On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 6:49 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> OK, here's the super secret rig tensions for a 35-1.  Don't tell anyone
>> outside the C&C community!
>>
>> Number are:  Loos #  / Tension in lbs  / %breaking strength
>>
>> Uppers  34 / 1300 / 21
>> Fwd lowers  21 / 640 / 14
>> Aft lowers 12 / 270 / 5.5
>>
>> These tensions should induce a bit of pre-bend in your mast.  Your main
>> sail may not be cut for any pre-bend.
>>
>> Dennis C.
>> Touche' 35-1 #83
>> Mandeville, LA
>>
>> On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 8:59 AM, Glen Eddie via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello everyone,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Just curious if anyone has the standing rigging tension for the shrouds
>>> on a C&C 35 Mk1.  I have lost my sheets with the numbers.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
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>>>
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>>>
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Re: Stus-List Rigging tensions for C&C 35 Mk I

2018-05-24 Thread jcn--- via CnC-List 
Dennis
Which model of Loos gauge are you using?

Sent from my iPad

> On May 24, 2018, at 6:18 AM, dwight veinot via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Dennis, very similar numbers to what my 35 MKII likes; similar rigs I 
> guess.  I have tried more tension on the uppers, in fact to 1200 and above as 
> you note and that works fine in 20+ knots apparent wind.  Let me also say 
> that if you get head stay tension correct then with about 1000 lbs on the 
> backstay with a 135% headsail she should hold a nearly close hauled course 
> without a hand on the wheel as long as conditions stay somewhat constant, 
> balanced almost perfect which on St. Margaret's Bay can be the whole way 
> across, or about 6 miles.  Watch for other boats in your path because she 
> will be moving at 7 or better in 15 apparent 
> 
> If you dare go forward, lie on your back feet forward and sight up the mast.  
> You should see a nice bend in the mast to leeward maximum at about spreader 
> height...that's what works good, caused by the much lower tension on the 
> forward and aft lowers.  Beautiful bow, who said the mast on a 35 was too big 
> to bend...bends nicely to leeward and loves it...fun stuff to play with, get 
> a gauge and have fun
> 
> Dwight Veinot
> C&C 35 MKII, Alianna
> Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS
> d.ve...@bellaliant.net
> 
> 
>> On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 6:49 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> OK, here's the super secret rig tensions for a 35-1.  Don't tell anyone 
>> outside the C&C community!
>> 
>> Number are:  Loos #  / Tension in lbs  / %breaking strength
>> 
>> Uppers  34 / 1300 / 21
>> Fwd lowers  21 / 640 / 14
>> Aft lowers 12 / 270 / 5.5
>> 
>> These tensions should induce a bit of pre-bend in your mast.  Your main sail 
>> may not be cut for any pre-bend.
>> 
>> Dennis C.
>> Touche' 35-1 #83
>> Mandeville, LA
>> 
>>> On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 8:59 AM, Glen Eddie via CnC-List 
>>>  wrote:
>>> Hello everyone,
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Just curious if anyone has the standing rigging tension for the shrouds on 
>>> a C&C 35 Mk1.  I have lost my sheets with the numbers.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Thanks in advance.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Glen Eddie
>>> 
>>> Tel:  416-777-5357
>>> 
>>> Fax:  1-888-812-2557
>>> 
>>> ged...@torkinmanes.com
>>> 
>>> VCard
>>> 
>>> Torkin Manes LLP
>>> Barristers & Solicitors
>>> 
>>> 151 Yonge Street, Suite 1500
>>> Toronto ON M5C 2W7 
>>> torkinmanes.com
>>> 
>>> An international member of Ally Law
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Re: Stus-List Rigging tensions for C&C 35 Mk I

2018-05-24 Thread dwight veinot via CnC-List 
Thanks Dennis, very similar numbers to what my 35 MKII likes; similar rigs
I guess.  I have tried more tension on the uppers, in fact to 1200 and
above as you note and that works fine in 20+ knots apparent wind.  Let me
also say that if you get head stay tension correct then with about 1000 lbs
on the backstay with a 135% headsail she should hold a nearly close hauled
course without a hand on the wheel as long as conditions stay somewhat
constant, balanced almost perfect which on St. Margaret's Bay can be the
whole way across, or about 6 miles.  Watch for other boats in your path
because she will be moving at 7 or better in 15 apparent

If you dare go forward, lie on your back feet forward and sight up the
mast.  You should see a nice bend in the mast to leeward maximum at about
spreader height...that's what works good, caused by the much lower tension
on the forward and aft lowers.  Beautiful bow, who said the mast on a 35
was too big to bend...bends nicely to leeward and loves it...fun stuff to
play with, get a gauge and have fun

Dwight Veinot
C&C 35 MKII, *Alianna*
Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS
d.ve...@bellaliant.net


On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 6:49 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> OK, here's the super secret rig tensions for a 35-1.  Don't tell anyone
> outside the C&C community!
>
> Number are:  Loos #  / Tension in lbs  / %breaking strength
>
> Uppers  34 / 1300 / 21
> Fwd lowers  21 / 640 / 14
> Aft lowers 12 / 270 / 5.5
>
> These tensions should induce a bit of pre-bend in your mast.  Your main
> sail may not be cut for any pre-bend.
>
> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
>
> On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 8:59 AM, Glen Eddie via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>>
>>
>> Just curious if anyone has the standing rigging tension for the shrouds
>> on a C&C 35 Mk1.  I have lost my sheets with the numbers.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> *Glen Eddie*
>>
>> Tel:  416-777-5357
>>
>> Fax:  1-888-812-2557
>>
>> ged...@torkinmanes.com
>>
>> VCard 
>>
>> *Torkin Manes LLP*
>> Barristers & Solicitors
>>
>> 151 Yonge Street, Suite 1500
>> Toronto ON M5C 2W7
>> torkinmanes.com 
>>
>> An international member of Ally Law
>>
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Re: Stus-List Rigging tensions for C&C 35 Mk I

2018-05-23 Thread Glen Eddie via CnC-List 
Fantastic.


Glen Eddie
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On May 23, 2018 5:48 PM, "Dennis C. via CnC-List"  wrote:
OK, here's the super secret rig tensions for a 35-1.  Don't tell anyone outside 
the C&C community!

Number are:  Loos #  / Tension in lbs  / %breaking strength

Uppers  34 / 1300 / 21
Fwd lowers  21 / 640 / 14
Aft lowers 12 / 270 / 5.5

These tensions should induce a bit of pre-bend in your mast.  Your main sail 
may not be cut for any pre-bend.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 8:59 AM, Glen Eddie via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Hello everyone,

Just curious if anyone has the standing rigging tension for the shrouds on a 
C&C 35 Mk1.  I have lost my sheets with the numbers.

Thanks in advance.


Glen Eddie

Tel:  416-777-5357

Fax:  1-888-812-2557

ged...@torkinmanes.com

VCard

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Re: Stus-List Rigging tensions for C&C 35 Mk I

2018-05-23 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List 
OK, here's the super secret rig tensions for a 35-1.  Don't tell anyone
outside the C&C community!

Number are:  Loos #  / Tension in lbs  / %breaking strength

Uppers  34 / 1300 / 21
Fwd lowers  21 / 640 / 14
Aft lowers 12 / 270 / 5.5

These tensions should induce a bit of pre-bend in your mast.  Your main
sail may not be cut for any pre-bend.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 8:59 AM, Glen Eddie via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Hello everyone,
>
>
>
> Just curious if anyone has the standing rigging tension for the shrouds on
> a C&C 35 Mk1.  I have lost my sheets with the numbers.
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
>
> --
>
> *Glen Eddie*
>
> Tel:  416-777-5357
>
> Fax:  1-888-812-2557
>
> ged...@torkinmanes.com
>
> VCard 
>
> *Torkin Manes LLP*
> Barristers & Solicitors
>
> 151 Yonge Street, Suite 1500
> Toronto ON M5C 2W7
> torkinmanes.com 
>
> An international member of Ally Law
>
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Re: Stus-List Rigging tensions for C&C 35 Mk I

2018-05-23 Thread Glen Eddie via CnC-List 
Thanks.

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Fax:  1-888-812-2557


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Subject: Re: Stus-List Rigging tensions for C&C 35 Mk I

Based on what my 35 my II likes first get your mast plumb side to side then 
uppers about 1000-1100 forward lowers 700 aft lowers 400 no back stay tension 
during adjustment but usually 1000 to 1500 under sail let us know what works 
best for you. I usually sail with high aspect ratio full main and 135 on the 
furler.  These numbers work good with that sail configuration. Boat has wire 
standing rigging.

Sent from my iPad

On May 23, 2018, at 10:59 AM, Glen Eddie via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Hello everyone,

Just curious if anyone has the standing rigging tension for the shrouds on a 
C&C 35 Mk1.  I have lost my sheets with the numbers.

Thanks in advance.


Glen Eddie

Tel:  416-777-5357

Fax:  1-888-812-2557

ged...@torkinmanes.com<mailto:ged...@torkinmanes.com>

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Re: Stus-List Rigging tensions for C&C 35 Mk I

2018-05-23 Thread dwight via CnC-List 
Based on what my 35 my II likes first get your mast plumb side to side then 
uppers about 1000-1100 forward lowers 700 aft lowers 400 no back stay tension 
during adjustment but usually 1000 to 1500 under sail let us know what works 
best for you. I usually sail with high aspect ratio full main and 135 on the 
furler.  These numbers work good with that sail configuration. Boat has wire 
standing rigging. 

Sent from my iPad

> On May 23, 2018, at 10:59 AM, Glen Eddie via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Hello everyone,
>  
> Just curious if anyone has the standing rigging tension for the shrouds on a 
> C&C 35 Mk1.  I have lost my sheets with the numbers.
>  
> Thanks in advance.
>  
> Glen Eddie
> Tel:  416-777-5357
> Fax:  1-888-812-2557
> ged...@torkinmanes.com
> VCard
> Torkin Manes LLP
> Barristers & Solicitors
> 151 Yonge Street, Suite 1500
> Toronto ON M5C 2W7 
> torkinmanes.com
> An international member of Ally Law
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