Re: Stus-List US Watercraft receivership
I was hoping they'd make it. Now that we have a motel at the lake, a racing
sled would be fun; used of course. My budget can't take new.For the "no
effort" crowd, maybe back to self tacking jibs and lazy jacks. My wife is
complaining about the 160% genny which I need in anything under 10kts. And I'm
getting tired of folding the main.RonWild CheriC&C 30-1STL
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{}#yiv6363754717 I had a hard time thinking of the “new” C&Cs as related to
“real” C&Cs in any way except the logo, but then they went and changed that
too. I used to think sailors got tired of sailing and bought trawlers, but an
informal look around shows the end destination of sailors seems to be a nice
center console fishing boat. I can kind of see it too, no systems really, the
engine winterizes itself every time you tilt it up, and it fits into any random
time slot. Hard to convince a modern scheduled to death family to carve out the
time needed to own and use a sailboat. You too can take a week off work that
just happens to coincide with a Bermuda high and you’ll never touch the sails,
but you will combine heat, humidity, AND bugs! Joe Coquina C&C 35 MK I
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Re: Stus-List US Watercraft receivership
I had a hard time thinking of the “new” C&Cs as related to “real” C&Cs in any way except the logo, but then they went and changed that too. I used to think sailors got tired of sailing and bought trawlers, but an informal look around shows the end destination of sailors seems to be a nice center console fishing boat. I can kind of see it too, no systems really, the engine winterizes itself every time you tilt it up, and it fits into any random time slot. Hard to convince a modern scheduled to death family to carve out the time needed to own and use a sailboat. You too can take a week off work that just happens to coincide with a Bermuda high and you’ll never touch the sails, but you will combine heat, humidity, AND bugs! Joe Coquina C&C 35 MK I From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of rjcasciato--- via CnC-List Sent: Monday, July 24, 2017 11:05 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: rjcasci...@comcast.net Subject: Re: Stus-List US Watercraft receivership Dennis..it's the old adage..if you don't learn from historyyou're destined to repeat it. My own opinion is that sailing has become a diminishing interest.while power boats are enjoying a growth market. It's the immediate gratification generation..just turn the key and drive away. It's not the lack of money...except for special circumstances.e.g. Comanche, Meteor, etc..the money is going into power. Check out the MJM 50 e.g. big engines, gyroscopic stabilization and a $2.5 M pricetag. And the waiting list is over 3 years long..MJM produces at least 2 boats per week.from 35' to 50'...the least expensive is in the $900K range. Makes me really like my C&C even more Ron C. Get Outlook for Android<https://aka.ms/ghei36> On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 8:35 PM -0400, "Dennis C. via CnC-List" mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote: So how many times does this make for C&C? Hope blooms eternal... Dennis C. On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 5:40 PM, Don Harben via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote: http://cdn.sailingscuttlebutt.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Scan_20170724.pdf Alerion Yachts, C&C Yachts, True North Yachts, North Rip Boats, licensed builder of several JBoat models ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All Contributions are greatly appreciated! ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All Contributions are greatly appreciated!
Re: Stus-List US Watercraft receivership
It is also aging population The great thing about sailing vs powerboating is that everyone on board is involved in sailing whereas powerboat is like sitting on the beach. Boring (if you are not the driver). Sailing can be a lot of work and racing needs an active crew. Powerboat you are less dependent on other people to take your boat out for the day. My last boat will hopefully be something like a Mainship. It will be flag blue. Sabre also made that realization. Even the major sailboat manufacturers are making sailboats that have more and more the attributes of powerboats …. Interesting … Mike Persistence A sailboat From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of rjcasciato--- via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 12:05 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: rjcasci...@comcast.net Subject: Re: Stus-List US Watercraft receivership Dennis..it's the old adage..if you don't learn from historyyou're destined to repeat it. My own opinion is that sailing has become a diminishing interest.while power boats are enjoying a growth market. It's the immediate gratification generation..just turn the key and drive away. It's not the lack of money...except for special circumstances.e.g. Comanche, Meteor, etc..the money is going into power. Check out the MJM 50 e.g. big engines, gyroscopic stabilization and a $2.5 M pricetag. And the waiting list is over 3 years long..MJM produces at least 2 boats per week.from 35' to 50'...the least expensive is in the $900K range. Makes me really like my C&C even more Ron C. Get Outlook for Android<https://aka.ms/ghei36> On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 8:35 PM -0400, "Dennis C. via CnC-List" mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote: So how many times does this make for C&C? Hope blooms eternal... Dennis C. On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 5:40 PM, Don Harben via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote: http://cdn.sailingscuttlebutt.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Scan_20170724.pdf Alerion Yachts, C&C Yachts, True North Yachts, North Rip Boats, licensed builder of several JBoat models ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All Contributions are greatly appreciated! ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All Contributions are greatly appreciated!
Re: Stus-List US Watercraft receivership
There were 4 separate failures while being built alongside Tartan in Ohio. Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 24, 2017, at 11:21 PM, Don Harben via CnC-List > wrote: > > Hmmm > > I asked a friend how many times C&C might have repeated this: > He says ... > > "Let me try > 1. First it was that airline guy > 2. North South charter guy > 3. Hong Kong guy > 4 Tartan Yachts guy > 5. Now US Watercraft. > > That's 5! Must be a record in the industry!" > > Don > > Don Harben > Viking 34 > Life > www.ncyc.ca > > >> On Jul 24, 2017, at 11:05 PM, rjcasciato--- via CnC-List >> wrote: >> >> Dennis..it's the old adage..if you don't learn from >> historyyou're destined to repeat it. > > > ___ > > This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish > to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: > https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > > All Contributions are greatly appreciated! ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All Contributions are greatly appreciated!
Re: Stus-List US Watercraft receivership
So this is the company that owns the C&C name and builds the new C&C 30 one-design racing sled with open transom and bulb keel? Going into receivership? Sad. Cheers, Randy - Original Message - From: "Don Harben via CnC-List" To: "cnc-list" Cc: "Don Harben" Sent: Monday, July 24, 2017 9:21:37 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List US Watercraft receivership Hmmm I asked a friend how many times C&C might have repeated this: He says ... "Let me try 1. First it was that airline guy 2. North South charter guy 3. Hong Kong guy 4 Tartan Yachts guy 5. Now US Watercraft. That's 5! Must be a record in the industry!" Don Don Harben Viking 34 Life www.ncyc.ca > On Jul 24, 2017, at 11:05 PM, rjcasciato--- via CnC-List > wrote: > > Dennis..it's the old adage..if you don't learn from historyyou're > destined to repeat it. ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All Contributions are greatly appreciated! ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All Contributions are greatly appreciated!
Re: Stus-List US Watercraft receivership
Hmmm I asked a friend how many times C&C might have repeated this: He says ... "Let me try 1. First it was that airline guy 2. North South charter guy 3. Hong Kong guy 4 Tartan Yachts guy 5. Now US Watercraft. That's 5! Must be a record in the industry!" Don Don Harben Viking 34 Life www.ncyc.ca > On Jul 24, 2017, at 11:05 PM, rjcasciato--- via CnC-List > wrote: > > Dennis..it's the old adage..if you don't learn from historyyou're > destined to repeat it. ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All Contributions are greatly appreciated!
Re: Stus-List US Watercraft receivership
Dennis..it's the old adage..if you don't learn from historyyou're destined to repeat it. My own opinion is that sailing has become a diminishing interest.while power boats are enjoying a growth market. It's the immediate gratification generation..just turn the key and drive away. It's not the lack of money...except for special circumstances.e.g. Comanche, Meteor, etc..the money is going into power. Check out the MJM 50 e.g. big engines, gyroscopic stabilization and a $2.5 M pricetag. And the waiting list is over 3 years long..MJM produces at least 2 boats per week.from 35' to 50'...the least expensive is in the $900K range. Makes me really like my C&C even more Ron C. Get Outlook for Android On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 8:35 PM -0400, "Dennis C. via CnC-List" wrote: So how many times does this make for C&C? Hope blooms eternal... Dennis C. On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 5:40 PM, Don Harben via CnC-List wrote: http://cdn.sailingscuttlebutt.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Scan_20170724.pdf Alerion Yachts, C&C Yachts, True North Yachts, North Rip Boats, licensed builder of several JBoat models ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All Contributions are greatly appreciated! ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All Contributions are greatly appreciated!
Re: Stus-List US Watercraft receivership
So how many times does this make for C&C? Hope blooms eternal... Dennis C. On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 5:40 PM, Don Harben via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > http://cdn.sailingscuttlebutt.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/ > 07/Scan_20170724.pdf > > > *Alerion Yachts, * > > *C&C Yachts, * > > *True North Yachts, * > > *North Rip Boats*, > > *licensed builder of several JBoat models* > > > ___ > > This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you > wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: > https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > > All Contributions are greatly appreciated! > > ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All Contributions are greatly appreciated!
Re: Stus-List US Watercraft receivership
Sad. Next stop will be bankruptcy. Joel On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 6:42 PM Don Harben via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > > http://cdn.sailingscuttlebutt.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Scan_20170724.pdf > > > *Alerion Yachts, * > > *C&C Yachts, * > > *True North Yachts, * > > *North Rip Boats*, > > *licensed builder of several JBoat models* > > ___ > > This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you > wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: > https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > > All Contributions are greatly appreciated! > -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All Contributions are greatly appreciated!
Re: Stus-List US Watercraft receivership
The new sailboat market in the US is a mess. It just hasn't shaken off the effects of 2008 when sales of domestic sailboats dropped by 75%. Sad to see yet another builder struggling. On the plus side, Hall Spars has reopened in the states with the financial backing of the North Sails group. Yet another reason to keep our old boats running in good shape. Chuck Gilchrest S/V Half Magic 1983 35 Landfall Padanaram, MA Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 24, 2017, at 6:40 PM, Don Harben via CnC-List > wrote: > > > http://cdn.sailingscuttlebutt.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Scan_20170724.pdf > > > > Alerion Yachts, > > C&C Yachts, > > True North Yachts, > > North Rip Boats, > > licensed builder of several JBoat models > > ___ > > This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish > to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: > https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > > All Contributions are greatly appreciated! ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All Contributions are greatly appreciated!
