Re: proposed ammendment to mirroring policy

2004-08-25 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik


On Wed, 25 Aug 2004, Daniel F. Savarese wrote:

>   Disclaimer:  The presence of a mirror on this list does not
>   constitute an endorsement by the Apache Software Foundation
>   of the organization's business or other activities.  The
>   Apache Software Foundation lists all mirror sites that
>   request to be listed and meet the criteria specified at:
>   http://www.apache.org/info/how-to-mirror.html

+1

Dw.

-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: proposed ammendment to mirroring policy

2004-08-25 Thread Joshua Slive
On Wed, 25 Aug 2004, Dirk-Willem van Gulik wrote:

On Wed, 25 Aug 2004, Daniel F. Savarese wrote:
  Disclaimer:  The presence of a mirror on this list does not
  constitute an endorsement by the Apache Software Foundation
  of the organization's business or other activities.  The
  Apache Software Foundation lists all mirror sites that
  request to be listed and meet the criteria specified at:
  http://www.apache.org/info/how-to-mirror.html
+1
Some issues:
1. Are we going to put a disclaimer on all external links from apache.org 
sites?  I *hate* sites that do that sort of thing.  Web users understand 
that links, be they informational or advertising, don't constitute 
endorsements.

2. There is a major operational issue here.  Getting all the projects to 
make changes to their download pages is a very difficult proposition.  Who 
is going to work on tracking down each one to get the change made?

Having said that, I do believe that providing as much information possible 
to our downloaders is a good thing.  But lets make it less legalistic and 
more informative, like:

"Apache mirrors are independently operated according to the guidelines 
specified on our how to mirror page.  Since the Apache 
Software Foundation cannot verify the contents of every mirror, it is 
important that you check the pgp or md5 signature after your download."

Joshua.
-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: proposed ammendment to mirroring policy

2004-08-25 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
--On Wednesday, August 25, 2004 11:26 AM -0400 "Daniel F. Savarese" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

  Disclaimer:  The presence of a mirror on this list does not
  constitute an endorsement by the Apache Software Foundation
  of the organization's business or other activities.  The
  Apache Software Foundation lists all mirror sites that
  request to be listed and meet the criteria specified at:
  http://www.apache.org/info/how-to-mirror.html
I honestly don't think we need to go this far.
More needless legal mumble-jumble creeping into the ASF.  Yuck.  -- justin
-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: proposed ammendment to mirroring policy

2004-08-25 Thread Henning Schmiedehausen
On Wed, 2004-08-25 at 17:26, Daniel F. Savarese wrote:
>   Disclaimer:  The presence of a mirror on this list does not
>   constitute an endorsement by the Apache Software Foundation
>   of the organization's business or other activities.  The
>   Apache Software Foundation lists all mirror sites that
>   request to be listed and meet the criteria specified at:
>   http://www.apache.org/info/how-to-mirror.html

+1 Excellent idea.

BTW: They are using Apache for .com and announce it on
every HTTP request:

Server: Apache/1.3.31 (Unix) mod_jk/1.1.0 TKTAuth/1.3

Regards
Henning



-- 
Dipl.-Inf. (Univ.) Henning P. Schmiedehausen  INTERMETA GmbH
[EMAIL PROTECTED]+49 9131 50 654 0   http://www.intermeta.de/
 
RedHat Certified Engineer -- Jakarta Turbine Development  -- hero for hire
   Linux, Java, perl, Solaris -- Consulting, Training, Development

"Fighting for one's political stand is an honorable action, but re-
 fusing to acknowledge that there might be weaknesses in one's
 position - in order to identify them so that they can be remedied -
 is a large enough problem with the Open Source movement that it
 deserves to be on this list of the top five problems."
   --Michelle Levesque, "Fundamental Issues with
Open Source Software Development"


-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: proposed ammendment to mirroring policy

2004-08-25 Thread Vadim Gritsenko
Joshua Slive wrote:
Having said that, I do believe that providing as much information 
possible to our downloaders is a good thing.  But lets make it less 
legalistic and more informative, like:

"Apache mirrors are independently operated according to the guidelines 
specified on our how to mirror page.  Since the Apache 
Software Foundation cannot verify the contents of every mirror, it is 
important that you check the pgp or md5 signature after your download."
Less legalese: +1.
Not needing to add anything at all: even better.
Vadim
-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]