Re: Stus-List 1988 C

2018-07-13 Thread Persuasion37 via CnC-List
Did someone put the brake on?

Mike
PERSUASION
C 37 K/CB
Long Sault

> On Jul 13, 2018, at 9:36 PM, Tom cunningham via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hello All!
> I’m new to this list and am really not sure how it works (or if I’ve set it 
> up at all correctly) 
> My name is Tom and I’m in shelter island N.Y.
> I’ve recently purchased an 1982 landfall 35 and am having the most horrific 
> time with the rudder.
> The helm was pretty free when I first inspected the boat (I was able to 
> easily swing the rudder by hand from the ground)
> However, during the time the boat was in the yard, whenever I came back to 
> the steering it seemed stiffer but I was caught up in other goals and didn’t 
> pay enough mind so did nothing.
> Now though, with the boat in the water it takes a tremendous amount of force 
> to move the rudder at all. I’ve troubleshot and disconnected the Edson helm 
> and after making a sling have attempted to drop the rudder to see if it’s 
> bent but it won’t budge. I’m currently injecting penetrating oil where 
> possible and manipulating  the rudder with the emergency tiller.  I’ve 
> already spoken with the c and c guys in Canada whom, after hearing me out, 
> thought it was an interesting problem. 
> I too am interested and am looking for help.
> 
> Tom Cunningham
> tomcunning...@me.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 13, 2018, at 2:26 PM, Len Mitchell via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Sorry about the blank reply earlier!!!
>> 
>> Noah, X 3 re a Mars bulb. The only thing I would caution you about is the 
>> 37R keel, from what I have read, some of the 37Rs had voids in the keel 
>> filled with sand and/or filler to reduce weight. I think I would sound your 
>> keel with a small hammer to make sure it is solid before you commit to a 
>> certain size (weight) bulb. Mars may have records of your boat if they 
>> supplied the original lead keel. Also consider the rudder depth, no point 
>> having your rudder deeper than your keel or you could find bottom rudder 
>> first!
>> Len Mitchell
>> Crazy Legs
>> 1989 37+
>> Midland On
>> 
>> Sent from my mobile device. 
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Re: Stus-List 1988 C

2018-07-13 Thread Tom cunningham via CnC-List
Hello All!
I’m new to this list and am really not sure how it works (or if I’ve set it up 
at all correctly) 
My name is Tom and I’m in shelter island N.Y.
I’ve recently purchased an 1982 landfall 35 and am having the most horrific 
time with the rudder.
The helm was pretty free when I first inspected the boat (I was able to easily 
swing the rudder by hand from the ground)
However, during the time the boat was in the yard, whenever I came back to the 
steering it seemed stiffer but I was caught up in other goals and didn’t pay 
enough mind so did nothing.
Now though, with the boat in the water it takes a tremendous amount of force to 
move the rudder at all. I’ve troubleshot and disconnected the Edson helm and 
after making a sling have attempted to drop the rudder to see if it’s bent but 
it won’t budge. I’m currently injecting penetrating oil where possible and 
manipulating  the rudder with the emergency tiller.  I’ve already spoken with 
the c and c guys in Canada whom, after hearing me out, thought it was an 
interesting problem. 
I too am interested and am looking for help.

Tom Cunningham
tomcunning...@me.com






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> On Jul 13, 2018, at 2:26 PM, Len Mitchell via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Sorry about the blank reply earlier!!!
> 
> Noah, X 3 re a Mars bulb. The only thing I would caution you about is the 37R 
> keel, from what I have read, some of the 37Rs had voids in the keel filled 
> with sand and/or filler to reduce weight. I think I would sound your keel 
> with a small hammer to make sure it is solid before you commit to a certain 
> size (weight) bulb. Mars may have records of your boat if they supplied the 
> original lead keel. Also consider the rudder depth, no point having your 
> rudder deeper than your keel or you could find bottom rudder first!
> Len Mitchell
> Crazy Legs
> 1989 37+
> Midland On
> 
> Sent from my mobile device. 
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> 
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> every one is greatly appreciated.  If you want to support the list - use 
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Re: Stus-List 1988 C

2018-07-13 Thread Ken Heaton via CnC-List
Second try at including the drawing:
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-UGxSu8vnaOY/WrcFPOB9mUI/AAABuX8/fZG5XGUGQUQ6ONsYZ5Sfb_Bcm1aC9Uo4QCEwYBhgL/s1600/Keel%2BDesign.jpg

On Fri, 13 Jul 2018 at 21:34, Ken Heaton  wrote:

> Assailant's keel weight is listed in it's build file as 6,885 lbs so it
> was lightened about 500 lbs from the stock 7,250 lbs. at the factory,
> probably by using sand occlusions up high in the casting.  Here is a
> drawing of what those occlusions look like and where they are in the keel:
>
> http://c-c-37-40.blogspot.com/p/inside-c_15.html
>
> Ken H.
>
>
>
> On Fri, 13 Jul 2018 at 15:27, Len Mitchell via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Sorry about the blank reply earlier!!!
>>
>> Noah, X 3 re a Mars bulb. The only thing I would caution you about is the
>> 37R keel, from what I have read, some of the 37Rs had voids in the keel
>> filled with sand and/or filler to reduce weight. I think I would sound your
>> keel with a small hammer to make sure it is solid before you commit to a
>> certain size (weight) bulb. Mars may have records of your boat if they
>> supplied the original lead keel. Also consider the rudder depth, no point
>> having your rudder deeper than your keel or you could find bottom rudder
>> first!
>> Len Mitchell
>> Crazy Legs
>> 1989 37+
>> Midland On
>>
>> Sent from my mobile device.
>> ___
>>
>> Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions.  Each
>> and every one is greatly appreciated.  If you want to support the list -
>> use PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
>>
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Re: Stus-List 1988 C

2018-07-13 Thread Ken Heaton via CnC-List
Assailant's keel weight is listed in it's build file as 6,885 lbs so it was
lightened about 500 lbs from the stock 7,250 lbs. at the factory, probably
by using sand occlusions up high in the casting.  Here is a drawing of what
those occlusions look like and where they are in the keel:

http://c-c-37-40.blogspot.com/p/inside-c_15.html

Ken H.



On Fri, 13 Jul 2018 at 15:27, Len Mitchell via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Sorry about the blank reply earlier!!!
>
> Noah, X 3 re a Mars bulb. The only thing I would caution you about is the
> 37R keel, from what I have read, some of the 37Rs had voids in the keel
> filled with sand and/or filler to reduce weight. I think I would sound your
> keel with a small hammer to make sure it is solid before you commit to a
> certain size (weight) bulb. Mars may have records of your boat if they
> supplied the original lead keel. Also consider the rudder depth, no point
> having your rudder deeper than your keel or you could find bottom rudder
> first!
> Len Mitchell
> Crazy Legs
> 1989 37+
> Midland On
>
> Sent from my mobile device.
> ___
>
> Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions.  Each
> and every one is greatly appreciated.  If you want to support the list -
> use PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
>
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Stus-List 1988 C

2018-07-13 Thread Len Mitchell via CnC-List
Sorry about the blank reply earlier!!!

Noah, X 3 re a Mars bulb. The only thing I would caution you about is the 37R 
keel, from what I have read, some of the 37Rs had voids in the keel filled with 
sand and/or filler to reduce weight. I think I would sound your keel with a 
small hammer to make sure it is solid before you commit to a certain size 
(weight) bulb. Mars may have records of your boat if they supplied the original 
lead keel. Also consider the rudder depth, no point having your rudder deeper 
than your keel or you could find bottom rudder first!
Len Mitchell
Crazy Legs
1989 37+
Midland On

Sent from my mobile device. 
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