Re: FW: Commons-HttpClient conflict with WebDAVClient
Oleg, It doesn't matter too much to me either way. I've sent an email to the slide-dev group suggesting that they switch to the 2.0 branch, but no action has been taken yet. Slide is an interesting test case, if only because it is representative of how other clients are using HttpClient, at least that is my guess. Mind you, I'm not saying that we should hold back HttpClient just for Slide! I agree with you 100% that we should fix critical design flaws. On the other hand, the webdav extensions that Slide has use HttpClient in a way that I think most on this list would consider standard. To allow the Slide extensions to continue to work in a drop-in manner with both the 2.0 and 2.1 branch would be beneficial to all, and not just the Slide project. Mike raised the version numbering issue a while back. A very simple, clear-cut way for us to look at it is to say that if Slide DAV extensions continue to work with both 2.0 and 2.1, then I think we can get away with calling the changes that are in progress part of a 2.1 release. Otherwise, we should be honest with the clients of HttpClient and call it 3.0. That's just my perspective. Kalnichevski, Oleg wrote: Eric, Of course, the patch can be rolled back. Alternatively we can leave getResponseContentLength() method as is, and introduce an additional method that serve similar function but returns long, not int. I don't believe we should just roll back the patch either. It is a design flaw that needs to be fixed. I suggested getResponseLength() as the new alternative that returns a long. But the whole point is that I really can't understand why Slide folks cannot just use stable 2.0 branch. At the end of the day back in February we decided to release 2.0 with the sub-optimal API primarily in order to keep Slide folks happy (even though we were still formally in alpha phase). And now what? Is history about to repeat itself? I don't think that history will repeat itself, because the 2.0 library is a much more stable, reliable, and robust solution that can be built on top of in a contrast to the way that many emails to this list have suggested the 1.0 release was unstable, unreliable, slow, and error prone. Slide has a fallback position now that it didn't have before. Is there any particular reason for Slide to use CVS HEAD? No. -Eric. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: FW: Commons-HttpClient conflict with WebDAVClient
There should be some documentation on both projects web sites stating their 'connectedness' of lack of it... I bet I am not the only one who ended up with this problem... Regards, Daniel -Original Message- From: Adrian Sutton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 25 July, 2003 12:50 PM To: Commons HttpClient Project Subject: Re: FW: Commons-HttpClient conflict with WebDAVClient They're two separate projects with little interaction these days. Slide depends on HttpClient and we do try our best not to break their build but I don't think there are any committers on both teams. Regards, Adrian Sutton. On Friday, July 25, 2003, at 02:30 PM, Daniel Joshua wrote: Just curious is there any co-ordination going on between the Commons-HttpClient and the Slide developers? Or are the 2 Jakarta projects developing totally independant of each other? Regards, Daniel -Original Message- From: Adrian Sutton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 24 July, 2003 8:33 PM To: Commons HttpClient Project Cc: 'Slide Users Mailing List' Subject: Re: FW: Commons-HttpClient conflict with WebDAVClient There are a few options here: a. Check out the slide sources and build against HttpClient beta 2 instead of HEAD (all the compile errors that I can see are due to the changes on the HEAD branch and won't be in the 2.0 release). b. Update Slide to compile with HttpClient CVS HEAD - Note that slide will then no longer compile with older HttpClient versions. I can do up a patch if the slide developers want to do it this way. c. Release HttpClient 2.0 (planned very soon) and Slide x.x (???) then take option b. d. Something else? I'll open a bug report on this in a moment, Daniel I'd suggest you add yourself to the CC list. Regards, Adrian Sutton. On Thursday, July 24, 2003, at 10:12 PM, Daniel Joshua wrote: Can somebody make a release soon in that case... I really need a WebDAVClient which can be use with either a Commons-HttpClient beta 1 or 2? Regards, Daniel -Original Message- From: Christopher Lenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 24 July, 2003 7:53 PM To: Slide Users Mailing List Subject: Re: FW: Commons-HttpClient conflict with WebDAVClient Martin Holz wrote: Daniel Joshua [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: We use the latest beta releases of HttpClient with a CVS build of the WebDAV client. Works fine. Fisrt, I have checked http://jakarta.apache.org/site/binindex.cgi and the latest release build for download is Slide 1.0.16. Also, I was looking at the Slide documentation and there is mention of Slide 2.0.0 Where can I download this. Slide 2.0 is not released and there is no such thing as nightly build. You have to build it from CVS. There *are* automated nightly builds: http://cvs.apache.org/builds/jakarta-slide/nightly/ But the builds have been faily for weeks now :-/ http://cvs.apache.org/builds/gump/latest/jakarta-slide.html (Apparently due to an incompatible change in HttpClient) -chris - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Intencha tomorrow's technology today Ph: 38478913 0422236329 Suite 8/29 Oatland Crescent Holland Park West 4121 Australia QLD www.intencha.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Intencha tomorrow's technology today Ph: 38478913 0422236329 Suite 8/29 Oatland Crescent Holland Park West 4121 Australia QLD www.intencha.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FW: Commons-HttpClient conflict with WebDAVClient
Daniel, I guess the Slide people will happily check in a patch that migrates to a current HttpClient build. Maybe ask on their list, if you can work on it. Odi Daniel Joshua wrote: Can somebody make a release soon in that case... I really need a WebDAVClient which can be use with either a Commons-HttpClient beta 1 or 2? Regards, Daniel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FW: Commons-HttpClient conflict with WebDAVClient
On Thursday, July 24, 2003, at 08:33 AM, Adrian Sutton wrote: There are a few options here: a. Check out the slide sources and build against HttpClient beta 2 instead of HEAD (all the compile errors that I can see are due to the changes on the HEAD branch and won't be in the 2.0 release). Yes, the errors are because Slide is using deprecated methods in 2.0 that were removed in 2.1. b. Update Slide to compile with HttpClient CVS HEAD - Note that slide will then no longer compile with older HttpClient versions. I can do up a patch if the slide developers want to do it this way. It should be possible for things to compile with 2.1 and 2.0. Again it's only because of deprecated method use that things are broken now. Mike - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FW: Commons-HttpClient conflict with WebDAVClient
On Thursday, July 24, 2003, at 10:47 PM, Michael Becke wrote: On Thursday, July 24, 2003, at 08:33 AM, Adrian Sutton wrote: There are a few options here: a. Check out the slide sources and build against HttpClient beta 2 instead of HEAD (all the compile errors that I can see are due to the changes on the HEAD branch and won't be in the 2.0 release). Yes, the errors are because Slide is using deprecated methods in 2.0 that were removed in 2.1. There's also the int/long change for getResponseContentLength() which causes the compile to break on one or the other. Perhaps we should rethink the decision to just change that return type? b. Update Slide to compile with HttpClient CVS HEAD - Note that slide will then no longer compile with older HttpClient versions. I can do up a patch if the slide developers want to do it this way. It should be possible for things to compile with 2.1 and 2.0. Again it's only because of deprecated method use that things are broken now. Mike Regards, Adrian Sutton. -- Intencha tomorrow's technology today Ph: 38478913 0422236329 Suite 8/29 Oatland Crescent Holland Park West 4121 Australia QLD www.intencha.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: FW: Commons-HttpClient conflict with WebDAVClient
We use the latest beta releases of HttpClient with a CVS build of the WebDAV client. Works fine. Fisrt, I have checked http://jakarta.apache.org/site/binindex.cgi and the latest release build for download is Slide 1.0.16. Also, I was looking at the Slide documentation and there is mention of Slide 2.0.0 Where can I download this. PS: please tell me that I need to use a CVS build... Second, will upgrading to a the new webdavclient.jar cause a lot of breaks in my project existing coding? Or is it backward compatible? Regards, Daniel -Original Message- From: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Martin Holz Sent: Thursday, 24 July, 2003 5:23 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: FW: Commons-HttpClient conflict with WebDAVClient Daniel Joshua [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi all, Got a question. My project uses WebDAVClient for remote file access. Recently I tried to add Commons-HttpClient 2 beta 1 to my project. This cause problems as WebDAVClient already packages an older version of HttpClient (version 0.9 I think). Anyone care to share how they handled this. We use the latest beta releases of HttpClient with a CVS build of the WebDAV client. Works fine. By the way, I don't expect any release of the slide server anytime soon. What do people think about a 2.0 release of the WebDAV client as soon as HTTP client 2.0 final is released? -- Martin Holz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Softwareentwicklung / Vernetztes Studium - Chemie FIZ CHEMIE Berlin Franklinstrasse 11 D-10587 Berlin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: FW: Commons-HttpClient conflict with WebDAVClient
Can somebody make a release soon in that case... I really need a WebDAVClient which can be use with either a Commons-HttpClient beta 1 or 2? Regards, Daniel -Original Message- From: Christopher Lenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 24 July, 2003 7:53 PM To: Slide Users Mailing List Subject: Re: FW: Commons-HttpClient conflict with WebDAVClient Martin Holz wrote: Daniel Joshua [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: We use the latest beta releases of HttpClient with a CVS build of the WebDAV client. Works fine. Fisrt, I have checked http://jakarta.apache.org/site/binindex.cgi and the latest release build for download is Slide 1.0.16. Also, I was looking at the Slide documentation and there is mention of Slide 2.0.0 Where can I download this. Slide 2.0 is not released and there is no such thing as nightly build. You have to build it from CVS. There *are* automated nightly builds: http://cvs.apache.org/builds/jakarta-slide/nightly/ But the builds have been faily for weeks now :-/ http://cvs.apache.org/builds/gump/latest/jakarta-slide.html (Apparently due to an incompatible change in HttpClient) -chris - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FW: Commons-HttpClient conflict with WebDAVClient
There are a few options here: a. Check out the slide sources and build against HttpClient beta 2 instead of HEAD (all the compile errors that I can see are due to the changes on the HEAD branch and won't be in the 2.0 release). b. Update Slide to compile with HttpClient CVS HEAD - Note that slide will then no longer compile with older HttpClient versions. I can do up a patch if the slide developers want to do it this way. c. Release HttpClient 2.0 (planned very soon) and Slide x.x (???) then take option b. d. Something else? I'll open a bug report on this in a moment, Daniel I'd suggest you add yourself to the CC list. Regards, Adrian Sutton. On Thursday, July 24, 2003, at 10:12 PM, Daniel Joshua wrote: Can somebody make a release soon in that case... I really need a WebDAVClient which can be use with either a Commons-HttpClient beta 1 or 2? Regards, Daniel -Original Message- From: Christopher Lenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 24 July, 2003 7:53 PM To: Slide Users Mailing List Subject: Re: FW: Commons-HttpClient conflict with WebDAVClient Martin Holz wrote: Daniel Joshua [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: We use the latest beta releases of HttpClient with a CVS build of the WebDAV client. Works fine. Fisrt, I have checked http://jakarta.apache.org/site/binindex.cgi and the latest release build for download is Slide 1.0.16. Also, I was looking at the Slide documentation and there is mention of Slide 2.0.0 Where can I download this. Slide 2.0 is not released and there is no such thing as nightly build. You have to build it from CVS. There *are* automated nightly builds: http://cvs.apache.org/builds/jakarta-slide/nightly/ But the builds have been faily for weeks now :-/ http://cvs.apache.org/builds/gump/latest/jakarta-slide.html (Apparently due to an incompatible change in HttpClient) -chris - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Intencha tomorrow's technology today Ph: 38478913 0422236329 Suite 8/29 Oatland Crescent Holland Park West 4121 Australia QLD www.intencha.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FW: Commons-HttpClient conflict with WebDAVClient
They're two separate projects with little interaction these days. Slide depends on HttpClient and we do try our best not to break their build but I don't think there are any committers on both teams. Regards, Adrian Sutton. On Friday, July 25, 2003, at 02:30 PM, Daniel Joshua wrote: Just curious is there any co-ordination going on between the Commons-HttpClient and the Slide developers? Or are the 2 Jakarta projects developing totally independant of each other? Regards, Daniel -Original Message- From: Adrian Sutton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 24 July, 2003 8:33 PM To: Commons HttpClient Project Cc: 'Slide Users Mailing List' Subject: Re: FW: Commons-HttpClient conflict with WebDAVClient There are a few options here: a. Check out the slide sources and build against HttpClient beta 2 instead of HEAD (all the compile errors that I can see are due to the changes on the HEAD branch and won't be in the 2.0 release). b. Update Slide to compile with HttpClient CVS HEAD - Note that slide will then no longer compile with older HttpClient versions. I can do up a patch if the slide developers want to do it this way. c. Release HttpClient 2.0 (planned very soon) and Slide x.x (???) then take option b. d. Something else? I'll open a bug report on this in a moment, Daniel I'd suggest you add yourself to the CC list. Regards, Adrian Sutton. On Thursday, July 24, 2003, at 10:12 PM, Daniel Joshua wrote: Can somebody make a release soon in that case... I really need a WebDAVClient which can be use with either a Commons-HttpClient beta 1 or 2? Regards, Daniel -Original Message- From: Christopher Lenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 24 July, 2003 7:53 PM To: Slide Users Mailing List Subject: Re: FW: Commons-HttpClient conflict with WebDAVClient Martin Holz wrote: Daniel Joshua [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: We use the latest beta releases of HttpClient with a CVS build of the WebDAV client. Works fine. Fisrt, I have checked http://jakarta.apache.org/site/binindex.cgi and the latest release build for download is Slide 1.0.16. Also, I was looking at the Slide documentation and there is mention of Slide 2.0.0 Where can I download this. Slide 2.0 is not released and there is no such thing as nightly build. You have to build it from CVS. There *are* automated nightly builds: http://cvs.apache.org/builds/jakarta-slide/nightly/ But the builds have been faily for weeks now :-/ http://cvs.apache.org/builds/gump/latest/jakarta-slide.html (Apparently due to an incompatible change in HttpClient) -chris - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Intencha tomorrow's technology today Ph: 38478913 0422236329 Suite 8/29 Oatland Crescent Holland Park West 4121 Australia QLD www.intencha.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Intencha tomorrow's technology today Ph: 38478913 0422236329 Suite 8/29 Oatland Crescent Holland Park West 4121 Australia QLD www.intencha.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: FW: Commons-HttpClient conflict with WebDAVClient
Just curious is there any co-ordination going on between the Commons-HttpClient and the Slide developers? Or are the 2 Jakarta projects developing totally independant of each other? Regards, Daniel -Original Message- From: Adrian Sutton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 24 July, 2003 8:33 PM To: Commons HttpClient Project Cc: 'Slide Users Mailing List' Subject: Re: FW: Commons-HttpClient conflict with WebDAVClient There are a few options here: a. Check out the slide sources and build against HttpClient beta 2 instead of HEAD (all the compile errors that I can see are due to the changes on the HEAD branch and won't be in the 2.0 release). b. Update Slide to compile with HttpClient CVS HEAD - Note that slide will then no longer compile with older HttpClient versions. I can do up a patch if the slide developers want to do it this way. c. Release HttpClient 2.0 (planned very soon) and Slide x.x (???) then take option b. d. Something else? I'll open a bug report on this in a moment, Daniel I'd suggest you add yourself to the CC list. Regards, Adrian Sutton. On Thursday, July 24, 2003, at 10:12 PM, Daniel Joshua wrote: Can somebody make a release soon in that case... I really need a WebDAVClient which can be use with either a Commons-HttpClient beta 1 or 2? Regards, Daniel -Original Message- From: Christopher Lenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 24 July, 2003 7:53 PM To: Slide Users Mailing List Subject: Re: FW: Commons-HttpClient conflict with WebDAVClient Martin Holz wrote: Daniel Joshua [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: We use the latest beta releases of HttpClient with a CVS build of the WebDAV client. Works fine. Fisrt, I have checked http://jakarta.apache.org/site/binindex.cgi and the latest release build for download is Slide 1.0.16. Also, I was looking at the Slide documentation and there is mention of Slide 2.0.0 Where can I download this. Slide 2.0 is not released and there is no such thing as nightly build. You have to build it from CVS. There *are* automated nightly builds: http://cvs.apache.org/builds/jakarta-slide/nightly/ But the builds have been faily for weeks now :-/ http://cvs.apache.org/builds/gump/latest/jakarta-slide.html (Apparently due to an incompatible change in HttpClient) -chris - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Intencha tomorrow's technology today Ph: 38478913 0422236329 Suite 8/29 Oatland Crescent Holland Park West 4121 Australia QLD www.intencha.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
