Re: [Coder-Com] Feature request for ircu

2003-06-10 Thread Tim Ramsey
Frederik Vervaet wrote:
Will be abused instantly. For example : users on a shared uni network behind
NAT will have same [EMAIL PROTECTED]  thus allowing them to collide others from the 
same
network.
What about allowing the user to lower the ping timeout setting on connect?
That seems a usable compromise.

Another fix would be to allow users to ask X to zot old nicks with the
same [EMAIL PROTECTED] logged in to the same Cservice ID.
Tim




Re: [Coder-Com] Feature request for ircu

2003-06-10 Thread Gavin Grieve
On Wed, 2003-06-11 at 10:00, Tim Ramsey wrote:
> Frederik Vervaet wrote:
> > Will be abused instantly. For example : users on a shared uni network behind
> > NAT will have same [EMAIL PROTECTED]  thus allowing them to collide others from 
> > the same
> > network.

My thoughts are similar.  At various times, I connect a second client
from the same [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a number of reasons, mostly it is to get
around minutes of lag.  It would be very frustrating for my first client
to be collided just because I connected a second client.

> > What about allowing the user to lower the ping timeout setting on connect?
> 
> That seems a usable compromise.
> 
> Another fix would be to allow users to ask X to zot old nicks with the
> same [EMAIL PROTECTED] logged in to the same Cservice ID.

This seems a better solution imho, however as with all things related to
X, thou shalt get CService to want it implemented, and so it shall be
coded.  Other networks have this ability due to patches they've coded
themselves.

Gavin
aka HeKTik



Re: [Coder-Com] Feature request for ircu

2003-06-10 Thread Richard Smith
On Wednesday, Jun 11, 2003, at 12:09 Pacific/Auckland, Gavin Grieve 
wrote:

On Wed, 2003-06-11 at 10:00, Tim Ramsey wrote:
Frederik Vervaet wrote:
Will be abused instantly. For example : users on a shared uni 
network behind
NAT will have same [EMAIL PROTECTED]  thus allowing them to collide others from 
the same
network.
My thoughts are similar.  At various times, I connect a second client
from the same [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a number of reasons, mostly it is to get
around minutes of lag.  It would be very frustrating for my first 
client
to be collided just because I connected a second client.

What about allowing the user to lower the ping timeout setting on 
connect?
That seems a usable compromise.

Another fix would be to allow users to ask X to zot old nicks with the
same [EMAIL PROTECTED] logged in to the same Cservice ID.
This seems a better solution imho, however as with all things related 
to
X, thou shalt get CService to want it implemented, and so it shall be
coded.  Other networks have this ability due to patches they've coded
themselves.

Gavin
aka HeKTik
CService wont do it, mostly because it means letting X use the power to 
/kill or "nick collide" and the Server Admins do not want that. X was 
simply not created with that purpose in mind. the client selects ping 
timeouts seems to be the best option here.

(plus do you want to give a hacker the ability to /kill you if they 
happen to get your username and password?)

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