Re: Stus-List Who made our spars in the ‘70s?

2019-11-05 Thread Mike Macdonald via CnC-List 
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> On Nov 4, 2019, at 8:22 PM, Barbara L. Hickson via CnC-List 
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>  Does anyone know who would have made the mast and boom for my ‘76 C&C 33?  
> TIA. 
> 
> BLHickson
> Flight Risk 33-1
> Chas., SC
> 
> 
> 
> Barbara L. Hickson
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>   1. Re:  Water freezing characteristic (Josh Muckley)
>   2. Re:  Compass (Josh Muckley)
>   3. Re:  Compass (Matthew L. Wolford)
>   4. Re:  Compass (Matthew L. Wolford)
>   5. Re:  Compass (Della Barba, Joe)
>   6. Re:  Compass (Dreuge)
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> Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2019 09:38:53 -0500
> From: Josh Muckley 
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> Subject: Re: Stus-List Water freezing characteristic
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> For anyone who is curious about the thermodynamic properties of water.
> https://images.app.goo.gl/vRbfXaeYY1aXb3Zz8
> 
> Josh
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> On Mon, Nov 4, 2019, 9:08 AM CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List <
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> > Josh,
> >
> > Saw your comment about water.  I was taught that water freezes at 32
> > degrees but goes through a morph around 26 degrees where it expands
> > dramatically in a one time shock event.  That's when water pipes burst.
> > The expansion is a shock load to copper pipes which will fish mouth open at
> > a weak spot, usually in the sidewall of tubing, rarely in a fitting.  Steel
> > pipes behave differently usually pushing out a weaker cast fitting.  My
> > understanding is that as the temperature lowers, the ice does not expand
> > any further.  Is that about right or is there more to it?
> >
> > Chuck S
> >
> > ___
> >
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> From: Josh Muckley 
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> Subject: Re: Stus-List Compass
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> Now the seals are a little bit different story.  They could contract in
> accordance with the normally expected properties of other normal
> substances.  Naturally this could cause leaks.  I was thinking that the
> fear was frozen liquid expanding, causing a cracked lens.
> 
> Josh
> 
> 
> On Mon, Nov 4, 2019, 9:35 AM Robert Abbott via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
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> > In 2006, my boat was trucked from Wisconsin.  After launch, I noticed the
> > Ritchie compass was not reacting normally (slow to adjust to changes in
> > direction).  Took it to have it checked out.  Repair guy took it apart and
> > replaced a broken spring (he said, I really don't know what he did) and he
> > refilled with mineral oil.  Compass has worked fine since.
> >
> > He advised to remove the compass during winter layup as the freezing temps
> > here could possibly damage the seals.  I have not removed the compass
> > during the winter and so far there does not  appear to be any adverse
> > issue(s).  I felt removing the compass provided more chances of a mishap
> > (like me dropping it to the ground) than leaving it on the boat.  Since
> > most, if not all, of my boats neighbors did not remove them, neither would
> > I.
> >
> > I read somewhere that the freezing temp of mineral was 24F or -4C (it
> > contracts, not expands) and our temps get well below that
> >
> > Rob Abbott
> >> AZURA
> >> C&C 32 - 84
> >> Halifax, N.S.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> > ___
> >
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Re: Stus-List Who made our spars in the ‘70s?

2019-11-05 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List 
Klacko Spars made the mast for my 1971 35-1.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 7:22 PM Barbara L. Hickson via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Does anyone know who would have made the mast and boom for my ‘76 C&C 33?
> TIA.
>
> BLHickson
> Flight Risk 33-1
> Chas., SC
>
>
>
> Barbara L. Hickson
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>   1. Re:  Water freezing characteristic (Josh Muckley)
>   2. Re:  Compass (Josh Muckley)
>   3. Re:  Compass (Matthew L. Wolford)
>   4. Re:  Compass (Matthew L. Wolford)
>   5. Re:  Compass (Della Barba, Joe)
>   6. Re:  Compass (Dreuge)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2019 09:38:53 -0500
> From: Josh Muckley 
> To: "C&C List" 
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Water freezing characteristic
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> For anyone who is curious about the thermodynamic properties of water.
> https://images.app.goo.gl/vRbfXaeYY1aXb3Zz8
>
> Josh
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 4, 2019, 9:08 AM CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> > Josh,
> >
> > Saw your comment about water.  I was taught that water freezes at 32
> > degrees but goes through a morph around 26 degrees where it expands
> > dramatically in a one time shock event.  That's when water pipes burst.
> > The expansion is a shock load to copper pipes which will fish mouth open
> at
> > a weak spot, usually in the sidewall of tubing, rarely in a fitting.
> Steel
> > pipes behave differently usually pushing out a weaker cast fitting.  My
> > understanding is that as the temperature lowers, the ice does not expand
> > any further.  Is that about right or is there more to it?
> >
> > Chuck S
> >
> > ___
> >
> > Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions.  Each
> > and every one is greatly appreciated.  If you want to support the list -
> > use PayPal to send contribution --  https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
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> Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2019 09:45:07 -0500
> From: Josh Muckley 
> To: "C&C List" 
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> Now the seals are a little bit different story.  They could contract in
> accordance with the normally expected properties of other normal
> substances.  Naturally this could cause leaks.  I was thinking that the
> fear was frozen liquid expanding, causing a cracked lens.
>
> Josh
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 4, 2019, 9:35 AM Robert Abbott via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> > In 2006, my boat was trucked from Wisconsin.  After launch, I noticed the
> > Ritchie compass was not reacting normally (slow to adjust to changes in
> > direction).  Took it to have it checked out.  Repair guy took it apart
> and
> > replaced a broken spring (he said, I really don't know what he did) and
> he
> > refilled with mineral oil.  Compass has worked fine since.
> >
> > He advised to remove the compass during winter layup as the freezing
> temps
> > here could possibly damage the seals.  I have not removed the compass
> > during the winter and so far there does not  appear to be any adverse
> > issue(s).  I felt removing the compass provided more chances of a mishap
> > (like me dropping it to the ground) than leaving it on the boat.  Since
> > most, if not all, of my boats neighbors did not remove them, neither
> would
> > I.
> >
> > I read somewhere that the freezing temp of mineral was 24F or -4C (it
> > contracts, not expands) and our temps get well below that
> >
> > Rob Abbott
> >> AZURA
> >> C&C 32 - 84
> >> Halifax, N.S.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> > ___
> >
> > Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions.  Each
> > and every one is greatly appreciated.  If you want to support the list -
> > use PayPal to send contribution --  https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
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Re: Stus-List Who made our spars in the ‘70s?

2019-11-04 Thread Robert Mazza via CnC-List 
I'm not sure why nobody has yet answered this, but if the boat was built by
the C&C Production facility in Niagara-on-the-Lake the spar was most likely
built "in house" by the C&C spar shop.

Rob Mazza

On Mon, Nov 4, 2019, 8:22 PM Barbara L. Hickson via CnC-List, <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Does anyone know who would have made the mast and boom for my ‘76 C&C 33?
> TIA.
>
> BLHickson
> Flight Risk 33-1
> Chas., SC
>
>
>
> Barbara L. Hickson
> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
> 
>
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> Today's Topics:
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>   1. Re:  Water freezing characteristic (Josh Muckley)
>   2. Re:  Compass (Josh Muckley)
>   3. Re:  Compass (Matthew L. Wolford)
>   4. Re:  Compass (Matthew L. Wolford)
>   5. Re:  Compass (Della Barba, Joe)
>   6. Re:  Compass (Dreuge)
>
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2019 09:38:53 -0500
> From: Josh Muckley 
> To: "C&C List" 
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Water freezing characteristic
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> For anyone who is curious about the thermodynamic properties of water.
> https://images.app.goo.gl/vRbfXaeYY1aXb3Zz8
>
> Josh
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 4, 2019, 9:08 AM CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> > Josh,
> >
> > Saw your comment about water.  I was taught that water freezes at 32
> > degrees but goes through a morph around 26 degrees where it expands
> > dramatically in a one time shock event.  That's when water pipes burst.
> > The expansion is a shock load to copper pipes which will fish mouth open
> at
> > a weak spot, usually in the sidewall of tubing, rarely in a fitting.
> Steel
> > pipes behave differently usually pushing out a weaker cast fitting.  My
> > understanding is that as the temperature lowers, the ice does not expand
> > any further.  Is that about right or is there more to it?
> >
> > Chuck S
> >
> > ___
> >
> > Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions.  Each
> > and every one is greatly appreciated.  If you want to support the list -
> > use PayPal to send contribution --  https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
> >
> >
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> Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2019 09:45:07 -0500
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> To: "C&C List" 
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> Now the seals are a little bit different story.  They could contract in
> accordance with the normally expected properties of other normal
> substances.  Naturally this could cause leaks.  I was thinking that the
> fear was frozen liquid expanding, causing a cracked lens.
>
> Josh
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 4, 2019, 9:35 AM Robert Abbott via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> > In 2006, my boat was trucked from Wisconsin.  After launch, I noticed the
> > Ritchie compass was not reacting normally (slow to adjust to changes in
> > direction).  Took it to have it checked out.  Repair guy took it apart
> and
> > replaced a broken spring (he said, I really don't know what he did) and
> he
> > refilled with mineral oil.  Compass has worked fine since.
> >
> > He advised to remove the compass during winter layup as the freezing
> temps
> > here could possibly damage the seals.  I have not removed the compass
> > during the winter and so far there does not  appear to be any adverse
> > issue(s).  I felt removing the compass provided more chances of a mishap
> > (like me dropping it to the ground) than leaving it on the boat.  Since
> > most, if not all, of my boats neighbors did not remove them, neither
> would
> > I.
> >
> > I read somewhere that the freezing temp of mineral was 24F or -4C (it
> > contracts, not expands) and our temps get well below that
> >
> > Rob Abbott
> >> AZURA
> >> C&C 32 - 84
> >> Halifax, N.S.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> > ___
> >
> > Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions.  Each
> > and every one is greatly appreciated.  If you want to support the list -
> > use PayPal to send contribution --  https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
>

Re: Stus-List Who made our spars in the ‘70s?

2019-11-04 Thread Barbara L. Hickson via CnC-List 
Does anyone know who would have made the mast and boom for my ‘76 C&C 33?  TIA. 
BLHicksonFlight Risk 33-1Chas., SC


Barbara L. HicksonSent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone


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Today's Topics:

  1. Re:  Water freezing characteristic (Josh Muckley)
  2. Re:  Compass (Josh Muckley)
  3. Re:  Compass (Matthew L. Wolford)
  4. Re:  Compass (Matthew L. Wolford)
  5. Re:  Compass (Della Barba, Joe)
  6. Re:  Compass (Dreuge)


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Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2019 09:38:53 -0500
From: Josh Muckley 
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For anyone who is curious about the thermodynamic properties of water.
https://images.app.goo.gl/vRbfXaeYY1aXb3Zz8

Josh




On Mon, Nov 4, 2019, 9:08 AM CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Josh,
>
> Saw your comment about water.  I was taught that water freezes at 32
> degrees but goes through a morph around 26 degrees where it expands
> dramatically in a one time shock event.  That's when water pipes burst.
> The expansion is a shock load to copper pipes which will fish mouth open at
> a weak spot, usually in the sidewall of tubing, rarely in a fitting.  Steel
> pipes behave differently usually pushing out a weaker cast fitting.  My
> understanding is that as the temperature lowers, the ice does not expand
> any further.  Is that about right or is there more to it?
>
> Chuck S
>
> ___
>
> Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions.  Each
> and every one is greatly appreciated.  If you want to support the list -
> use PayPal to send contribution --  https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
>
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Now the seals are a little bit different story.  They could contract in
accordance with the normally expected properties of other normal
substances.  Naturally this could cause leaks.  I was thinking that the
fear was frozen liquid expanding, causing a cracked lens.

Josh


On Mon, Nov 4, 2019, 9:35 AM Robert Abbott via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> In 2006, my boat was trucked from Wisconsin.  After launch, I noticed the
> Ritchie compass was not reacting normally (slow to adjust to changes in
> direction).  Took it to have it checked out.  Repair guy took it apart and
> replaced a broken spring (he said, I really don't know what he did) and he
> refilled with mineral oil.  Compass has worked fine since.
>
> He advised to remove the compass during winter layup as the freezing temps
> here could possibly damage the seals.  I have not removed the compass
> during the winter and so far there does not  appear to be any adverse
> issue(s).  I felt removing the compass provided more chances of a mishap
> (like me dropping it to the ground) than leaving it on the boat.  Since
> most, if not all, of my boats neighbors did not remove them, neither would
> I.
>
> I read somewhere that the freezing temp of mineral was 24F or -4C (it
> contracts, not expands) and our temps get well below that
>
> Rob Abbott
>> AZURA
>> C&C 32 - 84
>> Halifax, N.S.
>>
>>
>>
>>
> ___
>
> Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions.  Each
> and every one is greatly appreciated.  If you want to support the list -
> use PayPal to send contribution --  https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
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I also remove my large hatch cover (32? x 32?).  After replacing the lens a few 
years ago, we had a stretch of ?15 F temperatures for two or three days, and 
the aluminum contracted so much that the lens was pushed out