[Coder-Com] gline uworld command doesn't require to be authed

2002-04-12 Thread Chojin

Hello,

I noticed an ircop can do /msg uworld gline ... with authed to uworld, but
he can't remgline or anything as not authed.
Is that a bug ?

--
Chojin




[Coder-Com] new /whois line backwards?

2002-04-12 Thread Valcor

Hi,

Just been looking on amsterdam.nl.eu.undernet.org, and noticed the new
ACCOUNT  reply  in  the  /whois,  but  it  seems  to be backwards. For
example:

••• Valcor is ~[EMAIL PROTECTED]
••• Valcor is «Jonathan Angliss»
••• Valcor on Amsterdam.NL.EU.undernet.org
••• Valcor Valcor is logged in as
••• Valcor on @#help-ops, @#help, @#canadian, @#greensward
••• Valcor idle 0 s, signed on «Fri 12th Apr 2002 09:58a»

That is the mirc result, and I know I'm running PnP with my mirc, so I
thought it might be that, but I tried from BitchX at home, and got
this result:

ÚÄ---Ä--ÄÄ-ÄÄ---Ä--ÄÄ-Ä--- --  -
| Valcor (~[EMAIL PROTECTED]) (unknown)
³ ircname  : Jonathan Angliss
| channels : @#help @#canadian @#greensward 
³ server   : *.undernet.org (The Undernet Underworld)
ùíù Valcor Valcor  is logged in as

It seems the username is either in the wrong order, or the text is
worded backwards... or is this just me?  Just to make 100% sure it
wasn't a script, I got somebody else that was using a non-scripted
version of mirc to /whois me...

Valcor is ~[EMAIL PROTECTED] * Jonathan Angliss
Valcor on @#help @#canadian @#greensward
Valcor using *.undernet.org The Undernet Underworld
Valcor End of /WHOIS list.
-
Valcor Valcor is logged in as

Am I seeing wrong?

- Valcor





Re: [Coder-Com] new /whois line backwards?

2002-04-12 Thread Lee H

At 17:04 12/04/2002, you wrote:
>Hi,
>
>Just been looking on amsterdam.nl.eu.undernet.org, and noticed the new
>ACCOUNT  reply  in  the  /whois,  but  it  seems  to be backwards. For
>example:
>
>••• Valcor is ~[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>••• Valcor is «Jonathan Angliss»
>••• Valcor on Amsterdam.NL.EU.undernet.org
>••• Valcor Valcor is logged in as
>••• Valcor on @#help-ops, @#help, @#canadian, @#greensward
>••• Valcor idle 0 s, signed on «Fri 12th Apr 2002 09:58a»

Its not backwards.  In the replies to a whois, the parameters are given 
first and the text/description is given last.  This allows clients and 
server admins to change "is logged in as" to whatever they want, as the 
information needed is always in the first parameter, the rest just contains 
a description text.

Its done the same way for idle and signon, the reply is:
:server 317 source target (idletime) (signontime) :seconds idle, signon time


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- Lee H  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  //  fl_ @ ircnet
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- Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain, and most fools do.
-- Benjamin Franklin




Re: [Coder-Com] new /whois line backwards?

2002-04-12 Thread Kev

> Just been looking on amsterdam.nl.eu.undernet.org, and noticed the new
> ACCOUNT  reply  in  the  /whois,  but  it  seems  to be backwards. For
> example:

The reply is actually technically:

:Amsterdam.NL.EU.undernet.org 330 Valcor Valcor Valcor :is logged in as

(Assuming you did the /whois on yourself, which should be the only way
you can get the type of response you saw.)

Now the first "Valcor" is simply the requestor's nickname.  The second
one is the target of the /whois.  The third is the account name.  The
last argument is where it is intentionally.  This order makes it easier
to parse the reply message for the username.  This is also consistent
with other elements of the /whois reply: 313 ("is an IRC Operator")
and 317 (idle time and sign-on time).  This allows another network
(say) to change the "is logged in as" portion of the reply without
messing up scripts.

Until the clients incorporate support for this numeric, it'll either
look a little funny, or you'll have to use a script to reorder the
reply for human ordering.  I'm personally against reordering the reply
in the server code because of the benefits I've already mentioned...
-- 
Kevin L. Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>




Re: [Coder-Com] new /whois line backwards?

2002-04-12 Thread Valcor

Hi Kev,

That  cleared it up... thanks... you'll have to excuse my knowledge...
I'm just starting to understand the code a little better, although not
a  coder  myself  (at least not this language)... I'm starting to pick
more things up.

- Valcor



-Original Message-
From: Kev [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002
To: Valcor [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Coder-Com] new /whois line backwards?
--

>> Just been looking on amsterdam.nl.eu.undernet.org, and noticed the new
>> ACCOUNT  reply  in  the  /whois,  but  it  seems  to be backwards. For
>> example:

> The reply is actually technically:

> :Amsterdam.NL.EU.undernet.org 330 Valcor Valcor Valcor :is logged in as

> (Assuming you did the /whois on yourself, which should be the only way
> you can get the type of response you saw.)

> Now the first "Valcor" is simply the requestor's nickname.  The second
> one is the target of the /whois.  The third is the account name.  The
> last argument is where it is intentionally.  This order makes it easier
> to parse the reply message for the username.  This is also consistent
> with other elements of the /whois reply: 313 ("is an IRC Operator")
> and 317 (idle time and sign-on time).  This allows another network
> (say) to change the "is logged in as" portion of the reply without
> messing up scripts.

> Until the clients incorporate support for this numeric, it'll either
> look a little funny, or you'll have to use a script to reorder the
> reply for human ordering.  I'm personally against reordering the reply
> in the server code because of the benefits I've already mentioned...


--End of Message--





Re: [Coder-Com] new /whois line backwards?

2002-04-12 Thread James Evans

Yes, for future reference, you can easily sniff everything that mIRC 
sends to the server and gets back by doing:
/debug on

It's recorded to a file in your mirc directory, debug.log. Make sure to 
turn it off quickly though or you'll get a huge log building up.

I've submitted this as a bug report to mIRC, as well as its lack of 
support for /userIP, numeric 307. It seems to just echo that back too.
(BTW, does 2.10.11 with host hiding make it so /useip and /userhost 
doesn't work anymore in case the host is hidden?)

Is Undernet routinely in touch with the authors of the major IRC clients 
to let them know of new support which must be added?

-- 
James Evans
aut viam inveniam aut faciam
PGP? http://www.lehigh.edu/~jae7/pgpkey.txt




Re: [Coder-Com] new /whois line backwards?

2002-04-12 Thread Kev

> I've submitted this as a bug report to mIRC, as well as its lack of 
> support for /userIP, numeric 307. It seems to just echo that back too.

Which, by the way, was changed--at Khaled's request, even.  It's now 340.

> (BTW, does 2.10.11 with host hiding make it so /useip and /userhost 
> doesn't work anymore in case the host is hidden?)

Just changes the apparent IP to 127.0.0.1 and the apparent hostname to
.users.undernet.org--the latter string is configurable via the
features subsystem.
-- 
Kevin L. Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>




Re: [Coder-Com] new /whois line backwards?

2002-04-12 Thread reed

Both the IP 127.0.0.1 and the users.undernet.org can be changed. Vampire just added 
HIDDEN_IP feature so you can change the ip (127.0.0.1) in conf. To change the 
users.undernet.org, just edit HIDDEN_HOST in your F-Lines (Feature Lines).


Just changes the apparent IP to 127.0.0.1 and the apparent hostname to
.users.undernet.org--the latter string is configurable via the
features subsystem.


~reed
UnderNet Spelling/Grammar Checker
UnderNet Coder Committee Odd Guy
Planetarion VirusFix Member/Helper/BotAdmin
cyclebot Project Administrator



Re: [Coder-Com] new /whois line backwards?

2002-04-12 Thread Alex Badea

begin quote from James Evans on Apr 12, 2002:

> (BTW, does 2.10.11 with host hiding make it so /useip and /userhost 
> doesn't work anymore in case the host is hidden?)

If you have a hidden host, /userhost just reports that one (like /whois)
and /userip reports a configurable fake, defaulting to 127.0.0.1 :)

-- 
Alex Badea * Undernet Coder-Com contributer




[Coder-Com] Sugestion..

2002-04-12 Thread MiTNiCk

today .. i helping user on #cservice .. and anyone stoled your 
password .. and then .. he go to "Forgotten Pass" to receive a "New 
Pass" .. then he received the pass .. more when he tried to login a 
username he get a error.. +- so "X- auth failed(max login is 1) i 
dont remember the msg sure" then because who stoled your username 
make login in seu username and seted the max logins 1. so he cant 
login to  your username for change a pass, then we need a kill the 
people who using your username for he login again to your username .. 
so .." Think .. is have many peoples the same error? .. need kill 
all? " .. i think maybe is to creat a new command to X.

One Example i Think :) - Disable or unlogin maybe.
Unlogin could function so, who thus had the correct password in the 
X.. can so send one command to X and thus the X would cancel the 
Login of the person who was logged. would be good I thinks... :)

just a suggestion .. MiTNiCk :) thanks.