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Ours came with the Lewmar D1 or D2's. They work well. I don't have any particular procedure and there's a very slight difference in lever pressure opening / closing them at full load or no load at all and it's very easy regardless. Assuming the correct size line for the job (I replaced a few) I also don't see any noticeable difference in line wear at the clutch points and no clutch slip to speak of. Regards -Francois Rivard 1990 34+ 'Take Five Lake Lanier, GA___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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That's one thing that wasn't mentioned. The Lewmars release under load. Many of the cam type rope clutches need help. I'm fairly picky about brands in several areas. If I I had to rate my two highest hardware recommendations, they would be Lewmar rope clutches and Harken travelers. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 11:17 AM, Jean-Francois J Rivard via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Ours came with the Lewmar D1 or D2's. They work well. I don't have any particular procedure and there's a very slight difference in lever pressure opening / closing them at full load or no load at all and it's very easy regardless. Assuming the correct size line for the job (I replaced a few) I also don't see any noticeable difference in line wear at the clutch points and no clutch slip to speak of. Regards -Francois Rivard 1990 34+ 'Take Five Lake Lanier, GA ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List Halyard stoppers-Brent Driedger
Hey Brent, There must be something else wrong with the plastic in your stopper levers, it never gets that hot in Manitoba! Oh wait, I know what it is, overspray from the mosquito repellant you need to wear all summer must be breaking down the plastic. Brad (former Manitobean) 1985 CC 33 Pulse Sarnia ON Sent, miraculously through cyberspace, from my iPad! ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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Brad, Perception had Schaffer stoppers on her when we got her (85 CC 33-II K/CB). They were chewing the new running rigging very quickly - at the recommendation of our sailmaker we replaced them with lewmars. The lewmars need to be sized right for your lines, they have smaller ranges than most stoppers, but work well, and release easily under load. Sent from my iPad On Mar 21, 2015, at 9:42 PM, Bradley Lumgair via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Replacing the original 7/16 halyards on our 1985 CC 33 MKII. Got a GOOD price on some 3/8 Warpspeed from W.M. Does anyone know what brand/size of halyard clutches CC used in '85? There is a set of double Schaefer clutches mounted outboard of the original triples, either side of the companionway, pictures I have aren't good enough to identify them and the boat is 3 hrs from here. Thanks Brad Sarnia ON 1985 CC 33 Pulse Sent, miraculously through cyberspace, from my iPad! ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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after exchanging photos with another lister, it appears that my clutches are spinlok XA's and should handle the 3/8 line adequately. It looks like there are parts available should I need to rebuild. This list is INVALUABLE for us new CC owners, thank you all. Brad 1985 CC 33 Pulse Sarnia, ON Sent, miraculously through cyberspace, from my iPad! ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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Brad, The clutches on my boat (33mkII 1987) are Easylock i think, the model that kind of look like a lewmar, with long levers of different colours... they do work with a 3/8 Line but tend to slip a little with main and jib halyards. it might be wear, but this up grade is on the list. i will go with a Spinlock XTS tripple to replace one of the bank. A Rigger told me that spinlocks were a bit more rough on lines but had more bite than the Lewmar. Bruno Becassine 33mkII new richmond, Qc Envoyé de mon iPad Le 2015-03-22 à 07:13, Paul Fountain via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com a écrit : Brad, Perception had Schaffer stoppers on her when we got her (85 CC 33-II K/CB). They were chewing the new running rigging very quickly - at the recommendation of our sailmaker we replaced them with lewmars. The lewmars need to be sized right for your lines, they have smaller ranges than most stoppers, but work well, and release easily under load. Sent from my iPad On Mar 21, 2015, at 9:42 PM, Bradley Lumgair via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Replacing the original 7/16 halyards on our 1985 CC 33 MKII. Got a GOOD price on some 3/8 Warpspeed from W.M. Does anyone know what brand/size of halyard clutches CC used in '85? There is a set of double Schaefer clutches mounted outboard of the original triples, either side of the companionway, pictures I have aren't good enough to identify them and the boat is 3 hrs from here. Thanks Brad Sarnia ON 1985 CC 33 Pulse Sent, miraculously through cyberspace, from my iPad! ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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You can help worn clutches live longer if you make it a habit to put the tail around the winch and take up tension before releasing the clutch lever, especially on the main and jib halyards which are loaded up. A friend of mine has undersized clutches and insists this procedure be followed all the time. It's worked for him for 25 years. I prefer my bigger clutches. BTW, ours are 1989, Spinlock XTS and rated for line size 5/16 to 9/16. I think the Lewmar D2 Rope Clutch is a better product, a little less money, easier on the lines, and more holding power. Chuck Resolute 1990 CC 34R Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md - Original Message - From: Brent Driedger via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: Bradley Lumgair lumg...@hotmail.com, cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2015 12:21:44 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List halyard stoppers I believe most of the stoppers installed in that vintage were Easy Locks. They are OK. Years of sunshine have likely weakened the levers. That mixed with the irritating operational requirement of never stopping a static line (I has to be moving through the stopper as its closing or it jams so hard you sometimes break the aging levers while trying to open it) I would seriously recommend changing out to newer technology. It's been on my to do list for 5 years. 3 broken levers later i'm running out of spares so I better do this soon. Brent Driedger 27-5 Lake Winnipeg. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 21, 2015, at 8:42 PM, Bradley Lumgair via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Replacing the original 7/16 halyards on our 1985 CC 33 MKII. Got a GOOD price on some 3/8 Warpspeed from W.M. Does anyone know what brand/size of halyard clutches CC used in '85? There is a set of double Schaefer clutches mounted outboard of the original triples, either side of the companionway, pictures I have aren't good enough to identify them and the boat is 3 hrs from here. Thanks Brad Sarnia ON 1985 CC 33 Pulse Sent, miraculously through cyberspace, from my iPad! ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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Bruno, take a look at the lewmar D2 clutches before you make a final decision. They have a unique series of plates which the rope runs through perpendicular. The clutch handle tilts the plates to pinch the rope. Something to consider. Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 CC 37+ Solomons, MD On Mar 22, 2015 10:48 AM, Bruno Lachance via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Brad, The clutches on my boat (33mkII 1987) are Easylock i think, the model that kind of look like a lewmar, with long levers of different colours... they do work with a 3/8 Line but tend to slip a little with main and jib halyards. it might be wear, but this up grade is on the list. i will go with a Spinlock XTS tripple to replace one of the bank. A Rigger told me that spinlocks were a bit more rough on lines but had more bite than the Lewmar. Bruno Becassine 33mkII new richmond, Qc Envoyé de mon iPad Le 2015-03-22 à 07:13, Paul Fountain via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com a écrit : Brad, Perception had Schaffer stoppers on her when we got her (85 CC 33-II K/CB). They were chewing the new running rigging very quickly - at the recommendation of our sailmaker we replaced them with lewmars. The lewmars need to be sized right for your lines, they have smaller ranges than most stoppers, but work well, and release easily under load. Sent from my iPad On Mar 21, 2015, at 9:42 PM, Bradley Lumgair via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Replacing the original 7/16 halyards on our 1985 CC 33 MKII. Got a GOOD price on some 3/8 Warpspeed from W.M. Does anyone know what brand/size of halyard clutches CC used in '85? There is a set of double Schaefer clutches mounted outboard of the original triples, either side of the companionway, pictures I have aren't good enough to identify them and the boat is 3 hrs from here. Thanks Brad Sarnia ON 1985 CC 33 Pulse Sent, miraculously through cyberspace, from my iPad! ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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I believe most of the stoppers installed in that vintage were Easy Locks. They are OK. Years of sunshine have likely weakened the levers. That mixed with the irritating operational requirement of never stopping a static line (I has to be moving through the stopper as its closing or it jams so hard you sometimes break the aging levers while trying to open it) I would seriously recommend changing out to newer technology. It's been on my to do list for 5 years. 3 broken levers later i'm running out of spares so I better do this soon. Brent Driedger 27-5 Lake Winnipeg. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 21, 2015, at 8:42 PM, Bradley Lumgair via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Replacing the original 7/16 halyards on our 1985 CC 33 MKII. Got a GOOD price on some 3/8 Warpspeed from W.M. Does anyone know what brand/size of halyard clutches CC used in '85? There is a set of double Schaefer clutches mounted outboard of the original triples, either side of the companionway, pictures I have aren't good enough to identify them and the boat is 3 hrs from here. Thanks Brad Sarnia ON 1985 CC 33 Pulse Sent, miraculously through cyberspace, from my iPad! ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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Big ditto on Lewmars. I have had two Lewmar triples on Touché for nearly 15 years. No slippage. No damage to the lines. IMHO Lewmar clutches are the BEST! Dennis C. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 22, 2015, at 6:13 AM, Paul Fountain via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Brad, Perception had Schaffer stoppers on her when we got her (85 CC 33-II K/CB). They were chewing the new running rigging very quickly - at the recommendation of our sailmaker we replaced them with lewmars. The lewmars need to be sized right for your lines, they have smaller ranges than most stoppers, but work well, and release easily under load. Sent from my iPad On Mar 21, 2015, at 9:42 PM, Bradley Lumgair via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Replacing the original 7/16 halyards on our 1985 CC 33 MKII. Got a GOOD price on some 3/8 Warpspeed from W.M. Does anyone know what brand/size of halyard clutches CC used in '85? There is a set of double Schaefer clutches mounted outboard of the original triples, either side of the companionway, pictures I have aren't good enough to identify them and the boat is 3 hrs from here. Thanks Brad Sarnia ON 1985 CC 33 Pulse Sent, miraculously through cyberspace, from my iPad! ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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BTW, I have a double Lewmar clutch rated for 12mm line in the cellar somewhere. I used it for a year on Mojito before swapping lines and clutch to the 10mm size. Tim Mojito CC 35-3 Branford, CT On Mar 22, 2015, at 12:21 PM, Brent Driedger via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I believe most of the stoppers installed in that vintage were Easy Locks. They are OK. Years of sunshine have likely weakened the levers. That mixed with the irritating operational requirement of never stopping a static line (I has to be moving through the stopper as its closing or it jams so hard you sometimes break the aging levers while trying to open it) I would seriously recommend changing out to newer technology. It's been on my to do list for 5 years. 3 broken levers later i'm running out of spares so I better do this soon. Brent Driedger 27-5 Lake Winnipeg. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 21, 2015, at 8:42 PM, Bradley Lumgair via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Replacing the original 7/16 halyards on our 1985 CC 33 MKII. Got a GOOD price on some 3/8 Warpspeed from W.M. Does anyone know what brand/size of halyard clutches CC used in '85? There is a set of double Schaefer clutches mounted outboard of the original triples, either side of the companionway, pictures I have aren't good enough to identify them and the boat is 3 hrs from here. Thanks Brad Sarnia ON 1985 CC 33 Pulse Sent, miraculously through cyberspace, from my iPad! ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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I agree Chuck, I got 8 Lewmar D2's on Alianna and they have worked flawlessly and did not damage my lines in any noticeable way for the past 8 years...I highly recommend these Dwight Veinot CC 35 MKII, *Alianna* Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS d.ve...@bellaliant.net On Sun, Mar 22, 2015 at 2:45 PM, Chuck S via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: You can help worn clutches live longer if you make it a habit to put the tail around the winch and take up tension before releasing the clutch lever, especially on the main and jib halyards which are loaded up.A friend of mine has undersized clutches and insists this procedure be followed all the time. It's worked for him for 25 years. I prefer my bigger clutches. BTW, ours are 1989, Spinlock XTS and rated for line size 5/16 to 9/16. I think the Lewmar D2 Rope Clutch is a better product, a little less money, easier on the lines, and more holding power. Chuck Resolute 1990 CC 34R Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md -- *From: *Brent Driedger via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com *To: *Bradley Lumgair lumg...@hotmail.com, cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Sent: *Sunday, March 22, 2015 12:21:44 PM *Subject: *Re: Stus-List halyard stoppers I believe most of the stoppers installed in that vintage were Easy Locks. They are OK. Years of sunshine have likely weakened the levers. That mixed with the irritating operational requirement of never stopping a static line (I has to be moving through the stopper as its closing or it jams so hard you sometimes break the aging levers while trying to open it) I would seriously recommend changing out to newer technology. It's been on my to do list for 5 years. 3 broken levers later i'm running out of spares so I better do this soon. Brent Driedger 27-5 Lake Winnipeg. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 21, 2015, at 8:42 PM, Bradley Lumgair via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Replacing the original 7/16 halyards on our 1985 CC 33 MKII. Got a GOOD price on some 3/8 Warpspeed from W.M. Does anyone know what brand/size of halyard clutches CC used in '85? There is a set of double Schaefer clutches mounted outboard of the original triples, either side of the companionway, pictures I have aren't good enough to identify them and the boat is 3 hrs from here. Thanks Brad Sarnia ON 1985 CC 33 Pulse Sent, miraculously through cyberspace, from my iPad! ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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You Guys have some strong comments about the Lewmar D2. I was skeptical because of one comment i had from a rigger that i respect a lot, even if he does not have a CC, but a first 42 is a pretty nice boat too. He was a Lewmar winch fan but a Spinlock clutches lover saying there is no point to be easier on the rope if it does not hold it! My own expérience is good with both brands. but it seems unanimous and i think i will go with the lewmar D2. should be a nice upgrade over the easylock. Thanks for the comments. Bruno Becassine, 33mkII New richmond, Qc. Envoyé de mon iPad Le 2015-03-22 à 12:09, Josh Muckley muckl...@gmail.com a écrit : Bruno, take a look at the lewmar D2 clutches before you make a final decision. They have a unique series of plates which the rope runs through perpendicular. The clutch handle tilts the plates to pinch the rope. Something to consider. Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 CC 37+ Solomons, MD On Mar 22, 2015 10:48 AM, Bruno Lachance via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Brad, The clutches on my boat (33mkII 1987) are Easylock i think, the model that kind of look like a lewmar, with long levers of different colours... they do work with a 3/8 Line but tend to slip a little with main and jib halyards. it might be wear, but this up grade is on the list. i will go with a Spinlock XTS tripple to replace one of the bank. A Rigger told me that spinlocks were a bit more rough on lines but had more bite than the Lewmar. Bruno Becassine 33mkII new richmond, Qc ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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My 1989 37+ has lewmar triples. The design hasn't changed much so find a picture on google and see if you can remember well enough what yours look like. Mine have no trouble with 5/16ths up to 1/2 inch. Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk Solomons, MD On Mar 21, 2015 9:42 PM, Bradley Lumgair via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Replacing the original 7/16 halyards on our 1985 CC 33 MKII. Got a GOOD price on some 3/8 Warpspeed from W.M. Does anyone know what brand/size of halyard clutches CC used in '85? There is a set of double Schaefer clutches mounted outboard of the original triples, either side of the companionway, pictures I have aren't good enough to identify them and the boat is 3 hrs from here. Thanks Brad Sarnia ON 1985 CC 33 Pulse Sent, miraculously through cyberspace, from my iPad! ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List halyard stoppers
Replacing the original 7/16 halyards on our 1985 CC 33 MKII. Got a GOOD price on some 3/8 Warpspeed from W.M. Does anyone know what brand/size of halyard clutches CC used in '85? There is a set of double Schaefer clutches mounted outboard of the original triples, either side of the companionway, pictures I have aren't good enough to identify them and the boat is 3 hrs from here. Thanks Brad Sarnia ON 1985 CC 33 Pulse Sent, miraculously through cyberspace, from my iPad! ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
