Stus-List Re: Sea stories vs Fairy tales

[Martin DeYoung via CnC-List]

That particular owner was not from Liverpool, as far as I know he has always 
been based out of the PNW.

As to being extremely hungover at the time, there was this once I did mutiny 
owing to an extreme hangover. The scene of the crime was Lahaina (Maui, 
Hawaii), Sauza Cup regatta, 1985. (Sauza Tequila was the sponsor.)  For the 
Saturday night party they mixed Margaritas in garbage cans. Hence the extreme 
hangover.

Some background on the seriousness of a Sauza Cup: I had previously 
participated in the Sauza Cups of 1981 and 1982.  During those events I 
observed and participated in both water balloon and food fights (boat to boat) 
often food stuffs left over from the recently completed Transpac or Vic-Maui 
races.  As most of the Sauza Cup race boats sailed over in the Transpac or 
Vic-Maui they were often in top race condition except often the racing sails 
were replaced with delivery sails and most of the crack racing crews replaced 
with friends/family/delivery crew.

In 1985 I was part of a group of west coast sailors that chartered the Barnett 
52 “Climax” for Transpac. Our moto was “Nothing performs like a loaner”. We 
scored first to finish in class B and our navigator won the Navigation trophy. 
After repairing the nearly failed rudder bearings (leaking the last 3 days) 
Climax was sailed up to Lahaina.

Climax had a Sauza Cup crew of 8, 2 of us from the Transpac crew, 2 guys that 
we race with in the PNW and our spouses.  After Saturday’s races (round the 
cans in the lee of the island), and the epic race dinner/party getting back to 
the hotel around 2AM the 6AM wake up call for the Sunday race over to Molokai 
and back was unwelcome.

The Molokai race starts in the lee of Maui then crosses in the trade wind 
exposed Pialolo channel between Kaanapali Maui and the Molokia rocks. We were 
flying a full main and a #3. After the first few miles in the channel the wind 
was freeing up a little and the skipper of the day asked me to do a sail change 
to a bigger headsail.  So, big seas, lotsa wind, light on experienced crew, and 
a very hungover foredeck guy.

This is where I pretty much pulled a munity by telling the skipper, possibly in 
crass terms: “If you want to change sails come on up I’ll come back there and 
drive.”  Well, as nobody else wanted to take on the short handed challenge of 
changing a headsail in trade winds/seas we kept the #3.  It all worked out, as 
we approached the Kaanapali mark and the turn downwind to the finish the wind 
increased and came forward.

Martin DeYoung
Calypso
1971 C&C 43
Port Ludlow/Seattle

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Subject: Stus-List Re: Sea stories vs Fairy tales

Was this owner from Liverpool, by any chance? And were you extremely overhung 
at the time? Because I recal this exact scenario taking place in Annapolis one 
year. Though nothing beats a certain southern gentleman known for both his 
somewhat coarse behavior in social situations and his success on the racecourse 
could be heard to occasionally explain, ‘goddamnit, you guys are makin’ me look 
bad!’ To which it was suggested that he “shut up and drive the boat.”

Merry Christmas, everyone
Andy
Andrew Burton
26 Beacon Hill
Newport, RI
USA02840

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Stus-List Re: Sea stories vs Fairy tales

[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

Jim Muldoon was (is?) the somewhat infamous owner of a few big racing boats 
named Donnybrook. He was a character and not always well liked by his crew and 
competitors.
One morning right at sunrise in the anchorage at Oxford the day after the 
Annapolis-Oxford race, some sailors from a boat we never found out commandeered 
a PA horn and a crab boat. They woke up the entire anchorage and half the town 
repeating "Jim Muldoon has sex with sheep". We never did find out who swiped 
the crab boat or if the crabbers ever figured out what their boat got used for. 
We were ROFLMAO!

Joe
Coquina
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Stus-List Re: Sea stories vs Fairy tales

[Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List]

It is nice to see that we all agree about FantasyLand

Mike Hoyt
Persistence
Halifax, NS

From: Martin DeYoung via CnC-List 
Sent: December 22, 2021 2:57 AM
To: Stu Murray 
Cc: Martin DeYoung 
Subject: Stus-List Sea stories vs Fairy tales

It seems a bit quiet on the list...

The difference between a sea story and a fairy tale:
A fairy tale begins with "Once upon a time..."
A sea story begins with "now this ain't no sh*t..."

Now this ain't no sh*t:

Back in the IOR racing days of the early 80's I was a card carrying member of 
the Foredeck Union (abbreviated as FU).  As a FU member in good standing, when 
on a crew doing the foredeck (Adventure land) duties, I always felt I owned the 
boat from the mast forward.

This particular race boat was 54' custom design with a powerful sail plan to 
help with the typical light air of the PNW.  With large often heavy sails 
(including an early Kevlar #3 that seemed to be made of plywood) some sail 
evolutions took longer than others.  The owner/skipper/tactician (top guy in 
Fantasy land) was (still is) very competitive, spent considerable $$ for the 
extra 1/10th knot speed increase, and he thought he owned the entire boat 
regardless who was on the bow.

In the middle of a long point to point race with many transitions, head 
sail/spinnaker/head sail etc., the owner yells something at the foredeck I 
couldn't quite hear but maybe something like "a bunch of little girls could 
hoist that sail faster". Being a young (ish) arrogant card carrying FU member I 
responded with a full throated "F*ck you".

Fortunately the pit guy was sharp witted and well placed between the foredeck 
and the cockpit.  When the owner yelled back, rather angrily "what did he say?" 
the pit guy answers "put up the #2".

Martin DeYoung
Calypso
1971 C&C 43
Port Ludlow/Seattle

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Stus-List Re: Sea stories vs Fairy tales

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

Was this owner from Liverpool, by any chance? And were you extremely overhung 
at the time? Because I recal this exact scenario taking place in Annapolis one 
year. Though nothing beats a certain southern gentleman known for both his 
somewhat coarse behavior in social situations and his success on the racecourse 
could be heard to occasionally explain, ‘goddamnit, you guys are makin’ me look 
bad!’ To which it was suggested that he “shut up and drive the boat.”

Merry Christmas, everyone
Andy

Andrew Burton
26 Beacon Hill
Newport, RI 
USA02840

http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
+401 965-5260

> On Dec 22, 2021, at 01:56, Martin DeYoung via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> It seems a bit quiet on the list…
>  
> The difference between a sea story and a fairy tale:
> A fairy tale begins with “Once upon a time…”
> A sea story begins with “now this ain’t no sh*t…”
>  
> Now this ain’t no sh*t:
>  
> Back in the IOR racing days of the early 80’s I was a card carrying member of 
> the Foredeck Union (abbreviated as FU).  As a FU member in good standing, 
> when on a crew doing the foredeck (Adventure land) duties, I always felt I 
> owned the boat from the mast forward.
>  
> This particular race boat was 54’ custom design with a powerful sail plan to 
> help with the typical light air of the PNW.  With large often heavy sails 
> (including an early Kevlar #3 that seemed to be made of plywood) some sail 
> evolutions took longer than others.  The owner/skipper/tactician (top guy in 
> Fantasy land) was (still is) very competitive, spent considerable $$ for the 
> extra 1/10th knot speed increase, and he thought he owned the entire boat 
> regardless who was on the bow.
>  
> In the middle of a long point to point race with many transitions, head 
> sail/spinnaker/head sail etc., the owner yells something at the foredeck I 
> couldn’t quite hear but maybe something like “a bunch of little girls could 
> hoist that sail faster”. Being a young (ish) arrogant card carrying FU member 
> I responded with a full throated “F*ck you”.
>  
> Fortunately the pit guy was sharp witted and well placed between the foredeck 
> and the cockpit.  When the owner yelled back, rather angrily “what did he 
> say?” the pit guy answers “put up the #2”.
>  
> Martin DeYoung
> Calypso
> 1971 C&C 43
> Port Ludlow/Seattle
>  
> Sent from Mail for Windows
>  
> Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with 
> the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use 
> PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray  Thanks - Stu
Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the 
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