Re: Stus-List Antifreeze Mystery

2015-05-26 Thread John Irvin via CnC-List
Sounds like leaky impeller gasket.

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Subject: Stus-List Antifreeze Mystery

Burt:

If you are referring to the 'water pump' on the front of the engine, 
that is not where the antifreeze is originating from.it appears to 
be dripping from the back of the engine on the port side or to the right 
looking into the engine compartment from the companionway.

Rob Abbott
AZURA
CC 32 -84
Halifax, N.S.

On 2015-05-26 10:59 AM, Burt Stratton via CnC-List wrote:
 I would replace my water pump shaft seals. Can't hurt and might fix the
 problem.

 Burt
 1974 CC 33

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 Subject: Re: Stus-List Antifreeze Mystery

 Check to insure your engine block drain valves are tight before winter
 storage. Second thought is weird but offered anyhow. Is antifreeze fresh?
 Could there be a blockage somewhere where the antifreeze is diluted and
 freezes which would expand and force the top stuff out somehow. I said it
 was a weird thought! I will discuss it with the mechanic at the yard who is
 pretty sharp and seen most things.

 John
 CC 32
 Arpeggio

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 Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2015 11:25 AM
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 Cc: robert
 Subject: Stus-List Antifreeze Mystery

 After the engine is winterized in the Fall, I place a plastic pan under
 it.not sure why but I do.  Every Spring, there is approximately a half a
 cup or 250 ml of antifreeze in the pan.

 I have looked everywhere for the source of this antifreeze but I can't find
 out where it is coming from.  The boat was launched 3 weeks ago, the engine
 has about 3 hours on it since then, the pan is still under the engine but
 there is no antifreeze in it.  And the antifreeze does not appear during the
 sailing season.

 I notice every Spring the level of the antifreeze in the 'overflow
 container' is down a bit and I refill to the 'FULL LEVEL' but that container
 is not leaking.  It's a mystery!

 Anybody experience this and/or have any ideas where this antifreeze could be
 originating from?

 Rob Abbott
 AZURA
 CC 32 - 84
 Halifax, N.S.


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Re: Stus-List Antifreeze Mystery

2015-05-26 Thread robert via CnC-List

John:

Taking into account my previous post to Burt, can you elaborate on the 
leaky impeller gasket.


Rob Abbott
AZURA
CC 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.



On 2015-05-26 1:01 PM, John Irvin via CnC-List wrote:

Sounds like leaky impeller gasket.

From: robert via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Sent: ‎2015-‎05-‎26 10:12 AM
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Cc: robert mailto:robertabb...@eastlink.ca
Subject: Stus-List Antifreeze Mystery

Burt:

If you are referring to the 'water pump' on the front of the engine,
that is not where the antifreeze is originating from.it appears to
be dripping from the back of the engine on the port side or to the right
looking into the engine compartment from the companionway.

Rob Abbott
AZURA
CC 32 -84
Halifax, N.S.

On 2015-05-26 10:59 AM, Burt Stratton via CnC-List wrote:
 I would replace my water pump shaft seals. Can't hurt and might fix the
 problem.

 Burt
 1974 CC 33



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robert

 via CnC-List
 Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2015 11:25 AM
 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
 Cc: robert
 Subject: Stus-List Antifreeze Mystery

 After the engine is winterized in the Fall, I place a plastic pan under
 it.not sure why but I do.  Every Spring, there is approximately 
a half a

 cup or 250 ml of antifreeze in the pan.

 I have looked everywhere for the source of this antifreeze but I 
can't find
 out where it is coming from.  The boat was launched 3 weeks ago, the 
engine
 has about 3 hours on it since then, the pan is still under the 
engine but
 there is no antifreeze in it.  And the antifreeze does not appear 
during the

 sailing season.

 I notice every Spring the level of the antifreeze in the 'overflow
 container' is down a bit and I refill to the 'FULL LEVEL' but that 
container

 is not leaking.  It's a mystery!

 Anybody experience this and/or have any ideas where this antifreeze 
could be

 originating from?

 Rob Abbott
 AZURA
 CC 32 - 84
 Halifax, N.S.





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Re: Stus-List Antifreeze Mystery

2015-05-26 Thread Burt Stratton via CnC-List
I would replace my water pump shaft seals. Can't hurt and might fix the
problem.

Burt
1974 CC 33 

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Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2015 2:34 PM
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Cc: John Russo
Subject: Re: Stus-List Antifreeze Mystery

Check to insure your engine block drain valves are tight before winter
storage. Second thought is weird but offered anyhow. Is antifreeze fresh?
Could there be a blockage somewhere where the antifreeze is diluted and
freezes which would expand and force the top stuff out somehow. I said it
was a weird thought! I will discuss it with the mechanic at the yard who is
pretty sharp and seen most things.

John
CC 32
Arpeggio  

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Subject: Stus-List Antifreeze Mystery

After the engine is winterized in the Fall, I place a plastic pan under
it.not sure why but I do.  Every Spring, there is approximately a half a
cup or 250 ml of antifreeze in the pan.

I have looked everywhere for the source of this antifreeze but I can't find
out where it is coming from.  The boat was launched 3 weeks ago, the engine
has about 3 hours on it since then, the pan is still under the engine but
there is no antifreeze in it.  And the antifreeze does not appear during the
sailing season.

I notice every Spring the level of the antifreeze in the 'overflow
container' is down a bit and I refill to the 'FULL LEVEL' but that container
is not leaking.  It's a mystery!

Anybody experience this and/or have any ideas where this antifreeze could be
originating from?

Rob Abbott
AZURA
CC 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.


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Re: Stus-List Antifreeze Mystery

2015-05-26 Thread Rick Rohwer via CnC-List
Gotta be a freeze plug that weeps.  Contracts when cold and seals when warm.   
 On May 24, 2015, at 8:21 PM, Brent Driedger via CnC-List 
 cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:
 
 Interesting problem. 
 I have a small John Deere tractor with a 23 hp Yanmar engine. When the 
 temperature is hovering lower than minus 15c a small amount of antifreeze 
 leeks out onto the garage floor.  I've always wondered why. 
 There's little change in the overall volume of the cooling system and all 
 summer long there's no issue. Maybe a Yanmar thing. 
 
 Brent
 27-5
 Lake Winnipeg. 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On May 24, 2015, at 8:24 PM, robert via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
 wrote:
 
 John:
 
 Thank you both good tips...your first one could be the culprit but your 
 second one could also be the  culprit.the antifreeze (Preston) is 
 approx. 8 years oldI will flush and replace it before Fall layup and see 
 what happens.  As I said earlier, it does not happen after launch and before 
 hauljust during the cold of winter.
 
 A few years back, one of the engine block antifreeze drain valves came loose 
 during the sailing  motoring season which was noticed when antifreeze 
 entered the bilgea little stress until the loose valve was detected.  
 Some times we get lucky!
 
 Rob Abbott
 AZURA
 CC 32 - 84
 Halifax, N.S.
 
 
 
 On 2015-05-24 3:33 PM, John Russo via CnC-List wrote:
 Check to insure your engine block drain valves are tight before winter
 storage. Second thought is weird but offered anyhow. Is antifreeze fresh?
 Could there be a blockage somewhere where the antifreeze is diluted and
 freezes which would expand and force the top stuff out somehow. I said it
 was a weird thought! I will discuss it with the mechanic at the yard who is
 pretty sharp and seen most things.
 
 John
 CC 32
 Arpeggio
 
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 From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of robert
 via CnC-List
 Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2015 11:25 AM
 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
 Cc: robert
 Subject: Stus-List Antifreeze Mystery
 
 After the engine is winterized in the Fall, I place a plastic pan under
 it.not sure why but I do.  Every Spring, there is approximately a half a
 cup or 250 ml of antifreeze in the pan.
 
 I have looked everywhere for the source of this antifreeze but I can't find
 out where it is coming from.  The boat was launched 3 weeks ago, the engine
 has about 3 hours on it since then, the pan is still under the engine but
 there is no antifreeze in it.  And the antifreeze does not appear during the
 sailing season.
 
 I notice every Spring the level of the antifreeze in the 'overflow
 container' is down a bit and I refill to the 'FULL LEVEL' but that container
 is not leaking.  It's a mystery!
 
 Anybody experience this and/or have any ideas where this antifreeze could be
 originating from?
 
 Rob Abbott
 AZURA
 CC 32 - 84
 Halifax, N.S.
 
 
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Re: Stus-List Antifreeze Mystery

2015-05-25 Thread Glenn via CnC-List
I discovered that the radiator cap on the after market heat exchanger 
was worn and allowing anti-freeze to escape when the engine heated up.  
Replaced the radiator cap with a new one and it seems to have solved 
that problem.  I too had drain valves that would mysteriously open.  
Solved that problem first, but the problem persisted and found the 
radiator cap issue.  Gremlins pop up in many places.


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Subject: Stus-List Antifreeze Mystery


John:

Thank you both good tips...your first one could be the culprit but 
your second one could also be the  culprit.the antifreeze (Preston) 
is approx. 8 years oldI will flush and replace it before Fall layup 
and see what happens.  As I said earlier, it does not happen after 
launch and before hauljust during the cold of winter.


A few years back, one of the engine block antifreeze drain valves came 
loose during the sailing  motoring season which was noticed when 
antifreeze entered the bilgea little stress until the loose valve 
was detected.  Some times we get lucky!


Rob Abbott
AZURA
CC 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.



On 2015-05-24 3:33 PM, John Russo via CnC-List wrote:

Check to insure your engine block drain valves are tight before winter
storage. Second thought is weird but offered anyhow. Is antifreeze 
fresh?
Could there be a blockage somewhere where the antifreeze is diluted 
and
freezes which would expand and force the top stuff out somehow. I said 
it
was a weird thought! I will discuss it with the mechanic at the yard 
who is

pretty sharp and seen most things.

John
CC 32
Arpeggio

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robert

via CnC-List
Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2015 11:25 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: robert
Subject: Stus-List Antifreeze Mystery

After the engine is winterized in the Fall, I place a plastic pan 
under
it.not sure why but I do.  Every Spring, there is approximately a 
half a

cup or 250 ml of antifreeze in the pan.

I have looked everywhere for the source of this antifreeze but I can't 
find
out where it is coming from.  The boat was launched 3 weeks ago, the 
engine
has about 3 hours on it since then, the pan is still under the engine 
but
there is no antifreeze in it.  And the antifreeze does not appear 
during the

sailing season.

I notice every Spring the level of the antifreeze in the 'overflow
container' is down a bit and I refill to the 'FULL LEVEL' but that 
container

is not leaking.  It's a mystery!

Anybody experience this and/or have any ideas where this antifreeze 
could be

originating from?

Rob Abbott
AZURA
CC 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.


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Re: Stus-List Antifreeze Mystery

2015-05-25 Thread Marek Fluder via CnC-List
Rob,

I have noticed leaks of the antifreeze throughout last winter as well. (1st
winter with the new to me boat, Yanmar 3ym30, extended life antifreeze).
All was fine in the previous summer.
Some hoses carrying the antifreeze needed to be tightened up and the leaks
went away.
The coldness causes the nipple/hose seal not to be as tight as it is in
warmer temperatures.

Marek
C320
Hamilton, ON



On Sun, May 24, 2015 at 9:24 PM, robert via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com
wrote:

 John:

 Thank you both good tips...your first one could be the culprit but
 your second one could also be the  culprit.the antifreeze (Preston) is
 approx. 8 years oldI will flush and replace it before Fall layup and
 see what happens.  As I said earlier, it does not happen after launch and
 before hauljust during the cold of winter.

 A few years back, one of the engine block antifreeze drain valves came
 loose during the sailing  motoring season which was noticed when
 antifreeze entered the bilgea little stress until the loose valve was
 detected.  Some times we get lucky!

 Rob Abbott
 AZURA
 CC 32 - 84
 Halifax, N.S.



 On 2015-05-24 3:33 PM, John Russo via CnC-List wrote:

 Check to insure your engine block drain valves are tight before winter
 storage. Second thought is weird but offered anyhow. Is antifreeze fresh?
 Could there be a blockage somewhere where the antifreeze is diluted and
 freezes which would expand and force the top stuff out somehow. I said it
 was a weird thought! I will discuss it with the mechanic at the yard who
 is
 pretty sharp and seen most things.

 John
 CC 32
 Arpeggio

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 From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of robert
 via CnC-List
 Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2015 11:25 AM
 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
 Cc: robert
 Subject: Stus-List Antifreeze Mystery

 After the engine is winterized in the Fall, I place a plastic pan under
 it.not sure why but I do.  Every Spring, there is approximately a
 half a
 cup or 250 ml of antifreeze in the pan.

 I have looked everywhere for the source of this antifreeze but I can't
 find
 out where it is coming from.  The boat was launched 3 weeks ago, the
 engine
 has about 3 hours on it since then, the pan is still under the engine but
 there is no antifreeze in it.  And the antifreeze does not appear during
 the
 sailing season.

 I notice every Spring the level of the antifreeze in the 'overflow
 container' is down a bit and I refill to the 'FULL LEVEL' but that
 container
 is not leaking.  It's a mystery!

 Anybody experience this and/or have any ideas where this antifreeze could
 be
 originating from?

 Rob Abbott
 AZURA
 CC 32 - 84
 Halifax, N.S.


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Re: Stus-List Antifreeze Mystery

2015-05-25 Thread Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List

when you replaced the radiator cap, was it a 7 psi or 15 psi one?

Marek

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From: Glenn via CnC-List

Sent: Monday, May 25, 2015 8:58 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Glenn
Subject: Re: Stus-List Antifreeze Mystery

I discovered that the radiator cap on the after market heat exchanger
was worn and allowing anti-freeze to escape when the engine heated up.
Replaced the radiator cap with a new one and it seems to have solved
that problem.  I too had drain valves that would mysteriously open.
Solved that problem first, but the problem persisted and found the
radiator cap issue.  Gremlins pop up in many places.

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To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: robert robertabb...@eastlink.ca
Sent: 5/24/2015 9:24:58 PM
Subject: Stus-List Antifreeze Mystery


John:

Thank you both good tips...your first one could be the culprit but your 
second one could also be the  culprit.the antifreeze (Preston) is 
approx. 8 years oldI will flush and replace it before Fall layup and 
see what happens.  As I said earlier, it does not happen after launch and 
before hauljust during the cold of winter.


A few years back, one of the engine block antifreeze drain valves came 
loose during the sailing  motoring season which was noticed when 
antifreeze entered the bilgea little stress until the loose valve was 
detected.  Some times we get lucky!


Rob Abbott
AZURA
CC 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.



On 2015-05-24 3:33 PM, John Russo via CnC-List wrote:

Check to insure your engine block drain valves are tight before winter
storage. Second thought is weird but offered anyhow. Is antifreeze fresh?
Could there be a blockage somewhere where the antifreeze is diluted and
freezes which would expand and force the top stuff out somehow. I said it
was a weird thought! I will discuss it with the mechanic at the yard who 
is

pretty sharp and seen most things.

John
CC 32
Arpeggio

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via CnC-List
Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2015 11:25 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: robert
Subject: Stus-List Antifreeze Mystery

After the engine is winterized in the Fall, I place a plastic pan under
it.not sure why but I do.  Every Spring, there is approximately a half 
a

cup or 250 ml of antifreeze in the pan.

I have looked everywhere for the source of this antifreeze but I can't 
find
out where it is coming from.  The boat was launched 3 weeks ago, the 
engine

has about 3 hours on it since then, the pan is still under the engine but
there is no antifreeze in it.  And the antifreeze does not appear during 
the

sailing season.

I notice every Spring the level of the antifreeze in the 'overflow
container' is down a bit and I refill to the 'FULL LEVEL' but that 
container

is not leaking.  It's a mystery!

Anybody experience this and/or have any ideas where this antifreeze could 
be

originating from?

Rob Abbott
AZURA
CC 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.


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Re: Stus-List Antifreeze Mystery

2015-05-24 Thread robert via CnC-List
Sounds more probable than Rich's theory.might putting paper towel 
around the area that might indicate if there is a leak.  And it only 
happens during the winter so the cold is obviously causing the 
leakagejust exactly where.


Rob Abbott
AZURA
CC 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.

On 2015-05-24 1:03 PM, S Thomas via CnC-List wrote:

Maybe the pump shaft seal leaks a bit when it is super cold?

Steve Thomas
CC27 MKIII
Port Stanley, ON

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Subject: Stus-List Antifreeze Mystery


After the engine is winterized in the Fall, I place a plastic pan 
under it.not sure why but I do. Every Spring, there is 
approximately a half a cup or 250 ml of antifreeze in the pan.


I have looked everywhere for the source of this antifreeze but I 
can't find out where it is coming from.  The boat was launched 3 
weeks ago, the engine has about 3 hours on it since then, the pan is 
still under the engine but there is no antifreeze in it. And the 
antifreeze does not appear during the sailing season.


I notice every Spring the level of the antifreeze in the 'overflow 
container' is down a bit and I refill to the 'FULL LEVEL' but that 
container is not leaking.  It's a mystery!


Anybody experience this and/or have any ideas where this antifreeze 
could be originating from?


Rob Abbott
AZURA
CC 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.


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Stus-List Antifreeze Mystery

2015-05-24 Thread robert via CnC-List
After the engine is winterized in the Fall, I place a plastic pan under 
it.not sure why but I do.  Every Spring, there is approximately a 
half a cup or 250 ml of antifreeze in the pan.


I have looked everywhere for the source of this antifreeze but I can't 
find out where it is coming from.  The boat was launched 3 weeks ago, 
the engine has about 3 hours on it since then, the pan is still under 
the engine but there is no antifreeze in it.  And the antifreeze does 
not appear during the sailing season.


I notice every Spring the level of the antifreeze in the 'overflow 
container' is down a bit and I refill to the 'FULL LEVEL' but that 
container is not leaking.  It's a mystery!


Anybody experience this and/or have any ideas where this antifreeze 
could be originating from?


Rob Abbott
AZURA
CC 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.


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Re: Stus-List Antifreeze Mystery

2015-05-24 Thread John Russo via CnC-List
Check to insure your engine block drain valves are tight before winter
storage. Second thought is weird but offered anyhow. Is antifreeze fresh?
Could there be a blockage somewhere where the antifreeze is diluted and
freezes which would expand and force the top stuff out somehow. I said it
was a weird thought! I will discuss it with the mechanic at the yard who is
pretty sharp and seen most things.

John
CC 32 
Arpeggio  

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via CnC-List
Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2015 11:25 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: robert
Subject: Stus-List Antifreeze Mystery

After the engine is winterized in the Fall, I place a plastic pan under
it.not sure why but I do.  Every Spring, there is approximately a half a
cup or 250 ml of antifreeze in the pan.

I have looked everywhere for the source of this antifreeze but I can't find
out where it is coming from.  The boat was launched 3 weeks ago, the engine
has about 3 hours on it since then, the pan is still under the engine but
there is no antifreeze in it.  And the antifreeze does not appear during the
sailing season.

I notice every Spring the level of the antifreeze in the 'overflow
container' is down a bit and I refill to the 'FULL LEVEL' but that container
is not leaking.  It's a mystery!

Anybody experience this and/or have any ideas where this antifreeze could be
originating from?

Rob Abbott
AZURA
CC 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.


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Stus-List Antifreeze Mystery

2015-05-24 Thread robert via CnC-List

John:

Thank you both good tips...your first one could be the culprit but 
your second one could also be the  culprit.the antifreeze (Preston) 
is approx. 8 years oldI will flush and replace it before Fall layup 
and see what happens.  As I said earlier, it does not happen after 
launch and before hauljust during the cold of winter.


A few years back, one of the engine block antifreeze drain valves came 
loose during the sailing  motoring season which was noticed when 
antifreeze entered the bilgea little stress until the loose valve 
was detected.  Some times we get lucky!


Rob Abbott
AZURA
CC 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.



On 2015-05-24 3:33 PM, John Russo via CnC-List wrote:

Check to insure your engine block drain valves are tight before winter
storage. Second thought is weird but offered anyhow. Is antifreeze fresh?
Could there be a blockage somewhere where the antifreeze is diluted and
freezes which would expand and force the top stuff out somehow. I said it
was a weird thought! I will discuss it with the mechanic at the yard who is
pretty sharp and seen most things.

John
CC 32
Arpeggio

-Original Message-
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via CnC-List
Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2015 11:25 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: robert
Subject: Stus-List Antifreeze Mystery

After the engine is winterized in the Fall, I place a plastic pan under
it.not sure why but I do.  Every Spring, there is approximately a half a
cup or 250 ml of antifreeze in the pan.

I have looked everywhere for the source of this antifreeze but I can't find
out where it is coming from.  The boat was launched 3 weeks ago, the engine
has about 3 hours on it since then, the pan is still under the engine but
there is no antifreeze in it.  And the antifreeze does not appear during the
sailing season.

I notice every Spring the level of the antifreeze in the 'overflow
container' is down a bit and I refill to the 'FULL LEVEL' but that container
is not leaking.  It's a mystery!

Anybody experience this and/or have any ideas where this antifreeze could be
originating from?

Rob Abbott
AZURA
CC 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.


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Re: Stus-List Antifreeze Mystery

2015-05-24 Thread Brent Driedger via CnC-List
Interesting problem. 
I have a small John Deere tractor with a 23 hp Yanmar engine. When the 
temperature is hovering lower than minus 15c a small amount of antifreeze leeks 
out onto the garage floor.  I've always wondered why. 
There's little change in the overall volume of the cooling system and all 
summer long there's no issue. Maybe a Yanmar thing. 

Brent
27-5
Lake Winnipeg. 

Sent from my iPhone

 On May 24, 2015, at 8:24 PM, robert via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
 wrote:
 
 John:
 
 Thank you both good tips...your first one could be the culprit but your 
 second one could also be the  culprit.the antifreeze (Preston) is approx. 
 8 years oldI will flush and replace it before Fall layup and see what 
 happens.  As I said earlier, it does not happen after launch and before 
 hauljust during the cold of winter.
 
 A few years back, one of the engine block antifreeze drain valves came loose 
 during the sailing  motoring season which was noticed when antifreeze 
 entered the bilgea little stress until the loose valve was detected.  
 Some times we get lucky!
 
 Rob Abbott
 AZURA
 CC 32 - 84
 Halifax, N.S.
 
 
 
 On 2015-05-24 3:33 PM, John Russo via CnC-List wrote:
 Check to insure your engine block drain valves are tight before winter
 storage. Second thought is weird but offered anyhow. Is antifreeze fresh?
 Could there be a blockage somewhere where the antifreeze is diluted and
 freezes which would expand and force the top stuff out somehow. I said it
 was a weird thought! I will discuss it with the mechanic at the yard who is
 pretty sharp and seen most things.
 
 John
 CC 32
 Arpeggio
 
 -Original Message-
 From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of robert
 via CnC-List
 Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2015 11:25 AM
 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
 Cc: robert
 Subject: Stus-List Antifreeze Mystery
 
 After the engine is winterized in the Fall, I place a plastic pan under
 it.not sure why but I do.  Every Spring, there is approximately a half a
 cup or 250 ml of antifreeze in the pan.
 
 I have looked everywhere for the source of this antifreeze but I can't find
 out where it is coming from.  The boat was launched 3 weeks ago, the engine
 has about 3 hours on it since then, the pan is still under the engine but
 there is no antifreeze in it.  And the antifreeze does not appear during the
 sailing season.
 
 I notice every Spring the level of the antifreeze in the 'overflow
 container' is down a bit and I refill to the 'FULL LEVEL' but that container
 is not leaking.  It's a mystery!
 
 Anybody experience this and/or have any ideas where this antifreeze could be
 originating from?
 
 Rob Abbott
 AZURA
 CC 32 - 84
 Halifax, N.S.
 
 
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