Re: Drawing customized window
Corbin, is it possible to make the background color pattern image stretch the picture across the window, instead of repeating it?. If not, is dealing with borderless window the only way to get this functionality (like, having a custom colored title bar, and white title bar text)? Thank you 2012/11/1 Nick eveningn...@gmail.com Thanks Corbin, it works great (unfortunately I can't draw the gradient depending on the window size (so it's always white on top and black on bottom, no matter how high the window is, for example), but I guess that still gives possibilities for skinning).. I will join the Iain's question.. Is it possible to somehow alter the color of the title text? Or at least set the title to @, and draw manually NSAttributedString in that title area? 2012/11/1 iain i...@sleepfive.com Hi Corbin, sorry for semi-hijacking the thread On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 8:17 PM, Corbin Dunn corb...@apple.com wrote: I am wondering if anyone created customized windows like this or reverse engineered this NSThemeFrame? Maybe there are any articles on the internet that I have missed (actually the link I gave in the beginning is the only one I have found on this topic). Somehow Apple's iCalendar works pretty fast on 10.7, while my app doesn't.. Calendar uses the public API of setBackgroundColor: on the window, and sets it to a pattern color. That is it. When you use setBackgroundColor: on the window, is there a way to get the titlebar text to draw in a different colour? When you set the background to a dark colour, the titlebar text is still drawn dark with a light highlight so it looks quite bad. thanks, iain ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Drawing customized window
On Oct 31, 2012, at 7:25 PM, Nick eveningn...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Corbin, it works great (unfortunately I can't draw the gradient depending on the window size (so it's always white on top and black on bottom, no matter how high the window is, for example), but I guess that still gives possibilities for skinning).. I will join the Iain's question.. Is it possible to somehow alter the color of the title text? Or at least set the title to @, and draw manually NSAttributedString in that title area? No; there is no way to customize the title; please log a bug requesting the ability to do this. corbin 2012/11/1 iain i...@sleepfive.com Hi Corbin, sorry for semi-hijacking the thread On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 8:17 PM, Corbin Dunn corb...@apple.com wrote: I am wondering if anyone created customized windows like this or reverse engineered this NSThemeFrame? Maybe there are any articles on the internet that I have missed (actually the link I gave in the beginning is the only one I have found on this topic). Somehow Apple's iCalendar works pretty fast on 10.7, while my app doesn't.. Calendar uses the public API of setBackgroundColor: on the window, and sets it to a pattern color. That is it. When you use setBackgroundColor: on the window, is there a way to get the titlebar text to draw in a different colour? When you set the background to a dark colour, the titlebar text is still drawn dark with a light highlight so it looks quite bad. thanks, iain ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Drawing customized window
hi nick, No; you can't stretch it, but you can create a pattern image that is tall, and appears to repeat or stretch. Other than that, the only official way to customize a window is via a borderless custom window. However, please do log bugs requesting that AppKit provide an easy way to customize windows. It is good to hear from developers that they want this functionality. corbin On Nov 1, 2012, at 7:35 AM, Nick eveningn...@gmail.com wrote: Corbin, is it possible to make the background color pattern image stretch the picture across the window, instead of repeating it?. If not, is dealing with borderless window the only way to get this functionality (like, having a custom colored title bar, and white title bar text)? Thank you 2012/11/1 Nick eveningn...@gmail.com Thanks Corbin, it works great (unfortunately I can't draw the gradient depending on the window size (so it's always white on top and black on bottom, no matter how high the window is, for example), but I guess that still gives possibilities for skinning).. I will join the Iain's question.. Is it possible to somehow alter the color of the title text? Or at least set the title to @, and draw manually NSAttributedString in that title area? 2012/11/1 iain i...@sleepfive.com Hi Corbin, sorry for semi-hijacking the thread On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 8:17 PM, Corbin Dunn corb...@apple.com wrote: I am wondering if anyone created customized windows like this or reverse engineered this NSThemeFrame? Maybe there are any articles on the internet that I have missed (actually the link I gave in the beginning is the only one I have found on this topic). Somehow Apple's iCalendar works pretty fast on 10.7, while my app doesn't.. Calendar uses the public API of setBackgroundColor: on the window, and sets it to a pattern color. That is it. When you use setBackgroundColor: on the window, is there a way to get the titlebar text to draw in a different colour? When you set the background to a dark colour, the titlebar text is still drawn dark with a light highlight so it looks quite bad. thanks, iain ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Drawing customized window
Done; rdar://12617674 I also included a suggestion for a hasDarkBackground flag that'll switch to buttons like QuickTime Player uses because the shadow on the default ones looks weird on dark backgrounds. On Nov 1, 2012, at 11:12 AM, Corbin Dunn wrote: hi nick, No; you can't stretch it, but you can create a pattern image that is tall, and appears to repeat or stretch. Other than that, the only official way to customize a window is via a borderless custom window. However, please do log bugs requesting that AppKit provide an easy way to customize windows. It is good to hear from developers that they want this functionality. corbin On Nov 1, 2012, at 7:35 AM, Nick eveningn...@gmail.com wrote: Corbin, is it possible to make the background color pattern image stretch the picture across the window, instead of repeating it?. If not, is dealing with borderless window the only way to get this functionality (like, having a custom colored title bar, and white title bar text)? Thank you 2012/11/1 Nick eveningn...@gmail.com Thanks Corbin, it works great (unfortunately I can't draw the gradient depending on the window size (so it's always white on top and black on bottom, no matter how high the window is, for example), but I guess that still gives possibilities for skinning).. I will join the Iain's question.. Is it possible to somehow alter the color of the title text? Or at least set the title to @, and draw manually NSAttributedString in that title area? 2012/11/1 iain i...@sleepfive.com Hi Corbin, sorry for semi-hijacking the thread On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 8:17 PM, Corbin Dunn corb...@apple.com wrote: I am wondering if anyone created customized windows like this or reverse engineered this NSThemeFrame? Maybe there are any articles on the internet that I have missed (actually the link I gave in the beginning is the only one I have found on this topic). Somehow Apple's iCalendar works pretty fast on 10.7, while my app doesn't.. Calendar uses the public API of setBackgroundColor: on the window, and sets it to a pattern color. That is it. When you use setBackgroundColor: on the window, is there a way to get the titlebar text to draw in a different colour? When you set the background to a dark colour, the titlebar text is still drawn dark with a light highlight so it looks quite bad. thanks, iain ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/lrucker%40vmware.com This email sent to lruc...@vmware.com ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Drawing customized window
Forgot to add, the slowness on 10.7/10.8 can be seen in Activity monitor during video playback (I am playing a QTMovie onto QTMovieLayer). While QuickTime player takes 30%, my app takes up to 100% of the CPU power to play the same video.. That's where I checked the app using Instruments - I am getting 30-40% of time spent in QuickTime decoding functions, and the rest of the time - deep inside RunLoop... It is slow like that only on Lion and Moutain Lion. As soon as comment out this methods swizzling (that lets me to draw a customized window NSThemeFrame), the performance increases significantly.. Why might this happen? 2012/10/31 Nick eveningn...@gmail.com Hello I am attempting to create an application with custom looking windows (similar to new iCalendar on mountain lion, or QuickTime player). I am targeting systems from Snow Leopard to Mountain Lion. So far I've been customizing the window using the idea described at http://parmanoir.com/Custom_NSThemeFrame (basically I set the window to be Textured, and swizzle the draw Rect method of the [[window contentView] superview] (which is an instance of NSThemeFrame), then draw some nice gradient in that new drawRect implementation, and a custom gradiented toolbar. The advantage of this method is that I do not have to bother with resizing (even the resizing mark in the bottom right corner is drawn automatically) and manually drawing titlebar buttons (albeit they have a gray shadow, despite i need a black one). Another advantage is that NSToolbar works normally with it, and looks nicely with this customly drawn theme frame. This works fine on Leopard and Snow Leopard, but not on Lion/Mountain Lion. Somehow, the application becomes very slow there (Instruments says that the application spends a whole bunch of time in some timer event somewhere deep in the AppKit, even though I do not use any timers in my app). Apart from the windows, on Lion/ML the sheets and the panels get this custom drawn background with a titlebar. I am wondering if anyone created customized windows like this or reverse engineered this NSThemeFrame? Maybe there are any articles on the internet that I have missed (actually the link I gave in the beginning is the only one I have found on this topic). Somehow Apple's iCalendar works pretty fast on 10.7, while my app doesn't.. If there's no way to fix this for 10.7/10.8, I guess I will have to draw my windows from scratch using NSBorderlessWindowMask, but I think it is very difficult to completely mimic the original window's behavior: borderless windows do not support NSToolBar (i.e., I have to create my own one from scratch), on different OS the windows look/behave differently (10.6 - large titlebar buttons, resizing only using right-bottom corner, while 10.7 and 10.8 - small titlebar buttons, resizing using any edge), etc.. Thank you, Nicolas ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Drawing customized window
On Oct 31, 2012, at 8:50 AM, Nick eveningn...@gmail.com wrote: I am wondering if anyone created customized windows like this or reverse engineered this NSThemeFrame? Chrome does tricks like this; there’s some really ugly code to hack the window frame drawing to support its custom tabs. It’s been a while since I was in that code so I don’t remember exactly what file to look in, though. All I can suggest is to check out the Chromium sources and start grepping for likely keywords like NSThemeFrame (or NSGrayFrame IIRC). —Jens ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Drawing customized window
On Oct 31, 2012, at 8:50 AM, Nick eveningn...@gmail.com wrote: Hello I am attempting to create an application with custom looking windows (similar to new iCalendar on mountain lion, or QuickTime player). I am targeting systems from Snow Leopard to Mountain Lion. So far I've been customizing the window using the idea described at http://parmanoir.com/Custom_NSThemeFrame (basically I set the window to be Textured, and swizzle the drawRect method of the [[window contentView] superview] (which is an instance of NSThemeFrame), then draw some nice gradient in that new drawRect implementation, and a custom gradiented toolbar. The advantage of this method is that I do not have to bother with resizing (even the resizing mark in the bottom right corner is drawn automatically) and manually drawing titlebar buttons (albeit they have a gray shadow, despite i need a black one). Another advantage is that NSToolbar works normally with it, and looks nicely with this customly drawn theme frame. Don't swizzle the theme frame drawRect: -- that won't always work (as you noticed) and isn't supported. This works fine on Leopard and Snow Leopard, but not on Lion/Mountain Lion. Somehow, the application becomes very slow there (Instruments says that the application spends a whole bunch of time in some timer event somewhere deep in the AppKit, even though I do not use any timers in my app). Apart from the windows, on Lion/ML the sheets and the panels get this custom drawn background with a titlebar. I am wondering if anyone created customized windows like this or reverse engineered this NSThemeFrame? Maybe there are any articles on the internet that I have missed (actually the link I gave in the beginning is the only one I have found on this topic). Somehow Apple's iCalendar works pretty fast on 10.7, while my app doesn't.. Calendar uses the public API of setBackgroundColor: on the window, and sets it to a pattern color. That is it. corbin If there's no way to fix this for 10.7/10.8, I guess I will have to draw my windows from scratch using NSBorderlessWindowMask, but I think it is very difficult to completely mimic the original window's behavior: borderless windows do not support NSToolBar (i.e., I have to create my own one from scratch), on different OS the windows look/behave differently (10.6 - large titlebar buttons, resizing only using right-bottom corner, while 10.7 and 10.8 - small titlebar buttons, resizing using any edge), etc.. Thank you, Nicolas ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/corbind%40apple.com This email sent to corb...@apple.com ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Drawing customized window
Thanks Corbin, it works great (unfortunately I can't draw the gradient depending on the window size (so it's always white on top and black on bottom, no matter how high the window is, for example), but I guess that still gives possibilities for skinning).. I will join the Iain's question.. Is it possible to somehow alter the color of the title text? Or at least set the title to @, and draw manually NSAttributedString in that title area? 2012/11/1 iain i...@sleepfive.com Hi Corbin, sorry for semi-hijacking the thread On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 8:17 PM, Corbin Dunn corb...@apple.com wrote: I am wondering if anyone created customized windows like this or reverse engineered this NSThemeFrame? Maybe there are any articles on the internet that I have missed (actually the link I gave in the beginning is the only one I have found on this topic). Somehow Apple's iCalendar works pretty fast on 10.7, while my app doesn't.. Calendar uses the public API of setBackgroundColor: on the window, and sets it to a pattern color. That is it. When you use setBackgroundColor: on the window, is there a way to get the titlebar text to draw in a different colour? When you set the background to a dark colour, the titlebar text is still drawn dark with a light highlight so it looks quite bad. thanks, iain ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Drawing customized window
Hi Corbin, sorry for semi-hijacking the thread On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 8:17 PM, Corbin Dunn corb...@apple.com wrote: I am wondering if anyone created customized windows like this or reverse engineered this NSThemeFrame? Maybe there are any articles on the internet that I have missed (actually the link I gave in the beginning is the only one I have found on this topic). Somehow Apple's iCalendar works pretty fast on 10.7, while my app doesn't.. Calendar uses the public API of setBackgroundColor: on the window, and sets it to a pattern color. That is it. When you use setBackgroundColor: on the window, is there a way to get the titlebar text to draw in a different colour? When you set the background to a dark colour, the titlebar text is still drawn dark with a light highlight so it looks quite bad. thanks, iain ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
