Re: Stus-List Head Problems

[Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List]

Hello all,
I finally found where to get the Raritan "Lower Base Assembly".  The price has 
gone up, but it is still substantially lower than buying the full unit from 
Defender.  Here's the link:  Raritan LBA Upgrade for almost any toilet

  
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(847) 404-5092 (mobile)
bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net

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Re: Stus-List Head Problems

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

Glad you're all pumped up!  :)

Dennis C.

On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 5:41 AM Gary Russell via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Thank you for all the information on heads.  My *head *is spinning
> reading all about *heads*.I think I'm in brain overload, but I'm getting
> a *head *of it.  Thanks for the nutritional help as well (Edd).  I'm
> *head*ed for the *head *now.
>
>
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Re: Stus-List Head Problems

[Gary Russell via CnC-List]

Thank you for all the information on heads.  My *head *is spinning reading
all about *heads*.I think I'm in brain overload, but I'm getting a *head *of
it.  Thanks for the nutritional help as well (Edd).  I'm *head*ed for the *head
*now.

Gary
S/V Kaylarah

~~~_/)~~


On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 11:15 AM, Gary Russell via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I just had the electric pump on my Jabsco head fail again.  The last pump
> lasted less than two years.  At $230 / pump I need another solution.  This
> particular head is VERY loud.  Does anyone have a better and recommendation
> for a quieter electric head?
>
> Gary
> S/V Kaylarah
> '90 C 37+
> East Greenwich, RI, USA
> ~~~_/)~~
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Re: Stus-List Head Problems

[Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List]

And make sure you lubricate the pump regularly (6-12 month) with a decent 
Teflon grease (Superlube).

Marek

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From: Dennis C. via CnC-List<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2018 18:26
To: CnClist<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Cc: Dennis C.<mailto:capt...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Stus-List Head Problems

I've had a Jabsco Twist & Lock on Touche' since Jabsco introduced them.  Couple 
weeks ago I saw a little back leakage.  I keep a spare joker valve on board.  5 
minutes to swap it out.  Took the scaled up one to the house.  Soaked it in 
vinegar for 2 days then wiped the scale off.  It's now the spare.

After working in the marine repair business for 15 years and 
repairing/rebuilding more heads than I care to remember, my opinion is the 
Raritan PHII is the best head and the Jabsco Twist and Lock a close second.

Remember, when repairing a head, it's cheaper (timewise), easier and better to 
replace the pump assembly than to install a rebuild kit.

Excess content trimmed.

Dennis C.



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Stus-List Head Problems

[Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List]

We’ve been out for a few weeks now on our summer cruise and our Raritan PHII 
stopped allowing incoming raw water into the bowl.  I got online and downloaded 
the exploded drawings and since the waste a.m. side was working oki felt 
confident that it was not the primary diaphragm since it handle water in and 
waste out.  The through hull wax clear and there was water getting to the pump. 
So, it looked like the ball valve was the issue. I took it apart and it was 
fine.

Feeling a fit defeated a kind of gave up.  A bowl of fresh water was all it 
needed to flush.  No biggie.  When I got to the Rendezvous and talked about it 
with a few Daves, I realized that it could also be the outgoing ball valve not 
allowing the pump to create a vacuum to draw the water into it.

I got into the exit ball valve and it appears that over time the call had 
gotten imbedded in the spring and the spring was preventing the valve from 
sealing.  I flipped the spring over and it now is good as new!

Other issues have not gone as well... but that’s another story.

Hope everyone is enjoying summer and their C

Tom B

Typoed from my iPhone

Tom Buscaglia
Alera 1990 C 37+/40
Vashon Island WA
O 206.463.9200
C 305.409.3660
Skype - thombusc



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> 
> 
> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2018 17:25:06 -0500
> From: "Dennis C." 
> To: CnClist 
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Head Problems
> Message-ID:
>
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> 
> I've had a Jabsco Twist & Lock on Touche' since Jabsco introduced them.
> Couple weeks ago I saw a little back leakage.  I keep a spare joker valve
> on board.  5 minutes to swap it out.  Took the scaled up one to the house.
> Soaked it in vinegar for 2 days then wiped the scale off.  It's now the
> spare.
> 
> After working in the marine repair business for 15 years and
> repairing/rebuilding more heads than I care to remember, my opinion is the
> Raritan PHII is the best head and the Jabsco Twist and Lock a close second.
> 
> Remember, when repairing a head, it's cheaper (timewise), easier and better
> to replace the pump assembly than to install a rebuild kit.
> 
> Excess content trimmed.
> 
> Dennis C.


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Stus-List Head Problems

[Howard and Skippy via CnC-List]

I'd like to second the plug for the Raritan PH II. I've put one in the 
last 2 boats I'v owned (dating from 1990). The one in Knot Again is as 
much of a good working unit as the on eI put in my previous boat in 
1990. NO service issues and very reliable.

Howard Paul
Knot Again 35 - 3
Raritan Bay New Jersey

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Re: Stus-List Head Problems

[G Collins via CnC-List]

Those are pretty good optics, but once while on a business trip to Toronto I 
bought a Jabsco toilet at the boat show (smoking deal!) and brought it back to 
Halifax as checked luggage.  The woman running the oversized bag x-ray machine 
laughed so hard I thought she was going to fall off her chair, and the woman I 
was travelling with refused to walk any closer than 10 feet away from me.  Got 
some good comments when it came out on the baggage conveyor...

Graham Collins
Secret Plans
C 35-III #11

On 2018-08-15 1:20 PM, Ainslie via CnC-List wrote:
I want to put in a plug for the new Jabsco Twist-n-Lock manual head I installed 
this year. After 3 years of “encore” reappearances of tank contents under way, 
and no improvement by replacing joker valves several times a season, I was 
ready to try any solution under a million dollars! Happily, the Twist-n-Lock 
was well under $200 at the Boat Show (not to mention the priceless optics of my 
wife and I lugging a toilet around for all to see).

We just completed an 800 nm trip around Lake Huron and Georgian Bay, and I can 
report there was not one unseemly encore, no enduring smell in the head, and no 
aromas in the captain’s quarters either. What a difference this made for 
everyone aboard.

Jason
S/V Spirit
’84 C 35 Mk III
Bayfield, ON
~~~_/)~~

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Re: Stus-List Head Problems

[Doug Mountjoy via CnC-List]

Removed both of the Jabsco heads on Rebecca Leah and replaced with manual 
Raritan units. Had a Raritan on my last boat, went 10 years living aboard with 
1 kit early on.


Doug Mountjoy Rebecca Leah LF39 Port Orchard YC, WA.


 Original message From: robert via CnC-List 
 Date: 8/15/18  15:54  (GMT-08:00) To: 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: robert  Subject: Stus-List 
Head Problems 
Last season, my original Jabsco head pump started leaking sea water back 
into the head on a port tackno big deal but a 'pebble in my 
shoe'priced a repair kit or a new Jabsco Twist & Lock Pump.four 
(4) screws/bolts and a few hoses to complete the change .why rebuild 
when a whole new and better pump costs about $10 more and is way easier 
to install.

Rob Abbott
AZURA
C 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.


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Stus-List Head Problems

[robert via CnC-List]

Last season, my original Jabsco head pump started leaking sea water back 
into the head on a port tackno big deal but a 'pebble in my 
shoe'priced a repair kit or a new Jabsco Twist & Lock Pump.four 
(4) screws/bolts and a few hoses to complete the change .why rebuild 
when a whole new and better pump costs about $10 more and is way easier 
to install.


Rob Abbott
AZURA
C 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.


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Re: Stus-List Head Problems

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

I've had a Jabsco Twist & Lock on Touche' since Jabsco introduced them.
Couple weeks ago I saw a little back leakage.  I keep a spare joker valve
on board.  5 minutes to swap it out.  Took the scaled up one to the house.
Soaked it in vinegar for 2 days then wiped the scale off.  It's now the
spare.

After working in the marine repair business for 15 years and
repairing/rebuilding more heads than I care to remember, my opinion is the
Raritan PHII is the best head and the Jabsco Twist and Lock a close second.

Remember, when repairing a head, it's cheaper (timewise), easier and better
to replace the pump assembly than to install a rebuild kit.

Excess content trimmed.

Dennis C.


On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 11:21 AM Ainslie via CnC-List 
wrote:

> I want to put in a plug for the new Jabsco Twist-n-Lock manual head I
> installed this year. After 3 years of “encore” reappearances of tank
> contents under way, and no improvement by replacing joker valves several
> times a season, I was ready to try any solution under a million dollars!
> Happily, the Twist-n-Lock was well under $200 at the Boat Show (not to
> mention the priceless optics of my wife and I lugging a toilet around for
> all to see).
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: Stus-List Head Problems

[Ainslie via CnC-List]

I want to put in a plug for the new Jabsco Twist-n-Lock manual head I
installed this year. After 3 years of "encore" reappearances of tank
contents under way, and no improvement by replacing joker valves several
times a season, I was ready to try any solution under a million dollars!
Happily, the Twist-n-Lock was well under $200 at the Boat Show (not to
mention the priceless optics of my wife and I lugging a toilet around for
all to see).

 

We just completed an 800 nm trip around Lake Huron and Georgian Bay, and I
can report there was not one unseemly encore, no enduring smell in the head,
and no aromas in the captain's quarters either. What a difference this made
for everyone aboard.

 

Jason

S/V Spirit

'84 C 35 Mk III

Bayfield, ON

~~~_/)~~

 


 
 

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Re: Stus-List Head Problems

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

Some people love 'em and some people hate' em but I love my vacu-flush.  It
will suck golf balls through 50 feet of garden hose and only use 1 pint of
freshwater.  The PO installed mine and raved about how great it is during
the sale 6 years ago.  I've only replaced a few parts as periodic
maintenance to avoid catastrophic failure and that was about 4 years ago.

YMMV

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C 37+
Solomons, MD


On Wed, Aug 15, 2018, 11:16 AM Gary Russell via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I just had the electric pump on my Jabsco head fail again.  The last pump
> lasted less than two years.  At $230 / pump I need another solution.  This
> particular head is VERY loud.  Does anyone have a better and recommendation
> for a quieter electric head?
>
> Gary
> S/V Kaylarah
> '90 C 37+
> East Greenwich, RI, USA
> ~~~_/)~~
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Re: Stus-List Head Problems

[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

When I was in the boat fixing business, nothing – repeat nothing – was more 
dreaded than an “electric head broke” call!

Joe
Coquina

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Bruce 
Whitmore via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2018 11:27 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Bruce Whitmore
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Stus-List Head Problems

Does it HAVE to be electric?

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Re: Stus-List Head Problems

[Dreuge via CnC-List]

Gary,

A good source of information is Practical Sailor.

https://www.practical-sailor.com/issues/37_3/features/Electric-Flush-Marine-Toilets_10144-1.html

-
Paul E.
1981 C Landfall 38 
S/V Johanna Rose
Fort Walton Beach, FL

http://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/

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Re: Stus-List Head Problems

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

Damn, Gary — you must be dropping some industrial-size waste in there! :-)

I’ve had the same electric Jabsco pump on my head since 2006 and no issues. It 
is noisy though. 

Over the winter, I’m going to replace the entire head with a Jabsco Lite Flush 
Electric — see: 
https://www.jabscoshop.com/marine/marine-toilets/toilets/electric-toilets/58500-1012-lite-flush-12v-with-panel.htm
 

 

It’s quiet, looks great, has a slow-close lid and, best of all, uses the same 
mounting as the existing Jabsco head. The earlier versions of the toilet had 
some issues with the pumps and power, but they have fixed that issue. 

In the meantime, maybe add some prune juice to your diet? 

All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Starship Enterprise
C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
City Island, NY 
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On Aug 15, 2018, at 11:15 AM, Gary Russell via CnC-List  
wrote:

I just had the electric pump on my Jabsco head fail again.  The last pump 
lasted less than two years.  At $230 / pump I need another solution.  This 
particular head is VERY loud.  Does anyone have a better and recommendation for 
a quieter electric head?

Gary
S/V Kaylarah
'90 C 37+
East Greenwich, RI, USA
~~~_/)~~

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Re: Stus-List Head Problems

[Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List]

Does it HAVE to be electric?  On our last boat, we converted the hand pump base 
from Jabsco to Raritan.  They can be difficult to find, but Raritan makes a 
pump-only base/kit that uses the existing bowl, and (at least at the time) was 
about half the price of a new one, and was less than $200.  The reason I raise 
this is the Raritan pump seemed much more efficient at flushing and overall did 
a much better job.
My unit in Chicago lasted more that 5 years before it needed an overhaul, and 
that was a pretty easy process.  By comparison, our Jabsco that is in our new 
(to us) 1994 C 37/40+ is just not very good at getting the effluent up and 
over the top of the loop in the hose.
As a result I will convert our Jabsco to a Raritan the next time I really need 
an overhaul.
Now if I could only figure out where I got the base without the bowl...  I know 
that it was originally recommended by Peggy Hall the Headmistress. Bruce 
Whitmore

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Stus-List Head Problems

[Gary Russell via CnC-List]

I just had the electric pump on my Jabsco head fail again.  The last pump
lasted less than two years.  At $230 / pump I need another solution.  This
particular head is VERY loud.  Does anyone have a better and recommendation
for a quieter electric head?

Gary
S/V Kaylarah
'90 C 37+
East Greenwich, RI, USA
~~~_/)~~
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