Re: Stus-List Stus list Soft shackle

[Ron Ricci via CnC-List]

I have had reasonable success preventing the jib sheets snagging on the baby 
stay by running the baby stay through a piece of 1-1/8” ID PVC tubing about 4’ 
long.  The cap from a Davis Instruments PVC Turnbuckle Boot (about $6.00) was 
used at the top.  I happened to have the tubing, but if I did it again, a 
longer tube would be better.

 

Thanks,

Ron

Ron Ricci

S/V Patriot

C 37+

Bristol, RI

 <mailto:ron.ri...@1968.usna.com> ron.ri...@1968.usna.com

 

 

 

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From: David Knecht via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
Date: 2/17/2016 8:43 PM (GMT-05:00) 
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Cc: David Knecht <davidakne...@gmail.com> 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Stus list Soft shackle 

I am interested in this discussion as I find the sheets routinely hang up on 
the baby stay no matter what I have tried.  I am tempted to detach the baby 
stay next season when the winds are lighter.  I went from two bowlines to two 
soft shackles and that was a bit better.  Last season I passed bitter end 
through the cringle and then through the spliced loop.  That is cleaner than 
the soft shackle but makes sail changes more complex.  Since I don’t change 
sails very often, that was not a big problem.  Any other thoughts on preventing 
hanging up appreciated.  Dave

 

Aries

1990 C 34+

New London, CT




 

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Re: Stus-List Stus list Soft shackle

[Bill Coleman via CnC-List]

I put some of that white vinyl over my baby stay to get it to pass over.Bill Coleman  Original message From: David Knecht via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Date: 2/17/2016  8:43 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: CnC CnC discussion list <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Cc: David Knecht <davidakne...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Stus-List Stus list Soft shackle I am interested in this discussion as I find the sheets routinely hang up on the baby stay no matter what I have tried.  I am tempted to detach the baby stay next season when the winds are lighter.  I went from two bowlines to two soft shackles and that was a bit better.  Last season I passed bitter end through the cringle and then through the spliced loop.  That is cleaner than the soft shackle but makes sail changes more complex.  Since I don’t change sails very often, that was not a big problem.  Any other thoughts on preventing hanging up appreciated.  Dave
Aries1990 C 34+New London, CT


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Re: Stus-List Stus list Soft shackle

[David Donnelly via CnC-List]

When I got Mistress 4 years ago it was my first sail boat, and when I stood the 
mast and rigged the boat for the first time, it was a lot of firsts all at once 
for me. 

 

Having taken lessons before I bought a boat I was expecting 2 separate jib 
sheets, to be tied with bowlines, but found only one sheet while rigging up. 
Not knowing any better I attached it exactly like this method. 

 

It is a bit tough to get loose at the end of the season, but I have never had 
it catch anything and will continue to use it as I don’t race and rarely if 
ever change the sail.

 

David

Mistress

1977 C 26

Wabamun Lake, Alberta

 

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Subject: Re: Stus-List Stus list Soft shackle

 

If you don't race and/or change headsails, I'm a big fan of the single line 
method. 

 

Never gets hung up on anything. 

 

http://www.sailmagazine.com/cruising/cruising-tips/no-foul-jib-sheet/ 

 

Switched to this style three years ago and haven't regretted it once. 

 

All the best,

 

Edd

 

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Re: Stus-List Stus list Soft shackle

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

If you don't race and/or change headsails, I'm a big fan of the single line 
method. 

Never gets hung up on anything. 

http://www.sailmagazine.com/cruising/cruising-tips/no-foul-jib-sheet/ 

Switched to this style three years ago and haven't regretted it once. 


All the best,

Edd

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On Feb 17, 2016, at 8:43 PM, David Knecht via CnC-List  
wrote:

I am interested in this discussion as I find the sheets routinely hang up on 
the baby stay no matter what I have tried.  I am tempted to detach the baby 
stay next season when the winds are lighter.  I went from two bowlines to two 
soft shackles and that was a bit better.  Last season I passed bitter end 
through the cringle and then through the spliced loop.  That is cleaner than 
the soft shackle but makes sail changes more complex.  Since I don’t change 
sails very often, that was not a big problem.  Any other thoughts on preventing 
hanging up appreciated.  Dave

Aries
1990 C 34+
New London, CT



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Re: Stus-List Stus list Soft shackle

[Charlie Nelson via CnC-List]

If your spreaders are in-line (not angled aft), its use is primarily to keep 
the non-telephone pole mast from pumping in serious seas or chop. Disconnect it 
unless there is usually lots of chop where you race.


My 1995 C 36 XL/ckb had an adjustable baby stay with in-line spreaders and my 
former sailmaker recommended I remove it for my use in local waters (NC 
sounds). 


I have been keeping it on board but I have now removed the track for it so its 
going in the shed!  My 155% jenny likes it better that way!




Charlies Nelson
1995 C XL/kcb
Greenville , NC


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I am interested in this discussion as I find the sheets routinely hang up on 
the baby stay no matter what I have tried.  I am tempted to detach the baby 
stay next season when the winds are lighter.  I went from two bowlines to two 
soft shackles and that was a bit better.  Last season I passed bitter end 
through the cringle and then through the spliced loop.  That is cleaner than 
the soft shackle but makes sail changes more complex.  Since I don’t change 
sails very often, that was not a big problem.  Any other thoughts on preventing 
hanging up appreciated.  Dave



Aries
1990 C 34+
New London, CT





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Re: Stus-List Stus list Soft shackle

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

Agree with Bill.  Guess it's the racer in me.  I want separate sheets so I
can change sails on the fly.  Don't want to go bald or have a set of sheets
for each headsail.  Soft shackles are the way to go.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 3:14 PM, wwadjo...@aol.com <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
wrote:

> Francis,
>
>  I will give you that is  simple, but with two sheets each attached by
> soft shackle you can remove lazy sheet and attach to a different sail prior
> to hoist if need be.
>
> Bill Walker
>
>
> Sent from my LG G Pad F™ 8.0, an AT 4G LTE tablet
>
>
> -- Original message--
>
> *From: *Jean-Francois J Rivard via CnC-List
>
> *Date: *Wed, Feb 17, 2016 4:06 PM
>
> *To: *cnc-list@cnc-list.com;
>
> *Cc: *Jean-Francois J Rivard;
>
> *Subject:*Stus-List Stus list Soft shackle
>
>
> If you're looking for the simplest / lightest/ most snagfree (And coolest
> in my book) way to attach your jib sheetsto your jib forget about the soft
> shackle /  2 lines jib sheet withbig bowline knots or splices to snag the
> spinnaker pole car  / track/ etc on its way across on a tack.
>
> My rigger just showed me this trick:
>
> 1) You just have one continuous linewith a whip in the middle
> 2) You make a loop at the whip and passit through the eye on the sail's
> clew
> 3) You put both ends of the line throughthe loop on the backside... Done.
>
> Most of should know this knot: It'scalled a luggage tag knot.
>
> That my friends is the simplest / sleekestway to go.  You combine that
> with a timed late release of the lazysheet, It doesn't snag anymore, even
> with the 150 in way too much wind:-)
>
> -Francois Rivard
> 1990 34+ "Take Five"
> Lake Lanier, GA
>
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Re: Stus-List Stus list Soft shackle

[David Knecht via CnC-List]

I am interested in this discussion as I find the sheets routinely hang up on 
the baby stay no matter what I have tried.  I am tempted to detach the baby 
stay next season when the winds are lighter.  I went from two bowlines to two 
soft shackles and that was a bit better.  Last season I passed bitter end 
through the cringle and then through the spliced loop.  That is cleaner than 
the soft shackle but makes sail changes more complex.  Since I don’t change 
sails very often, that was not a big problem.  Any other thoughts on preventing 
hanging up appreciated.  Dave

Aries
1990 C 34+
New London, CT



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Re: Stus-List Stus list Soft shackle

[wwadjourn]

Francis, I will give you that is  simple, but with two sheets each attached 
by soft shackle you can remove lazy sheet and attach to a different sail prior 
to hoist if need be.   Bill Walker  
Sent from my LG G Pad F™ 8.0, an AT 4G LTE tablet



-- Original message--From: Jean-Francois J Rivard via CnC-List Date: 
Wed, Feb 17, 2016 4:06 PMTo: cnc-list@cnc-list.com;Cc: Jean-Francois J 
Rivard;Subject:Stus-List Stus list Soft shackle
If you're looking for the simplest / lightest/ most snagfree (And coolest in my 
book) way to attach your jib sheetsto your jib forget about the soft shackle /  
2 lines jib sheet withbig bowline knots or splices to snag the spinnaker pole 
car  / track/ etc on its way across on a tack. 

My rigger just showed me this trick:

1) You just have one continuous linewith a whip in the middle
2) You make a loop at the whip and passit through the eye on the sail's clew
3) You put both ends of the line throughthe loop on the backside... Done.  

Most of should know this knot: It'scalled a luggage tag knot.  

That my friends is the simplest / sleekestway to go.  You combine that with a 
timed late release of the lazysheet, It doesn't snag anymore, even with the 150 
in way too much wind:-)  

-Francois Rivard
1990 34+ "Take Five"
Lake Lanier, GA

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Re: Stus-List Stus list Soft shackle

[Joel Aronson via CnC-List]

I have a luggage tag on a snap shackle to make sail changes faster. I was
concerned about slippage, so I put a couple of stiches in with whipping
thread.

Joel​

On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 4:05 PM, Jean-Francois J Rivard via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> If you're looking for the simplest / lightest / most snagfree (And coolest
> in my book) way to attach your jib sheets to your jib forget about the soft
> shackle /  2 lines jib sheet with big bowline knots or splices to snag the
> spinnaker pole car  / track / etc on its way across on a tack.
>
> My rigger just showed me this trick:
>
> 1) You just have one continuous line with a whip in the middle
> 2) You make a loop at the whip and pass it through the eye on the sail's
> clew
> 3) You put both ends of the line through the loop on the backside... Done.
>
>
> Most of should know this knot: It's called a luggage tag knot.
>
> That my friends is the simplest / sleekest way to go.  You combine that
> with a timed late release of the lazy sheet, It doesn't snag anymore, even
> with the 150 in way too much wind :-)
>
> -Francois Rivard
> 1990 34+ "Take Five"
> Lake Lanier, GA
>
>
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Stus-List Stus list Soft shackle

[Jean-Francois J Rivard via CnC-List]

If you're looking for the simplest / lightest / most snagfree (And coolest 
in my book) way to attach your jib sheets to your jib forget about the 
soft shackle /  2 lines jib sheet with big bowline knots or splices to 
snag the spinnaker pole car  / track / etc on its way across on a tack. 

My rigger just showed me this trick:

1) You just have one continuous line with a whip in the middle
2) You make a loop at the whip and pass it through the eye on the sail's 
clew
3) You put both ends of the line through the loop on the backside... Done. 
 

Most of should know this knot: It's called a luggage tag knot. 

That my friends is the simplest / sleekest way to go.  You combine that 
with a timed late release of the lazy sheet, It doesn't snag anymore, even 
with the 150 in way too much wind :-) 

-Francois Rivard
1990 34+ "Take Five"
Lake Lanier, GA


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