Re: Servlet generator, help needed
Quoting Jean-Marc Borer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello guys, I am new to Cocoon, but not to web application development and XML. We are currently evaluating Cocoon to see if it fits out needs. We develop web applications based on servlets. In a MVC (model view controller) model, we expect to use servlets as controllers, Cocoon for the view and we have our own database layer for the model. Our servlets are responsible to produce the XML (from information extracted of the database) and tranmit it to the Cocoon pipeline for the rendition. However our static pages will be written in XML and processed by Cocoon in the usual way. What is the best way to implement this? Subclass the ServletGenerator class and build our owns? No, Cocoon was not build to be used that way. Best is you rewrite your servlet as Actions and put it at the begining of your pipeline definitions in the sitemap. Giacomo Thanks in advance for any help. Cheers, Jean-Marc Borer Solution center Engineer InfoDesign Communications - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faqs.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faqs.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Servlet generator, help needed
On Thu, 19 Jul 2001 17:21:52 +0200 (CEST), Giacomo Pati [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- Quoting Jean-Marc Borer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello guys, I am new to Cocoon, but not to web application development and XML. We are currently evaluating Cocoon to see if it fits out needs. We develop web applications based on servlets. In a MVC (model view controller) model, we expect to use servlets as controllers, Cocoon for the view and we have our own database layer for the model. Our servlets are responsible to produce the XML (from information extracted of the database) and tranmit it to the Cocoon pipeline for the rendition. However our static pages will be written in XML and processed by Cocoon in the usual way. What is the best way to implement this? Subclass the ServletGenerator class and build our owns? No, Cocoon was not build to be used that way. Best is you rewrite your servlet as Actions and put it at the begining of your pipeline definitions in the sitemap. Why not? Why can't the servlets be used as Generators, and feed cocoon like any other generator? Cocoon can be used as a complete solution, but I see no valid reason to avoid using (part of) it as a presentation layer. With aggregation and caching, it's probably the best software out there for the job. I don't know if there is a Servlet Generator, but that's another totally different story. Giacomo Thanks in advance for any help. Cheers, Jean-Marc Borer Solution center Engineer InfoDesign Communications - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faqs.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faqs.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Sergio Carvalho --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faqs.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Servlet generator, help needed
Sergio Carvalho wrote: On Thu, 19 Jul 2001 17:21:52 +0200 (CEST), Giacomo Pati [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- Quoting Jean-Marc Borer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello guys, I am new to Cocoon, but not to web application development and XML. We are currently evaluating Cocoon to see if it fits out needs. We develop web applications based on servlets. In a MVC (model view controller) model, we expect to use servlets as controllers, Cocoon for the view and we have our own database layer for the model. Our servlets are responsible to produce the XML (from information extracted of the database) and tranmit it to the Cocoon pipeline for the rendition. However our static pages will be written in XML and processed by Cocoon in the usual way. What is the best way to implement this? Subclass the ServletGenerator class and build our owns? No, Cocoon was not build to be used that way. Best is you rewrite your servlet as Actions and put it at the begining of your pipeline definitions in the sitemap. Why not? Why can't the servlets be used as Generators, and feed cocoon like any other generator? Cocoon can be used as a complete solution, but I see no valid reason to avoid using (part of) it as a presentation layer. With aggregation and caching, it's probably the best software out there for the job. I absolutely agree. You not only benefit from caching, converting, multiple output and sitemap, but you can also mix static (XML pages) and dynamic content (application/servlet output) and maange their rendition through Cocoon. That why I wanted to know if anyone ever tried to use the Cocoon that way. I don't know if there is a Servlet Generator, but that's another totally different story. In fact, yes there is a ServletGenerator class, but it is not documented at all... Anyone tried to use it? Giacomo Thanks in advance for any help. Cheers, Jean-Marc Borer Solution center Engineer InfoDesign Communications - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faqs.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faqs.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Sergio Carvalho --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faqs.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faqs.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Servlet generator, help needed
Sergio, Just use the URLGenerator to read the XML stream via a URL and feed it to Cocoon2. Thanks, dims --- Sergio Carvalho [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 19 Jul 2001 17:21:52 +0200 (CEST), Giacomo Pati [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- Quoting Jean-Marc Borer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello guys, I am new to Cocoon, but not to web application development and XML. We are currently evaluating Cocoon to see if it fits out needs. We develop web applications based on servlets. In a MVC (model view controller) model, we expect to use servlets as controllers, Cocoon for the view and we have our own database layer for the model. Our servlets are responsible to produce the XML (from information extracted of the database) and tranmit it to the Cocoon pipeline for the rendition. However our static pages will be written in XML and processed by Cocoon in the usual way. What is the best way to implement this? Subclass the ServletGenerator class and build our owns? No, Cocoon was not build to be used that way. Best is you rewrite your servlet as Actions and put it at the begining of your pipeline definitions in the sitemap. Why not? Why can't the servlets be used as Generators, and feed cocoon like any other generator? Cocoon can be used as a complete solution, but I see no valid reason to avoid using (part of) it as a presentation layer. With aggregation and caching, it's probably the best software out there for the job. I don't know if there is a Servlet Generator, but that's another totally different story. Giacomo Thanks in advance for any help. Cheers, Jean-Marc Borer Solution center Engineer InfoDesign Communications - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faqs.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faqs.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Sergio Carvalho --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faqs.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Davanum Srinivas, JNI-FAQ Manager http://www.jGuru.com/faq/JNI __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faqs.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Servlet generator, help needed
Thanks dims. It was not me asking, but Jean-Marc Borer. I was just surprised at how strongly Giacomo discouraged using Cocoon as a presentation engine. I use Cocoon that way with Jsp pages. Its a great way to convert legacy apps, decoupling presentation. On the other hand, I didn't know about URLGenerator. Living and learning. On Thu, 19 Jul 2001 09:24:30 -0700 (PDT), Davanum Srinivas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- Sergio, Just use the URLGenerator to read the XML stream via a URL and feed it to Cocoon2. Thanks, dims -- Sergio Carvalho --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faqs.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Servlet generator, help needed
On Thu, 19 Jul 2001, Sergio Carvalho wrote: Thanks dims. It was not me asking, but Jean-Marc Borer. I was just surprised at how strongly Giacomo discouraged using Cocoon as a presentation engine. I use Cocoon that way with Jsp pages. Its a great way to convert legacy apps, decoupling presentation. Because experience of other projects (jetspeed) using cocoon the other way around as a template/rendering engine failed because of the complexity. The right approach to use cocoon is to have it run as it is and put your logic into components available for use (Actions, Generators or Transformer) or use custom ones like Jsp-/URLGenerator. Giacomo On the other hand, I didn't know about URLGenerator. Living and learning. On Thu, 19 Jul 2001 09:24:30 -0700 (PDT), Davanum Srinivas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- Sergio, Just use the URLGenerator to read the XML stream via a URL and feed it to Cocoon2. Thanks, dims -- Sergio Carvalho --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faqs.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faqs.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
