Re: [apachecon] Meet the developers corner
Jukka Zitting wrote on 2009-05-26 15:31:40: On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 11:22 AM, Ceki Gulcu c...@qos.ch wrote: There was however a major downside to meet the developer corner. Each volunteering developer had to be present for several arbitrarily-set hours. So, I missed a couple of presentations waiting for people to show up, like a shoe seller awaiting clients. Very few people showed up. Thanks for sharing this, we certainly don't want to repeat things that didn't work before. I was about to mention as well, that we did something like this at a previous ApacheCon in Las Vegas. One reason why it didn't work well was that the meet the developer corner was in the expo area which was in a different room than the Hackathon/Online lounge. We can fix that, however, I think the main reason why it didn't work was that the developer sessions where a bit too unspecific and that there was no particular topic apart from the project itself. But then, if you advertise a particular topic you more or less end up with a BoF ... or something you could do as part of an unconference/barcamp session. Some kind of moderation always helps to encourage attendees to join and to actually ask questions. ciao... -- Lars Eilebrecht l...@eilebrecht.net - To unsubscribe, e-mail: community-unsubscr...@apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: community-h...@apache.org
Re: [apachecon] Meet the developers corner
Hi Jukka, The idea is not entirely new. In ApacheCon 2001, there was a meet the developer corner where I met Erik Meade, the maintainer of Junit at the time. He was interested in some log4j feature so we pair programmed for about two hours. It was a memorable experience. There was however a major downside to meet the developer corner. Each volunteering developer had to be present for several arbitrarily-set hours. So, I missed a couple of presentations waiting for people to show up, like a shoe seller awaiting clients. Very few people showed up. I was lucky enough to meet Erik, so overall it was a very good experience. Assuming there would be WiFi access during the conference, instead of the developers idly sitting around, a wiki page could be created to allow interested attendees and developers to prearrange a time for their meeting. Cheers, Jukka Zitting wrote: Hi, Here's an idea I came up with for the proposed Content/Web Technology track in ApacheCon US 2009: We'd reserve and mark a table or a corner of the Hackathon area as the Meet the developers corner where conference attendees could come and meet the speakers and other project committers in a semi-organized manner. The corner would have a wiki page where people from various projects can sign up so everyone will know when they'll be there and what projects they know about. This should make it easier for users and other interested people to connect with the developers. The corner could also be used as a place for ad-hoc demos, hands-on tutorials, etc. and I'd like to ask the speakers of this track to drop by the corner for 10-15 minutes after their presentation for any followup questions and discussions for which there wasn't enough time earlier. If people like this idea, we could even expand it to cover the entire conference instead of just a single track. WDYT? BR, Jukka Zitting -- Ceki Gülcü Logback: The reliable, generic, fast and flexible logging framework for Java. http://logback.qos.ch - To unsubscribe, e-mail: community-unsubscr...@apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: community-h...@apache.org
Re: [apachecon] Meet the developers corner
Hi, On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 6:27 PM, Henri Yandell hyand...@gmail.com wrote: what I'd really like to drum up the energy to do is a Come develop with the developers corner. In so much as I spend a decent amount of every ApacheCon now working on a Commons release and being able to pull people in and distribute out some JIRA issues would be kinda cool. Sounds good, though I want to avoid the impression of the Meet the developers corner just containing a group of people with their backs turned and eyes staring at their laptop screens (which is what much of the hackathon area typically looks like to an outsider). Perhaps we could use this corner as a place for people to gather based on pre-announced time and topic, and they can then find a table where they can start hacking. We can put up a wiki page for that and ask interested people to sign up with proposed topics and times. I'd also make the Meet the developers corner a hotspot for information on all such unofficial conference program, so that people could drop by there and get the latest update on what's going on. We could also hook this up with the @apachecon twitter account for sending out updates and messages like User looking for project X developers, reply when you can drop by. BR, Jukka Zitting - To unsubscribe, e-mail: community-unsubscr...@apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: community-h...@apache.org
Re: [apachecon] Meet the developers corner
Hi, [Niclas had trouble sending this to the list. So here's a copy. --Jukka] Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 21:59:11 +0800 From: Niclas Hedhman nic...@apache.org To: community@apache.org Subject: Re: [apachecon] Meet the developers corner On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 9:45 PM, Jukka Zitting jukka.zitt...@gmail.com wrote: Sounds good, though I want to avoid the impression of the Meet the developers corner just containing a group of people with their backs turned and eyes staring at their laptop screens (which is what much of the hackathon area typically looks like to an outsider). I think PMC Members in general should wear Please, Ask me about X!! (X being their project) written on their backs. I think that helps the Hackathon area a lot. If that is too hard to arrange, simple stand Please, Ask us about X!! on each table is also a fairly open invitation. I remember AC2008, it took me a while to locate people I was looking for, and such sign would have made it a lot easier. Perhaps we could use this corner as a place for people to gather based on pre-announced time and topic, and they can then find a table where they can start hacking. We can put up a wiki page for that and ask interested people to sign up with proposed topics and times. Yes, that sounds like reasonable as well. Each developer should know when they are available, so if the time schedule is flexible at beginning of AC, then the volunteers sets the time when they are available, and 'audience' need to adopt (have to do that anyway). I'd also make the Meet the developers corner a hotspot for information on all such unofficial conference program, so that people could drop by there and get the latest update on what's going on. We could also hook this up with the @apachecon twitter account for sending out updates and messages like User looking for project X developers, reply when you can drop by. :-) How can I possibly survive without Twitter? Cheers -- Niclas Hedhman, Software Developer http://www.qi4j.org - New Energy for Java I live here; http://tinyurl.com/2qq9er I work here; http://tinyurl.com/2ymelc I relax here; http://tinyurl.com/2cgsug - To unsubscribe, e-mail: community-unsubscr...@apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: community-h...@apache.org
Re: [apachecon] Meet the developers corner
sounds good. On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 1:07 AM, Jukka Zitting jukka.zitt...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Here's an idea I came up with for the proposed Content/Web Technology track in ApacheCon US 2009: We'd reserve and mark a table or a corner of the Hackathon area as the Meet the developers corner where conference attendees could come and meet the speakers and other project committers in a semi-organized manner. The corner would have a wiki page where people from various projects can sign up so everyone will know when they'll be there and what projects they know about. This should make it easier for users and other interested people to connect with the developers. The corner could also be used as a place for ad-hoc demos, hands-on tutorials, etc. and I'd like to ask the speakers of this track to drop by the corner for 10-15 minutes after their presentation for any followup questions and discussions for which there wasn't enough time earlier. If people like this idea, we could even expand it to cover the entire conference instead of just a single track. WDYT? BR, Jukka Zitting - To unsubscribe, e-mail: community-unsubscr...@apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: community-h...@apache.org -- Matthias Wessendorf blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf - To unsubscribe, e-mail: community-unsubscr...@apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: community-h...@apache.org
Re: [apachecon] Meet the developers corner
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jukka Zitting wrote: Hi, Here's an idea I came up with for the proposed Content/Web Technology track in ApacheCon US 2009: We'd reserve and mark a table or a corner of the Hackathon area as the Meet the developers corner where conference attendees could come and meet the speakers and other project committers in a semi-organized manner. The corner would have a wiki page where people from various projects can sign up so everyone will know when they'll be there and what projects they know about. This should make it easier for users and other interested people to connect with the developers. The corner could also be used as a place for ad-hoc demos, hands-on tutorials, etc. and I'd like to ask the speakers of this track to drop by the corner for 10-15 minutes after their presentation for any followup questions and discussions for which there wasn't enough time earlier. If people like this idea, we could even expand it to cover the entire conference instead of just a single track. WDYT? +1 - - robert -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkoavlAACgkQQ617goCdfgNywQCfZTb0dCV3X+AJPv0ukxGT86A1 dXcAn2+KLRpMGm5DcvtMe0vQOmiAmdpz =RlgU -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: community-unsubscr...@apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: community-h...@apache.org
Re: [apachecon] Meet the developers corner
On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 8:50 AM, Robert Burrell Donkin rdon...@apache.org wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jukka Zitting wrote: Hi, Here's an idea I came up with for the proposed Content/Web Technology track in ApacheCon US 2009: We'd reserve and mark a table or a corner of the Hackathon area as the Meet the developers corner where conference attendees could come and meet the speakers and other project committers in a semi-organized manner. The corner would have a wiki page where people from various projects can sign up so everyone will know when they'll be there and what projects they know about. This should make it easier for users and other interested people to connect with the developers. The corner could also be used as a place for ad-hoc demos, hands-on tutorials, etc. and I'd like to ask the speakers of this track to drop by the corner for 10-15 minutes after their presentation for any followup questions and discussions for which there wasn't enough time earlier. If people like this idea, we could even expand it to cover the entire conference instead of just a single track. WDYT? +1 +1, but what I'd really like to drum up the energy to do is a Come develop with the developers corner. In so much as I spend a decent amount of every ApacheCon now working on a Commons release and being able to pull people in and distribute out some JIRA issues would be kinda cool. Hen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: community-unsubscr...@apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: community-h...@apache.org
Re: [apachecon] Meet the developers corner
Henri Yandell wrote: +1, but what I'd really like to drum up the energy to do is a Come develop with the developers corner. In so much as I spend a decent amount of every ApacheCon now working on a Commons release and being able to pull people in and distribute out some JIRA issues would be kinda cool. I'd be up for doing something similar with Tomcat. Mark - To unsubscribe, e-mail: community-unsubscr...@apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: community-h...@apache.org
[apachecon] Meet the developers corner
Hi, Here's an idea I came up with for the proposed Content/Web Technology track in ApacheCon US 2009: We'd reserve and mark a table or a corner of the Hackathon area as the Meet the developers corner where conference attendees could come and meet the speakers and other project committers in a semi-organized manner. The corner would have a wiki page where people from various projects can sign up so everyone will know when they'll be there and what projects they know about. This should make it easier for users and other interested people to connect with the developers. The corner could also be used as a place for ad-hoc demos, hands-on tutorials, etc. and I'd like to ask the speakers of this track to drop by the corner for 10-15 minutes after their presentation for any followup questions and discussions for which there wasn't enough time earlier. If people like this idea, we could even expand it to cover the entire conference instead of just a single track. WDYT? BR, Jukka Zitting - To unsubscribe, e-mail: community-unsubscr...@apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: community-h...@apache.org
