Stus-List Re: C 35 MK 1 bow water tank

[Matt Wolford via CnC-List]

The tank on my 34 was a holding tank; Ronco B486

 

Ronco has a variety of different shaped tanks.  It is time-consuming to look at 
them all, however.  It helps to have a size range, which narrows the search 
considerably.

 

Matt 

 

From: Dennis C. via CnC-List  
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2023 1:29 PM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Dennis C. 
Subject: Stus-List Re: C 35 MK 1 bow water tank

 

Joe,

 

Touche' does not have a tank in the bow.  That area is pretty much open with no 
structure forward of the V-Berth step other than the anchor locker bulkhead.  
Suspect the tank is not structural.

 

Touche's water tank was under the aft seat of the dinette forward of the half 
bulkhead.  It may have been similar to your tank.  It was fiberglass with a 
riveted on top.  Lots of rivets.

 

I replaced it with a 26 gallon rectangular Plastimo flexible tank in the same 
location.  Very pleased.  Easy to remove it every spring and clean it on the 
dock.

 

You have often espoused flexible tank usage in aircraft.  Would you consider a 
triangular flexible tank in the bow?  A sistership here in my marina has a 
flexible wastewater tank in that location.

--

Dennis C.

Touche' 35-1 #83

Mandeville, LA

 

On Tue, Oct 10, 2023 at 9:39 AM Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

Anyone else have a water tank in the bow?

Mine is leaking, the bolts through the side of it leak and the wood that holds 
the internal baffle that the bolts are there for is coming apart.

Now I need to get the 120 or so bolts off the top to fix it.

 

Joe

Coquina

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Stus-List Re: C 35 MK 1 bow water tank

[Matt Wolford via CnC-List]

My 34 had a triangular plastic tank in the bow, which I replaced.  Although it 
was an unusual shape, Ronco had a nearly perfect replacement.

 

https://ronco-plastics.com/product-category/boat-tanks/

 

 

 

From: Dennis C. via CnC-List  
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2023 1:29 PM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Dennis C. 
Subject: Stus-List Re: C 35 MK 1 bow water tank

 

Joe,

 

Touche' does not have a tank in the bow.  That area is pretty much open with no 
structure forward of the V-Berth step other than the anchor locker bulkhead.  
Suspect the tank is not structural.

 

Touche's water tank was under the aft seat of the dinette forward of the half 
bulkhead.  It may have been similar to your tank.  It was fiberglass with a 
riveted on top.  Lots of rivets.

 

I replaced it with a 26 gallon rectangular Plastimo flexible tank in the same 
location.  Very pleased.  Easy to remove it every spring and clean it on the 
dock.

 

You have often espoused flexible tank usage in aircraft.  Would you consider a 
triangular flexible tank in the bow?  A sistership here in my marina has a 
flexible wastewater tank in that location.

--

Dennis C.

Touche' 35-1 #83

Mandeville, LA

 

On Tue, Oct 10, 2023 at 9:39 AM Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

Anyone else have a water tank in the bow?

Mine is leaking, the bolts through the side of it leak and the wood that holds 
the internal baffle that the bolts are there for is coming apart.

Now I need to get the 120 or so bolts off the top to fix it.

 

Joe

Coquina

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Stus-List Re: C 35 MK 1 bow water tank

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

Joe,

Touche' does not have a tank in the bow.  That area is pretty much open
with no structure forward of the V-Berth step other than the anchor locker
bulkhead.  Suspect the tank is not structural.

Touche's water tank was under the aft seat of the dinette forward of the
half bulkhead.  It may have been similar to your tank.  It was fiberglass
with a riveted on top.  Lots of rivets.

I replaced it with a 26 gallon rectangular Plastimo flexible tank in the
same location.  Very pleased.  Easy to remove it every spring and clean it
on the dock.

You have often espoused flexible tank usage in aircraft.  Would you
consider a triangular flexible tank in the bow?  A sistership here in my
marina has a flexible wastewater tank in that location.
--
Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Tue, Oct 10, 2023 at 9:39 AM Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Anyone else have a water tank in the bow?
>
> Mine is leaking, the bolts through the side of it leak and the wood that
> holds the internal baffle that the bolts are there for is coming apart.
>
> Now I need to get the 120 or so bolts off the top to fix it.
>
>
>
> Joe
>
> Coquina
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Stus-List Re: C 35 MK 1 bow water tank

[Chris Riedinger via CnC-List]

We have a tank in the bow of our 37+. Not looking forward to replacing that
one 

On Tue, Oct 10, 2023, 7:39 AM Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Anyone else have a water tank in the bow?
>
> Mine is leaking, the bolts through the side of it leak and the wood that
> holds the internal baffle that the bolts are there for is coming apart.
>
> Now I need to get the 120 or so bolts off the top to fix it.
>
>
>
> Joe
>
> Coquina
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Stus-List Re: C 35 MK 1 bow water tank

[Richard Bush via CnC-List]

Joe, what material is your tank? Most tanks I've seen are one piece molded 
plastic or fiberglass; if it's aluminum, it might be easier to pull it out and 
replace with a new plastic one...? 

Richard
1985 C 37 CB: Ohio River, Mile 584

Richard N. Bush Law Offices2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite NineLouisville, 
Kentucky 40220(502) 584-7255
 

On Tuesday, October 10, 2023 at 10:39:23 AM EDT, Della Barba, Joe via 
CnC-List  wrote:  
 
  
Anyone else have a water tank in the bow?
 
Mine is leaking, the bolts through the side of it leak and the wood that holds 
the internal baffle that the bolts are there for is coming apart.
 
Now I need to get the 120 or so bolts off the top to fix it.
 
  
 
Joe
 
Coquina
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Stus-List Re: C 35 MK 1 bow water tank

[Doug Mountjoy via CnC-List]

Hi Joe,
It sounds like your tank is an integral part of the hull. Both my LF38 &
LF39 and my Sabre have plastic tanks in the bow. When I bought the 38
someone had put in a bladder tank. O removed it and put in a plastic tank.
Not horribly difficult.


Douglas Mountjoy
1988 LF 39
Mexico at large
1984 Sabre 34
Port Orchard, WA


On Tue, Oct 10, 2023, 08:39 Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Anyone else have a water tank in the bow?
>
> Mine is leaking, the bolts through the side of it leak and the wood that
> holds the internal baffle that the bolts are there for is coming apart.
>
> Now I need to get the 120 or so bolts off the top to fix it.
>
>
>
> Joe
>
> Coquina
> Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and
> help me pay the associated bills.  Make a contribution at:
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Stus-List Re: C 35 Mk 1

[dwight veinot via CnC-List]

True for the 35 mkii as well

On Tue, Jan 26, 2021 at 9:24 AM Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> My boat has 3 bilge pumps. I have electric pumps at the aft end of the
> bilge and in the sump. The manual pump also runs to the sump. The get a 35
> totally dry you would need about 6 bilge pumps at least, the bilge does not
> flow evenly to either end.
>
> Offshore in rough conditions you pay for the speedy hull design, the low
> point is frequently not the bilge at all and keeping water out of the
> lockers and so on is a nuisance.
>
>
>
> Joe
>
> Coquina
>
> C 35 MK I
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Stus-List Re: C 35 Mk 1

[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

My boat has 3 bilge pumps. I have electric pumps at the aft end of the bilge 
and in the sump. The manual pump also runs to the sump. The get a 35 totally 
dry you would need about 6 bilge pumps at least, the bilge does not flow evenly 
to either end.
Offshore in rough conditions you pay for the speedy hull design, the low point 
is frequently not the bilge at all and keeping water out of the lockers and so 
on is a nuisance.

Joe
Coquina
C 35 MK I
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Stus-List Re: C 35 Mk 1

[Neil Gallagher via CnC-List]

Glen,

I installed a Rule electric bilge pump that sits in the after part of 
the bilge and discharges into the port forward cockpit scupper drain 
hose just under the cockpit sole (opposite the scupper with the sink 
drain).  A check valve is a good idea with this arrangement, even though 
the connection into the drain is above the waterline.  I then put a 
float switch on a strap (stainless) that has a hole big enough to fit 
over one of the keelbolts, uing a jam nut to hold the strap to the bolt.


It's a long story but my boat does not have the deep sump under the mast 
step - it was filled in - but if you put the suction hose down into the 
sump it will need a float switch there also.  There are switches that 
would fit but it would a job getting one in there, I would imagine.


Neil Gallagher
Weatherly 35-1
Glen Cove, NY

On 1/25/2021 4:25 PM, Glen Eddie via CnC-List wrote:


Hello everyone,

I have a C 35 Mk I.  As many know, it didn’t come with an automatic 
bilge pump (just a manual whale gusher).  I want to install an 
automatic bilge pump this off season and would like to hear 
suggestions.  I think the hose should go into the bilge well below the 
mast step but I am wondering to what people affixed the switch.


As always, thanks in advance.








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Stus-List Re: C 35 Mk 1

[dwight veinot via CnC-List]

I have just 1 automatic bilge pump plus the manual gusher 10. The auto pump
has float switch plus a manual switch at the switch panel. The float switch
goes straight to the battery with fuse a few inches from + terminal. Exit
for the gusher is out the stern. Exit for the auto on port side between toe
rail a cove stripe. No one way valve.  Neither will pump to dry bilge. No
limber holes in floors. Works good for me

On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 7:04 PM Shawn Wright via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Not sure how the mk1 bilge compares, but my mk2 has two auto bilge pumps
> in addition to the manual. Last winter I re worked everything as follows:
>
> 1. Manual whale gusher below engine panel in cockpit, hose led to just
> aft of aft-most keel stud.
> 2. Rule 500gph pump between keel stud #2 & 3 (from stern), activated by
> Johnson Controls magnetic switch between stud #1 & 2
> 3. Rule 2500gph pump with float switch between keel stud #3 & 4
> 4. In an emergency the engine raw water intake can be quickly switched to
> pull from the bilge, although the pump is only rated at 360gph, so it's
> probably not going to help a sinking ship much...
>
> Both auto pumps are wired direct to battery busbar (fused), with manual
> override switches on panel, and each has a check valve installed to prevent
> the significant water in the hose from draining back to the bilge (these
> can be a problem, either sticking open or closed if not kept clean). I have
> a T and and plug in the water tank line so it can be emptied to the bilge,
> which makes for a good way to check the pump operation and flush everything
> with fresh water. The small pump uses 3/4" hose, the larger is 1 1/4" hose,
> both exiting on the transom. I plan to move them to the stern counter some
> day to get a cleaner looking transom.
>
> Maybe overkill, but it was set up this way by a PO, and I've just tidied
> it up a bit and I check them regularly with the manual switches, and with
> the floats whenever I'm in the bilge.
>
>
>
> --
> Shawn Wright
> shawngwri...@gmail.com
> S/V Callisto, 1974 C 35
> https://www.facebook.com/SVCallisto
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 1:27 PM Glen Eddie via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>>
>>
>> I have a C 35 Mk I.  As many know, it didn’t come with an automatic
>> bilge pump (just a manual whale gusher).  I want to install an automatic
>> bilge pump this off season and would like to hear suggestions.  I think the
>> hose should go into the bilge well below the mast step but I am wondering
>> to what people affixed the switch.
>>
>>
>>
>> As always, thanks in advance.
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> *Glen Eddie*
>>
>> Tel:  416-777-5357
>>
>> Fax:  1-888-812-2557
>>
>> ged...@torkinmanes.com
>>
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>>
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>>
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>> 
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Stus-List Re: C 35 Mk 1

[Shawn Wright via CnC-List]

Not sure how the mk1 bilge compares, but my mk2 has two auto bilge pumps in
addition to the manual. Last winter I re worked everything as follows:

1. Manual whale gusher below engine panel in cockpit, hose led to just
aft of aft-most keel stud.
2. Rule 500gph pump between keel stud #2 & 3 (from stern), activated by
Johnson Controls magnetic switch between stud #1 & 2
3. Rule 2500gph pump with float switch between keel stud #3 & 4
4. In an emergency the engine raw water intake can be quickly switched to
pull from the bilge, although the pump is only rated at 360gph, so it's
probably not going to help a sinking ship much...

Both auto pumps are wired direct to battery busbar (fused), with manual
override switches on panel, and each has a check valve installed to prevent
the significant water in the hose from draining back to the bilge (these
can be a problem, either sticking open or closed if not kept clean). I have
a T and and plug in the water tank line so it can be emptied to the bilge,
which makes for a good way to check the pump operation and flush everything
with fresh water. The small pump uses 3/4" hose, the larger is 1 1/4" hose,
both exiting on the transom. I plan to move them to the stern counter some
day to get a cleaner looking transom.

Maybe overkill, but it was set up this way by a PO, and I've just tidied
it up a bit and I check them regularly with the manual switches, and with
the floats whenever I'm in the bilge.



--
Shawn Wright
shawngwri...@gmail.com
S/V Callisto, 1974 C 35
https://www.facebook.com/SVCallisto


On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 1:27 PM Glen Eddie via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Hello everyone,
>
>
>
> I have a C 35 Mk I.  As many know, it didn’t come with an automatic
> bilge pump (just a manual whale gusher).  I want to install an automatic
> bilge pump this off season and would like to hear suggestions.  I think the
> hose should go into the bilge well below the mast step but I am wondering
> to what people affixed the switch.
>
>
>
> As always, thanks in advance.
>
>
> --
>
> *Glen Eddie*
>
> Tel:  416-777-5357
>
> Fax:  1-888-812-2557
>
> ged...@torkinmanes.com
>
> VCard 
>
> *Torkin Manes LLP*
> Barristers & Solicitors
>
> 151 Yonge Street, Suite 1500
> Toronto ON M5C 2W7
> torkinmanes.com 
>
>
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> Ranked the #1 Ontario Regional Law Firm by Canadian Lawyer*
>
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Stus-List Re: C 35 Mk 1

[Bob Mann via CnC-List]

Hi Glen,

I installed an automatic pump in my boat a couple years ago.  I ran 1" (I 
think) black hose aft, under the engine, and out the stern.  I didn't put it in 
the deepest part of the bilge.  When it stops cycling there's always some water 
that flows back.

Bob Mann
Mystic
Detroit, MI

> On 01/25/2021 4:25 PM Glen Eddie via CnC-List  
> wrote:
>  
>  
> 
> Hello everyone,
> 
>  
> 
> I have a C 35 Mk I.  As many know, it didn’t come with an automatic 
> bilge pump (just a manual whale gusher).  I want to install an automatic 
> bilge pump this off season and would like to hear suggestions.  I think the 
> hose should go into the bilge well below the mast step but I am wondering to 
> what people affixed the switch. 
> 
>  
> 
> As always, thanks in advance.
> 
>  
> 
> 
> -
> 
> Glen Eddie
> 
> Tel:  416-777-5357
> 
> Fax:  1-888-812-2557
> 
> ged...@torkinmanes.com mailto:ged...@torkinmanes.com
> 
> VCard http://www.torkinmanes.com/vcard.aspx?ID=glen-eddie
> 
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> 
> 151 Yonge Street, Suite 1500
> Toronto ON M5C 2W7 
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> 
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> Ranked the #1 Ontario Regional Law Firm by Canadian Lawyer
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