Re: Openmoko ads on youtube
On Jul 8, 2007, at 7:35 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=472DE700A3CC70A4 #21 is new. I think I went a little overboard. No one from openmoko has said to stop, so I guess these are okay to post on youtube. Please don't stop. This stuff is making everyone inside FIC excited as hell. You're _extremely_ talented. Thanks so much for your support! -Sean___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: gmail.com problems and this list
Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote: Marco Barreno [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Can someone with admin access to the list machine send me the SMTP logs for one of the duplicated messages? I'm working in the Gmail group at Google for the summer and I can have someone try to diagnose the problem from this end. The full SMTP logs would be helpful. I don't have access there, but I can fill in part of the puzzle. At least one of the opemoko machines at 88.198.124.203 opens an smtp connection back to the sending domain to verify the sender address of any incoming message. The smtp-back machine has messed up DNS. The claimed rDNS for that IP is openmoko.org but the forward DNS check for that openmoko.org doesn't list 88.198.124.203 as a valid address. If the sending machine is checking for spammers claiming a bunk DNS name will reject 88.198.124.203's SMTP verify. The opemmoko machine will then interpret that failed smtp verify attempt as the verified address not existing and will decline the initial incoming transfer. In short, folks really need to check the forward and backward DNS and make sure it is consistent, especially if that machine tries open an outgoing SMTP connection (such as the attempted verification). Jul 9 12:48:17 arbol postfix/smtp[26802]: 29AF91C98001: to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], relay=sita.openmoko.org[88.198.124.203]:25, delay=6.2, delays=0.18/0.04/5.4/0.64, dsn=4.0.0, status=deferred (host sita.openmoko.org[88.198.124.203] said: 451 Could not complete sender verify callout (in reply to RCPT TO command)) Jul 9 12:55:35 arbol postfix/smtpd[26864]: warning: 88.198.124.203: address not listed for hostname openmoko.org Jul 9 12:55:35 arbol postfix/smtpd[26864]: connect from unknown[88.198.124.203] Jul 9 12:55:36 arbol postfix/smtpd[26864]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from unknown[88.198.124.203]: 554 5.7.1 Client host rejected: cannot find your hostname, [88.198.124.203]; from= to=[EMAIL PROTECTED] proto=SMTP helo=sita.openmoko.org Jul 9 12:55:36 arbol postfix/smtpd[26864]: disconnect from unknown[88.198.124.203] Jul 9 12:55:38 arbol postfix/smtp[26863]: 29AF91C98001: to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], relay=sita.openmoko.org[88.198.124.203]:25, delay=447, delays=441/0.05/1.2/4.3, dsn=5.0.0, status=bounced (host sita.openmoko.org[88.198.124.203] said: 550-Verification failed for [EMAIL PROTECTED] 550-Called: 64.142.50.224 550-Sent: RCPT TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 550-Response: 554 5.7.1 Client host rejected: cannot find your hostname, [88.198.124.203] 550 Sender verify failed (in reply to RCPT TO command)) -wolfgang That wouldn't cause duplicates. You got a 550 error which means delivery was not attempted. I'll repeat again because a lot of people are coming up with some kinda wild answers. Google mail was causing dupes within google mail -before- it talks to any server outside of google mail. I posted the smtp logs of a message from one dupe chain that revealed this. I compared it with two other dupe chains and they both showed the same internal problem. Regardless it appears to have been fixed as google emails are no longer making dupe chains. -david ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Come see OpenMoko at Ubuntu Live
Yes, daniel got the store read and you can now get theme here: http://www.spreadshirt.com/shop.php?sid=128333 I'm bringing an extra one just in case someone forgets theirs. ;) On 7/4/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: P.s. Does anyone know if the t-shirt store was set up? If so, perhaps we can get some of those in time to show off. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Group orders for South Africa (again)
All SA OpenMoko fans, Please check out: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Group_Order#South_Africa E-Mail disclaimer: http://www.sunspace.co.za/emaildisclaimer.htm ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Charging the NEO1973
According to the wiki, charging the battery is always done through the USB socket. Does that mean that the NEO is only chargable from a computer, or is there a USB cord that plugs into a wall socket included. I don't know about everyone else, but I want want to bring my NEO to places where I don't want to lug around a computer I suppose the alternative is to buy a powered USB hug, and plug that into the wall, and the NEO into that. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
List mail not being delivered
I haven't received any email from these mailing lists since around 10:00 CEST on July 10. The web archives, however, show several messages since that time. Could there be a problem with the list server? I checked my list subscriptions, which seem to all be correct (mail enabled, digest off, etc.). I also tried signing up two other email accounts I have at a different domains, to see if it was a problem with my ISP, but the subscription confirmation emails never arrived. Is anyone getting list mail delivered? Is there a known problem with the list server? (Please send replies directly to me in addition to the mailing lists, for obvious reasons!) Thanks, Marco ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: Openmoko ads on youtube
22-27 are new http://www.youtube.com/my_playlists?p=472DE700A3CC70A4 ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OPENMOKO.COM IS UP
I recieved an email that confirms that they received my order request but there's an explicit statement saying that this does not mean they have processed my order. Have not recieved any confirmation of processing yet, but i'm thinking they're doing this all by hand for this first batch and it'll take a while. One thing i'm worried about - my order number is 2000 which could mean that over 2000 other orders were placed before mine (though it could be they started the numbering at some arbitrary hi number). If there's only 600 phones available right now, and there's really 2000 people ahead of me, I might as well wait for the GTA02 in October --clayton On 7/10/07, Pedro Aguilar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I haven't received any confirmation neither :( Anyone else is in this situation? Pedro Aguilar BTW, has anyone of you received confirmation (other than from RT) from OpenMoko that your request is being processed? I did not and neither are there any operations on my credit card from OpenMoko shop. I guess there are going to be some delays in shipping... cheers cayco ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OPENMOKO.COM IS UP
I got the automated confirmation, about 7 or 8 hours later. On 7/10/07, Jonas Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Shawn Rutledge wrote: I managed to place an order a few hours ago (finally... had lots of problems actually submitting the form the first time). It says Openmoko Online Shop - Step 3/3 (complete) Your Order request has been processed. You will receive a confirmation email within 24 hours. but I didn't receive the confirmation yet. Is that a bad sign or does it really take up to 24 hours? It took almost 29 hours for me, and meanwhile the ticket did not show up in their order tracking system either when I asked about it, so I sent a second order some 8 hours later, which immediately resulted in an email. I then had to cancel the first order when it finally came through.. -- - xkr47 ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: t-shirts in the US
The community I volunteer for has a t-shirt store at Spreadshirt.com. http://www.spreadshirt.com/shop.php?sid=100171 We can get things delivered in Canada and we are very happy with the service. Maybe it's just a config matter to get them to ship anywhere. We maintain a wireless community network with 150 hotspots and 40,000 users in Montreal Canada. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:community- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Chandler Sent: 10 juillet 2007 03:03 To: Daniel Willmann Cc: community@lists.openmoko.org Subject: Re: t-shirts in the US On Mon, Jul 09, 2007 at 05:57:25PM +0200, Daniel Willmann wrote: Hi, On Tue, 3 Jul 2007 15:50:15 -0700 Jeff Andros [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not familiar with spreadshirt's stuff, but I know that some of the shirts on cafepress are done with a direct dye process(dye goes directly into the fabric)... which means no big plasticy sticky thing on the shirt(I really hate that stuff). If spreadshirts can give the same thing, I don't really have a preference, but I'm all for cafepress otherwise (you will have to select the direct dye (don't remember their name, but it's obvious) option when you create the shirt itself)-- and check that the stock shirt you select has that option well I went with spreadshirt because I already know that interface. Also cafepress doesn't seem to accept vector graphics (.eps). The printing technique used is Flock print which is probably not what you prefer (it has a furry surface), but it is quite durable. Anyway, the shop is at: http://www.spreadshirt.com/shop.php?sid=128333 Regards, Daniel Willmann This is great news for me because I live in Australia. spreadsshirt.net seemes only to deliver to european coutries mainly. If it's possible, could you add another design that's the opposite of the first design? I'd like a shirt that has the big logo on the front. Whether it has Free your phone or nothing on the back doesn't bother me. BTW, thanks greatly for organising shirts on both sites! Mark C. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
What apps will be included with GTA02 phone?
Given what has been said about the GTA02 phone being targeted at end users, it will (I assume) various apps that end users expect on their phones. Have FIC and the OpenMoko team had any thoughts about what applications will be shipped pre-installed on GTA02 phones? Will it simply be the same core apps (i.e. the minimum needed to make it a usable phone) that come with GTA01 phones? My apologies if this is the wrong list or if it has been discussed before (I read the archives of various OpenMoko lists to see if it has been discussed anywhere and didnt find anything) ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Tutorials, HowTo's, etc
I completely understand not being able to buy two Neos. You should go to wiki.openmoko.org and look up MokoMakefile. It will allow you to build an qemu image to run the phone software on the desktop. As far as documents and how-to's go, most of us don't have a phone yet, but once we do more information should be available. In the mean time since your not a native english speaker you might consider helping to translate to your native language, whatever that may be. On 7/10/07, ramsesoriginal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi. I really love this project, but since (as most of us here, i imagine) i'm only a simple student, i can't afford to buy two Neos. So i will wait 'til october. But I would like to have some possibility to develope something in the meantime. Since this is all open source, i imagined to find thousands of tutorials, howtos, step-by-step-descriptions, and so on. But the only thing i found is a look at gtk-sort of thing. Not onyl there aren't any Developer tutorials (on how to create something), but even there aren't any descriptions of how to use what's inside the phone right now. If somebody has any help on how to start programming some (simple) apps for the OpenMoko, without having a FIC at my disposal, i would be pleased to let my creativity flow. p.s. maybe i could also write some tutorials, or translate existing ones.. but i must have THE KNOWLEDGE to do so. best regards, Stefan Insam p.p.s. Sorry for my bad english.. I'm not a native speaker. -- My corner of the web: http://ramsesoriginal.wordpress.com My dream, my world: http://abenu.wordpress.com ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
shipped phone questions
What version of openmoko has been flashed to the phones that are shipping? Is there a self-update tool for the base software (kernel, moko libs, etc)? Since the neo1973 will be used in the USA, what is the FCC ID? Thanks, Don ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
order confirmation numbers
Hi I ordered a Neo fairly fast, RT (confirmation) number ~2200 - I received a reply email but it was BLANK (the RT number is in the subject) If someone from FIC is reading, please can you check that my order has been received and send me a full confirmation (I replied to [EMAIL PROTECTED] yesterday but havent had a reply yet) Thanks John Cass ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Is it developer-user ready?
On 7/9/07, Benjamin Schieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On that same note, a step-by-step guide on setting up a development environment on my self-baked Linux system would be nice, too. For now what I found is this: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/OpenMoko which doesn't make much sense to me. Will it make sense once I installed bitbake and the rest of the software? Thank you for your time, Benjamin Check out http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Building_OpenMoko_from_scratch. Or just use the MokoMakefile: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/MokoMakefile -Steven ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: Store info - shipping costs, credit card support
For your state (or province, if in Canada), use a two letter abbreviation, in capitol letters. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jae Stutzman Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2007 4:14 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; community Subject: Re: Store info - shipping costs, credit card support I'm still getting a blank page after submitting step 1... On 7/8/07, Sean Moss-Pultz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2007-07-09 at 07:49 +1200, Nick Johnson wrote: I just bought one. The only shipping option listed was SAVER at a wince-inducing $85.13 USD to ship to New Zealand. As for credit cards: Visa and American Express only. We just added MasterCard. -Sean ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community NOTE: The information in this message is intended for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. To the extent the recipient(s) is/are bound by a non-disclosure agreement, or other agreement that contains an obligation of confidentiality, with AuthenTec, then this message and/or any attachments shall be considered confidential information and subject to the confidentiality terms of that agreement. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient named above, you are notified that you have received this document in error, and any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this document in error, please delete the original message and notify the sender immediately. Thank you. AuthenTec, Inc. http://www.authentec.com ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Bringing communications equipment into Australia
One of the guys on the SLUG (Sydney LUG) mailing list, found info that should answer some questions about using the Neo 1973 in Australia. I am not an expert, but my take on this is that as long as the GSM modem is to international standards, then there is no problem. The fact that there is a phone built around it shouldn't matter. I can buy an RS232 attachable GSM modem and plug it into a Linux box to give me basically the same thing. Email copied below: Gents, ACMA is the Australian Regulator. This page http://www.acma.gov.au/WEB/STANDARD//pc=PC_1687 seems to cover your questions. Brendan Puck.. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Get them while they're still hot!
On 7/9/07, Sean Moss-Pultz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Get them while they're still hot ;-) what happened to the in car mounting kit? or can we get a recommendation on a compatible model? ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Hardware question
Does anyone know if the handset available now will be the same one available in Oct for retail release? I really want to play with the neo now but I'd hate buy a new one in Oct because of a hardware improvement. I say play because I haven't done anything with linux since I got SUSE to run on my new PPC Mac in 1998 but openmoko is extremely inspiring- -Chris Amateurs learn tactics- professionals study logistics. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: community Digest, Vol 35, Issue 10
Can anyone tell me how much different the hardware will be In Oct for retail release from this current developers release of the handset. I am eager to play with the current release but would hate to have to shell out another $450 in Oct for a hardware handset upgrade. To be honest, I have not done anything in a Linux environment since I got SUSE to run on my new PPC Mac back in 1998 but this handset has inspired me. Chris -Chris Amateurs learn tactics- professionals study logistics. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 10:12:07 To:community@lists.openmoko.org Subject: community Digest, Vol 35, Issue 10 Send community mailing list submissions to community@lists.openmoko.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can reach the person managing the list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of community digest... Today's Topics: 1. Re: Shipping costs (Shawn Rutledge) 2. Re: Store info - shipping costs to Germany (Peter Trapp) 3. Re: Web Shop Site Problem (Richi Plana) 4. Re: gmail.com problems and this list (Wolfgang S. Rupprecht) 5. Re: t-shirts in the US (Mark Chandler) 6. Tutorials, HowTo's, etc (ramsesoriginal) 7. Re: Shipping costs (Hans van der Merwe) 8. Re: OPENMOKO.COM IS UP (Pedro Aguilar) 9. Re: [France] Grouping orders, (cedric cellier) ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openmoko List Problems
On Thu, 2007-07-12 at 04:04 -0400, Phil Schaffner wrote: From the list archives on the web: ... Not exactly an explanation, but an indication of problems: Harald Welte's blog http://gnumonks.org/~laforge/weblog/2007/07/11#20070711-insanity Wed, 11 Jul 2007 Insanity If you want a status update on OpenMoko: I'm at a point where I won't go to the office again because I know the agression inside myself will turn into physically hurting someone there. Sorry things are going badly and hope there is a turn-around soon. Lots of open source advocates are hoping to see OpenMoko/Neo1973 succeed. Phil ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Neo1973 colors
(Not receiving list emails at the moment due to the server problems, replying to this message found on the web archives). Just want to add that this is pretty important to me too, I've ordered two phones (one for a friend) and I'll be disappointed if they're the wrong color. I've tried twice to email about my order to ask for the black phones, including the string [rt.internal.openmoko.org #1234] in the subject as instructed in the we received your order email, but both times get a rt could not load a valid user error reply message. Justyn Tom wrote: On the online shot it is now possible to choose the color of the neo when ordering, but is there any news for us that have already ordered before ones before this. And is there an estimate date when the confirmation e-mail will be sent, cause with the last days mailling list bug, I don't known if it was send and not received or just not already sent. Thanks Tom ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Open Source In Mobile (OSiM) conference, September, Spain
From their website: The World's Largest Forum for Mobile Linux and Open Source OSiM 2007 responds to the explosive growth of Open Source and Linux integration in mobile devices. It provides the information you require as you enter this complex space; bringing together the key players in this new ecosystem for hundreds of networking and partnership opportunities. http://www.osimconference.com/newt/l/handsetsvision/osim/index.html Anyone going to be there? If there is no official OpenMoko representation, perhaps one of you would organize a BoF? Michael ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Not a singe mail received from community list server since 2007.0710-08:08 UTC
Hello community, just want to ask whether anybody of you experienced the same. I've checked on http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2007-July/date.html and saw: Last message date: Wed Jul 11 18:16:38 CEST 2007 From this I conclude, that at least list input is still working. Obviously I won't receive any answer from the list, as long as nothing changes, but I'll look at above URL; any answers should end up there, too. Yesterday I ordered 3 neo-base and 3 neo-advanced and was able to finish all three steps. Just the confirmation mail is missing (I guess reason is the same - not yet known - as for not receiving list mails). Thanks for your help and comments. Andreas ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
All is Very quiet the last few days....
Ever since I signed up to the OpenMoko lists, i've gotten several emails everyday However, the last 2 days i've received nothing at all Is this a gmail problem or is something bad happening with the OpenMoko group and FIC? Also wondering how the ordering and shipping is going - stilll haven't gotten any confirmation of order processing from my order on Monday morning... --clayton ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Web Shop Step 1...
I fill out shipping and billing/info, click submit, and get a blank https://direct.openmoko.com/cgi-bin/order.cgi (using firefox 2.0.0.4, nothing wacky) - is this openmoko's way of saying they are out of phones :) -Bryan ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Car Kit for purchasing
Sean Moss-Pultz schrieb: On Jul 8, 2007, at 7:22 PM, Peter Trapp wrote: In the first announements there were the possiblity to buy a car kit for the NEO1973. Are there news on that? Prices, Contents... Probably not until GTA02. We had some issues with the cables and decided not to focus on that now. Yes, ok! I can not even imagine the amount of work you did and that's so wonderfull... I just wanted to save a couple of shipping cost ;) Go on and forget about the car kit ... -homyx ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: All is Very quiet the last few days....
I am really beginning to wonder if its a Gmail problem. I have gotten no new mail in like 2 days, then all of the sudden I have nearly 40 messages in my inbox in the last 5 mins. On 7/11/07, Clayton Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ever since I signed up to the OpenMoko lists, i've gotten several emails everyday However, the last 2 days i've received nothing at all Is this a gmail problem or is something bad happening with the OpenMoko group and FIC? Also wondering how the ordering and shipping is going - stilll haven't gotten any confirmation of order processing from my order on Monday morning... --clayton ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GNU GPL license of OpenEinstein
Ignore what you've heard about its performance; later Newton models have reportedly the best handwriting recognition available. Does this mean we could get this part (handwriting recognition) to work on OpenMoko or even on something like an Ubuntu desktop ? AFAIK: no. Einstein is just (I really appreciate their work!) the Emulator. Handwriting is part of the Newton OS and I think you still need a licence for that. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[France] OpenMoko press review
Hi everybody, for the French community, some of the news we can find about OpenMoko below : http://fr.gizmodo.com/2007/07/09/openmoko_neo1973_le_vrai_telep.html http://www.cnet-gadget.fr/2007/07/09/openmoko-le-mobile-pour-hackers-ou-developpeurs/ http://www.ultimatepocket.com/index.php?option=com_contenttask=viewid=3354Itemid=41 http://www.silicon.fr/fr/silicon/news/2007/07/10/neo1973-un-t-l-phone-linux-tr-s http://www.macplus.net/magplus/depeche-14902-un-concurrent-pour-l-iphone Regards, Foucault ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: openmoko UI/UE Guidelines
Hi again, The discussion will hopefully continue in the developer mailing list instead: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/openmoko-devel/2007-July/001072.html (please respond to the above link instead) /Simon ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: order confirmation numbers
Am 10.07.2007 um 21:09 schrieb Jonas Meyer: I think I submitted my order in the first 4 minutes that the site was online. I was hoping that I would be able to get in on that first 1000 phones they had waiting to ship and that I wouldn't have to wait for another run. However, my order number was 1856. That might imply that I was order number 1856, or it might imply that I was not, if they didn't start the order numbers at 1 or they didn't count up by 1. 2 questions for the list. 1) What was everyone's order number? Mine is also 18xx so I would assume they started with 1800. 2) Has anyone received the SECOND email that the first email promised? My confirmation email states Please keep in mind that this message does not imply that we accept your order, but thats we have received it. You will receive another message as order confirmation after our staff has accepted it. So has anyone gotten that order accepted email? Not yet. Please read this and think what you like to think: http://gnumonks.org/~laforge/weblog/2007/07/11/ ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: All is Very quiet the last few days....
No, it's a general problem. I think no one received any email the past 48 hours. It's working now though :o). --Ulrik On Thursday 12 July 2007 14:57:16 Alan Ide wrote: I am really beginning to wonder if its a Gmail problem. I have gotten no new mail in like 2 days, then all of the sudden I have nearly 40 messages in my inbox in the last 5 mins. On 7/11/07, Clayton Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ever since I signed up to the OpenMoko lists, i've gotten several emails everyday However, the last 2 days i've received nothing at all Is this a gmail problem or is something bad happening with the OpenMoko group and FIC? Also wondering how the ordering and shipping is going - stilll haven't gotten any confirmation of order processing from my order on Monday morning... --clayton ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
What about receiving an invoice for Neo?
Hi, I work for a company that want to purchase 3 handsets (including 2 adv boxes) but in the registration form there's no place for our tax ID number. Does anybody know how can we receive an invoice for these phones, so we can exclude costs from our tax? I'm responsible for ordering phones but I cannot do it until I know how to receive invoices. I wrote on [EMAIL PROTECTED] and even directly to Sean, but no-one responded. I suppose that people at OpenMoko.com have very busy time. Please help me if somebody know the answer. Best regards, -- *Bartlomiej Zdanowski* Programmer Product Research Development Department AutoGuard Insurance Ltd. Omulewska 27 street 04-128 Warsaw Poland phone +48 22 611 69 23 www.autoguard.pl http://www.autoguard.pl begin:vcard fn;quoted-printable:Bart=C5=82omiej Zdanowski n;quoted-printable:Zdanowski;Bart=C5=82omiej org;quoted-printable:AutoGuard Insurance Sp. z o.o.;Dzia=C5=82 Rozwoju Produkt=C3=B3w adr:;;ul. Omulewska 27;Warszawa;;04-128;Polska email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:Programista AC2 tel;work:022 611 69 23 tel;cell:603 525 105 x-mozilla-html:TRUE url:http://www.autoguard.pl version:2.1 end:vcard ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Charging the NEO1973
Tim Shannon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: According to the wiki, charging the battery is always done through the USB socket. Does that mean that the NEO is only chargable from a computer, or is there a USB cord that plugs into a wall socket included. I don't know about everyone else, but I want want to bring my NEO to places where I don't want to lug around a computer I suppose the alternative is to buy a powered USB hug, and plug that into the wall, and the NEO into that. There are a lot of different USB chargers. For in wall sockets and for in your car. :) Just look on eBay, or perhaps your local electronics store. --- Marcel ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: order confirmation numbers
2007/7/12, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Please read this and think what you like to think: http://gnumonks.org/~laforge/weblog/2007/07/11/ I am completly confused about this Haralds blog entry. Any rumors about it? ;-) cayco ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA02 Board only option in October?
The potential for this option is what made me order one now instead of October. I really hope Sean decides this would be a good idea. -Eric ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: gmail.com problems and this list
David Ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That wouldn't cause duplicates. You got a 550 error which means delivery was not attempted. I got a 550 because my machine sent them a 550 for their probe-back. If my machine waited to answer their probe-back they would wait too. If my timers were set to break the connection after they hung for a certain amount of time, my machine would think the transaction didn't happen but the remote machine might well assume it was good enough and deliver the message. And yes, waiting a while after accepting the SMTP connections is a common anti-spam trick. It lets your SMTP see if the other side is a simple timed shell scripts that doesn't really read the SMTP replies. Probe-backs also get confused by 450 graylisting which will lead to retries. Feel free to claim that every SMTP server in the rest of the world is all conspiring against openmoko.org. The bottom line is they have DNS errors and are using a silly probe-back method that isn't very robust. -wolfgang -- Wolfgang S. Rupprechthttp://www.wsrcc.com/wolfgang/ IPv6 on Fedora 7 http://www.wsrcc.com/wolfgang/fedora/ipv6-tunnel.html ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA02 Board only option in October?
On Thursday 12 July 2007 15:26, Eric Heinemann wrote: The potential for this option is what made me order one now instead of October. I really hope Sean decides this would be a good idea. -Eric I understood from his post that a discount on a complete unit for buyers of the dev phones is also an option. Somewhere I read that it is still unclear whether a direct transplant of motherboard is possible. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: What about receiving an invoice for Neo?
Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller pisze: I work for a company that want to purchase 3 handsets (including 2 adv boxes) but in the registration form there's no place for our tax ID number. Does anybody know how can we receive an invoice for these phones, so we can exclude costs from our tax? I guess since they send from the US to the EU, there is no VAT charged by the US tax authorities you could ask to get back. It is not the point to get VAT back but to indicate what these devices came from. I will pay with company's money so it should be endicated where did this money go and what for. And that what the invoice is for. If they won't write our tax id number on it, the invoice will be invalid. Ah I see. But what I recommend is to check if that is also required for imports from the US or if this rule is for local business only (within one country). I have never been asked to specify my VAT ID for any purchase (unless I want to have taxfree intra-community delivery). And there is always the address of the origin written on the invoice - which is the US. So you have a proof where it came from. Your tax id written on the invoice wouldn't help IMHO. For German Taxation rules they just must write their name, the country of origin and the money amount and what they did deliver 1 unit OpenMoko. But not my tax ID - because I as the receiver don't necessarily have one. And for your import you will also get a separate receipt for any import duties you will have to pay. They must only write my VAT ID if they would be shipping from *within* the EU *and* doing an intracommunity tax free delivery. But they ship from the US into the EU so IMHO this rule does not apply. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA02 Board only option in October?
A discounted upgrade pack would be even better. It could be less of a discount and still have a smaller overall price. Thats good for everyone On 7/12/07, Frans Grotepass [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 12 July 2007 15:26, Eric Heinemann wrote: The potential for this option is what made me order one now instead of October. I really hope Sean decides this would be a good idea. -Eric I understood from his post that a discount on a complete unit for buyers of the dev phones is also an option. Somewhere I read that it is still unclear whether a direct transplant of motherboard is possible. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: order confirmation numbers
On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 15:00:52 +0200 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am 10.07.2007 um 21:09 schrieb Jonas Meyer: I think I submitted my order in the first 4 minutes that the site was online. I was hoping that I would be able to get in on that first 1000 phones they had waiting to ship and that I wouldn't have to wait for another run. However, my order number was 1856. That might imply that I was order number 1856, or it might imply that I was not, if they didn't start the order numbers at 1 or they didn't count up by 1. 2 questions for the list. 1) What was everyone's order number? Mine is also 18xx so I would assume they started with 1800. 18xx here as well... 2) Has anyone received the SECOND email that the first email promised? My confirmation email states Please keep in mind that this message does not imply that we accept your order, but thats we have received it. You will receive another message as order confirmation after our staff has accepted it. So has anyone gotten that order accepted email? Not yet. I haven't either, starting to wonder if it will ever arrive (I'm used to one business day typically before I receive my order confirmations). As the advanced unit was only depicted in black/silver I did't write any note regarding the colour of the unit. As this has changed I tried to write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (with the [rt.internal.openmoko.org #18xx] included in the subject), telling them that I liked the black/silver combination. (And querying about the status of the order confirmation) This only gave me an e-mail with the subject Could not load a valid user And the message: RT could not load a valid user, and RT's configuration does not allow for the creation of a new user for your email. Have tried to write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] without the request tracker code, no error nor reply... I hope my order isn't lost inside there system somehow as I want the unit quite badly. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA02 Board only option in October?
I'll add an obligatory me too as well. Usually it wouldn't matter but money has been tight with all the recent vet. bills i've had to pay. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA02 Board only option in October?
But what are you guys planning on doing with the old board at that point? Throw it away? I would suggest keeping the old phone intact and just selling it when you get the new phone. You should get a pretty good discount that way. And that way there are more neos out there circulating and that's better for everyone. -Brad ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
FAQ in progress
Community, We're trying to get this FAQ going to help answer all the questions we're getting: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/SH1_FAQ If you see anything missing please help us out. Thanks! Sean ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Charging the NEO1973
Tim According to the wiki, charging the battery is always done through the USB socket. Does that mean that the NEO is only chargable from a computer I have tried charging from other methods (generic cigarette-lighter to mini usb, solar cell, crank charger) and none of them currently work for fast charging. They may work for the slow charge, but the slow charge is too slow to be useful. The wiki says the neo could do a fast charging from these non-host-computer usb ports by trying to pull 500mA when the host does not respond for 30 seconds, but as of about a week ago, the development image does not implement this trick. I might cut open a usb cable and put in the pull-down resistor to see if that works. Brad ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Hardware question
On Thursday 12 July 2007 16:38:37 Marc Verwerft wrote: - faster graphics (but since this is under NDA, it might take 6-9 months or so before you can see the benefits of it) - more memory Which means FLASH in this case (i.e. non volatile storage), I think RAM is 128MB on both. pgpfHiRBBzWr1.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: All is Very quiet the last few days....
On 12/07/07, Ulrik Rasmusen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, it's a general problem. I think no one received any email the past 48 hours. So that explains this sudden boom. I have missed a few emails but received a few others, but that might be because this is not the only OpenMoko list I'm subscribed to. It's working now though :o). --Ulrik On Thursday 12 July 2007 14:57:16 Alan Ide wrote: I am really beginning to wonder if its a Gmail problem. I have gotten no new mail in like 2 days, then all of the sudden I have nearly 40 messages in my inbox in the last 5 mins. On 7/11/07, Clayton Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ever since I signed up to the OpenMoko lists, i've gotten several emails everyday However, the last 2 days i've received nothing at all Is this a gmail problem or is something bad happening with the OpenMoko group and FIC? Also wondering how the ordering and shipping is going - stilll haven't gotten any confirmation of order processing from my order on Monday morning... --clayton ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Vincent ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Charging the NEO1973
I wouldn't bother cutting your cable. Right now, the neo will only switch to 500mA charging when it is successfully enumerated as a high-power device. The only way you'll get it to fast charge from a power-only source, will be to change the software to something like you mentioned. It shouldn't need to take 30 seconds though. Once the neo attempts enumeration (by pulling up on D+ with a 1k resistor), the host should issue a usb reset (single-ended zero) within 500ms. If that doesn't happen, there is no host. On 7/12/07, Brad Midgley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tim According to the wiki, charging the battery is always done through the USB socket. Does that mean that the NEO is only chargable from a computer I have tried charging from other methods (generic cigarette-lighter to mini usb, solar cell, crank charger) and none of them currently work for fast charging. They may work for the slow charge, but the slow charge is too slow to be useful. The wiki says the neo could do a fast charging from these non-host-computer usb ports by trying to pull 500mA when the host does not respond for 30 seconds, but as of about a week ago, the development image does not implement this trick. I might cut open a usb cable and put in the pull-down resistor to see if that works. Brad ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: order confirmation numbers
I'm in exactly the same boat, I didn't specify that I want black/silver, but when I try to write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the rt.internal... string in I get the same error/ Justyn On 12/07/07, Visti Andresen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As the advanced unit was only depicted in black/silver I did't write any note regarding the colour of the unit. As this has changed I tried to write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (with the [rt.internal.openmoko.org #18xx] included in the subject), telling them that I liked the black/silver combination. (And querying about the status of the order confirmation) This only gave me an e-mail with the subject Could not load a valid user And the message: RT could not load a valid user, and RT's configuration does not allow for the creation of a new user for your email. Have tried to write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] without the request tracker code, no error nor reply... I hope my order isn't lost inside there system somehow as I want the unit quite badly. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: What apps will be included with GTA02 phone?
Pretty much depends on what the community writes I'd guess. Ortwin On 7/10/07, Jonathan Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Given what has been said about the GTA02 phone being targeted at end users, it will (I assume) various apps that end users expect on their phones. Have FIC and the OpenMoko team had any thoughts about what applications will be shipped pre-installed on GTA02 phones? Will it simply be the same core apps ( i.e. the minimum needed to make it a usable phone) that come with GTA01 phones? My apologies if this is the wrong list or if it has been discussed before (I read the archives of various OpenMoko lists to see if it has been discussed anywhere and didnt find anything) ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Open Source In Mobile (OSiM) conference, September, Spain
It's on the wiki already... ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: What apps will be included with GTA02 phone?
They have stated that their goal is to be almost entirely market driven. So, they will probably include everybody's favorite/most used applications -Brad On 7/12/07, Ortwin Regel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pretty much depends on what the community writes I'd guess. Ortwin On 7/10/07, Jonathan Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Given what has been said about the GTA02 phone being targeted at end users, it will (I assume) various apps that end users expect on their phones. Have FIC and the OpenMoko team had any thoughts about what applications will be shipped pre-installed on GTA02 phones? Will it simply be the same core apps ( i.e. the minimum needed to make it a usable phone) that come with GTA01 phones? My apologies if this is the wrong list or if it has been discussed before (I read the archives of various OpenMoko lists to see if it has been discussed anywhere and didnt find anything) ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: What apps will be included with GTA02 phone?
Ortwin Regel wrote: Pretty much depends on what the community writes I'd guess. I'm a bit concerned that the community will have these GTA01 phones when writing software, yet GTA02 has new features that the community can only simulate. For me this sounds like the GTA02 will have cool hardware, but the greater part of the community will only begin to write cool software for it after it gets released. From this perspective it would make sense to me to keep selling GTA01 also after the release of GTA02 for all those moms and dads that a) don't need the new hardware b) don't know how to install the cool GTA02-only software when it becomes available and c) find the GTA01 more affordable.. Otoh, maybe you are doing just that.. -- - xkr47 ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA02 Board only option in October?
Brad Pitcher wrote: But what are you guys planning on doing with the old board at that point? Throw it away? I would suggest keeping the old phone intact and just selling it when you get the new phone. You should get a pretty good discount that way. And that way there are more neos out there circulating and that's better for everyone. At that time there will be absolutely no shortage - the current plan is for P1 to continue to be available right up to Oct, in as high a volume as is required. Even thousands/day. Personally. At that time, I'd reuse the Neo board into something. Add a USB NIC and a USB power supply, and it's an audio streaming box, for example. This is also for other reasons. Spares. If I screw my 01/02 by trying to solder it, I want to buy another PCB. If I break the USB jack off the board by misusing it, the same. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: What apps will be included with GTA02 phone?
On 7/12/07, Jonas Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm a bit concerned that the community will have these GTA01 phones when writing software, yet GTA02 has new features that the community can only simulate. For me this sounds like the GTA02 will have cool hardware, but the greater part of the community will only begin to write cool software for it after it gets released. While SH1 owners cannot directly write for the new hardware in GTA02 (WiFi / accelerometers), they will be writing and expanding a lot of the other core applications (contacts, dialer, calendar, timer, etc.). But I share your concern that well-tested and intuitive software will be the most important thing to a new end-user (even though they may not think, I want well-tested and intuitive apps.). It will be difficult for the community to write for the new hardware without access to it. Maybe the wizards in the core team will make the first whiz-bang apps for the new hardware. My hope is that the slower processor in SH1 will encourage (or force ;-) the community to write efficient and simple code and not encourage them to just let it slide until the newer/faster processor is available. Joe ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Cheers for Harald
to, 2007-07-12 kello 04:43 -0400, Phil Schaffner kirjoitti: Harald Welte's blog http://gnumonks.org/~laforge/weblog/2007/07/11#20070711-insanity [...] Eyeing at the earlier posts and other stuff on what's been going on, no wonder there's some burnout (one assumes) going around... Thanks for all your commentary and work so far, don't kill yourself with it. I'm sure I speak for more than myself in wishing you a speedy but decidedly not hurried recovery. -- Mikko Rauhala [EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Helsinki ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Charging the NEO1973
On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 9:42, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or hack a USB socket onto one of the many discarded 5V chargers you have lying around. If your house is like mine, they seem to show up out of nowhere. Michael So that's what happens to all of the 5v chargers I place in the drying machine!! Now if I could only find out where the socks go --Tim ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Charging the NEO1973
I'm holding your socks hostage for those chargers :-) On Thu, 12 Jul 2007, Tim Newsom wrote: On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 9:42, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or hack a USB socket onto one of the many discarded 5V chargers you have lying around. If your house is like mine, they seem to show up out of nowhere. Michael So that's what happens to all of the 5v chargers I place in the drying machine!! Now if I could only find out where the socks go --Tim ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FAQ in progress
On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 22:56:16 +0800 Sean Moss-Pultz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Community, We're trying to get this FAQ going to help answer all the questions we're getting: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/SH1_FAQ If you see anything missing please help us out. Thanks! Sean Perhaps add a Q) Is it okay that I haven't received an order confirmation yet? A) We are busy.. something something.. it may take a week something something. Q) The Request ticker currently returns an error message, when I try to contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] using a subject containing [rt.internal.openmoko.org #] A) We are aware of the issues, something something I know that at least some people have these issues, perhaps only early buyers? (Including myself) ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Cheers for Harald
Quoting Mikko Rauhala on 07/12/2007 04:39 PM UTC: to, 2007-07-12 kello 04:43 -0400, Phil Schaffner kirjoitti: Harald Welte's blog http://gnumonks.org/~laforge/weblog/2007/07/11#20070711-insanity [...] Eyeing at the earlier posts and other stuff on what's been going on, no wonder there's some burnout (one assumes) going around... Thanks for all your commentary and work so far, don't kill yourself with it. I'm sure I speak for more than myself in wishing you a speedy but decidedly not hurried recovery. Right on.. Take care! -- - xkr47 ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: community Digest, Vol 35, Issue 10
Someone has done the work for you: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973:_GTA01Bv4_versus_GTA02_comparison -Steven On 7/10/07, Chrtistopher Howell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can anyone tell me how much different the hardware will be In Oct for retail release from this current developers release of the handset. I am eager to play with the current release but would hate to have to shell out another $450 in Oct for a hardware handset upgrade. To be honest, I have not done anything in a Linux environment since I got SUSE to run on my new PPC Mac back in 1998 but this handset has inspired me. Chris -Chris Amateurs learn tactics- professionals study logistics. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 10:12:07 To:community@lists.openmoko.org Subject: community Digest, Vol 35, Issue 10 Send community mailing list submissions to community@lists.openmoko.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can reach the person managing the list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of community digest... Today's Topics: 1. Re: Shipping costs (Shawn Rutledge) 2. Re: Store info - shipping costs to Germany (Peter Trapp) 3. Re: Web Shop Site Problem (Richi Plana) 4. Re: gmail.com problems and this list (Wolfgang S. Rupprecht) 5. Re: t-shirts in the US (Mark Chandler) 6. Tutorials, HowTo's, etc (ramsesoriginal) 7. Re: Shipping costs (Hans van der Merwe) 8. Re: OPENMOKO.COM IS UP (Pedro Aguilar) 9. Re: [France] Grouping orders, (cedric cellier) ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Hardware question
There's a page on the wiki about this: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973:_GTA01Bv4_versus_GTA02_comparison As you can see, they do have the same amount of RAM. It's the NVRAM that has increased in size. -Steven On 7/12/07, Gabriel Ambuehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 12 July 2007 16:38:37 Marc Verwerft wrote: - faster graphics (but since this is under NDA, it might take 6-9 months or so before you can see the benefits of it) - more memory Which means FLASH in this case (i.e. non volatile storage), I think RAM is 128MB on both. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FAQ in progress
It is a wiki. You can add any questions you come up with right there. If you receive a response via email, add the answer to the wiki too. -Steven On 7/12/07, Visti Andresen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 22:56:16 +0800 Sean Moss-Pultz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Community, We're trying to get this FAQ going to help answer all the questions we're getting: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/SH1_FAQ If you see anything missing please help us out. Thanks! Sean Perhaps add a Q) Is it okay that I haven't received an order confirmation yet? A) We are busy.. something something.. it may take a week something something. Q) The Request ticker currently returns an error message, when I try to contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] using a subject containing [rt.internal.openmoko.org #] A) We are aware of the issues, something something I know that at least some people have these issues, perhaps only early buyers? (Including myself) ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: All is Very quiet the last few days....
Thanks Andreas! Actually, a while after making this post i thought i recalled seeing gmail problems in one of the posts, found and read thru that thread and decided that it must be a gmail problem... Sorry for cluttering up the list with more fluff mails, but seeing what Ulrik said it looks like it was a bigger problem than just gmail... I'm wondering if so many of us were flooding the OM servers with orders that we crashed the whole thing... :) cheers, clayton On 7/12/07, Andreas Kaeser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Clayton Jones wrote: Ever since I signed up to the OpenMoko lists, i've gotten several emails everyday However, the last 2 days i've received nothing at all Is this a gmail problem or is something bad happening with the OpenMoko group and FIC? Hi Clayton, the same happened to me, see http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2007-July/006770.html I found your message in the lists archive, but not on my inbox :-( However, a few minutes ago 4 mails from the list showed up, the newest one dated 2007.0710-09:31 UTC. Maybe the list server is starting to recover? Sorry, I copied Clayton's topic to the subject line, but I can't properly reply to his mail, because I didn't receive it; thread view most probably won't work correctly. Greetings, Andreas ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: What apps will be included with GTA02 phone?
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Applications has the original plan for which applications will be available when. I don't know if all the things planned for Phase 1 made it into the device. I would assume there will be a flurry of activity to get them and everything originally planned for Phase 2 ready by October. -Steven On 7/10/07, Jonathan Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Given what has been said about the GTA02 phone being targeted at end users, it will (I assume) various apps that end users expect on their phones. Have FIC and the OpenMoko team had any thoughts about what applications will be shipped pre-installed on GTA02 phones? Will it simply be the same core apps (i.e. the minimum needed to make it a usable phone) that come with GTA01 phones? My apologies if this is the wrong list or if it has been discussed before (I read the archives of various OpenMoko lists to see if it has been discussed anywhere and didnt find anything) ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: All is Very quiet the last few days....
I thought it was because everybody had finally ordered and were in catatonic waiting state... Like nobody got questions now, they wanna touch! Kindof like when you're a bunch of people around a table waiting for diner and then it arrives, silence around the table for like 5 minutes (or only the slurp sounds of eating). Lol! Simon On 7/11/07, Clayton Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ever since I signed up to the OpenMoko lists, i've gotten several emails everyday However, the last 2 days i've received nothing at all Is this a gmail problem or is something bad happening with the OpenMoko group and FIC? Also wondering how the ordering and shipping is going - stilll haven't gotten any confirmation of order processing from my order on Monday morning... --clayton ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA02 Board only option in October?
I have to agree with Ian. I'd probably add usb wireless and just use it as a Myth remote. And if i can't find anything to do with it, i might just keep it around as a spare board in case i manage to break something or something like that. Maybe even board only upgrades for a while. I mean that lcd is very very good and i don't see a reason not to let people get the most out of it, and as the lcd is probably the most expensive part they could sell the board at a higher markup and get a larger profit, yet we'd still end up paying less. Now that sounds like decent economics. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[Nederlanders opgelet] Dutch newspaper blog about OpenMoko phone
This article on the blog site of a Dutch newspaper: http://weblogs.nrc.nl/weblog/hebben/2007/07/12/gratis-software-voor-je-gehackte-smartphone/ ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: All is Very quiet the last few days....
Simon writes: I thought it was because everybody had finally ordered and were in catatonic waiting state... Like nobody got questions now, they wanna touch! Kindof like when you're a bunch of people around a table waiting for diner and then it arrives, silence around the table for like 5 minutes (or only the slurp sounds of eating). Unfortunately, we're in the state of having just given the waiter our orders... ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Nederlanders opgelet] Dutch newspaper blog about OpenMoko phone
On 12/07/07, Eric van Horssen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This article on the blog site of a Dutch newspaper: http://weblogs.nrc.nl/weblog/hebben/2007/07/12/gratis-software-voor-je-gehackte-smartphone/ een telefoon met fraaie afgeronde hoeken That's actually a compliment about the rounded corners, haven't heard that in a while ;-) Anyway, it did mention that you'd better wait for the next hardware update, but only because it has more features. It doesn't mention the current one isn't really ready for their audience at all. Also, I guess when the author says navigational software shouldn't be a problem because TomTom runs Linux, he's wrong, right? (That was a weird sentence) -- Vincent ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA02 Board only option in October?
On 7/12/07, Bryce Leo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have to agree with Ian. I'd probably add usb wireless and just use it as a Myth remote. And if i can't find anything to do with it, i A remote is a good idea (maybe gta02 will get an IRDA emitter/detector). My idea for what to do with gta01 is to mount it in the wall as part of a home-automation system, or mount it in something that looks more like a picture frame and run a (tiny) slideshow on it. Don ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
TomTom (was Re: [Nederlanders opgelet] Dutch newspaper blog about OpenMoko phone)
Also, I guess when the author says navigational software shouldn't be a problem because TomTom runs Linux, he's wrong, right? (That was a weird sentence) Some or all of the commercial TomTom units run Linux internally, and, they have software-only products (e.g., I think this is what Palm resells for some Treo models). Putting that together, one can predict that TomTom *might* offer an Arm-Linux-Based software-only product that would work on OpenMoko, when the volume sales of OpenMoko are there. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Nederlanders opgelet] Dutch newspaper blog about OpenMoko phone
On 7/12/07, Vincent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip een telefoon met fraaie afgeronde hoeken That's actually a compliment about the rounded corners, haven't heard that in a while ;-) snip Also, I guess when the author says navigational software shouldn't be a problem because TomTom runs Linux, he's wrong, right? (That was a weird sentence) No, TomTom runs on a flavor of Linux. -- Vincent In one of the recent episodes of the Dutch podcast ICTroddels.nl, they also mentioned the Neo1973, but they made a few factual errors. Which I hopefully corrected in their comments. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FeedBack
Mario, AFAIK, nobody has received their phone yet. We have been warned multiple times that we should not expect much from this first round of devices. That said, I would be willing to bet that as soon as the phones start shipping, you will see a bunch of updates. -Jason On Thursday 12 July 2007 12:31:46 Mario Costa wrote: Hi all, Is there any wiki page on recent users feedback ? I mean, what new users feel about using the phone, SMS, PIM apps, syncronization, backups, etc, etc, etc. It feels slow, fast, poor apps, can/can´t sync with linux desktop/laptop, etc ? Thanks MC ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA02 Board only option in October?
Don Park wrote: On 7/12/07, Bryce Leo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have to agree with Ian. I'd probably add usb wireless and just use it as a Myth remote. And if i can't find anything to do with it, i A remote is a good idea (maybe gta02 will get an IRDA emitter/detector). My idea for what to do with gta01 is to mount it in the wall as part of a home-automation system, or mount it in something that looks more like a picture frame and run a (tiny) slideshow on it. As I understand it, a PSP display should more-or-less trivially attach to the LCD port. (with an appropriate flex-cable, and very minimal hardware) That for example would make it a nice car-computer display. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Charging the NEO1973
You do not need to buy anything, the package should include USB charger: (http://www.flickr.com/photos/hrwandil/413641858/in/photostream/) Piotr Tim Shannon pisze: According to the wiki, charging the battery is always done through the USB socket. Does that mean that the NEO is only chargable from a computer, or is there a USB cord that plugs into a wall socket included. I don't know about everyone else, but I want want to bring my NEO to places where I don't want to lug around a computer I suppose the alternative is to buy a powered USB hug, and plug that into the wall, and the NEO into that. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: modular open phone components
you might be into this as well then - all sorts of components including modular embedded systems. lots of modules: gps, gsm, lcd, ethernet http://www.sparkfun.com On 7/13/07, Don Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thanks for the notice - that is very cool news. i havent heard of the verdix motherboards until just now. ive been waiting forever for USB HOST functionality. thanks again! Don On 7/12/07, Robin Paulson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: well, very interesting. modular components for a DIY phone, from the makers of gumstix. GSM, GPRS/EDGE and GPS modules included http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS5947466557.html no explicit word on the documentation of the hardware/avaialbility of free drivers, but the tone tells me doc will be forthcoming the CTO of the manufacturers talked about OM and it being relatively easy to port to this ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
List problems, receiving multiple identical copies of each message
Hello, Just after I started receiving mails from the mailing list again, something weird happened. It seems like some messages are sent out 3-4 times over a period of up to 12-14 hours. They have the same timestamp and the same content, so they are completely identical. For instance, I recevied the message modular open phone components yesterday at 20:03, 20:12, 20:34, 21:12, 23:52, and then this morning at 01:43 (all times GMT) Am I the only one having this problem? --Ulrik ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: List problems, receiving multiple identical copies of each message
Ulrik Rasmusen wrote: Hello, Just after I started receiving mails from the mailing list again, something weird happened. It seems like some messages are sent out 3-4 times over a period of up to 12-14 hours. They have the same timestamp and the same content, so they are completely identical. For instance, I recevied the message modular open phone components yesterday at 20:03, 20:12, 20:34, 21:12, 23:52, and then this morning at 01:43 (all times GMT) Am I the only one having this problem? --Ulrik no. it's the google 777 bug. -david ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA02 Board only option in October?
Now ian that's a sweet Idea but the only problem is finding a place to buy a psp display! For 289 I can get these http://teptronics.com/pl9phrb.html two things, just as trivially I have two 9in diagonal screens that I can use for just about anything! But yes, i very much see where you're going. Heck, it'd be a pretty cool thinclient setup to build into a lap-board or tray while you're eating. Have some news feeds or soemthing like that going through. The possibilities are endless! ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
gmail again
Just a note since the people at openmoko said they've got a filter preventing duplicate message IDs: the gmail problem is back. Their posts are getting re-run over and over ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
How modular is openmoko?
Hi all, I'd like to know in broad terms how modular the codebase of openmoko is. I'm asking because I'd like to determine how practical it would be to put a custom Matchbox interface onto the rest of the software stack. This would obviously break compatibility with the gui applications, so it wouldn't simply be a minor customization. Thanks in advance for your thoughts. Jack ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: List problems, receiving multiple identical copies of each message
Ulrik, No you are not the only one. Other members of the list have fingered Gmail as the source of the problem. It seems that any mail coming from that domain is getting duplicated. -Jason On Thursday 12 July 2007 21:30:24 Ulrik Rasmusen wrote: Hello, Just after I started receiving mails from the mailing list again, something weird happened. It seems like some messages are sent out 3-4 times over a period of up to 12-14 hours. They have the same timestamp and the same content, so they are completely identical. For instance, I recevied the message modular open phone components yesterday at 20:03, 20:12, 20:34, 21:12, 23:52, and then this morning at 01:43 (all times GMT) Am I the only one having this problem? --Ulrik ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Color choice, etc.
On Jul 9, 2007, at 5:14 AM, andrej w. wrote: Omg. I was so enthusiastic about ordering the neo, that I completely ignored those comment boxes. It would be great to get another chance to chose the prefered color. I don't want to end up with an orange neo inside a black toolbox. ;) Hehe...it seems like we were so excited about selling Neos that we forget to put this field ;-) We'll do something today or tomorrow and make sure all of you guys that have placed an order can update this, too. -Sean ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New Oceans
On Jul 9, 2007, at 8:35 PM, Ben wrote: On 7/1/07, Ben [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 6/28/07, Sean Moss-Pultz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For phase 1 the shipping costs might be a bit high. Perhaps something like US$40 for Australia. For phase 2 we're hoping to get more local distributors. My shipping options are US$81 or US$87 for Australia for the Neo Base and around US$117 for the Advanced - this seems a bit excessive, given the ~US$40 you mentioned earlier... Sorry about this. We are trying to find cheaper ways to get these to you. But I don't see any quick solution. -Sean___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OPENMOKO.COM IS UP
How do you see their order tracking system? emre On 7/10/07, Jonas Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It took almost 29 hours for me, and meanwhile the ticket did not show up in their order tracking system either when I asked about it, so I sent a second order some 8 hours later, which immediately resulted in an email. I then had to cancel the first order when it finally came through.. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Nederlanders opgelet] Dutch newspaper blog about OpenMoko phone
Op 12-07-07 21:58, Eric van Horssen schreef: This article on the blog site of a Dutch newspaper: http://weblogs.nrc.nl/weblog/hebben/2007/07/12/gratis-software-voor-je-gehackte-smartphone/ Bedankt voor die link! For those interested, here follows a quick rough translation. Free software for your hacked smartphone The thing which phone vendors and software developers try to avoid with simlock and serial numbers, is specifically being promoted by OpenMoko: hack your own phone. OpenMoko is an open source group that develops free software for mobile devices. The first hardware that runs on OpenMoko is now available: a phone with good-looking rounded corners, with GPS receiver, GSM/GPRS support and... NO buttons. The Neo1973 does have a touch-interface, and therefore many people declare the device to be an iPhone-killer. However, that seems a bit premature. Most smartphones run on Symbian, Windows Mobile, or UIQ. The iPhone added OS X to that. OpenMoko is a mobile platform which runs on a Linux kernel. In itself that is nothing special, check out this list http://www.linuxdevices.com/articles/AT9423084269.html. But it is pleasant that all available software is free [as in beer --Ed.], and that you already can get a simlock-free smartphone for 300 dollars which works on the OpenMoko platform. There is an application available for OpenMoko that lets you receive free push e-mail http://www.funambol.com/, just like the Blackberry offers. Navigation software should not be a problem either: the TomTom devices that you see on the highway also run on a Linux system. The orange-black Neo1973 looks cool with its round forms and 2.8 inch color screen. However, it doesn't hurt to wait for the next hardware update, when the Neo1973 is equipped with a wifi-receiver and motion sensors. Then you can - just as on the iPhone - flip the screen automatically when you move the phone. This new version will cost 450 dollars, and is available from October. Groetjes, Marnix ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: All is Very quiet the last few days....
Clayton Jones wrote: Ever since I signed up to the OpenMoko lists, i've gotten several emails everyday However, the last 2 days i've received nothing at all Is this a gmail problem or is something bad happening with the OpenMoko group and FIC? Hi Clayton, the same happened to me, see http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2007-July/006770.html I found your message in the lists archive, but not on my inbox :-( However, a few minutes ago 4 mails from the list showed up, the newest one dated 2007.0710-09:31 UTC. Maybe the list server is starting to recover? Sorry, I copied Clayton's topic to the subject line, but I can't properly reply to his mail, because I didn't receive it; thread view most probably won't work correctly. Greetings, Andreas ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Shipping costs
Maybe it is possible to share shiping cost between several people. I have the same issue in St-Petersburg, Russia. On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 15:51:05 +0400, Gena Batsyan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm shocked! I wanted to purchase neo to Belarus - 140 bucks for shipping, that's a half of the device price!!! Western Europe is about 90. What's going on, WHY ??? Are there any plans to reduce shipping costs for the 1st generation of neo in the next future? I'd appreciate any quotes on that. Regards! ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
GMail, silence and other problems
Hi guys (and girl(s)), as far as I can say from my experiences, there was NEVER a break in delivery of message worth to mention the last days. It also seems as if only GMail customers complain about a disruption of operation. During the time, where the GMail customers complained to had an outage, I did not receive any duplicates. Since then I get a lot of duplicates from GMail senders again. So it seems to me as if there are still problems with GMail. Just to let you know. Regards ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GNU GPL license of OpenEinstein
On 7/9/07, Doug Parker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ignore what you've heard about its performance; later Newton models have reportedly the best handwriting recognition available. Does this mean we could get this part (handwriting recognition) to work on OpenMoko or even on something like an Ubuntu desktop ? -- Alexandre Franke GNU/Linux user #390077 ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New Oceans
what about Hong Kong? shipping cost is about 75$, but I'm sure it's more closer to Taiwan than US ;) 2007/7/10, Sean Moss-Pultz [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Jul 9, 2007, at 8:35 PM, Ben wrote: On 7/1/07, Ben [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 6/28/07, Sean Moss-Pultz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For phase 1 the shipping costs might be a bit high. Perhaps something like US$40 for Australia. For phase 2 we're hoping to get more local distributors. My shipping options are US$81 or US$87 for Australia for the Neo Base and around US$117 for the Advanced - this seems a bit excessive, given the ~US$40 you mentioned earlier... Sorry about this. We are trying to find cheaper ways to get these to you. But I don't see any quick solution. -Sean ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Denis Kot denis?jabber.org.by ICQ: 13680126 Mobil: +375 29 6-1234-78 ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Why iPhone using AJAX was genius
On Jul 4, 2007, at 1:45 PM, Gabriel Ambuehl wrote: On Tuesday 03 July 2007 17:03:13 Attila Csipa wrote: Neo1973, like, without case/microSD/power adapter/battery/etc (possibly even without display), just the finished PCB with components ? I think Sean is actively working towards that goal. At least he seemed to like that idea very much. Might even go as far as upgrade mainboards for GTA01-GTA02 if we're lucky. I do like this idea. But right now we're just too overwhelmed trying to handle all these orders and server load. Please give me a bit to get back to you guys about this. -Sean ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: List problems, receiving multiple identical copies of each message
Jason Elwell wrote: Ulrik, No you are not the only one. Other members of the list have fingered Gmail as the source of the problem. It seems that any mail coming from that domain is getting duplicated. Oh never mind my last comment.. I guess you are meaning mail coming _from_ gmail accounts, not mail being sent _to_ gmail accounts. Apologizes for my slow-start brain in the morning :) -- - xkr47 ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [openmoko-announce] Get them while they're still hot!
How well does the Neo work with T-Mobile in terms of signal strength? At my house, a Nokia 6682 has strong reception whereas a Razr keeps losing the network! I'm really interested in getting a Neo for daily use. Thanks. Siraj. Sean Moss-Pultz wrote: Dear Community! Today is the day that we've all been waiting for: We can finally take your order for the world's first freed phone. Neos are waiting in customs just outside our factory in SuZhou. Early this week, they will start their journey to FIC America in Fremont, California. We're sending them by air so they should arrive really fast. (We'll update you as soon as we know more tracking information.) Get them while they're still hot ;-) http://www.openmoko.com Right now we only have the credit card payment option in place. Later this week we should be able to take wire transfers. Now, Free Your Phone. -OpenMoko / FIC -- Siraj Podikunju SP Consulting, Inc. Tel: 360-600-6608 Fax: 360-260-3448 E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
No order confirmation emails etc.
Hello people, :) Just in case anyone has any idea cause [EMAIL PROTECTED] don't seem to be responding. The first day the eshop went online I tried to order a neo, but due to some problems (traffic?) the shop pages stopped loading and stuff... I only got the confirmation page once but one or two times the page stopped loading before anything appeared so I am not even sure how many times the order came through. hehe. I did NOT get a confirmation email that the order was successfull or any other mail indication about it's status or how to track it. Since then I tried to email sales twice but I have not yet received any information on this matter or even the order itself. If anyone had a similar problem I'd be glad to hear how you solved it :) Is there a way to track the order or something? Thank you very much in advance, George Antoniadis ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: List problems, receiving multiple identical copies of each message
Jason Elwell wrote: Ulrik, No you are not the only one. Other members of the list have fingered Gmail as the source of the problem. It seems that any mail coming from that domain is getting duplicated. I wonder why people always blame gmail.. Anyway, the same thing is happening to me just as well, and I definately don't use gmail :) .. or is all openmoko mail going through gmail, even for non-gmail members? :-) -- - xkr47 ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
I added some questions to the faq regarding shipping...
I suspect most of us that ordered a phone are interested in some variant of these questions - http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/SH1_FAQ#Order_Related Order RelatedI've ordered several days ago and received no confirmation that the order was accepted. Is this ok? Will I still get a phone? Are there enough phones for the number of orders? Will FIC produce another GTA01 batch if needed?My order number is will I get a phone from the first batch? Adam ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
