Stus-List registration in Canada
So i spoke to a gentleman at the registry office in Ottawa or wherever it is, and he tells me if I have the title signed over by the previous owner and something about de-registering it in Michigan I should be good to go. If you don't remember, I don't have the builders certificate for my 1985 CC 33. He was going to have someone else call me back, hasn't happened yet. Very friendly, helpful people. will follow up when I hear back. Sent, miraculously through cyberspace, from my iPad! ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List registration in Canada
The process in Canada has been centralized to Ottawa, and now done mostly by website and email. We registered rather than licenced, and our broker (Swans) aware of the process but was not knowledgeable. Transport Canada was pretty good with walking us through the process and answered most of our questions via email and phone to help us collect all the required documents. To know if your boat has been registered, check out the TC link: http://wwwapps.tc.gc.ca/saf-sec-sur/4/vrqs-srib/ Jay Message: 1 Date: Sat, 07 Mar 2015 08:09:47 -0800 From: Russ Melody russ...@telus.netmailto:russ...@telus.net To: Bradley Lumgair lumg...@hotmail.commailto:lumg...@hotmail.com,cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List registration in Canada Message-ID: mailman.8.1425747604.19919.cnc-list_cnc-list@cnc-list.commailto:mailman.8.1425747604.19919.cnc-list_cnc-list@cnc-list.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; Format=flowed Hi Brad, Do you have a Ship's Registrar nearby? We are a Port of Registry and in the old days (when I did these) each POR had a Ship's Registrar. Ours was very helpful, I still remember her name, Barb. I probably have done five boats with her before she retired. I can imagine with the centralization that service has gone way downhill. Cheers, Russ Sweet 35 mk-1 (licensed only) ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List registration in Canada
Hi Brad, Do you have a Ship's Registrar nearby? We are a Port of Registry and in the old days (when I did these) each POR had a Ship's Registrar. Ours was very helpful, I still remember her name, Barb. I probably have done five boats with her before she retired. I can imagine with the centralization that service has gone way downhill. Cheers, Russ Sweet 35 mk-1 (licensed only) At 07:47 PM 06/03/2015, you wrote: Now we're getting to the root of the problem, I don't have any info from the original purchaser, and the builder has gone bankrupt, what do I present to the govt. to prove whatever it is they are looking for? And what do these poor folks do in Florida when they land in a licensed boat (not registered) and don't have the paperwork to provide to register the boat in their home port in Canada? Thus far I haven't got the answer I need from transport Canada either, will be in contact again Monday Sent, miraculously through cyberspace, from my iPad! ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List registration in Canada
Oh yeah. One more thing. I suggest you check around with a couple of boat brokers. Some of these guys must know someone who knows their way around this landscape. Cheers, Russ At 07:47 PM 06/03/2015, you wrote: Now we're getting to the root of the problem, I don't have any info from the original purchaser, and the builder has gone bankrupt, what do I present to the govt. to prove whatever it is they are looking for? And what do these poor folks do in Florida when they land in a licensed boat (not registered) and don't have the paperwork to provide to register the boat in their home port in Canada? Thus far I haven't got the answer I need from transport Canada either, will be in contact again Monday ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List registration in Canada
Now we're getting to the root of the problem, I don't have any info from the original purchaser, and the builder has gone bankrupt, what do I present to the govt. to prove whatever it is they are looking for? And what do these poor folks do in Florida when they land in a licensed boat (not registered) and don't have the paperwork to provide to register the boat in their home port in Canada? Thus far I haven't got the answer I need from transport Canada either, will be in contact again Monday Sent, miraculously through cyberspace, from my iPad! ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Registration in Canada
Doesn't the government want the Builder's Certificate filled out by the builder for the first buyer? Can you just fill this out and hand it over even though you are the fourth or so owner? I have the builder's file from South Shore, which contains details about the boat, but has no reference to first title, just the first dealer's name. Jim Watts Paradigm Shift CC 35 Mk III Victoria, BC On 5 March 2015 at 22:29, Russ Melody via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Hi Brad The builder's certificate can be found here as a PDF: http://wwwapps.tc.gc.ca/Corp-Serv-Gen/5/Forms-Formulaires/searchrs.aspx?formnumber=84-0040 This is the info site for registering: http://www.tc.gc.ca/eng/marinesafety/oep-vesselreg-registration-menu-2311.htm#firsttime This is the home site: http://www.tc.gc.ca/eng/marinesafety/oep-vesselreg-registration-menu-2311.htm#registering Good luck. It's been so long since I've gone through the builder's path of registry that my knowledge is out of date. Cheers, Russ *Sweet *35 mk-1 At 04:30 PM 05/03/2015, you wrote: I'm sure that some of my fellow Canadians have actually registered (not licensed) their boats with the Feds. I'd appreciate some more of your generous help. What exactly are they looking for when they ask for the builders certificate? I don't see anything like that in the documentation I have. Background, 1985 CC 33 purchased in USA this winter. To the best of my knowledge it was sold new in the US. I bought from who is likely the second owner, so it is a new registration. The other question I have is concerning the tonnage, is the simplified tonnage method acceptable? Should my boat be 6.85 tons? Thank you Brad Sent, miraculously through cyberspace, from my iPad!rt ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Registration in Canada
I has to be done by the builder as far as I can tell. The form was included in the front of the CC manual that came with my boat, and included the original purchaser's name, as well as signatures by CC staff. I have been considering purchasing a boat in the U.S. for some time and have been told a lot of different answers about what you are supposed to do if the original documentation is not present. You are supposed to have title papers for entry into Bahamas for that matter. Near as I can tell, they will accept a purchase receipt in at least some circunstances, as will the U.S. government for their state licensing. The numbered licences that Transport Canada issues state very clearly that they do not constitute a title or proof of ownership. Steve Thomas CC27 MKIII Port Stanley, ON - Original Message - From: Jim Watts via CnC-List To: Russ Melody ; 1 CnC List Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 12:16 Subject: Re: Stus-List Registration in Canada Doesn't the government want the Builder's Certificate filled out by the builder for the first buyer? Can you just fill this out and hand it over even though you are the fourth or so owner? I have the builder's file from South Shore, which contains details about the boat, but has no reference to first title, just the first dealer's name. Jim Watts Paradigm Shift CC 35 Mk III Victoria, BC On 5 March 2015 at 22:29, Russ Melody via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Hi Brad The builder's certificate can be found here as a PDF: http://wwwapps.tc.gc.ca/Corp-Serv-Gen/5/Forms-Formulaires/searchrs.aspx?formnumber=84-0040 This is the info site for registering: http://www.tc.gc.ca/eng/marinesafety/oep-vesselreg-registration-menu-2311.htm#firsttime This is the home site: http://www.tc.gc.ca/eng/marinesafety/oep-vesselreg-registration-menu-2311.htm#registering Good luck. It's been so long since I've gone through the builder's path of registry that my knowledge is out of date. Cheers, Russ Sweet 35 mk-1 At 04:30 PM 05/03/2015, you wrote: I'm sure that some of my fellow Canadians have actually registered (not licensed) their boats with the Feds. I'd appreciate some more of your generous help. What exactly are they looking for when they ask for the builders certificate? I don't see anything like that in the documentation I have. Background, 1985 CC 33 purchased in USA this winter. To the best of my knowledge it was sold new in the US. I bought from who is likely the second owner, so it is a new registration. The other question I have is concerning the tonnage, is the simplified tonnage method acceptable? Should my boat be 6.85 tons? Thank you Brad Sent, miraculously through cyberspace, from my iPad!rt ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List Registration in Canada
I'm sure that some of my fellow Canadians have actually registered (not licensed) their boats with the Feds. I'd appreciate some more of your generous help. What exactly are they looking for when they ask for the builders certificate? I don't see anything like that in the documentation I have. Background, 1985 CC 33 purchased in USA this winter. To the best of my knowledge it was sold new in the US. I bought from who is likely the second owner, so it is a new registration. The other question I have is concerning the tonnage, is the simplified tonnage method acceptable? Should my boat be 6.85 tons? Thank you Brad Sent, miraculously through cyberspace, from my iPad!rt ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Registration in Canada
Hi Brad The builder's certificate can be found here as a PDF: http://wwwapps.tc.gc.ca/Corp-Serv-Gen/5/Forms-Formulaires/searchrs.aspx?formnumber=84-0040 This is the info site for registering: http://www.tc.gc.ca/eng/marinesafety/oep-vesselreg-registration-menu-2311.htm#firsttime This is the home site: http://www.tc.gc.ca/eng/marinesafety/oep-vesselreg-registration-menu-2311.htm#registering Good luck. It's been so long since I've gone through the builder's path of registry that my knowledge is out of date. Cheers, Russ Sweet 35 mk-1 At 04:30 PM 05/03/2015, you wrote: I'm sure that some of my fellow Canadians have actually registered (not licensed) their boats with the Feds. I'd appreciate some more of your generous help. What exactly are they looking for when they ask for the builders certificate? I don't see anything like that in the documentation I have. Background, 1985 CC 33 purchased in USA this winter. To the best of my knowledge it was sold new in the US. I bought from who is likely the second owner, so it is a new registration. The other question I have is concerning the tonnage, is the simplified tonnage method acceptable? Should my boat be 6.85 tons? Thank you Brad Sent, miraculously through cyberspace, from my iPad!rt ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
