Re: Stus-List Water Stained Floor Board

2017-04-26 Thread Joel Aronson via CnC-List
 Rob, you can strip it and bleach it using wood bleach.  It will take
multiple applications. I generally make the solution stronger than the
label says. It is a mild acid so be careful what you get it on, including
yourself. It may not remove the entire stain but it  certainly lighten it
Joel

On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 9:13 AM robert via CnC-List 
wrote:

> My floor boards are the usual teak and holy veneered.   Some years back
> I painted the bottoms and sides with resin.  However I forgot/missed one
> side on one floor board and of course, water got in and dark stained an
> approx. 1 square foot section.
>
> I presume I have two options to deal with the darkened section, 1)
> replace the floor board, or 2) live with it.
>
> Question: is there a 3rd option I am not aware of?
>
> Rob Abbott
> AZURA
> C&C 32 - 84
> Halifax, N.S.
>
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Re: Stus-List Water Stained Floor Board

2017-04-26 Thread Graham Young via CnC-List
Hi Rob,
Is the spot just stained or is the wood also showing some rot and structural 
weakening?  If the latter is the case, you may want to inject some penetrating 
epoxy into the area to strengthen it in addition to refinishing the surface.

Graham YoungS/V SpellboundC&C 32 
 

On Wednesday, April 26, 2017 9:13 AM, robert via CnC-List 
 wrote:
 

 My floor boards are the usual teak and holy veneered.  Some years back 
I painted the bottoms and sides with resin.  However I forgot/missed one 
side on one floor board and of course, water got in and dark stained an 
approx. 1 square foot section.

I presume I have two options to deal with the darkened section, 1) 
replace the floor board, or 2) live with it.

Question: is there a 3rd option I am not aware of?

Rob Abbott
AZURA
C&C 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.


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Re: Stus-List Water Stained Floor Board

2017-04-26 Thread robert via CnC-List

Graham
The wood is simply stainedthere is no structural damage

Rob

On 2017-04-26 11:01 AM, Graham Young via CnC-List wrote:

Hi Rob,

Is the spot just stained or is the wood also showing some rot and 
structural weakening?  If the latter is the case, you may want to 
inject some penetrating epoxy into the area to strengthen it in 
addition to refinishing the surface.



Graham Young
S/V Spellbound
C&C 32



On Wednesday, April 26, 2017 9:13 AM, robert via CnC-List 
 wrote:



My floor boards are the usual teak and holy veneered.  Some years back
I painted the bottoms and sides with resin.  However I forgot/missed one
side on one floor board and of course, water got in and dark stained an
approx. 1 square foot section.

I presume I have two options to deal with the darkened section, 1)
replace the floor board, or 2) live with it.

Question: is there a 3rd option I am not aware of?

Rob Abbott
AZURA
C&C 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.



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Re: Stus-List Water Stained Floor Board

2017-04-26 Thread robert via CnC-List

Joel:

Thanks for the tip..I called every hardware retailer here and no 
carries a wood bleach that I can find.  I will try to find oxalic 
acidmaybe that will work.


Regards
Bob

On 2017-04-26 10:17 AM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List wrote:
 Rob, you can strip it and bleach it using wood bleach.  It will take 
multiple applications. I generally make the solution stronger than the 
label says. It is a mild acid so be careful what you get it on, 
including yourself. It may not remove the entire stain but it 
 certainly lighten it

Joel

On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 9:13 AM robert via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:


My floor boards are the usual teak and holy veneered.   Some years
back
I painted the bottoms and sides with resin.  However I
forgot/missed one
side on one floor board and of course, water got in and dark
stained an
approx. 1 square foot section.

I presume I have two options to deal with the darkened section, 1)
replace the floor board, or 2) live with it.

Question: is there a 3rd option I am not aware of?

Rob Abbott
AZURA
C&C 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.


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Re: Stus-List Water Stained Floor Board

2017-04-26 Thread Ron Ricci via CnC-List
Rob,

The cedar ceiling around one of our chimneys became water stained.  Every
one gave me advice ranging from oxalic acid to 40 grit paper.  A 50-50
solution of white vinegar and water did the trick.  I used a spray bottle
and got the wood good and soaked.  This did the trick and it is hard to tell
there was any staining or corrective action.  Fixing the chimney leak was
more challenging.

Good luck,
Ron
Ron Ricci
S/V Patriot
C&C 37+
Bristol, RI
ron.ri...@1968.usna.com

 

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Subject: Stus-List Water Stained Floor Board

My floor boards are the usual teak and holy veneered.   Some years back 
I painted the bottoms and sides with resin.  However I forgot/missed one
side on one floor board and of course, water got in and dark stained an
approx. 1 square foot section.

I presume I have two options to deal with the darkened section, 1) replace
the floor board, or 2) live with it.

Question: is there a 3rd option I am not aware of?

Rob Abbott
AZURA
C&C 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.


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Re: Stus-List Water Stained Floor Board

2017-04-26 Thread robert via CnC-List

Ron:

Thank you.I think I will give that a try before I do anything 
else.I will tape off the 1 sq. ft. area, apply a paint remover to 
remove the surface finish and then use the vinegar and water solution 
and see what happens.


Rob Abbott
AZURA
C&C 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.



On 2017-04-26 11:44 AM, Ron Ricci wrote:

Rob,

The cedar ceiling around one of our chimneys became water stained.  Every
one gave me advice ranging from oxalic acid to 40 grit paper.  A 50-50
solution of white vinegar and water did the trick.  I used a spray bottle
and got the wood good and soaked.  This did the trick and it is hard to tell
there was any staining or corrective action.  Fixing the chimney leak was
more challenging.

Good luck,
Ron
Ron Ricci
S/V Patriot
C&C 37+
Bristol, RI
ron.ri...@1968.usna.com

  


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Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2017 9:12 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: robert
Subject: Stus-List Water Stained Floor Board

My floor boards are the usual teak and holy veneered.   Some years back
I painted the bottoms and sides with resin.  However I forgot/missed one
side on one floor board and of course, water got in and dark stained an
approx. 1 square foot section.

I presume I have two options to deal with the darkened section, 1) replace
the floor board, or 2) live with it.

Question: is there a 3rd option I am not aware of?

Rob Abbott
AZURA
C&C 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.


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Re: Stus-List Water Stained Floor Board

2017-04-26 Thread Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List
FYI, Oxalic acid is commonly referred to as wood bleach, so yes, that should 
work.

Kindest Regards,

Bruce
847.404.5092

Please forgive any typos as this was sent from my iPhone.

> On Apr 26, 2017, at 10:29 AM, robert via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Joel:
> 
> Thanks for the tip..I called every hardware retailer here and no carries 
> a wood bleach that I can find.  I will try to find oxalic acidmaybe that 
> will work.
> 
> Regards
> Bob
> 
>> On 2017-04-26 10:17 AM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List wrote:
>>  Rob, you can strip it and bleach it using wood bleach.  It will take 
>> multiple applications. I generally make the solution stronger than the label 
>> says. It is a mild acid so be careful what you get it on, including 
>> yourself. It may not remove the entire stain but it  certainly lighten it 
>> Joel 
>> 
>>> On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 9:13 AM robert via CnC-List  
>>> wrote:
>>> My floor boards are the usual teak and holy veneered.   Some years back
>>> I painted the bottoms and sides with resin.  However I forgot/missed one
>>> side on one floor board and of course, water got in and dark stained an
>>> approx. 1 square foot section.
>>> 
>>> I presume I have two options to deal with the darkened section, 1)
>>> replace the floor board, or 2) live with it.
>>> 
>>> Question: is there a 3rd option I am not aware of?
>>> 
>>> Rob Abbott
>>> AZURA
>>> C&C 32 - 84
>>> Halifax, N.S.
>>> 
>>> 
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>>> wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to:  
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>> 
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Re: Stus-List Water Stained Floor Board

2017-04-26 Thread Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List
We also have water stained areas on our floor boards and will eventually want 
to refinish them.  Once we remove the old finish, what is the recommended 
recommended varnish?  I am presuming a good quality spar varnish, and I don't 
want to start a proverbial "varnish war".  :^)   That said, gloss? semi-gloss? 
satin?
Also, we'll have a number of spots around the windows and such, being vertical, 
rather than horizontal areas.  What's best for those?  They appear flatter from 
a finish perspective, and I would like to avoid clashing.  

Thanks! 
 Bruce Whitmore

(847) 404-5092 (mobile)
bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net


   

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Cc: Joel Aronson 
 Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2017 9:18 AM
 Subject: Re: Stus-List Water Stained Floor Board
  
 Rob, you can strip it and bleach it using wood bleach.  It will take multiple 
applications. I generally make the solution stronger than the label says. It is 
a mild acid so be careful what you get it on, including yourself. It may not 
remove the entire stain but it  certainly lighten it Joel 
On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 9:13 AM robert via CnC-List  
wrote:

My floor boards are the usual teak and holy veneered.   Some years back
I painted the bottoms and sides with resin.  However I forgot/missed one
side on one floor board and of course, water got in and dark stained an
approx. 1 square foot section.

I presume I have two options to deal with the darkened section, 1)
replace the floor board, or 2) live with it.

Question: is there a 3rd option I am not aware of?

Rob Abbott
AZURA
C&C 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.


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Re: Stus-List Water Stained Floor Board

2017-04-26 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
Ron,

As Bruce said, wood bleach is oxalic acid.

Vinegar has acetic acid.  They are both mild acids.

Oxalic acid is a frequent ingredient in many boat cleaning products.  It is
useful for removing the "bow mustache" some boats get when sailing in
waters with tannins and other brown staining constituents.

https://www.amazon.com/Oxalic-Acid-Bleaching-Wood-Net/dp/B001F2US4U

The advantage of using a mild acid is control.  You may have to make
multiple applications but you can control the rate of bleaching.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA
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