Re: Stus-List Yanmar push button died
Well, I was insulting the Yanmar starter button without enough data it turned out that one of the starter solenoid wire spade clips was 99% off of the solenoid metal spade, only held on by the plastic sheath, maybe making metal to metal contact once in a while. Hard to see but easy to detect tracing voltage drop. Crimping it a little so it takes a firm bite and attaching it again, solved the starting issue. Thanks as always to a great list, Nate Sarah Jean 1980 30-1 newly on the hard, Siskiwit Bay Marina Lake Suoerior On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 6:24 PM, Jeff Nelson via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Not sure if the 3gms are the same as the 2gms, but there is a fuse that sits near the back of the engine. The housing of mine had cracked and caused intermittent connections. I replaced it with a wireing to a circuit breaker on my 12 volt panel and the appropriate sized breaker. Just another place to look. -- Cheers, Jeff Nelson Muir Caileag CC 30 Halifax On 17/09/2014 9:53 AM, Tony Wroblewski via CnC-List wrote: I have had the same problem on my Yanmar 3gm30 for years. Exactly as you describe. Since it would start on the second try all the time it was no problem. One time it wouldn't start at all for 10 minutes and caused me to find the source. Tightened the battery cables and no problems for a year. Starting to happen again and will try the cables again. Tony Triumph CC 41 Holland, Mi Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2014 08:07:55 -0400 To: nausetbe...@optonline.net; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Yanmar push button died From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com I may have a related problem - and would like help to diagnose the cause before it becomes a significant issue. From time to time - not sure if it is getting more frequent - with the key turned, battery on and fully charged - I get nothing - not even a clunk - when I press the button. I press it a second time and 99% of the time the engine fires right up. Have any listers experienced the same - and help me identify the problem so I can fix it before I get to the stage where I can't start the engine at all. -- Jonathan Indigo CC 35III SOUTHPORT CT On Sep 17, 2014, at 7:29, Nauset Beach via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Nate Had the same issue last week on my Yanmar 3GM30F with a B Type engine panel. Was getting near complete voltage drop across the 2 terminals of the key switch when the key was turned on and nothing from the button. Turned out to be the wiring harness plug at the back of the panel. Most of the wires were corroded inside the plug though all looked well from the outside. The plug was cut out and the wires connected directly. Works like a charm. So as Dave said, check all your wiring in the start circuit before you start throwing $$$ at it replacing parts. Brian -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dave Godwin via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 8:16 PM To: Nate Flesness; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Yanmar push button died Nate, it may not be the switch. I have an original in perfect working condition if catch my drift... Check your battery ground/cabling/connections. Let me know if it is the switch and if so, you can have it. Dave 1982 CC 37 -Ronin Sent from my iPad On Sep 16, 2014, at 19:55, Nate Flesness via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I have a 2QM15 yanmar - after a few intermittents, my engine start button has failed completely. Someone knew what Cole-Hersee switch can replace it - anyone remember, or have another suggestion? Nate Sarah Jean 1980 30-1 Siskiwit Bay Marina Lake Superior ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list
Re: Stus-List Yanmar push button died
Not sure if the 3gms are the same as the 2gms, but there is a fuse that sits near the back of the engine. The housing of mine had cracked and caused intermittent connections. I replaced it with a wireing to a circuit breaker on my 12 volt panel and the appropriate sized breaker. Just another place to look. -- Cheers, Jeff Nelson Muir Caileag CC 30 Halifax On 17/09/2014 9:53 AM, Tony Wroblewski via CnC-List wrote: I have had the same problem on my Yanmar 3gm30 for years. Exactly as you describe. Since it would start on the second try all the time it was no problem. One time it wouldn't start at all for 10 minutes and caused me to find the source. Tightened the battery cables and no problems for a year. Starting to happen again and will try the cables again. Tony Triumph CC 41 Holland, Mi Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2014 08:07:55 -0400 To: nausetbe...@optonline.net; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Yanmar push button died From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com I may have a related problem - and would like help to diagnose the cause before it becomes a significant issue. From time to time - not sure if it is getting more frequent - with the key turned, battery on and fully charged - I get nothing - not even a clunk - when I press the button. I press it a second time and 99% of the time the engine fires right up. Have any listers experienced the same - and help me identify the problem so I can fix it before I get to the stage where I can't start the engine at all. -- Jonathan Indigo CC 35III SOUTHPORT CT On Sep 17, 2014, at 7:29, Nauset Beach via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Nate Had the same issue last week on my Yanmar 3GM30F with a B Type engine panel. Was getting near complete voltage drop across the 2 terminals of the key switch when the key was turned on and nothing from the button. Turned out to be the wiring harness plug at the back of the panel. Most of the wires were corroded inside the plug though all looked well from the outside. The plug was cut out and the wires connected directly. Works like a charm. So as Dave said, check all your wiring in the start circuit before you start throwing $$$ at it replacing parts. Brian -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dave Godwin via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 8:16 PM To: Nate Flesness; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Yanmar push button died Nate, it may not be the switch. I have an original in perfect working condition if catch my drift... Check your battery ground/cabling/connections. Let me know if it is the switch and if so, you can have it. Dave 1982 CC 37 -Ronin Sent from my iPad On Sep 16, 2014, at 19:55, Nate Flesness via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I have a 2QM15 yanmar - after a few intermittents, my engine start button has failed completely. Someone knew what Cole-Hersee switch can replace it - anyone remember, or have another suggestion? Nate Sarah Jean 1980 30-1 Siskiwit Bay Marina Lake Superior ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- Boat_Sig Cheers, Jeff Nelson Muir Caileag CC 30 Armdale Y.C. Halifax ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Yanmar push button died
Nate Had the same issue last week on my Yanmar 3GM30F with a B Type engine panel. Was getting near complete voltage drop across the 2 terminals of the key switch when the key was turned on and nothing from the button. Turned out to be the wiring harness plug at the back of the panel. Most of the wires were corroded inside the plug though all looked well from the outside. The plug was cut out and the wires connected directly. Works like a charm. So as Dave said, check all your wiring in the start circuit before you start throwing $$$ at it replacing parts. Brian -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dave Godwin via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 8:16 PM To: Nate Flesness; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Yanmar push button died Nate, it may not be the switch. I have an original in perfect working condition if catch my drift... Check your battery ground/cabling/connections. Let me know if it is the switch and if so, you can have it. Dave 1982 CC 37 -Ronin Sent from my iPad On Sep 16, 2014, at 19:55, Nate Flesness via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I have a 2QM15 yanmar - after a few intermittents, my engine start button has failed completely. Someone knew what Cole-Hersee switch can replace it - anyone remember, or have another suggestion? Nate Sarah Jean 1980 30-1 Siskiwit Bay Marina Lake Superior ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Yanmar push button died
I may have a related problem - and would like help to diagnose the cause before it becomes a significant issue. From time to time - not sure if it is getting more frequent - with the key turned, battery on and fully charged - I get nothing - not even a clunk - when I press the button. I press it a second time and 99% of the time the engine fires right up. Have any listers experienced the same - and help me identify the problem so I can fix it before I get to the stage where I can't start the engine at all. -- Jonathan Indigo CC 35III SOUTHPORT CT On Sep 17, 2014, at 7:29, Nauset Beach via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Nate Had the same issue last week on my Yanmar 3GM30F with a B Type engine panel. Was getting near complete voltage drop across the 2 terminals of the key switch when the key was turned on and nothing from the button. Turned out to be the wiring harness plug at the back of the panel. Most of the wires were corroded inside the plug though all looked well from the outside. The plug was cut out and the wires connected directly. Works like a charm. So as Dave said, check all your wiring in the start circuit before you start throwing $$$ at it replacing parts. Brian -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dave Godwin via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 8:16 PM To: Nate Flesness; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Yanmar push button died Nate, it may not be the switch. I have an original in perfect working condition if catch my drift... Check your battery ground/cabling/connections. Let me know if it is the switch and if so, you can have it. Dave 1982 CC 37 -Ronin Sent from my iPad On Sep 16, 2014, at 19:55, Nate Flesness via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I have a 2QM15 yanmar - after a few intermittents, my engine start button has failed completely. Someone knew what Cole-Hersee switch can replace it - anyone remember, or have another suggestion? Nate Sarah Jean 1980 30-1 Siskiwit Bay Marina Lake Superior ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Yanmar push button died
I have had the same problem on my Yanmar 3gm30 for years. Exactly as you describe. Since it would start on the second try all the time it was no problem. One time it wouldn't start at all for 10 minutes and caused me to find the source. Tightened the battery cables and no problems for a year. Starting to happen again and will try the cables again. Tony Triumph CC 41 Holland, Mi Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2014 08:07:55 -0400 To: nausetbe...@optonline.net; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Yanmar push button died From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com I may have a related problem - and would like help to diagnose the cause before it becomes a significant issue. From time to time - not sure if it is getting more frequent - with the key turned, battery on and fully charged - I get nothing - not even a clunk - when I press the button. I press it a second time and 99% of the time the engine fires right up. Have any listers experienced the same - and help me identify the problem so I can fix it before I get to the stage where I can't start the engine at all. -- Jonathan Indigo CC 35III SOUTHPORT CT On Sep 17, 2014, at 7:29, Nauset Beach via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Nate Had the same issue last week on my Yanmar 3GM30F with a B Type engine panel. Was getting near complete voltage drop across the 2 terminals of the key switch when the key was turned on and nothing from the button. Turned out to be the wiring harness plug at the back of the panel. Most of the wires were corroded inside the plug though all looked well from the outside. The plug was cut out and the wires connected directly. Works like a charm. So as Dave said, check all your wiring in the start circuit before you start throwing $$$ at it replacing parts. Brian -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dave Godwin via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 8:16 PM To: Nate Flesness; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Yanmar push button died Nate, it may not be the switch. I have an original in perfect working condition if catch my drift... Check your battery ground/cabling/connections. Let me know if it is the switch and if so, you can have it. Dave 1982 CC 37 -Ronin Sent from my iPad On Sep 16, 2014, at 19:55, Nate Flesness via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I have a 2QM15 yanmar - after a few intermittents, my engine start button has failed completely. Someone knew what Cole-Hersee switch can replace it - anyone remember, or have another suggestion? Nate Sarah Jean 1980 30-1 Siskiwit Bay Marina Lake Superior ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List Yanmar push button died
Jonathan: I had a similar problem which turned out to be the starter solenoid. They are sealed units--so, no repair is possible. I replaced the starter and solenoid before I realized that I had a spare solenoid on board in my spares kit. If you want to buy it from me, let me know--they are no longer manufactured by Yanmar. Bob Bob Boyer S/V Rainy Days / Annapolis MD 1983 CC Landfall 38 - Hull #230 email: dainyr...@icloud.com blog: dainyrays.blogspot.com There is nothing--absolutely nothing--half so much worth doing as simply messing about in boats. --Kenneth Grahame___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Yanmar push button died
I have found for years that the contact in the push button switch can become, for lack of technical terms, corroded and will not pass current on the first push. That push and subsequent ones cleans the contact enough for current to pass to the solenoid starting the engine. The symptoms appear after the switch has not been used for a length of time or the switch is old. Start testing the switch first before you work to the solenoid. Switches are relatively inexpensive. Ed CC 34 Briar Patch New Orleans On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 1:55 PM, Robert Boyer via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Jonathan: I had a similar problem which turned out to be the starter solenoid. They are sealed units--so, no repair is possible. I replaced the starter and solenoid before I realized that I had a spare solenoid on board in my spares kit. If you want to buy it from me, let me know--they are no longer manufactured by Yanmar. Bob Bob Boyer S/V Rainy Days / Annapolis MD 1983 CC Landfall 38 - Hull #230 email: dainyr...@icloud.com blog: dainyrays.blogspot.com There is nothing--absolutely nothing--half so much worth doing as simply messing about in boats. --Kenneth Grahame ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List Yanmar push button died
I have a 2QM15 yanmar - after a few intermittents, my engine start button has failed completely. Someone knew what Cole-Hersee switch can replace it - anyone remember, or have another suggestion? Nate Sarah Jean 1980 30-1 Siskiwit Bay Marina Lake Superior ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Yanmar push button died
Nate, it may not be the switch. I have an original in perfect working condition if catch my drift... Check your battery ground/cabling/connections. Let me know if it is the switch and if so, you can have it. Dave 1982 CC 37 -Ronin Sent from my iPad On Sep 16, 2014, at 19:55, Nate Flesness via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I have a 2QM15 yanmar - after a few intermittents, my engine start button has failed completely. Someone knew what Cole-Hersee switch can replace it - anyone remember, or have another suggestion? Nate Sarah Jean 1980 30-1 Siskiwit Bay Marina Lake Superior ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
