Re: Stus-List Edson Pedestal and Quadrant Lubrication

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

Everything you need, lubrication, cable tension, etc., is here:

https://edsonmarine.com/content/EB381SteeringGuide.pdf

Dennis C.

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Stus-List Edson Pedestal and Quadrant Lubrication

[Allan Hester via CnC-List]

CNC Listers,

That is excellent advice for adjusting the quadrant cables. Very appreciated. 

A followup question:

What are the guidlines for lubricating the Edson pedestal and cables?

Thank you.

Al H.
Pacific Ranger
C 35 Mk3
Vancouver, BC.
   

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Re: Stus-List Edson Pedestal install

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Spencer, I'd like to see your installation, thanks
 

Richard
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Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 
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DaveI just replaced my pedestal with an Edson Vision seriesthus I have 
two pedestal 'arms' ... one with a Edson single pod (that can be swiveled 180 
degrees to be viewed/controlled  from the helm or cockpit ) that I used with a 
ST60 auto pilot control head, the other had a garmin GPS MAP 478 .
Let me know if you are interested. ... contact me offline.  Does anybody need a 
replacement conventional pedestal...???
Spencer Johnson 
'84 LF 38 "Alegria "





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Re: Stus-List Edson Pedestal

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Hi,

Below is a post from last May on relining Edson brake pads.

-
Paul E.
1981 CC Landfall 38
S/V Johanna Rose
Carrabelle, FL


 Begin forwarded message:
 
 From: PME dre...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: Stus-List Edson Wheel Brake  Relining Brakes
 Date: May 22, 2014 at 1:40:06 PM EDT
 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
 
 Rob,
 
 I just removed the Edson brakes and steering cables/chain from my steering 
 system this past Sunday.   And it was near exactly as described by Graham.  
 The hardest part was removing the seized flathead screws.  With a little PB 
 Blaster, some perseverance, and a lot of hammer-twisting on an old hand 
 impact driver (like the one at  http://tinyurl.com/q823uja 
 http://tinyurl.com/q823uja ) I was able to get the screws out.   I will 
 surely use never-seize putting the screws back in.  This little impact driver 
 has saved me on several occasions.
 
 The removal of the brakes took just a few minutes at this point.  To add to 
 Graham's comments, there is a special-sized washer on the brake shaft toward 
 the knob side of the last brake pad.  This washer is critical in making the 
 brakes work.   It turns out this washer was missing on my brake system, and 
 that my brake pads are fine.  Try not to lose this washer or be very cautious 
 when installing a replacement.  I called Edson trying to buy the little 
 washer, but they insisted on sending a few washers out to me for free.  As 
 many have suggested, stuff rags down the pedestal, but I plan to tie dental 
 floss on this bugger to aid in its installation too. 
 
 As for brake replacements, the kits go for about $77 online(Defender).  I 
 have read online of folks relining these pads.   Edson even sells a relining 
 kit but it costs about the same ($80 Jamestown Distributers). 
 
 Following the success of other, I planned on relining the pads myself.  As it 
 looks I will only need the washer, but if the pads do need replacing in the 
 future I surely reline them myself.  It Looks like fun and for less than $10 
 one could reline several sets(help out a buddy).   For completeness I 
 included material list and Edson's instructions below.  
 
 
 
 
 Materials
   - McMaster-Carr  brake liner metal-free  3/16T   1-1/4W   
 6175K812$3.91/ft
   http://www.mcmaster.com/#brake-lining/=s2sqod 
 http://www.mcmaster.com/#brake-lining/=s2sqod
   - Loctite Black Max Adhesive (or epoxy)
 
 Brake Lining Replacement Instructions (from Edson EB355_689BrakeInstall.PDF)
   1. Remove old brake pads. Clean legs with solvent.
   2. Bond new pads to brake legs with generous amounts of
   supplied adhesive or two-part epoxy.
   3. Clamp brake legs around a pipe approximately 1 1/2 in
   diameter while the adhesive cures so that the new pads conform
   to the shape of the legs.
   4. After adhesive has cured, trim brake pads along edges of
   brake leges with a band saw or hack saw.
   5. Reinstall brake components as described inside and check
   operation before installing cotter pin.
   6. If brake does not clamp properly, check that washer has been
   installed between shaft shoulder and A743 starboard brake leg.
 
 
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Re: Stus-List Edson Pedestal

[Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List]

I have brake pad material left over from when I relined my wheel brake.

I'll happily share the left overs with listers. I can send a piece big
enough to do both brake pads for the cost of shipping. Email me off list.

Steve
Suhana, CC 32
Toronto


On Sat, May 30, 2015 at 9:48 AM, mike amirault via CnC-List 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

  Well, it doesn't take an expert to install it. Anyone with a reasonable
 mechanical aptitude should be able to do this in less than an hour.
 However, if the knurling on the brass gear is badly worn, the new brake
 pads will not help much.
 Good luck.

 Mike Amirault
 CC33 mkii  Lovely Cruise
 St Margarets Bay, NS

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Re: Stus-List Edson Pedestal

[Chuck S via CnC-List]

Edsonmarine.com now has videos on servicing their pedestals; removing the brake 
and others. 


Chuck 
Resolute 
1990 CC 34R 
Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md 

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To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: robert robertabb...@eastlink.ca, mike amirault amira...@eastlink.ca 
Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2015 8:38:43 PM 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Edson Pedestal 

I bought an Edson Brake Pad Repair Kit a few years back but have never had the 
nerve to install it. The Dansforth compass slips out of the binnacle easy 
enough, but after that, it gets a bit intimidating for me. 

What happens after the compass is removed? 

Rob Abbott 
AZURA 
CC 32 - 84 
Halifax, N.S. 

On 2015-05-31 3:17 PM, Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List wrote: 



I have brake pad material left over from when I relined my wheel brake. 

I'll happily share the left overs with listers. I can send a piece big enough 
to do both brake pads for the cost of shipping. Email me off list. 

Steve 
Suhana, CC 32 
Toronto 


On Sat, May 30, 2015 at 9:48 AM, mike amirault via CnC-List  
cnc-list@cnc-list.com  wrote: 

blockquote

Well, it doesn't take an expert to install it. Anyone with a reasonable 
mechanical aptitude should be able to do this in less than an hour. However, if 
the knurling on the brass gear is badly worn, the new brake pads will not help 
much. 
Good luck. 
Mike Amirault 
CC33 mkii Lovely Cruise 
St Margarets Bay, NS 

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Re: Stus-List Edson Pedestal

[Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List]

Rob, Bruno, have a look at the instructions here:
http://www.jamestowndistributors.com/userportal/pdfs/Edson/EB355_689BrakeInstall.PDF

The material was ordered from mcmaster carr. I used the recommended black
loctite. Can't now find the link or remember but I'm fairly certain I found
the instructions on this list.
More reading (including a link to the product page):
https://www.mail-archive.com/cnc-list@cnc-list.com/msg20988.html

Steve
Suhana, CC 32
Toronto




On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 9:33 PM, Chuck S via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com
 wrote:

 Edsonmarine.com now has videos on servicing their pedestals; removing the
 brake and others.


 Chuck
 Resolute
 1990 CC 34R
 Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md

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 *Cc: *robert robertabb...@eastlink.ca, mike amirault 
 amira...@eastlink.ca
 *Sent: *Sunday, May 31, 2015 8:38:43 PM
 *Subject: *Re: Stus-List Edson Pedestal

 I bought an Edson Brake Pad Repair Kit a few years back but have never had
 the nerve to install it.  The Dansforth compass slips out of the binnacle
 easy enough, but after that, it gets a bit intimidating for me.

 What happens after the compass is removed?

 Rob Abbott
 AZURA
 CC 32 - 84
 Halifax, N.S.

 On 2015-05-31 3:17 PM, Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List wrote:

 I have brake pad material left over from when I relined my wheel brake.

  I'll happily share the left overs with listers. I can send a piece big
 enough to do both brake pads for the cost of shipping. Email me off list.

  Steve
 Suhana, CC 32
 Toronto


 On Sat, May 30, 2015 at 9:48 AM, mike amirault via CnC-List 
 cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

  Well, it doesn't take an expert to install it. Anyone with a reasonable
 mechanical aptitude should be able to do this in less than an hour.
 However, if the knurling on the brass gear is badly worn, the new brake
 pads will not help much.
 Good luck.

 Mike Amirault
 CC33 mkii  Lovely Cruise
 St Margarets Bay, NS

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Re: Stus-List Edson Pedestal

[robert via CnC-List]

I bought an Edson Brake Pad Repair Kit a few years back but have never 
had the nerve to install it.  The Dansforth compass slips out of the 
binnacle easy enough, but after that, it gets a bit intimidating for me.


What happens after the compass is removed?

Rob Abbott
AZURA
CC 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.

On 2015-05-31 3:17 PM, Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List wrote:

I have brake pad material left over from when I relined my wheel brake.

I'll happily share the left overs with listers. I can send a piece big 
enough to do both brake pads for the cost of shipping. Email me off list.


Steve
Suhana, CC 32
Toronto


On Sat, May 30, 2015 at 9:48 AM, mike amirault via CnC-List 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:


Well, it doesn't take an expert to install it. Anyone with a
reasonable mechanical aptitude should be able to do this in less
than an hour. However, if the knurling on the brass gear is badly
worn, the new brake pads will not help much.
Good luck.
Mike Amirault
CC33 mkii  Lovely Cruise
St Margarets Bay, NS

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Re: Stus-List Edson Pedestal

[mike amirault via CnC-List]

Well, it doesn't take an expert to install it. Anyone with a reasonable 
mechanical aptitude should be able to do this in less than an hour. However, if 
the knurling on the brass gear is badly worn, the new brake pads will not help 
much. 
Good luck.

Mike Amirault
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Stus-List Edson Pedestal

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Someone posted on this topic a while ago. If anyone still has it I would 
appreciate a copy or a reference
 Thanks, posters.

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Subject: Re: Stus-List AirBnB boat

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On 5/28/2015 6:08 PM, Sam Salter via CnC-List wrote:
 A home got trashed here in Calgary a few weeks ago.
 I think it was around $200K in damages. (AirBnB came up good for it though!)

 sam :-)


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Re: Stus-List Edson Pedestal

[Chuck S via CnC-List]

Hi John, 
Not sure of your problem? I recently had to replace my idler plate on my 1990 
34/36. I have pics and much advice on that process. 

Edson has an extensive website with technical support: 


TECHNICAL SUPPORT 
If you require technical support or information on an Edson products, please 
visit our tech support web page or contact Edson: 
By Email: i...@edsonintl.com 
By Phone: (508) 995-9711 


Chuck 
Resolute 
1990 CC 34R 
Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md 

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Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 8:21:09 PM 
Subject: Stus-List Edson Pedestal 

Someone posted on this topic a while ago. If anyone still has it I would 
appreciate a copy or a reference 
Thanks, posters. 

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 sam :-) 
 

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Re: Stus-List Edson pedestal - taking off the compass

[Sébastien Lemieux]

Hello Marek,

  The original compass on mine appeared to have been modified by the previous 
owner.  It was held in place by screws on the upper part of the chrome collar 
holding the compass.  There was screw covers need the bottom part of the collar 
that were not covering anything in my case, they could look a bit like rivet 
but are easy to pop out using a thin blade, you might find your screws there.

  This spring, I installed a new compass and the attachment is now as Jonathan 
described (under the light cover of the compass).

  There is not much adjustment to be made that the pedestal end of the 
transmission cable on my boat.  Below is a link of what I found when I first 
opened up the pedestal.  In mine, I have two position to attach the 
transmission cable and it was already attached the the position with the most 
travel.  My lever also hits the SS guard in forward position but I the 
transmission is solidly engaged at that point.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/60uqvkuvcc3yvir/DSC_0019.jpg

Hope this helps,

Sébastien Lemieux
Merlot X - CC 30 mk2 1987
Lake Champlain


On 2013-08-28, at 8:19 , Marek Dziedzic dziedzi...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Hi,
  
 I bet that this topic has been discussed, but I would appreciate some hints.
  
 I have a problem with the transmission lever/cable - the transmission barely 
 engages (and sometimes does not), when I switch to forward - the lever hits 
 the binnacle. The easy option would be to make adjustments at the 
 transmission end; however, I am at the end of the adjustments.
  
 I looked, briefly, at removing the compass, but I could not find any bolts or 
 other fasteners that hold it to the pedestal.
  
 I would appreciate any hints on how to remove the compass, so that I could 
 get into the belly of the pedestal and adjust the  transmission cable.
  
 thanks
  
 Marek Dziedzic
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Re: Stus-List Edson pedestal - taking off the compass

[Edd Schillay]

Mark,

On mine, there are two plastic grey panels that are snapped in place 
that cover the screws. Remove those and you'll be able to get the cover off and 
then you'll have access to get the whole compass off. 



All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Starship Enterprise
CC 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
City Island, NY 
Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log Website

On Aug 28, 2013, at 8:19 AM, Marek Dziedzic dziedzi...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Hi,
  
 I bet that this topic has been discussed, but I would appreciate some hints.
  
 I have a problem with the transmission lever/cable - the transmission barely 
 engages (and sometimes does not), when I switch to forward - the lever hits 
 the binnacle. The easy option would be to make adjustments at the 
 transmission end; however, I am at the end of the adjustments.
  
 I looked, briefly, at removing the compass, but I could not find any bolts or 
 other fasteners that hold it to the pedestal.
  
 I would appreciate any hints on how to remove the compass, so that I could 
 get into the belly of the pedestal and adjust the transmission cable.
  
 thanks
  
 Marek Dziedzic
 in Ottawa
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Re: Stus-List Edson pedestal - taking off the compass

[Joel Aronson]

The cable is also held in place by a clamp with an acorn nut on the aft
side of the pedestal about knee high.  I'm told it is a PIA to get the new
cable in the clamp.


On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 10:00 AM, Sébastien Lemieux
s.lemi...@umontreal.cawrote:

 Hello Marek,

   The original compass on mine appeared to have been modified by the
 previous owner.  It was held in place by screws on the upper part of the
 chrome collar holding the compass.  There was screw covers need the bottom
 part of the collar that were not covering anything in my case, they could
 look a bit like rivet but are easy to pop out using a thin blade, you might
 find your screws there.

   This spring, I installed a new compass and the attachment is now as
 Jonathan described (under the light cover of the compass).

   There is not much adjustment to be made that the pedestal end of the
 transmission cable on my boat.  Below is a link of what I found when I
 first opened up the pedestal.  In mine, I have two position to attach the
 transmission cable and it was already attached the the position with the
 most travel.  My lever also hits the SS guard in forward position but I the
 transmission is solidly engaged at that point.

 https://www.dropbox.com/s/60uqvkuvcc3yvir/DSC_0019.jpg

 Hope this helps,

 Sébastien Lemieux
 Merlot X - CC 30 mk2 1987
 Lake Champlain


 On 2013-08-28, at 8:19 , Marek Dziedzic dziedzi...@hotmail.com wrote:

  Hi,

 I bet that this topic has been discussed, but I would appreciate some
 hints.

 I have a problem with the transmission lever/cable - the transmission
 barely engages (and sometimes does not), when I switch to forward - the
 lever hits the binnacle. The easy option would be to make adjustments at
 the transmission end; however, I am at the end of the adjustments.

 I looked, briefly, at removing the compass, but I could not find any bolts
 or other fasteners that hold it to the pedestal.

 I would appreciate any hints on how to remove the compass, so that I could
 get into the belly of the pedestal and adjust the transmission cable.

 thanks

 Marek Dziedzic
 in Ottawa
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Re: Stus-List Edson pedestal - taking off the compass

[Marek Dziedzic]

Bonjour Sébastien,

There should be some adjustment available on the brass things attached to the 
levers. A picture I have from the installation manual shows that the other end 
is a threaded rod that threads into the attachment at the end of the 
transmission cable. I was hoping that I can make the adjustment there.

Your picture reveals one more thing, though - that even if there is some 
adjustment room on that rod, there is no way to do it without first dismantling 
pretty much everything around (short of a very small dwarf repelling into the 
pedestal).

I have a couple of somethings that might look like a screw cover. I will try 
popping them out and see.

Btw. my current approach is that if I cannot reasonably easily adjust the cable 
on the pedestal side, I will try to extend the thread on the transmission end 
(by using a die and cutting the thread a few mm longer). This should last till 
the end of the season when I can try a frontal attack, potentially including 
replacing the cable.

thanks

Marek 

Original message below:

Hello Marek,

  The original compass on mine appeared to have been modified by the previous 
owner.  It was held in place by screws on the upper part of the chrome collar 
holding the compass.  There was screw covers need the bottom part of the collar 
that were not covering anything in my case, they could look a bit like rivet 
but are easy to pop out using a thin blade, you might find your screws there.

  This spring, I installed a new compass and the attachment is now as Jonathan 
described (under the light cover of the compass).

  There is not much adjustment to be made that the pedestal end of the 
transmission cable on my boat.  Below is a link of what I found when I first 
opened up the pedestal.  In mine, I have two position to attach the 
transmission cable and it was already attached the the position with the most 
travel.  My lever also hits the SS guard in forward position but I the 
transmission is solidly engaged at that point.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/60uqvkuvcc3yvir/DSC_0019.jpg

Hope this helps,

S?bastien Lemieux
Merlot X - CC 30 mk2 1987
Lake Champlain

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Stus-List Edson Pedestal

[Kim Brown]

I have been shamed into checking and lubing the steering by the crowd.
Bottom end looks fine- no meat hooks tension seems about right etc.  However
I can't get the machine screws holding the binnacle loose. Upon removing the
compass, there are four large slotted screws (with plastic/nylon isolating
washers under their heads. They head down through the bottom of the nice
chrome can that holds the compass.  Next layer of this wedding cake is the
throttle/shift piece, then a thin slice for the pedestal guard then the
actual steering pedestal.  Does any one know if these screws  actually
thread into the throttle/shift layer or just pass through all the way
through to steering pedestal itself.  Don't see any obvious way to apply
PBBlaster, heat or other means of persuasion.  If I just slice the heads off
am I going to have enough of a stub to work with or am I likely to have to
drill them out?  Guess I could leave well enough alone but that is just
asking for failure at an inopportune time
Kim Brown
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Re: Stus-List Edson Pedestal

[djhaug...@juno.com]

Hi Kim,

I had a failure of my edson system last year.  However, It was no fault of the 
edson equipment.  It was more the fault of the installation.

I did end up replacing the chain and cable and had some difficulty getting 
those bolts out.  They are a specially coated bolt available only from edson.

I was able to get a couple of them out with a screw driver but one or two I got 
out with a small pair of visegrips.  It was a tedious pain but, it worked.  I 
then replaced them with new.  As I recall they thread right into the pedestal.  
The special coating is supposed to keep them from seizing up.  Works good right?

Unless, of course, someone replaced them at some point with a standard SS bolt, 
you should be able to get them moving with some lubricant and some effort.  
IIRC the bolts from edson are a phillips, pan head/machine head bolt.

Edson is still in business here in New Bedford, MA and are very helpful and 
willing to spend time on the phone with you to try and help.

Danny
Lolita
1973 Viking 33
Westport Point, MA


-- Original Message --
From: Kim Brown kimcbr...@comcast.net
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Subject: Stus-List Edson Pedestal
Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 10:08:09 -0400

I have been shamed into checking and lubing the steering by the crowd.
Bottom end looks fine- no meat hooks tension seems about right etc.  However
I can't get the machine screws holding the binnacle loose. Upon removing the
compass, there are four large slotted screws (with plastic/nylon isolating
washers under their heads. They head down through the bottom of the nice
chrome can that holds the compass.  Next layer of this wedding cake is the
throttle/shift piece, then a thin slice for the pedestal guard then the
actual steering pedestal.  Does any one know if these screws  actually
thread into the throttle/shift layer or just pass through all the way
through to steering pedestal itself.  Don't see any obvious way to apply
PBBlaster, heat or other means of persuasion.  If I just slice the heads off
am I going to have enough of a stub to work with or am I likely to have to
drill them out?  Guess I could leave well enough alone but that is just
asking for failure at an inopportune time
Kim Brown
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Re: Stus-List Edson Pedestal

[Joel Aronson]

Kim,

There is a diagram here:
http://www.edsonmarine.com/support/PDFs/planning/EB381SteeringGuide.pdf

I don't think the screws go all the way to the pedestal. but I could be
wrong.

Joel
35/3
Annapolis


On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 10:08 AM, Kim Brown kimcbr...@comcast.net wrote:

 I have been shamed into checking and lubing the steering by the crowd.
 Bottom end looks fine- no meat hooks tension seems about right etc.
  However
 I can't get the machine screws holding the binnacle loose. Upon removing
 the
 compass, there are four large slotted screws (with plastic/nylon isolating
 washers under their heads. They head down through the bottom of the nice
 chrome can that holds the compass.  Next layer of this wedding cake is the
 throttle/shift piece, then a thin slice for the pedestal guard then the
 actual steering pedestal.  Does any one know if these screws  actually
 thread into the throttle/shift layer or just pass through all the way
 through to steering pedestal itself.  Don't see any obvious way to apply
 PBBlaster, heat or other means of persuasion.  If I just slice the heads
 off
 am I going to have enough of a stub to work with or am I likely to have to
 drill them out?  Guess I could leave well enough alone but that is just
 asking for failure at an inopportune time
 Kim Brown
 Trust Me!!! 35-3



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Re: Stus-List Edson Pedestal

[djhaug...@juno.com]

Hi Joel, Those diagrams are hard to read.  I studied them pretty closely when 
figuring out my repair plan. As I recall, there is the compass, which screws 
into what seems to be a spacer, then you have the throttle/tranny 
lever/linkage assembly and below that there is the top of the pedestal which is 
kind of funnel shaped. So, the bolts go through the bottom flange of the 
spacer/compass housing, through the throttle/tranny linkage assemble and screw 
directly into the funnel shaped piece at the top of the pedestal.  I don't 
recall struggling with holding back on any nuts when using the vicegrips to 
remove the bolts.  That is why I believe they screw right into the top of the 
pedestal.  The bolts are about 3 1/2 long to get them through all the parts. 
Here is a link to a sketch I put together from memory but, I'm pretty sure this 
is how it goes. http://sdrv.ms/XUoFbu

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From: Joel Aronson joel.aron...@gmail.com
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Edson Pedestal
Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 10:37:17 -0400


Kim, There is a diagram 
here:#65533;http://www.edsonmarine.com/support/PDFs/planning/EB381SteeringGuide.pdf
 I don't think the screws go all the way to the pedestal. but I could be wrong. 
Joel35/3Annapolis

On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 10:08 AM, Kim Brown kimcbr...@comcast.net wrote:
I have been shamed into checking and lubing the steering by the crowd.
 Bottom end looks fine- no meat hooks tension seems about right etc. 
#65533;However
 I can't get the machine screws holding the binnacle loose. Upon removing the
 compass, there are four large slotted screws (with plastic/nylon isolating
 washers under their heads. They head down through the bottom of the nice
 chrome can that holds the compass. #65533;Next layer of this wedding cake is 
the
 throttle/shift piece, then a thin slice for the pedestal guard then the
 actual steering pedestal. #65533;Does any one know if these screws 
#65533;actually
 thread into the throttle/shift layer or just pass through all the way
 through to steering pedestal itself. #65533;Don't see any obvious way to apply
 PBBlaster, heat or other means of persuasion. #65533;If I just slice the 
heads off
 am I going to have enough of a stub to work with or am I likely to have to
 drill them out? #65533;Guess I could leave well enough alone but that is just
 asking for failure at an inopportune time
 Kim Brown
 Trust Me!!! 35-3
 
 
 
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Re: Stus-List Edson Pedestal

[John Russo]

Kim,

If I understand your set up the screws are long and go directly into
pedestal and do not hold anything else. Keep dribbling some liquid wrench
down screws and/or squirt PB Blaster with extender tube on screw/pedestal
interface through new or any hole you find like wires for compass light.
After soaking overnight try tapping on screw driver with hammer while
turning or use small impact wrench. Grinding heads of screws will be
difficult due to tool access. Good luck!

John
Arpeggio
CC 32 

-Original Message-
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Kim Brown
Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 10:08 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List Edson Pedestal

I have been shamed into checking and lubing the steering by the crowd.
Bottom end looks fine- no meat hooks tension seems about right etc.  However
I can't get the machine screws holding the binnacle loose. Upon removing the
compass, there are four large slotted screws (with plastic/nylon isolating
washers under their heads. They head down through the bottom of the nice
chrome can that holds the compass.  Next layer of this wedding cake is the
throttle/shift piece, then a thin slice for the pedestal guard then the
actual steering pedestal.  Does any one know if these screws  actually
thread into the throttle/shift layer or just pass through all the way
through to steering pedestal itself.  Don't see any obvious way to apply
PBBlaster, heat or other means of persuasion.  If I just slice the heads off
am I going to have enough of a stub to work with or am I likely to have to
drill them out?  Guess I could leave well enough alone but that is just
asking for failure at an inopportune time
Kim Brown
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Re: Stus-List Edson Pedestal

[Gary Nylander]

I used a hammer drive screwdriver and heat to the area under the screws - it 
was a b...h.


Gary
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Subject: Stus-List Edson Pedestal



I have been shamed into checking and lubing the steering by the crowd.
Bottom end looks fine- no meat hooks tension seems about right etc. 
However
I can't get the machine screws holding the binnacle loose. Upon removing 
the

compass, there are four large slotted screws (with plastic/nylon isolating
washers under their heads. They head down through the bottom of the nice
chrome can that holds the compass.  Next layer of this wedding cake is the
throttle/shift piece, then a thin slice for the pedestal guard then the
actual steering pedestal.  Does any one know if these screws  actually
thread into the throttle/shift layer or just pass through all the way
through to steering pedestal itself.  Don't see any obvious way to apply
PBBlaster, heat or other means of persuasion.  If I just slice the heads 
off

am I going to have enough of a stub to work with or am I likely to have to
drill them out?  Guess I could leave well enough alone but that is just
asking for failure at an inopportune time
Kim Brown
Trust Me!!! 35-3



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