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I second that Please document and post a little of your voyage I may be coming the “other way” later this year Thanks!! John Conklin S/V Halcyon S/V Heartbeat > On Apr 21, 2023, at 3:31 PM, Bill Coleman via CnC-List > wrote: > > > It should be a wonderful trip, Tom. . You will remember it for the rest of > your life. I think the Erie Canal is still free, which is amazing. That costs > NYS a ton. > I did it down to FLA with a slip neighbor in the fall or 2000 on a big > powerboat, loads of fun. I made the mistake of letting the owner know I could > cook, and ended up cooking breakfasts the rest of the way down, which > actually turned out not to be a curse. We had food MY way, The Stove was > right up on the bridge, so I could cook and watch the world go by. > Then I did it again in 2018 upbound from Annapolis. That was also a wonderful > trip, but it would have been more enjoyable as a passenger, as I spent a lot > of time fretting about groundings, which turned out to be not unfounded. > My good buddy Dave, who is even more anal than me, took copious notes, and > put them on his blog, if you are interested. It is in Wordpress, which is a > little convoluted to read, but might hold some interesting info/Data and be > helpful.. We didn't sail, I took the spar out before the trip, and had it > trucked up, cheap insurance and made the trip a hell of a lot easier. If you > do not have a lot of overhang, it may not be too bad. I always hated just > the short trip from the lift well to my slip with the spar laying down. I > once caught the top of the spar on the sling cables backing out with my 39 in > a crosswind, and almost ripped the mast off the boat. > > https://pilgrimliberty.wordpress.com/2018/05/page/2/ > > Bill Coleman > Entrada, Erie PA > >> On Fri, Apr 21, 2023 at 9:49 AM Thomas Perison via CnC-List >> wrote: >> All - >> After much of your collective feedback as well as discussions w The Admiral, >> I’ve decided to sail Therapy from Solomons MD to Buffalo. >> It should be a great experience- I hope. >> My planned window: leave late May; arrive about 2.5 wks later in Buffalo. A >> bit over 700 nm; based on initial planning. >> Thanks to all for your advice and encouragement ! >> Tom >> Therapy >> 29 Mk2 >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> On Mar 28, 2023, at 8:41 AM, Matt Wolford via CnC-List wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> Background: My boat “Therapy” (29 mkII) currently is berthed in Solomons >>> MD. I moved to Buffalo NY this past fall (the “why” is a long story >>> …planning on trucking her here this spring (have quotes etc). >>> Debating about selling her in MD vs the ~$4k moving cost. I have put >>> extensive work ($) in her over the past 5 yrs: new electronics w/NMEA 2000 >>> / running rigging / interior / exterior cushions / Bimini & dodger / >>> traveler & main sheet; lifelines, lights; among other things. >>> I know most of that doesn’t translate to much add’l value….online ads range >>> from $teens to low $20s. >>> My main question..thoughts on the least-bad option: sell in MD or bear the >>> cost to truck her to WNY? >>> I believe she’s worth about $20k…thinking realistically. >>> Before y’all think I’m throwing out the anchor - there is a very nice 35-Mk >>> III for sale locally…! >>> >>> Cheers ! >>> Tom >>> “Therapy” >>> 1984 29-Mk II >>> Solomons MD >>> > Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help > me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: > https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > Thanks for your help. > Stu Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks for your help. Stu
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It should be a wonderful trip, Tom. . You will remember it for the rest of your life. I think the Erie Canal is still free, which is amazing. That costs NYS a ton. I did it down to FLA with a slip neighbor in the fall or 2000 on a big powerboat, loads of fun. I made the mistake of letting the owner know I could cook, and ended up cooking breakfasts the rest of the way down, which actually turned out not to be a curse. We had food MY way, The Stove was right up on the bridge, so I could cook and watch the world go by. Then I did it again in 2018 upbound from Annapolis. That was also a wonderful trip, but it would have been more enjoyable as a passenger, as I spent a lot of time fretting about groundings, which turned out to be not unfounded. My good buddy Dave, who is even more anal than me, took copious notes, and put them on his blog, if you are interested. It is in Wordpress, which is a little convoluted to read, but might hold some interesting info/Data and be helpful.. We didn't sail, I took the spar out before the trip, and had it trucked up, cheap insurance and made the trip a hell of a lot easier. If you do not have a lot of overhang, it may not be too bad. I always hated just the short trip from the lift well to my slip with the spar laying down. I once caught the top of the spar on the sling cables backing out with my 39 in a crosswind, and almost ripped the mast off the boat. https://pilgrimliberty.wordpress.com/2018/05/page/2/ Bill Coleman Entrada, Erie PA On Fri, Apr 21, 2023 at 9:49 AM Thomas Perison via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > All - > After much of your collective feedback as well as discussions w The > Admiral, I’ve decided to sail Therapy from Solomons MD to Buffalo. > It should be a great experience- I hope. > My planned window: leave late May; arrive about 2.5 wks later in Buffalo. > A bit over 700 nm; based on initial planning. > Thanks to all for your advice and encouragement ! > Tom > Therapy > 29 Mk2 > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Mar 28, 2023, at 8:41 AM, Matt Wolford via CnC-List < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > > > > > Background: My boat “Therapy” (29 mkII) currently is berthed in Solomons > MD. I moved to Buffalo NY this past fall (the “why” is a long story > …planning on trucking her here this spring (have quotes etc). > Debating about selling her in MD vs the ~$4k moving cost. I have put > extensive work ($) in her over the past 5 yrs: new electronics w/NMEA 2000 > / running rigging / interior / exterior cushions / Bimini & dodger / > traveler & main sheet; lifelines, lights; among other things. > I know most of that doesn’t translate to much add’l value….online ads > range from $teens to low $20s. > My main question..thoughts on the least-bad option: sell in MD or bear > the cost to truck her to WNY? > I believe she’s worth about $20k…thinking realistically. > Before y’all think I’m throwing out the anchor - there is a very nice > 35-Mk III for sale locally…! > > Cheers ! > Tom > “Therapy” > 1984 29-Mk II > Solomons MD > > Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks for your help. Stu
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Just in time for the Interclub Cruise! From: Thomas Perison Sent: Friday, April 21, 2023 9:49 AM To: Stus-List Cc: wolf...@erie.net Subject: Re: Stus-List Re: To sell or not to sell All - After much of your collective feedback as well as discussions w The Admiral, I’ve decided to sail Therapy from Solomons MD to Buffalo. It should be a great experience- I hope. My planned window: leave late May; arrive about 2.5 wks later in Buffalo. A bit over 700 nm; based on initial planning. Thanks to all for your advice and encouragement ! Tom Therapy 29 Mk2 Sent from my iPhone On Mar 28, 2023, at 8:41 AM, Matt Wolford via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote: Lots of C on Lake Erie, yes. From: Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Sent: Monday, March 27, 2023 6:31 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Cc: Tom Buscaglia mailto:t...@sv-alera.com> > Subject: Stus-List Re: To sell or not to sell I'll third that. Between eastern lake Erie and and western lake Ontario there are more well kept C's that any other area in the world. I got my Alera from Niagara on the Lake on Lake Ontario, where she was made. She was on the hard at the Niagara on the Lake Sailing Club and we shipped her to the Pacific Northwest. I was b;pen away by the yard at the NoL Sailing Club...over 60% of the sailboats there were classic (pre 93) C Not too sure about Lake Erie,, but I suspect there is a healthy population of C there as well. I'm sure you can find your next boat there. Tom B .¤º°`°º¤,¸¸,¤º°`°º¤¤º°`°º¤,¸¸,¤º°`°º¤. Tom & Lynn Buscaglia SV Alera C 37+/40 Vashon Island WA (206) 463-9200 www.sv-alera.com <https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=http%3a%2f%2fwww.sv-alera.com=E,1,n4RXhYOz1Sm5QKTLGB-Nn5fyhsZf_Jje-GyuMNnofUt9fFJm6-mha-XNO7mGFS6TZ4tm8TGN3FAoDwP1rRLRVYN8R64QlrvIS_DGrk8zkesB7NPxmLIYtg,,=1> On 3/27/2023 3:19 PM, Edd Schillay via CnC-List wrote: Thomas, 4k is very cheap for trucking a boat. Does that include hauling demasting, loading and unloading — and then restepping? My advice is that you are probably better off selling down there and shop for a new boat up north. All the best, Edd ———- Edd M. Schillay Captain of the “Starship Enterprise” Bayliner 3788 | NCC-1701-C Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL ———- 914.774.9767 |Mobile ———- Sent via iPhone 14 Pro iPhone. iTypos. iApologize On Mar 27, 2023, at 6:06 PM, Thomas Perison via CnC-List <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: Greetings all - Long-time follower, believe this is my 1st post. …welcoming all input / advice from the elders… -sorry in advance for the long post - Background: My boat “Therapy” (29 mkII) currently is berthed in Solomons MD. I moved to Buffalo NY this past fall (the “why” is a long story …planning on trucking her here this spring (have quotes etc). Debating about selling her in MD vs the ~$4k moving cost. I have put extensive work ($) in her over the past 5 yrs: new electronics w/NMEA 2000 / running rigging / interior / exterior cushions / Bimini & dodger / traveler & main sheet; lifelines, lights; among other things. I know most of that doesn’t translate to much add’l value.online <https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fvalue.online=E,1,W77ASrQ1QoudODPHEInoNc4dq7CeSDrkrJPe7aLBDJCRrOCGEzMNTlb9J1swN9BOFoN6e8aBsXc3ztB-tUvIdtsyPRRPQ2WRCeVkJQ84bz0jZANdfO7j=1_add=1> ads range from $teens to low $20s. My main question..thoughts on the least-bad option: sell in MD or bear the cost to truck her to WNY? I believe she’s worth about $20k…thinking realistically. Before y’all think I’m throwing out the anchor - there is a very nice 35-Mk III for sale locally…! Cheers ! Tom “Therapy” 1984 29-Mk II Solomons MD Sent from my iPhone Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks for your help. Stu Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks for your help. Stu -- Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks for your help. Stu Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks for your help. Stu
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Anything I can do to help, don’t hesitate to ask. I’ve done that route many times. I’m dropping off a boat in Albany about the time you’re leaving the Chesapeake.AndyAndrew Burton26 Beacon HillNewport, RI USA 02840http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/+401 965-5260On Apr 21, 2023, at 09:50, Thomas Perison via CnC-List wrote:All - After much of your collective feedback as well as discussions w The Admiral, I’ve decided to sail Therapy from Solomons MD to Buffalo. It should be a great experience- I hope. My planned window: leave late May; arrive about 2.5 wks later in Buffalo. A bit over 700 nm; based on initial planning. Thanks to all for your advice and encouragement ! TomTherapy 29 Mk2 Sent from my iPhoneOn Mar 28, 2023, at 8:41 AM, Matt Wolford via CnC-List wrote:Lots of C on Lake Erie, yes. From: Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List Sent: Monday, March 27, 2023 6:31 PMTo: cnc-list@cnc-list.comCc: Tom Buscaglia Subject: Stus-List Re: To sell or not to sell I'll third that. Between eastern lake Erie and and western lake Ontario there are more well kept C's that any other area in the world. I got my Alera from Niagara on the Lake on Lake Ontario, where she was made. She was on the hard at the Niagara on the Lake Sailing Club and we shipped her to the Pacific Northwest. I was b;pen away by the yard at the NoL Sailing Club...over 60% of the sailboats there were classic (pre 93) C Not too sure about Lake Erie,, but I suspect there is a healthy population of C there as well.I'm sure you can find your next boat there.Tom B.¤º°`°º¤,¸¸,¤º°`°º¤¤º°`°º¤,¸¸,¤º°`°º¤.Tom & Lynn BuscagliaSV AleraC 37+/40Vashon Island WA(206) 463-9200www.sv-alera.com On 3/27/2023 3:19 PM, Edd Schillay via CnC-List wrote:Thomas, 4k is very cheap for trucking a boat. Does that include hauling demasting, loading and unloading — and then restepping? My advice is that you are probably better off selling down there and shop for a new boat up north. All the best, Edd———-Edd M. SchillayCaptain of the “Starship Enterprise”Bayliner 3788 | NCC-1701-CVenice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL———-914.774.9767 | Mobile———-Sent via iPhone 14 ProiPhone. iTypos. iApologizeOn Mar 27, 2023, at 6:06 PM, Thomas Perison via CnC-List wrote:Greetings all - Long-time follower, believe this is my 1st post. …welcoming all input / advice from the elders…-sorry in advance for the long post - Background: My boat “Therapy” (29 mkII) currently is berthed in Solomons MD. I moved to Buffalo NY this past fall (the “why” is a long story …planning on trucking her here this spring (have quotes etc). Debating about selling her in MD vs the ~$4k moving cost. I have put extensive work ($) in her over the past 5 yrs: new electronics w/NMEA 2000 / running rigging / interior / exterior cushions / Bimini & dodger / traveler & main sheet; lifelines, lights; among other things. I know most of that doesn’t translate to much add’l value….online ads range from $teens to low $20s. My main question..thoughts on the least-bad option: sell in MD or bear the cost to truck her to WNY? I believe she’s worth about $20k…thinking realistically. Before y’all think I’m throwing out the anchor - there is a very nice 35-Mk III for sale locally…! Cheers ! Tom “Therapy”1984 29-Mk II Solomons MD Sent from my iPhonePlease show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at:https://www.paypal.me/stumurrayThanks for your help.StuPlease show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at:https://www.paypal.me/stumurrayThanks for your help.Stu-- Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at:https://www.paypal.me/stumurrayThanks for your help.StuPlease show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at:https://www.paypal.me/stumurrayThanks for your help.StuPlease show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks for your help. Stu
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All - After much of your collective feedback as well as discussions w The Admiral, I’ve decided to sail Therapy from Solomons MD to Buffalo. It should be a great experience- I hope. My planned window: leave late May; arrive about 2.5 wks later in Buffalo. A bit over 700 nm; based on initial planning. Thanks to all for your advice and encouragement ! TomTherapy 29 Mk2 Sent from my iPhoneOn Mar 28, 2023, at 8:41 AM, Matt Wolford via CnC-List wrote:Lots of C on Lake Erie, yes. From: Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List Sent: Monday, March 27, 2023 6:31 PMTo: cnc-list@cnc-list.comCc: Tom Buscaglia Subject: Stus-List Re: To sell or not to sell I'll third that. Between eastern lake Erie and and western lake Ontario there are more well kept C's that any other area in the world. I got my Alera from Niagara on the Lake on Lake Ontario, where she was made. She was on the hard at the Niagara on the Lake Sailing Club and we shipped her to the Pacific Northwest. I was b;pen away by the yard at the NoL Sailing Club...over 60% of the sailboats there were classic (pre 93) C Not too sure about Lake Erie,, but I suspect there is a healthy population of C there as well.I'm sure you can find your next boat there.Tom B.¤º°`°º¤,¸¸,¤º°`°º¤¤º°`°º¤,¸¸,¤º°`°º¤.Tom & Lynn BuscagliaSV AleraC 37+/40Vashon Island WA(206) 463-9200www.sv-alera.com On 3/27/2023 3:19 PM, Edd Schillay via CnC-List wrote:Thomas, 4k is very cheap for trucking a boat. Does that include hauling demasting, loading and unloading — and then restepping? My advice is that you are probably better off selling down there and shop for a new boat up north. All the best, Edd———-Edd M. SchillayCaptain of the “Starship Enterprise”Bayliner 3788 | NCC-1701-CVenice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL———-914.774.9767 | Mobile———-Sent via iPhone 14 ProiPhone. iTypos. iApologizeOn Mar 27, 2023, at 6:06 PM, Thomas Perison via CnC-List wrote:Greetings all - Long-time follower, believe this is my 1st post. …welcoming all input / advice from the elders…-sorry in advance for the long post - Background: My boat “Therapy” (29 mkII) currently is berthed in Solomons MD. I moved to Buffalo NY this past fall (the “why” is a long story …planning on trucking her here this spring (have quotes etc). Debating about selling her in MD vs the ~$4k moving cost. I have put extensive work ($) in her over the past 5 yrs: new electronics w/NMEA 2000 / running rigging / interior / exterior cushions / Bimini & dodger / traveler & main sheet; lifelines, lights; among other things. I know most of that doesn’t translate to much add’l value….online ads range from $teens to low $20s. My main question..thoughts on the least-bad option: sell in MD or bear the cost to truck her to WNY? I believe she’s worth about $20k…thinking realistically. Before y’all think I’m throwing out the anchor - there is a very nice 35-Mk III for sale locally…! Cheers ! Tom “Therapy”1984 29-Mk II Solomons MD Sent from my iPhonePlease show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at:https://www.paypal.me/stumurrayThanks for your help.StuPlease show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at:https://www.paypal.me/stumurrayThanks for your help.Stu-- Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at:https://www.paypal.me/stumurrayThanks for your help.StuPlease show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks for your help. Stu
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Only input I’ll provide is that I loved my 35 MK 3 and wish I never sold it. Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 27, 2023, at 6:20 PM, Edd Schillay via CnC-List > wrote: > > Thomas, > > 4k is very cheap for trucking a boat. Does that include hauling demasting, > loading and unloading — and then restepping? > > My advice is that you are probably better off selling down there and shop for > a new boat up north. > > All the best, > > Edd > > ———- > Edd M. Schillay > Captain of the “Starship Enterprise” > Bayliner 3788 | NCC-1701-C > Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL > ———- > 914.774.9767 |Mobile > ———- > Sent via iPhone 14 Pro > iPhone. iTypos. iApologize > > > On Mar 27, 2023, at 6:06 PM, Thomas Perison via CnC-List > wrote: > > Greetings all - > Long-time follower, believe this is my 1st post. …welcoming all input / > advice from the elders… > -sorry in advance for the long post - > > Background: My boat “Therapy” (29 mkII) currently is berthed in Solomons MD. > I moved to Buffalo NY this past fall (the “why” is a long story …planning on > trucking her here this spring (have quotes etc). > Debating about selling her in MD vs the ~$4k moving cost. I have put > extensive work ($) in her over the past 5 yrs: new electronics w/NMEA 2000 / > running rigging / interior / exterior cushions / Bimini & dodger / traveler & > main sheet; lifelines, lights; among other things. > I know most of that doesn’t translate to much add’l value….online ads range > from $teens to low $20s. > My main question..thoughts on the least-bad option: sell in MD or bear the > cost to truck her to WNY? > I believe she’s worth about $20k…thinking realistically. > Before y’all think I’m throwing out the anchor - there is a very nice 35-Mk > III for sale locally…! > > Cheers ! > Tom > “Therapy” > 1984 29-Mk II > Solomons MD > > > Sent from my iPhone > Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help > me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: > https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > Thanks for your help. > Stu > Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help > me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: > https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > Thanks for your help. > Stu Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks for your help. Stu
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Lots of C on Lake Erie, yes. From: Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List Sent: Monday, March 27, 2023 6:31 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Tom Buscaglia Subject: Stus-List Re: To sell or not to sell I'll third that. Between eastern lake Erie and and western lake Ontario there are more well kept C's that any other area in the world. I got my Alera from Niagara on the Lake on Lake Ontario, where she was made. She was on the hard at the Niagara on the Lake Sailing Club and we shipped her to the Pacific Northwest. I was b;pen away by the yard at the NoL Sailing Club...over 60% of the sailboats there were classic (pre 93) C Not too sure about Lake Erie,, but I suspect there is a healthy population of C there as well. I'm sure you can find your next boat there. Tom B .¤º°`°º¤,¸¸,¤º°`°º¤¤º°`°º¤,¸¸,¤º°`°º¤. Tom & Lynn Buscaglia SV Alera C 37+/40 Vashon Island WA (206) 463-9200 www.sv-alera.com <http://www.sv-alera.com> On 3/27/2023 3:19 PM, Edd Schillay via CnC-List wrote: Thomas, 4k is very cheap for trucking a boat. Does that include hauling demasting, loading and unloading — and then restepping? My advice is that you are probably better off selling down there and shop for a new boat up north. All the best, Edd ———- Edd M. Schillay Captain of the “Starship Enterprise” Bayliner 3788 | NCC-1701-C Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL ———- 914.774.9767 |Mobile ———- Sent via iPhone 14 Pro iPhone. iTypos. iApologize On Mar 27, 2023, at 6:06 PM, Thomas Perison via CnC-List <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: Greetings all - Long-time follower, believe this is my 1st post. …welcoming all input / advice from the elders… -sorry in advance for the long post - Background: My boat “Therapy” (29 mkII) currently is berthed in Solomons MD. I moved to Buffalo NY this past fall (the “why” is a long story …planning on trucking her here this spring (have quotes etc). Debating about selling her in MD vs the ~$4k moving cost. I have put extensive work ($) in her over the past 5 yrs: new electronics w/NMEA 2000 / running rigging / interior / exterior cushions / Bimini & dodger / traveler & main sheet; lifelines, lights; among other things. I know most of that doesn’t translate to much add’l value….online ads range from $teens to low $20s. My main question..thoughts on the least-bad option: sell in MD or bear the cost to truck her to WNY? I believe she’s worth about $20k…thinking realistically. Before y’all think I’m throwing out the anchor - there is a very nice 35-Mk III for sale locally…! Cheers ! Tom “Therapy” 1984 29-Mk II Solomons MD Sent from my iPhone Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks for your help. Stu Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks for your help. Stu -- Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks for your help. Stu
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Tom, Similarly I moved from Rochester, NY to Saco, ME last summer and had the move/sell debate. We love our 1980 C! Although much of the electronics are original, removed the LORAN in 2021 when I bought it, she is a boat we know. So we decided to move her. As soon as the kids get out of school we are motoring down the Barge Canal, restepping in Albany, anchoring at the Statue of Liberty, and sailing Long Island Sound up the coast. We (maybe only me in my family) seriously considered going down the St Lawrence around Gaspe and Cape Breton but decided it was too long, too risky, too rough of a journey. I think it’s an opportunity for you to go on an adventure! TODD On Mon, Mar 27, 2023 at 6:06 PM Thomas Perison via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Greetings all - > Long-time follower, believe this is my 1st post. …welcoming all input / > advice from the elders… > -sorry in advance for the long post - > > Background: My boat “Therapy” (29 mkII) currently is berthed in Solomons > MD. I moved to Buffalo NY this past fall (the “why” is a long story > …planning on trucking her here this spring (have quotes etc). > Debating about selling her in MD vs the ~$4k moving cost. I have put > extensive work ($) in her over the past 5 yrs: new electronics w/NMEA 2000 > / running rigging / interior / exterior cushions / Bimini & dodger / > traveler & main sheet; lifelines, lights; among other things. > I know most of that doesn’t translate to much add’l value….online ads > range from $teens to low $20s. > My main question..thoughts on the least-bad option: sell in MD or bear > the cost to truck her to WNY? > I believe she’s worth about $20k…thinking realistically. > Before y’all think I’m throwing out the anchor - there is a very nice > 35-Mk III for sale locally…! > > Cheers ! > Tom > “Therapy” > 1984 29-Mk II > Solomons MD > > > Sent from my iPhone > Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and > help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: > https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > Thanks for your help. > Stu Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks for your help. Stu
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Thomas - If you’re happy with the 29 and have invested a lot, keep it and truck it. If you intend to sell it, sell it there. If your 35-3 doesn’t work out, I will be putting windstar up for sale in a month or so. 33-2 in very (extremely) good condition, many upgrades, needs nothing. Freshwater only boat east of Toronto on Lake Ontario. Sail it home. Very complete, transparent documentation here: http://cncwindstar.blogspot.com/2015/12/hello-all-this-blog-is-intended-to.html?m=1 Dave - 33-2 Windstar Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 27, 2023, at 4:31 PM, Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List > wrote: > > > I'll third that. Between eastern lake Erie and and western lake Ontario > there are more well kept C's that any other area in the world. I got my > Alera from Niagara on the Lake on Lake Ontario, where she was made. She was > on the hard at the Niagara on the Lake Sailing Club and we shipped her to the > Pacific Northwest. I was b;pen away by the yard at the NoL Sailing > Club...over 60% of the sailboats there were classic (pre 93) C Not too > sure about Lake Erie,, but I suspect there is a healthy population of C > there as well. > > I'm sure you can find your next boat there. > > Tom B > > .¤º°`°º¤,¸¸,¤º°`°º¤¤º°`°º¤,¸¸,¤º°`°º¤. > Tom & Lynn Buscaglia > SV Alera > C 37+/40 > Vashon Island WA > (206) 463-9200 > www.sv-alera.com > > > On 3/27/2023 3:19 PM, Edd Schillay via CnC-List wrote: >> Thomas, >> >> 4k is very cheap for trucking a boat. Does that include hauling demasting, >> loading and unloading — and then restepping? >> >> My advice is that you are probably better off selling down there and shop >> for a new boat up north. >> >> All the best, >> >> Edd >> >> ———- >> Edd M. Schillay >> Captain of the “Starship Enterprise” >> Bayliner 3788 | NCC-1701-C >> Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL >> ———- >> 914.774.9767 |Mobile >> ———- >> Sent via iPhone 14 Pro >> iPhone. iTypos. iApologize >> >> >> On Mar 27, 2023, at 6:06 PM, Thomas Perison via CnC-List >> wrote: >> >> Greetings all - >> Long-time follower, believe this is my 1st post. …welcoming all input / >> advice from the elders… >> -sorry in advance for the long post - >> >> Background: My boat “Therapy” (29 mkII) currently is berthed in Solomons MD. >> I moved to Buffalo NY this past fall (the “why” is a long story …planning on >> trucking her here this spring (have quotes etc). >> Debating about selling her in MD vs the ~$4k moving cost. I have put >> extensive work ($) in her over the past 5 yrs: new electronics w/NMEA 2000 / >> running rigging / interior / exterior cushions / Bimini & dodger / traveler >> & main sheet; lifelines, lights; among other things. >> I know most of that doesn’t translate to much add’l value….online ads range >> from $teens to low $20s. >> My main question..thoughts on the least-bad option: sell in MD or bear the >> cost to truck her to WNY? >> I believe she’s worth about $20k…thinking realistically. >> Before y’all think I’m throwing out the anchor - there is a very nice 35-Mk >> III for sale locally…! >> >> Cheers ! >> Tom >> “Therapy” >> 1984 29-Mk II >> Solomons MD >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and >> help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: >> https://www.paypal.me/stumurray >> Thanks for your help. >> Stu >> >> >> Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and >> help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: >> https://www.paypal.me/stumurray >> Thanks for your help. >> Stu > -- > Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help > me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: > https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > Thanks for your help. > Stu Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks for your help. Stu
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I'll third that. Between eastern lake Erie and and western lake Ontario there are more well kept C's that any other area in the world. I got my Alera from Niagara on the Lake on Lake Ontario, where she was made. She was on the hard at the Niagara on the Lake Sailing Club and we shipped her to the Pacific Northwest. I was b;pen away by the yard at the NoL Sailing Club...over 60% of the sailboats there were classic (pre 93) C Not too sure about Lake Erie,, but I suspect there is a healthy population of C there as well. I'm sure you can find your next boat there. Tom B .¤º°`°º¤,¸¸,¤º°`°º¤¤º°`°º¤,¸¸,¤º°`°º¤. Tom & Lynn Buscaglia SV Alera C 37+/40 Vashon Island WA (206) 463-9200 www.sv-alera.com On 3/27/2023 3:19 PM, Edd Schillay via CnC-List wrote: Thomas, 4k is very cheap for trucking a boat. Does that include hauling demasting, loading and unloading — and then restepping? My advice is that you are probably better off selling down there and shop for a new boat up north. All the best, Edd ———- Edd M. Schillay Captain of the “Starship Enterprise” Bayliner 3788 | NCC-1701-C Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL ———- 914.774.9767 | Mobile ———- Sent via iPhone 14 Pro iPhone. iTypos. iApologize On Mar 27, 2023, at 6:06 PM, Thomas Perison via CnC-List wrote: Greetings all - Long-time follower, believe this is my 1st post. …welcoming all input / advice from the elders… -sorry in advance for the long post - Background: My boat “Therapy” (29 mkII) currently is berthed in Solomons MD. I moved to Buffalo NY this past fall (the “why” is a long story …planning on trucking her here this spring (have quotes etc). Debating about selling her in MD vs the ~$4k moving cost. I have put extensive work ($) in her over the past 5 yrs: new electronics w/NMEA 2000 / running rigging / interior / exterior cushions / Bimini & dodger / traveler & main sheet; lifelines, lights; among other things. I know most of that doesn’t translate to much add’l value….online ads range from $teens to low $20s. My main question..thoughts on the least-bad option: sell in MD or bear the cost to truck her to WNY? I believe she’s worth about $20k…thinking realistically. Before y’all think I’m throwing out the anchor - there is a very nice 35-Mk III for sale locally…! Cheers ! Tom “Therapy” 1984 29-Mk II Solomons MD Sent from my iPhone Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks for your help. Stu Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks for your help. Stu -- Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks for your help. Stu
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Thomas, if you have 10 days or so, the trip up the Hudson and the Erie Canal is worth doing and not very difficult. And certainly not very expensive. Just a thought. I bet if you can’t do it yourself you might find. Volunteer on this list to take the boat for you. Andy Andrew Burton 26 Beacon Hill Newport, RI USA02840 http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ +401 965-5260 > On Mar 27, 2023, at 17:14, Danny Haughey via CnC-List > wrote: > > > You can always list it and see what happens. If it didn't sell in a > predetermined period of time, have it shipped. > > If you know a broker, they could run comps on sold boats for you. That way > you'll have a better idea of your boat's worth. I think the updates and > upgrades certainty make your boat more appealing but, probably doesn't add > too much to the price. > > Good luck! > > Danny > > On Mar 27, 2023 6:05 PM, Thomas Perison via CnC-List > wrote: > Greetings all - > Long-time follower, believe this is my 1st post. …welcoming all input / > advice from the elders… > -sorry in advance for the long post - > > Background: My boat “Therapy” (29 mkII) currently is berthed in Solomons MD. > I moved to Buffalo NY this past fall (the “why” is a long story …planning on > trucking her here this spring (have quotes etc). > Debating about selling her in MD vs the ~$4k moving cost. I have put > extensive work ($) in her over the past 5 yrs: new electronics w/NMEA 2000 / > running rigging / interior / exterior cushions / Bimini & dodger / traveler & > main sheet; lifelines, lights; among other things. > I know most of that doesn’t translate to much add’l value….online ads range > from $teens to low $20s. > My main question..thoughts on the least-bad option: sell in MD or bear the > cost to truck her to WNY? > I believe she’s worth about $20k…thinking realistically. > Before y’all think I’m throwing out the anchor - there is a very nice 35-Mk > III for sale locally…! > > Cheers ! > Tom > “Therapy” > 1984 29-Mk II > Solomons MD > > > Sent from my iPhone > Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help > me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: > https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > Thanks for your help. > Stu > > > Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help > me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: > https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > Thanks for your help. > Stu Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks for your help. Stu
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Thomas, 4k is very cheap for trucking a boat. Does that include hauling demasting, loading and unloading — and then restepping? My advice is that you are probably better off selling down there and shop for a new boat up north. All the best, Edd ———- Edd M. Schillay Captain of the “Starship Enterprise” Bayliner 3788 | NCC-1701-C Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL ———- 914.774.9767 |Mobile ———- Sent via iPhone 14 Pro iPhone. iTypos. iApologize On Mar 27, 2023, at 6:06 PM, Thomas Perison via CnC-List wrote: Greetings all - Long-time follower, believe this is my 1st post. …welcoming all input / advice from the elders… -sorry in advance for the long post - Background: My boat “Therapy” (29 mkII) currently is berthed in Solomons MD. I moved to Buffalo NY this past fall (the “why” is a long story …planning on trucking her here this spring (have quotes etc). Debating about selling her in MD vs the ~$4k moving cost. I have put extensive work ($) in her over the past 5 yrs: new electronics w/NMEA 2000 / running rigging / interior / exterior cushions / Bimini & dodger / traveler & main sheet; lifelines, lights; among other things. I know most of that doesn’t translate to much add’l value….online ads range from $teens to low $20s. My main question..thoughts on the least-bad option: sell in MD or bear the cost to truck her to WNY? I believe she’s worth about $20k…thinking realistically. Before y’all think I’m throwing out the anchor - there is a very nice 35-Mk III for sale locally…! Cheers ! Tom “Therapy” 1984 29-Mk II Solomons MD Sent from my iPhone Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks for your help. StuPlease show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks for your help. Stu
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You can always list it and see what happens. If it didn't sell in a predetermined period of time, have it shipped. If you know a broker, they could run comps on sold boats for you. That way you'll have a better idea of your boat's worth. I think the updates and upgrades certainty make your boat more appealing but, probably doesn't add too much to the price. Good luck! DannyOn Mar 27, 2023 6:05 PM, Thomas Perison via CnC-List wrote:Greetings all - Long-time follower, believe this is my 1st post. …welcoming all input / advice from the elders… -sorry in advance for the long post - Background: My boat “Therapy” (29 mkII) currently is berthed in Solomons MD. I moved to Buffalo NY this past fall (the “why” is a long story …planning on trucking her here this spring (have quotes etc). Debating about selling her in MD vs the ~$4k moving cost. I have put extensive work ($) in her over the past 5 yrs: new electronics w/NMEA 2000 / running rigging / interior / exterior cushions / Bimini & dodger / traveler & main sheet; lifelines, lights; among other things. I know most of that doesn’t translate to much add’l value….online ads range from $teens to low $20s. My main question..thoughts on the least-bad option: sell in MD or bear the cost to truck her to WNY? I believe she’s worth about $20k…thinking realistically. Before y’all think I’m throwing out the anchor - there is a very nice 35-Mk III for sale locally…! Cheers ! Tom “Therapy” 1984 29-Mk II Solomons MD Sent from my iPhone Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks for your help. Stu Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks for your help. Stu