Re: Simulate touch event with cordinate?

2011-04-03 Thread Jesse Armand
I'm sorry, but my opinion remains.

If someone such as Stephen Hawking (which is not mentioned that people
like him are the users) would like to read with face gestures, he
would not use an iPhone. Not even an iPad.

Unless if there's an external device that could translate all of the
gestures that these people have into touch events on the iOS.

An iOS app for people without hands would still require the help of
another person to operate the OS.

On Sat, Apr 2, 2011 at 1:52 PM, Sherm Pendley sherm.pend...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sat, Apr 2, 2011 at 7:29 AM, Jesse Armand mnemonic...@gmail.com wrote:

 But, my word of advice:
 People don't read PDFs with the gestures of their face or head. It's just 
 silly.

 Tell that to Stephen Hawking. There are cases where what seems silly
 to most of us are the only options one has left.

 sherm--

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Re: API to determine a list of installed scriptable applications

2011-04-03 Thread Peter Lübke


Am 02.04.2011 um 11:56 schrieb jonat...@mugginsoft.com:

Is there an API to determine a list of installed scriptable  
applications?


Such a list is displayed by the AppleScript Editor menu item Open  
Dictionary...


Application bundles can be queried for using MDQuery and the  
scriptability of a given application can be be determined.
I don't think that ASE uses this approach as its existence long  
predates Spotlight etc.


Also the ASE list includes items that have not been previously  
launched.


Regards

Jonathan Mitchell


The list of the applications shown in AppleScript Editor menu item  
Open Dictionary... is stored in a plist file:
home/Library/Preferences/com.apple.ScriptEditor2.plist (key:  
LibraryApplications).


I think the reason you see items that haven't been previously  
launched is that these are Apple Applications / Additions that might  
already be in the plist when the OS is installed.
Maybe you can use these as a starting point and add items to your  
own .plist file as you or your users found more scriptable apps?


 Just out of interest: how do you determine scriptability of an  
application without launching it?


Cheers,

Peter

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Re: API to determine a list of installed scriptable applications

2011-04-03 Thread jonat...@mugginsoft.com

On 3 Apr 2011, at 13:35, Peter Lübke wrote:

 
 Am 02.04.2011 um 11:56 schrieb jonat...@mugginsoft.com:
 
 Is there an API to determine a list of installed scriptable applications?
 
 Such a list is displayed by the AppleScript Editor menu item Open 
 Dictionary...
 
 Application bundles can be queried for using MDQuery and the scriptability 
 of a given application can be be determined.
 I don't think that ASE uses this approach as its existence long predates 
 Spotlight etc.
 
 Also the ASE list includes items that have not been previously launched.
 
 Regards
 
 Jonathan Mitchell
 
 The list of the applications shown in AppleScript Editor menu item Open 
 Dictionary... is stored in a plist file:
 home/Library/Preferences/com.apple.ScriptEditor2.plist (key: 
 LibraryApplications).
 
Interesting suggestion but..
On OS X 10.6.6 the LibraryApplications key is absent.
I would also prefer a more direct method than querying another app's 
preferences file.


 I think the reason you see items that haven't been previously launched is 
 that these are Apple Applications / Additions that might already be in the 
 plist when the OS is installed.
 Maybe you can use these as a starting point and add items to your own .plist 
 file as you or your users found more scriptable apps?
 
 Just out of interest: how do you determine scriptability of an application 
 without launching it?
 
(* applescript *)
tell the application Finder

set myApp to the application file Mail in the folder Applications 
in the startup disk
if has scripting terminology of myApp then
return scriptable 
else
return not scriptable 
end if
end tell

or one can query the application bundle for the .scriptsuite or .sdef resource 
files.

Regards

Jonathan Mitchell

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Re: Book for expert programmer about cocoa and Objective-C

2011-04-03 Thread Howard Siegel
Would you say to get Cocoa Programming by Anguish, Buck,  Yacktman (circa
Sept 2002), or get Cocoa Programming Developer's Handbook by David Chisnall
(circa Jan 2010), which according to Amazon is the newer version of the
book???

- h

On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 13:01, John Pannell j...@positivespinmedia.comwrote:

 Even though it is getting on in age, I really like Anguish, Buck and
 Yacktman's Cocoa Programming...


 http://www.amazon.com/Cocoa-Programming-Scott-Anguish/dp/B000212NUM/ref=sr_1_7?s=booksie=UTF8qid=1301687411sr=1-7

 Once you've completed the beginner stuff, this provides a very thorough
 look at the cocoa frameworks in a lot of depth.  It was written prior to
 some of the new frameworks (i.e. Core Data, Core Animation, etc.), but
 nothing beats it for deep coverage of the AppKit and Foundation stuff that
 every app is made of.

 HTH!

 John


 On Apr 1, 2011, at 1:40 PM, Rodrigo Zanatta Silva wrote:

  Hi. I need to have a good book in my side to program with Objective-C
 using
  the cocoa. I read the beginner books like ... for absolute beginner,
  starting to program with
 
  But now, I need a book for professional. Book that is BIG, DIFFICULT and
 is
  HARDCORE about anything for cocoa and objective-c. That show a really lot
 of
  thing. That will be my book for years.. You understand, right?
 
  Anyone can give-me an idea?
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Re: Book for expert programmer about cocoa and Objective-C

2011-04-03 Thread Luther Baker
I have and like Chisnall's book - but I wouldn't describe it as

  BIG, DIFFICULT and ... HARDCORE

I think Chisnall cover's a lot of ground - has a lot of breadth - but isn't
necessarily a deep dive into the API.

I miss a big Cocoa reference like the old
superbiblehttp://www.amazon.com/Windows-2000-SuperBible-Richard-Simon/dp/0672319330/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8s=booksqid=1301885145sr=8-2or
Rector's win32
bookhttp://www.amazon.com/Win32-Programming-Addison-Wesley-Advanced-Windows/dp/0201634929/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8s=booksqid=1301885195sr=1-1.
Those books literally walk through almost every API call with lively
descriptions and practical examples (they are also 1500 pages each).


On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 8:15 PM, Howard Siegel hsie...@gmail.com wrote:

 Would you say to get Cocoa Programming by Anguish, Buck,  Yacktman (circa
 Sept 2002), or get Cocoa Programming Developer's Handbook by David Chisnall
 (circa Jan 2010), which according to Amazon is the newer version of the
 book???

 - h

 On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 13:01, John Pannell j...@positivespinmedia.com
 wrote:

  Even though it is getting on in age, I really like Anguish, Buck and
  Yacktman's Cocoa Programming...
 
 
 
 http://www.amazon.com/Cocoa-Programming-Scott-Anguish/dp/B000212NUM/ref=sr_1_7?s=booksie=UTF8qid=1301687411sr=1-7
 
  Once you've completed the beginner stuff, this provides a very thorough
  look at the cocoa frameworks in a lot of depth.  It was written prior to
  some of the new frameworks (i.e. Core Data, Core Animation, etc.), but
  nothing beats it for deep coverage of the AppKit and Foundation stuff
 that
  every app is made of.
 
  HTH!
 
  John
 
 
  On Apr 1, 2011, at 1:40 PM, Rodrigo Zanatta Silva wrote:
 
   Hi. I need to have a good book in my side to program with Objective-C
  using
   the cocoa. I read the beginner books like ... for absolute beginner,
   starting to program with
  
   But now, I need a book for professional. Book that is BIG, DIFFICULT
 and
  is
   HARDCORE about anything for cocoa and objective-c. That show a really
 lot
  of
   thing. That will be my book for years.. You understand, right?
  
   Anyone can give-me an idea?
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Re: Book for expert programmer about cocoa and Objective-C

2011-04-03 Thread Scott Anguish
I’d second that.

On Apr 1, 2011, at 5:31 PM, Scott Ellsworth wrote:

 I am told that buck and yacktman's cocoa design patterns is a good source of
 interview questions for Cocoa
 
 On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 1:01 PM, John Pannell 
 j...@positivespinmedia.comwrote:
 
 Even though it is getting on in age, I really like Anguish, Buck and
 Yacktman's Cocoa Programming...
 
 
 http://www.amazon.com/Cocoa-Programming-Scott-Anguish/dp/B000212NUM/ref=sr_1_7?s=booksie=UTF8qid=1301687411sr=1-7
 
 Once you've completed the beginner stuff, this provides a very thorough
 look at the cocoa frameworks in a lot of depth.  It was written prior to
 some of the new frameworks (i.e. Core Data, Core Animation, etc.), but
 nothing beats it for deep coverage of the AppKit and Foundation stuff that
 every app is made of.
 
 HTH!
 
 John
 
 
 On Apr 1, 2011, at 1:40 PM, Rodrigo Zanatta Silva wrote:
 
 Hi. I need to have a good book in my side to program with Objective-C
 using
 the cocoa. I read the beginner books like ... for absolute beginner,
 starting to program with
 
 But now, I need a book for professional. Book that is BIG, DIFFICULT and
 is
 HARDCORE about anything for cocoa and objective-c. That show a really lot
 of
 thing. That will be my book for years.. You understand, right?
 
 Anyone can give-me an idea?
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Re: Book for expert programmer about cocoa and Objective-C

2011-04-03 Thread Howard Siegel
No fair You have a vested interest ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-)

- h

On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 20:49, Scott Anguish sc...@cocoadoc.com wrote:

 I’d second that.

 On Apr 1, 2011, at 5:31 PM, Scott Ellsworth wrote:

  I am told that buck and yacktman's cocoa design patterns is a good source
 of
  interview questions for Cocoa
 
  On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 1:01 PM, John Pannell j...@positivespinmedia.com
 wrote:
 
  Even though it is getting on in age, I really like Anguish, Buck and
  Yacktman's Cocoa Programming...
 
 
 
 http://www.amazon.com/Cocoa-Programming-Scott-Anguish/dp/B000212NUM/ref=sr_1_7?s=booksie=UTF8qid=1301687411sr=1-7
 
  Once you've completed the beginner stuff, this provides a very thorough
  look at the cocoa frameworks in a lot of depth.  It was written prior to
  some of the new frameworks (i.e. Core Data, Core Animation, etc.), but
  nothing beats it for deep coverage of the AppKit and Foundation stuff
 that
  every app is made of.
 
  HTH!
 
  John
 
 
  On Apr 1, 2011, at 1:40 PM, Rodrigo Zanatta Silva wrote:
 
  Hi. I need to have a good book in my side to program with Objective-C
  using
  the cocoa. I read the beginner books like ... for absolute beginner,
  starting to program with
 
  But now, I need a book for professional. Book that is BIG, DIFFICULT
 and
  is
  HARDCORE about anything for cocoa and objective-c. That show a really
 lot
  of
  thing. That will be my book for years.. You understand, right?
 
  Anyone can give-me an idea?
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Re: Book for expert programmer about cocoa and Objective-C

2011-04-03 Thread Scott Anguish
John’s kind.

A) You’d be hard pressed to find it in any form other than electronic. Even I 
only have a single copy. I think Erik hoarded the last few.
b) It is 8+ years old. A lot of it is dated in that new additional have been 
made to those classes.
c) As John said, it doesn’t cover new capabilities: No Core Animation, Core 
Data, Cocoa Animation, Spotlight, Quicklook, OpenGLES, the list is pretty log. 
I don’t recall if KVC and KVO are there, I know bindings is not. I know I’m 
missing loads more that has just become second nature material in the last 8 
years of writing docs at Apple.

Plus lots of things that can make your app stand out and incorporate into the 
OS just aren’t covered (because they weren’t there). And the lack of things 
like @property and other new Obj-C features like Blocks make it really dated. 
And I’m a co-author, by saying this I’m taking mere nothing from our mouths! 
:-) It was probably the most advanced at its time (he says widely out of 
character — and mostly due to Don and Erik — back into character), but now 
there are better options. (Although I was flattered beyond any measure when I 
saw it on an Apple engineer’s shelf and he told me he learned from it... I 
admire the heck out of this guy... if he reads this, he knows who he is)

Aaron’s books are great for starting out and getting there. 

Erik and Don’s Design Patterns is also excellent and a must read. (Read that as 
more advanced)

Bill Cheeseman has a Vermont Recipes sequel that is also excellent. Bill is 
sharp, not a dufus according to Roger Ebert (true - search the net), and a man 
I have huge respect for. His attention to detail (in particular with respect to 
accessibility) is admirable. I doubt anyone outside Apple knows more about 
accessibility than Bill.

iOS has lots more. Matt Drance’s iOS Recipes (I think?) is supposed to be 
excellent and is in beta. Matt is sharp as hell (see FlipBook) and was an 
evangelist (Apple’s loss, and I’ve told him so). I’d say he knows it all.

I’d get my butt kicked if I didn’t mention Jiiva Devoes book, but the name 
escapes me.

Someone else is working on an Xcode 4 book, and he seems to be rather clueful. 
;-)


Plus, we work very hard to get the doc to where the majority of the developers 
need it. We publish in excess of 200,000 pages a month of developer 
docuentation (and that’s a low number from my calcs)

If it isn’t what you need you have one option  TELL US. WE SERVE YOU! Sorry to 
yell. But I really want to get that across. 

YOU are our customers in this case (DevPubs). You don’t buy it, but you are the 
reason it’s done. If you need something else or something more tell us. We’ll 
do our best. The more feedback we get, the better it will get. And if it helps 
save DTS time, that they can spend on other issues. Great.

And on a personal note, thanks to Don and Erik for picking up the ball after so 
many years and writing the new book. Now maybe people will stop asking when 
there will be another version of Cocoa Programming (which, BTW, the newer book 
of the same name, also published by Sams, is not related too). 

In fact, thanks to ALL those who write books for the platform. Few other than 
Mr Hillegass are getting rich off them (and you have to keep him in cowboy hats 
:-). They’re a labor of love. 





On Apr 1, 2011, at 4:01 PM, John Pannell wrote:

 Even though it is getting on in age, I really like Anguish, Buck and 
 Yacktman's Cocoa Programming...
 
 http://www.amazon.com/Cocoa-Programming-Scott-Anguish/dp/B000212NUM/ref=sr_1_7?s=booksie=UTF8qid=1301687411sr=1-7
 
 Once you've completed the beginner stuff, this provides a very thorough look 
 at the cocoa frameworks in a lot of depth.  It was written prior to some of 
 the new frameworks (i.e. Core Data, Core Animation, etc.), but nothing beats 
 it for deep coverage of the AppKit and Foundation stuff that every app is 
 made of.
 
 HTH!
 
 John
 
 
 On Apr 1, 2011, at 1:40 PM, Rodrigo Zanatta Silva wrote:
 
 Hi. I need to have a good book in my side to program with Objective-C using
 the cocoa. I read the beginner books like ... for absolute beginner,
 starting to program with
 
 But now, I need a book for professional. Book that is BIG, DIFFICULT and is
 HARDCORE about anything for cocoa and objective-c. That show a really lot of
 thing. That will be my book for years.. You understand, right?
 
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Re: Book for expert programmer about cocoa and Objective-C

2011-04-03 Thread Scott Anguish

On Apr 2, 2011, at 4:12 PM, Max Stottrop wrote:

 I'd also recommend Cocoa Programming by Scott Anguish. But Steves 
 recommendation is a great choice, too.
 

I always clarify this. My name is first because of the “A”. Erik and Don are 
the ones who did the heaviest lifting in my opinion. 

 http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B000212NUM/ref=redir_mdp_mobile/188-2135721-8610619?ref_=sr_1_7s=booksqid=1301687411sr=1-7
 
 Am 02.04.2011 um 21:58 schrieb Steven Woolgar steven_wool...@woolsoft.com:
 
 But now, I need a book for professional. Book that is BIG, DIFFICULT and is
 HARDCORE about anything for cocoa and objective-c. That show a really lot of
 thing. That will be my book for years.. You understand, right?

More of Erik and Don’t heavy lifting.

 
 Cocoa Design Patterns:
 http://www.amazon.com/Cocoa-Design-Patterns-Erik-Buck/dp/0321535022/ref=sr_1_1?s=booksie=UTF8qid=1301774297sr=1-1
 

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Re: Book for expert programmer about cocoa and Objective-C

2011-04-03 Thread Scott Anguish

On Apr 3, 2011, at 9:15 PM, Howard Siegel wrote:

 Would you say to get Cocoa Programming by Anguish, Buck,  Yacktman (circa
 Sept 2002), or get Cocoa Programming Developer's Handbook by David Chisnall
 (circa Jan 2010), which according to Amazon is the newer version of the
 book???

It is _NOT_ the newer version of the book.

There has been no second edition.


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Re: Book for expert programmer about cocoa and Objective-C

2011-04-03 Thread Scott Anguish
We try and do that in the doc now. If it falls short, tell us, be specific, and 
constructive is possible.

On Apr 3, 2011, at 10:52 PM, Luther Baker wrote:

 I have and like Chisnall's book - but I wouldn't describe it as
 
 BIG, DIFFICULT and ... HARDCORE
 
 I think Chisnall cover's a lot of ground - has a lot of breadth - but isn't
 necessarily a deep dive into the API.
 
 I miss a big Cocoa reference like the old
 superbiblehttp://www.amazon.com/Windows-2000-SuperBible-Richard-Simon/dp/0672319330/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8s=booksqid=1301885145sr=8-2or
 Rector's win32
 bookhttp://www.amazon.com/Win32-Programming-Addison-Wesley-Advanced-Windows/dp/0201634929/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8s=booksqid=1301885195sr=1-1.
 Those books literally walk through almost every API call with lively
 descriptions and practical examples (they are also 1500 pages each).

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Re: Book for expert programmer about cocoa and Objective-C

2011-04-03 Thread Dave DeLong
Having been an avid reader of his blog, I highly recommend Mike Ash's The 
Complete Friday QA: Volume 1, though I'm not sure if it's available in 
printed form:

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B004KZQ0LO

Dave

On Apr 1, 2011, at 1:40 PM, Rodrigo Zanatta Silva wrote:

 Hi. I need to have a good book in my side to program with Objective-C using
 the cocoa. I read the beginner books like ... for absolute beginner,
 starting to program with
 
 But now, I need a book for professional. Book that is BIG, DIFFICULT and is
 HARDCORE about anything for cocoa and objective-c. That show a really lot of
 thing. That will be my book for years.. You understand, right?
 
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Re: Book for expert programmer about cocoa and Objective-C

2011-04-03 Thread Scott Anguish
No, not at all. 

I had nothing to do with the book. I didn’t even get a pre-release copy to 
read. I even bought my copy. (Although I think Erik offered to send me one)

I try desperately not to read third party books that cover areas I do until 
I’ve done so. I don’t want to be influenced, even by accident as far as their 
approach.

Erik and Don wrote the entire thing. Both of them are absolutely brilliant and 
have DEEP histories in the NeXT and OpenStep communities, not to mention that 
both wrote huge amounts of free Cocoa content for the (now defunct) Stepwise 
site. Sigh. Heart breaks.

My only connection with the book was I registered the domain and then the blog 
for them because Erik knows Cocoa, but is a wee bit light on the web stuff. :-) 
After that they took all that over and it’s in their hands.



On Apr 3, 2011, at 11:59 PM, Howard Siegel wrote:

 No fair You have a vested interest ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-)
 
 - h
 
 On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 20:49, Scott Anguish sc...@cocoadoc.com wrote:
 
 I’d second that.
 
 On Apr 1, 2011, at 5:31 PM, Scott Ellsworth wrote:
 
 I am told that buck and yacktman's cocoa design patterns is a good source
 of
 interview questions for Cocoa
 
 On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 1:01 PM, John Pannell j...@positivespinmedia.com
 wrote:
 
 Even though it is getting on in age, I really like Anguish, Buck and
 Yacktman's Cocoa Programming...
 
 
 
 http://www.amazon.com/Cocoa-Programming-Scott-Anguish/dp/B000212NUM/ref=sr_1_7?s=booksie=UTF8qid=1301687411sr=1-7
 
 Once you've completed the beginner stuff, this provides a very thorough
 look at the cocoa frameworks in a lot of depth.  It was written prior to
 some of the new frameworks (i.e. Core Data, Core Animation, etc.), but
 nothing beats it for deep coverage of the AppKit and Foundation stuff
 that
 every app is made of.
 
 HTH!
 
 John
 
 
 On Apr 1, 2011, at 1:40 PM, Rodrigo Zanatta Silva wrote:
 
 Hi. I need to have a good book in my side to program with Objective-C
 using
 the cocoa. I read the beginner books like ... for absolute beginner,
 starting to program with
 
 But now, I need a book for professional. Book that is BIG, DIFFICULT
 and
 is
 HARDCORE about anything for cocoa and objective-c. That show a really
 lot
 of
 thing. That will be my book for years.. You understand, right?
 
 Anyone can give-me an idea?
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Re: Simulate touch event with cordinate?

2011-04-03 Thread Scott Anguish
Danger, drifting into accessibility. That’s another list. :-)

On Apr 3, 2011, at 6:15 AM, Jesse Armand wrote:

 I'm sorry, but my opinion remains.
 
 If someone such as Stephen Hawking (which is not mentioned that people
 like him are the users) would like to read with face gestures, he
 would not use an iPhone. Not even an iPad.
 
 Unless if there's an external device that could translate all of the
 gestures that these people have into touch events on the iOS.
 
 An iOS app for people without hands would still require the help of
 another person to operate the OS.
 
 On Sat, Apr 2, 2011 at 1:52 PM, Sherm Pendley sherm.pend...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sat, Apr 2, 2011 at 7:29 AM, Jesse Armand mnemonic...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 But, my word of advice:
 People don't read PDFs with the gestures of their face or head. It's just 
 silly.
 
 Tell that to Stephen Hawking. There are cases where what seems silly
 to most of us are the only options one has left.

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Re: Book for expert programmer about cocoa and Objective-C

2011-04-03 Thread Max Stottrop
OK, I'll keep this in mind. I just saw your name at Amazon, so i thought you'd 
be the author.

Am 04.04.2011 um 06:18 schrieb Scott Anguish sc...@cocoadoc.com:

 
 On Apr 2, 2011, at 4:12 PM, Max Stottrop wrote:
 
 I'd also recommend Cocoa Programming by Scott Anguish. But Steves 
 recommendation is a great choice, too.
 
 
 I always clarify this. My name is first because of the “A”. Erik and Don are 
 the ones who did the heaviest lifting in my opinion. 
 
 http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B000212NUM/ref=redir_mdp_mobile/188-2135721-8610619?ref_=sr_1_7s=booksqid=1301687411sr=1-7
 
 Am 02.04.2011 um 21:58 schrieb Steven Woolgar steven_wool...@woolsoft.com:
 
 But now, I need a book for professional. Book that is BIG, DIFFICULT and is
 HARDCORE about anything for cocoa and objective-c. That show a really lot 
 of
 thing. That will be my book for years.. You understand, right?
 
 More of Erik and Don’t heavy lifting.
 
 
 Cocoa Design Patterns:
 http://www.amazon.com/Cocoa-Design-Patterns-Erik-Buck/dp/0321535022/ref=sr_1_1?s=booksie=UTF8qid=1301774297sr=1-1
 
 
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