Re: OASIS

2004-06-30 Thread Berin Lautenbach
Noel J. Bergman wrote:
I would hope that at least folks who are directly involved, particularly
from our Web Services, Portals and XML-Security projects, would volunteer.
I have a few specific names in mind.
GRIN.  I think I've mentioned in the past I'd be interested in the 
security areas.

Cheers,
Berin
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Re: ApacheCon Europe???

2004-05-10 Thread Berin Lautenbach
Martin van den Bemt wrote:
 Correct spelling Rijsttafel and indeed it is a rice table :)
 Dutch isn't that hard...
Hah!  My old man tried to teach me Dutch when I was a wee tacker.  I 
still haven't quite recovered.

And the day I first heard him on the phone to his sister was a real spinout.
Mind you - language was never my strong point.
:
Cheers,
Berin

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[Fwd: Adding Stefano's How it Works! paper to Apache web]

2004-04-10 Thread Berin Lautenbach
Peoples,
Given nobody objected :, this is now on the site from a link under the
Foundation section of the side-bar.
With thanks to Stefano and Phil.  It's a great read!
Cheers,
Berin
 Original Message 
Subject: Adding Stefano's How it Works! paper to Apache web
Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2004 07:14:59 -0700
From: Phil Steitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: community@apache.org
To: community@apache.org
After forwarding the whitepaper version of Stefano Mazzocchi's Apachecon
2003 session on How the ASF Works to several people interested in
learning about Apache, it occurred to me that having this content
somewhere easy to find on the web site would be a good thing.  So...with
Stefano's permission, I converted the pdf to xdoc and submitted a patch here
http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-56
I included a patch to add a link to the new page off of the Foundation
menu. Both the formatting and placement are just initial suggestions. If
others think this is a good idea, we can reformat / pull apart / relocate
in whatever way makes sense.
Phil
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[Fwd: Adding Stefano's How it Works! paper to Apache web]

2004-04-09 Thread Berin Lautenbach
Peoples,
Given nobody objected :, this is now on the site from a link under the 
Foundation section of the side-bar.

With thanks to Stefano and Phil.  It's a great read!
Cheers,
Berin
 Original Message 
Subject: Adding Stefano's How it Works! paper to Apache web
Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2004 07:14:59 -0700
From: Phil Steitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: community@apache.org
To: community@apache.org
After forwarding the whitepaper version of Stefano Mazzocchi's Apachecon
2003 session on How the ASF Works to several people interested in
learning about Apache, it occurred to me that having this content
somewhere easy to find on the web site would be a good thing.  So...with
Stefano's permission, I converted the pdf to xdoc and submitted a patch here
http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-56
I included a patch to add a link to the new page off of the Foundation
menu. Both the formatting and placement are just initial suggestions. If
others think this is a good idea, we can reformat / pull apart / relocate
in whatever way makes sense.
Phil
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Some Pointers for updating to Apache 2.0 license

2004-02-12 Thread Berin Lautenbach
Peoples,
For those who have not seen it - there are some guidelines (thanks to 
Roy!) on applying the 2.0 license to code at :

http://www.apache.org/dev/apply-license.html
They have been very useful for us.
Cheers,
Berin


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Re: Private mail lists [was: Inappropriate use of announce@]

2003-10-25 Thread Berin Lautenbach
Steven Noels wrote:
Santiago Gala wrote:
When I said:
Just tell them. I think they are all PMC Chairs are subscribed to  
board, so it should be easy to tell them there to

Sideway comment from my little peanut gallery: this is (only) the second 
time I overheard that PMC chairs can subscribe to board@ - in three 
years of (increasingly intensive) reading of non-project-specific ASF 
mail lists. Whether this is a 'can', a 'should', or a 'you are required 
to' is one of these hidden nuggets of information I would like to see 
novice chairs to be informed of in some explicit way.
FWIW I received an e-mail immediately after the board meeting that voted 
on my becoming chair that described duties etc. and included the 
suggestion to subscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]  My read was that this was just a 
standard thing.

Cheers,
Berin
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Re: Press PR (was Re: The board is not responsible!)

2003-10-25 Thread Berin Lautenbach
Noel J. Bergman wrote:
when I subscribed to some mailing lists, I got stunned
at seeing the fact that some mailing lists accepted
spam mails.

Some lists were setup wrong.  AFAIK, none of the lists should accept mail
from non-subscribers without moderation.
Although there are some lists where it might be nice.
I am *sure* this has been gone over before - so I ask for my own 
edification.  Is there any reason we don't run something like Spam 
Assassin (processing/support etc.?)

Cheers,
Berin
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Re: Inappropriate use of announce@

2003-10-20 Thread Berin Lautenbach
G'day Tetsuya,

I'm with Noel here.  The newsletter is great,
it's just that people who subscribe to announce@
expect to get short e-mails telling them how to 
find things.  They don't expect large e-mails with
major content.

So don't stop the overall newsletter - your 
efforts are valued :.  I don't believe you will 
cause a balkanization of the e-mail culture, but
I *do* believe it will take some trial and error 
to get the dissemination process to a point where 
most people are comfortable.  Don't get 
dis-heartened, take all the feedback as positive 
and adapt!

Cheers,
Berin

 
 From: Tetsuya Kitahata [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Inappropriate use of announce@
 Date: 20/10/2003 9:20:39
 To: community@apache.org
 
 
 Nope. I have to resign. The difference of the e-mail culture. 
 We, Japanese, do not complain about the volume of the
 mails (especially when they are useful and informative)
 and I am accustomed to that culture.
 
 Someone like me (who have such a mind) should not have become
 the editor of that newsletter. There could be often friction
 and it will cause the balkanization of the e-mail culture.
 
 The original intention of the newsletter was
 Newsletter will be one of the *glue* of the communities in the ASF
 umbrella, beyond the artificial boundaries of technical languages etc.
 Hope this can gradually lead the good course of the ASF, avoiding the
 balkanization of each projects and keep the hand tightly with various
 projects.: cooperative collaboration space for all the contributors
 
 ... It seems that the newsletter itself is going to the contrary.
 
 Very sad.
 
 I am willing to resign.
 
 Thank you for reading.
 
 -- Tetsuya. ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
 
 On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 19:08:19 -0400
 (Subject: RE: Inappropriate use of announce@)
 Noel J. Bergman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Tetsuya,
  
  All that David was asking is that you post a SHORT announcement, like the
  sample I posted, rather than the ENTIRE newsletter.  That is all.
  
  You did a great job, as usual, on the newsletter, and you should continue to
  do so, IMO.
  
  --- Noel
 
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Re: Inappropriate use of announce@

2003-10-20 Thread Berin Lautenbach
 From: Erik Abele [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Announce@ is for announcements, community@ for community musings, and 
 *perhaps*
 newsletter@ is for the newsletter. That's it, simple, eh?

+1.  (Can still put a short note in announce@)

Cheers,
Berin


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