RE: GPS application (was: Request for help: Would like communityapplications to show anddiscuss at LinuxWorld)
On Sat, 2008-08-02 at 11:25 -0700, steve wrote: > Bike mount? > > Or car mount? > > Guillermo how hard is that? The rubber skin is cool: http://www.sureda.org/Portfolio/Electronics/OpenMoko/Accesories/NeoSkin/OpenMoko-NeoSkin-StandardFrame.htm ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GPRS for FSO Milestone 2
> I'll post something to the wiki if there's sufficient interest. Please do so. If not a complete page, at least a note on the GPRS page. (I guess they/we want to have FSO, ASU, OM2007.2 separate pages on the wiki.) / Fredrik Wendt signature.asc Description: Detta är en digitalt signerad meddelandedel ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Removing SMS Messages from OM
On Saturday 02 August 2008 02:33:22 Ken Restivo wrote: > I've asked several times where ASU stores its SMS messages, and never got > any straight answer. > > Where does it store them? In .evolution or in a different place? Different place, use the QMailStore API of Qtopia to access it or the Ad-Hoc D-Bus interface (use your favorite dbus viewer to get the introspection xml). z. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SD Card Fix Fubar
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Well I think I screwed my SD card reader trying to solder on the GPS fix. | | I got the cap soldered on, slamed in an sd card and fired it up. | | No card. Nothing mounted at /media/card and doing a manual mount | produced the error | | mount: special device /dev/mmcblk0p1 does not exist | | BUMMER! | | So pulled the card out, got out the big magnifier and there was a | solder spec between pin 6 and 7! *hit! | | I unsoldered the cap, sucked and scraped all the solder out. Metered | between all the pins to verify no shorts( I know I should have done that | first). Put the card back in and no joy.. nada.. | | Not sure how to proceed now. Is Openmoko going to be taking FR's back | for repairs? It probably ain't FUBAR'd after this "easy" mod ((C)2008 Steve). You should get a cheap multimeter and check for shorts using the Ohm range of that rather than just going by eye. - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkiVddUACgkQOjLpvpq7dMqQmQCfQZO48i/NOszXIThgjjOrr914 NmwAn0meIkHadC1qHG+RYZluBYKn2RQ5 =T6qK -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SD Card Fix Fubar
have you tried a different SD before sending it?? 2008/8/3 Scott Derrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Well I think I screwed my SD card reader trying to solder on the GPS fix. > > I got the cap soldered on, slamed in an sd card and fired it up. > > No card. Nothing mounted at /media/card and doing a manual mount > produced the error > > mount: special device /dev/mmcblk0p1 does not exist > > BUMMER! > > So pulled the card out, got out the big magnifier and there was a > solder spec between pin 6 and 7! *hit! > > I unsoldered the cap, sucked and scraped all the solder out. Metered > between all the pins to verify no shorts( I know I should have done that > first). Put the card back in and no joy.. nada.. > > Not sure how to proceed now. Is Openmoko going to be taking FR's back > for repairs? > > Scott > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Umlauts in Openmoko
2008/8/3 Tobias Kündig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> I just have one question: I'm living in Switzerland, so I type my SMS in
> (Swiss) German. That's why it would be really useful to use Umlauts (ä, ö,
> ü / Ä, Ö, Ü). Unfortunately Umlauts mess up the whole message text. They are
> replaced by {, } or even stranger signs. If I send a message with Umlauts
> from the freerunner, it is displayed correctly on the Freerunner but messed
> up on the receiving device.
This is http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1591
Jeff
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Umlauts in Openmoko
Hello everyone!
I received my Freerunner from Pulster about a week ago! It's a really great
device and absolutely useful! Thanks to everyone who made this possible.
I just have one question: I'm living in Switzerland, so I type my SMS in
(Swiss) German. That's why it would be really useful to use Umlauts (ä, ö,
ü / Ä, Ö, Ü). Unfortunately Umlauts mess up the whole message text. They are
replaced by {, } or even stranger signs. If I send a message with Umlauts
from the freerunner, it is displayed correctly on the Freerunner but messed
up on the receiving device.
I _think_, this has something to do with encoding. Is it possible to patch
something so I can use Umlauts? Is it planned to include support for this
special chars by default?
Thank you very much.
Best regards,
Tobias Kündig
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firmware Re: IMEI
Hi Do we have sources of firmware for GSM chipset? --- On Sat, 8/2/08, Mikko Rauhala <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: Mikko Rauhala <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: IMEI > To: community@lists.openmoko.org > Date: Saturday, August 2, 2008, 7:36 PM > la, 2008-08-02 kello 12:17 -0700, Learning It kirjoitti: > > Where is stored IMEI? > > The GSM chipset. > > > Could it be changed? > > Not in any documented manner. > > -- > Mikko Rauhala - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - > http://www.iki.fi/mjr/> > Transhumanist - WTA member - > http://www.transhumanism.org/> > Singularitarian - SIAI supporter - > http://www.singinst.org/> > > > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: firmware Re: IMEI
su, 2008-08-03 kello 04:12 -0700, Learning It kirjoitti: > Do we have sources of firmware for GSM chipset? No. -- Mikko Rauhala - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.iki.fi/mjr/> Transhumanist - WTA member - http://www.transhumanism.org/> Singularitarian - SIAI supporter - http://www.singinst.org/> ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: firmware Re: IMEI
It means that this project is not totaly open to communityhmmm --- On Sun, 8/3/08, Mikko Rauhala <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: Mikko Rauhala <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: firmware Re: IMEI > To: community@lists.openmoko.org > Date: Sunday, August 3, 2008, 11:18 AM > su, 2008-08-03 kello 04:12 -0700, Learning It kirjoitti: > > Do we have sources of firmware for GSM chipset? > > No. > > -- > Mikko Rauhala - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - > http://www.iki.fi/mjr/> > Transhumanist - WTA member - > http://www.transhumanism.org/> > Singularitarian - SIAI supporter - > http://www.singinst.org/> > > > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: firmware Re: IMEI
no, we haven't, everything with GSM is in a very strict NDA. Learning It schrieb: > Hi > > Do we have sources of firmware for GSM chipset? > > > --- On Sat, 8/2/08, Mikko Rauhala <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> From: Mikko Rauhala <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Subject: Re: IMEI >> To: community@lists.openmoko.org >> Date: Saturday, August 2, 2008, 7:36 PM >> la, 2008-08-02 kello 12:17 -0700, Learning It kirjoitti: >> >>> Where is stored IMEI? >>> >> The GSM chipset. >> >> >>> Could it be changed? >>> >> Not in any documented manner. >> >> -- >> Mikko Rauhala - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - >> http://www.iki.fi/mjr/> >> Transhumanist - WTA member - >> http://www.transhumanism.org/> >> Singularitarian - SIAI supporter - >> http://www.singinst.org/> >> >> >> >> >> ___ >> Openmoko community mailing list >> community@lists.openmoko.org >> http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community >> > > > > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Main page change notification
2008/8/1 Justin Wong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I dont mind the language on top for this page, but if we can get rid > of "Main Page" at the top, that'd be GREAT. Right now, it's taking up > a lot of real estate and I don't think we really need the page name > for this page. > > The changes look good. I like how the "intro" is split up, so for > people who care most about the license stuff, like developers, when > they scroll down a bit, they can see it. > > Cheers! > Justin > > > > On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 8:11 AM, Aaron Sowry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Er... I just moved it back to the bottom before reading this email... sorry! I think changing from one language to another inside the page is actually a rare task, as bookmarks can be set directly to the language of choice. It also makes the page look less cluttered :) >>> >>> Right but this is the main page which new users see first. They need >>> to be able to select their language easily. I can see having all >>> other pages have it on the bottom or not at all. The main page should >>> have it on the top. Many people don't speak english. >>> >> Ok. For the benefit of those non-english speakers who find it too >> difficult to scroll to the bottom of the page once to change languages >> before bookmarking it, I shall leave it as is. :) >> >> ___ >> Openmoko community mailing list >> community@lists.openmoko.org >> http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community >> > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > Hi! I have now removed the second heading saying "Welcome to Openmoko". As soon as we find a way to remove "Main Page" we can add it in again. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: ASU - "desktop" theme instead of ASU theme in X?
More info:
todays upgrade ('opkg update', then 'opkg upgrade') didn't solve the
problem with the "desktop" theme or screen or whatever.
If anybody knows how to get back the standard ASU "look and feel" on
the screen, I will be very happy.
I hope I don't need to reflash my FR to get it fixed.
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Re: ASU - "desktop" theme instead of ASU theme in X?
On Sun, 2008-08-03 at 14:05 +0200, Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote:
> More info:
> todays upgrade ('opkg update', then 'opkg upgrade') didn't solve the
> problem with the "desktop" theme or screen or whatever.
> If anybody knows how to get back the standard ASU "look and feel" on
> the screen, I will be very happy.
>
> I hope I don't need to reflash my FR to get it fixed.
>
I had a "e desktop" as well after applying the fix of Bug #1678. In
my case I had to reinstall illume and do a
rm -rf /home/root/.e
hope this helps,
Norbert
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Re: GPRS for FSO Milestone 2
Hi Chris, Mokos Am Samstag, den 02.08.2008, 14:13 -0700 schrieb C R McClenaghan: > I've been able to hack together the necessary ppp scripts to get GPRS > working on FSO Milestone 2 release. There is a way to use the GPRS panel of SettingsGUI with FSO. You can find a guide on how to use it in the wiki: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/SettingsGUI#FSO_and_ASU_Users Screenshot: http://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/fbc21f56b73a22da77c9b3a69b4c37b7.png Please do not use it unless you know what you are doing. Anyway, I plan to include "native" FSO GPRS support in SettingsGUI soon. Have Fun Kristian -- /* Web: http://www.mput.de | Tel:+49 (0)170/6692447 * * Blog:http://mput.de/blog | ICQ:93248497* * GPG-ID: 4BBB6525 (..2009) | Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED]* * Twitter: kristian_m | MSN:[EMAIL PROTECTED] */ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner-powered bike ride
>> Just want to drop a line that I today made my first bike ride with a >> Freerunner mounted on the handle bar of my bike. If someone is >> interested I could take some photos to show what the mount-kit looks >> like and how the Freerunner fits in. > > [x] Interested! :) I took some photos and uploaded them to my blog: http://andre.web-yard.de/blog/2008/08/03/neo-freerunner-rocks-hard-rides-free/ I'll go for another bike ride right now... ;) André signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: firmware Re: IMEI
Hi. Learning It schrieb: > It means that this project is not totaly open to communityhmmm The fact that specs for the GSM chipset cannot be released to the public was communicated to the community from day 1. Furthermore there is no non-free stuff on the Linux side of things in the Freerunner. Regards Robert > --- On Sun, 8/3/08, Mikko Rauhala <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> From: Mikko Rauhala <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Subject: Re: firmware Re: IMEI >> To: community@lists.openmoko.org >> Date: Sunday, August 3, 2008, 11:18 AM >> su, 2008-08-03 kello 04:12 -0700, Learning It kirjoitti: >>> Do we have sources of firmware for GSM chipset? >> No. >> >> -- >> Mikko Rauhala - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - >> http://www.iki.fi/mjr/> >> Transhumanist - WTA member - >> http://www.transhumanism.org/> >> Singularitarian - SIAI supporter - >> http://www.singinst.org/> >> >> >> >> >> ___ >> Openmoko community mailing list >> community@lists.openmoko.org >> http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > > > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SD Card Fix Fubar
yes Francesco Cat wrote: > have you tried a different SD before sending it?? > > 2008/8/3 Scott Derrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> Well I think I screwed my SD card reader trying to solder on the GPS fix. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GPRS for FSO Milestone 2
Am Samstag 02 August 2008 23:13:41 schrieb C R McClenaghan: > I've been able to hack together the necessary ppp scripts to get GPRS > working on FSO Milestone 2 release. This is for a Freerunner, if it > matters. Hmm, d'oh. Why was that needed? FSO already works w/ GPRS here. Did you try the PDP API? If we need different options for your provider, this has to be encapsulated by the framework daemon. -- :M: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SD Card Fix Fubar
> | I unsoldered the cap, sucked and scraped all the solder out. Metered > | between all the pins to verify no shorts( I know I should have done that > | first). Put the card back in and no joy.. nada.. > | > | Not sure how to proceed now. Is Openmoko going to be taking FR's back > | for repairs? > > It probably ain't FUBAR'd after this "easy" mod ((C)2008 Steve). You > should get a cheap multimeter and check for shorts using the Ohm range > of that rather than just going by eye. said that and did that. thanks ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: firmware Re: IMEI
i think harder than the gsm-nonfree-code are troubles with the glamo chip, i dont like to have a 3d-chip in my phone which does nothing expect of burning energy :( i think these NDA-troubles and the fact that there is no OpenGL ES driver are harder than don't have the gsm-firmware. regards, Arne Robert Schuster schrieb: > Hi. > > Learning It schrieb: > >> It means that this project is not totaly open to communityhmmm >> > The fact that specs for the GSM chipset cannot be released to the public > was communicated to the community from day 1. Furthermore there is no > non-free stuff on the Linux side of things in the Freerunner. > > Regards > Robert > > >> --- On Sun, 8/3/08, Mikko Rauhala <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >>> From: Mikko Rauhala <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> Subject: Re: firmware Re: IMEI >>> To: community@lists.openmoko.org >>> Date: Sunday, August 3, 2008, 11:18 AM >>> su, 2008-08-03 kello 04:12 -0700, Learning It kirjoitti: >>> Do we have sources of firmware for GSM chipset? >>> No. >>> >>> -- >>> Mikko Rauhala - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - >>> http://www.iki.fi/mjr/> >>> Transhumanist - WTA member - >>> http://www.transhumanism.org/> >>> Singularitarian - SIAI supporter - >>> http://www.singinst.org/> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> Openmoko community mailing list >>> community@lists.openmoko.org >>> http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community >>> >> >> >> >> ___ >> Openmoko community mailing list >> community@lists.openmoko.org >> http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community >> >> > > > > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FSO: how to disable zhone screen locking?
On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 18:57:01 -0400 "Craig B. Allen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've been using FSO milestone 2 and liking it. > > Is there a setting to disable the zhone screen locker? If I want to > lock I can just press the Aux button. Not in the current builds, sorry. PM functions, locking and display of signal strength, etc. should eventually all be moved to illume. Regards, Daniel Willmann signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SD Card Fix Fubar
On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 7:13 PM, Scott Derrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Not sure how to proceed now. Is Openmoko going to be taking FR's back > for repairs? Put it up on ebay? I'll bid $50 if the only thing broken is the SD card -- -Johann Koenig ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GSM detection/identification
Matt Joyce wrote: > > The wiki has some interesting info on GSM : > http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Gsm > > The AT commands to interact with the hardware are here : > http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Hardware:AT_Commands > (I wonder if they are an extension of the earlier dial up modem > commands ala Hayes?) > > here's how you use the commands: > http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Gsmd#Usage_of_shell_mode > > these command may work for you : > > r Register to network > R Register to given operator (R=number) > U Unregister from netowrk > P Print current operator > N Print current operator in numeric > L List available operators > Q Read signal quality > nr Query network registration > > As I mentioned, I wanted to find all contactable sites, but didn't > find a command for that. > > That was a huge help. What I need now is a way to pass commands from the cli and have it return values to the cli rather than operating in the shell. So then I can write a script to do it and log to a file. I want it to run while I drive around, so I don't have to stop on tap on the tiny keyboard. Any suggestions? I was able to do the following today, from home: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/var/volatile/log# libgsmd-tool -m shell libgsm-tool - (C) 2006-2007 by Harald Welte and OpenMoko, Inc. This program is Free Software and has ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY L # # List operators 31026 T - Mobile, T - Mob for short, is our current operator 31056 Cellular One DC, Cell On for short, is available 31041 Cingular, Cingula for short, is available ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Current daily snapshots under QEMU
Hi, It seems like recently daily snapshots don't work on QEMU: http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/neo1973/200808/ I tried 20080801 and 20080802. After downloading rootfs, kernel image and u-boot, I flashed qemu with openmoko/flash.sh. After booting it (openmoko/qemu-auto.sh) bootmenu shows up. After clicking Boot, splash screen shows for a little while and boot menu comes again. Any ideas? I tried some snapshots from buildhost.openmoko.org before they were wiped out and 2007.2 worked fine. At least the ones I tried. Another thing it ASU -- there are no images in daily builds. It it somehow broken? I mean, it doesn't build at the moment, right? I'd like to check it out in QEMU -- I'm just about to buy FreeRunner (just waiting for new shipment of them) -- but I have no usable image to test. The ones from http://buildhost.automated.it/OM2007.2/ (which are the backup_download_dir in qemu-neo1973/openmoko/env) just don't work now. Could someone, please shed some light on this? Thanks -- Patryk Cisek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner-powered bike ride
That's exactly what I've been looking for, does it hold it well? Would you be confident going over speed bumps or down a bumpy tracks at speed? Tim On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 1:37 PM, André Gaul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Just want to drop a line that I today made my first bike ride with a >>> Freerunner mounted on the handle bar of my bike. If someone is >>> interested I could take some photos to show what the mount-kit looks >>> like and how the Freerunner fits in. >> >> [x] Interested! :) > > I took some photos and uploaded them to my blog: > http://andre.web-yard.de/blog/2008/08/03/neo-freerunner-rocks-hard-rides-free/ > > I'll go for another bike ride right now... ;) > > André > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GSM detection/identification
Paul Buede wrote: > Matt Joyce wrote: > >> The wiki has some interesting info on GSM : >> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Gsm >> >> The AT commands to interact with the hardware are here : >> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Hardware:AT_Commands >> (I wonder if they are an extension of the earlier dial up modem >> commands ala Hayes?) >> >> here's how you use the commands: >> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Gsmd#Usage_of_shell_mode >> >> these command may work for you : >> >> r Register to network >> R Register to given operator (R=number) >> U Unregister from netowrk >> P Print current operator >> N Print current operator in numeric >> L List available operators >> Q Read signal quality >> nr Query network registration >> >> As I mentioned, I wanted to find all contactable sites, but didn't >> find a command for that. >> >> >> > That was a huge help. What I need now is a way to pass commands from the > cli and have it return values to the cli rather than operating in the > shell. So then I can write a script to do it and log to a file. I want > it to run while I drive around, so I don't have to stop on tap on the > tiny keyboard. Any suggestions? > > I was able to do the following today, from home: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/var/volatile/log# libgsmd-tool -m shell > libgsm-tool - (C) 2006-2007 by Harald Welte and OpenMoko, Inc. > This program is Free Software and has ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY > > L > # # List operators > 31026 T - Mobile, T - Mob for short, is our current operator > 31056 Cellular One DC, Cell On for short, is available > 31041 Cingular, Cingula for short, is available > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > I think you want is : For your operator echo -e "AT+COPS\n" | libgsmd-tool -m atcmd For availabel operators echo -e "AT+COPS=?\n" | libgsmd-tool -m atcmd Please report back if this helps. Matt ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Tmobile GPRS
First off, the phone I have is the gta02. I've tried using the various settings I've found around the net to get pppd working with the T-mobile total internet plan, but I'm having issues with the connection script failing. Using the settings from the T-mobile pppd scripts found on the Wiki, it will get to different stages of dialing each time I try it, but will never connect. If iIuse the gsm tool to send the AT commands manually, or if I echo them out in the connection script, it will get to a point where it just hangs. So, I hit CTRL+C to cancel it and run pppd again and it goes a little further. Eventually I can get past setting the APN, then when it tries to dial, it fails. I've tried both *99***1# and *99# to no avail (Tier level 3 support told me they use *99#). I did get it to connect once but it would disconnect again. I couldn't troubleshoot those problems as I could never get it to connect again. So, for anyone who has gotten it to connect (internet2.voicestream.com), which distribution are you using and which kernel image? Below are the settings I'm using: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# cat /etc/ppp/peers/gprs # /dev/ttySAC0 115200 crtscts lock hide-password defaultroute # set the default route usepeerdns holdoff 3 ipcp-accept-local lcp-echo-failure 12 lcp-echo-interval 3 noauth noipdefault novj novjccomp replacedefaultroute persist debug connect "/usr/sbin/chat -v -f /etc/ppp/tmobile-connect" disconnect "/usr/sbin/chat -v -f /etc/ppp/tmobile-disconnect" [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# cat /etc/ppp/tmobile-connect ECHO ON TIMEOUT 30 ABORT 'BUSY' ABORT 'NO ANSWER' ABORT 'ERROR' SAY 'Starting GPRS connect script\n' ""'ATZ' SAY 'Setting APN\n' OK 'AT+CGDCONT=1,"IP","internet2.voicestream.com"' ABORT 'NO CARRIER' SAY 'Dialing...\n' OK 'ATD*99#' CONNECT '' -Tom ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: firmware Re: IMEI
There is any GSM chipset with full source codes on the net? --- On Sun, 8/3/08, Robert Schuster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: Robert Schuster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: firmware Re: IMEI > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], "List for Openmoko community discussion" > > Date: Sunday, August 3, 2008, 1:11 PM > Hi. > > Learning It schrieb: > > It means that this project is not totaly open to > communityhmmm > The fact that specs for the GSM chipset cannot be released > to the public > was communicated to the community from day 1. Furthermore > there is no > non-free stuff on the Linux side of things in the > Freerunner. > > Regards > Robert > > > --- On Sun, 8/3/08, Mikko Rauhala > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> From: Mikko Rauhala > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> Subject: Re: firmware Re: IMEI > >> To: community@lists.openmoko.org > >> Date: Sunday, August 3, 2008, 11:18 AM > >> su, 2008-08-03 kello 04:12 -0700, Learning It > kirjoitti: > >>> Do we have sources of firmware for GSM > chipset? > >> No. > >> > >> -- > >> Mikko Rauhala - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - > >> http://www.iki.fi/mjr/> > >> Transhumanist - WTA member - > >> http://www.transhumanism.org/> > >> Singularitarian - SIAI supporter - > >> http://www.singinst.org/> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> Openmoko community mailing list > >> community@lists.openmoko.org > >> > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > Openmoko community mailing list > > community@lists.openmoko.org > > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FSO: how to have full qwerty be default keyboard?
Am Sonntag 03 August 2008 00:59:59 schrieb Craig B. Allen: > Is there any way to set the [excellent] full qwerty layout as the default? Raster? -- :M: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FSO: how to disable zhone screen locking?
Am Sonntag 03 August 2008 00:57:01 schrieb Craig B. Allen: > I've been using FSO milestone 2 and liking it. > > Is there a setting to disable the zhone screen locker? If I want to > lock I can just press the Aux button. You can specify the timeouts in seconds /etc/frameworkd.conf, e.g.: [idlenotifier] IDLE_DIM = 1 Since we just integrated illume though, it could be that illume still tries to blank the screen after a while. I don't know offhand how to configure Illume. The general problem is that Illume does not really talk with the middleware yet (another artefact of that is that you still see carrier name and signal strength being painted by Zhone, instead of illume, where it should belong to). We're going to fix all of this hopefully until ms3. -- :M: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FSO: recommendations for media player?
Am Sonntag 03 August 2008 04:57:32 schrieb Craig B. Allen: > Is there a media player that works reasonably well on FSO? > > I tried the one from ASU but it is unusable. > > Thanks. Give openmoko-mediaplayer2 a try. You need to install the Gtk+ theme openmoko-standard-theme-vga though to see all the icons. I think there's work underway to make it work without the special theme (as part of the SHR initiative). -- :M: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: firmware Re: IMEI
no, there isn't, this is because of the contracts and NDA's from all GSM-Cipset-Manufacturer. the GSM-System is one of the best secrets ;) - even better as the new BatMan-Movie Learning It schrieb: > There is any GSM chipset with full source codes on the net? > > > --- On Sun, 8/3/08, Robert Schuster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> From: Robert Schuster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Subject: Re: firmware Re: IMEI >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], "List for Openmoko community discussion" >> >> Date: Sunday, August 3, 2008, 1:11 PM >> Hi. >> >> Learning It schrieb: >> >>> It means that this project is not totaly open to >>> >> communityhmmm >> The fact that specs for the GSM chipset cannot be released >> to the public >> was communicated to the community from day 1. Furthermore >> there is no >> non-free stuff on the Linux side of things in the >> Freerunner. >> >> Regards >> Robert >> >> >>> --- On Sun, 8/3/08, Mikko Rauhala >>> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> From: Mikko Rauhala >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Subject: Re: firmware Re: IMEI To: community@lists.openmoko.org Date: Sunday, August 3, 2008, 11:18 AM su, 2008-08-03 kello 04:12 -0700, Learning It >> kirjoitti: >> > Do we have sources of firmware for GSM > >> chipset? >> No. -- Mikko Rauhala - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.iki.fi/mjr/> Transhumanist - WTA member - http://www.transhumanism.org/> Singularitarian - SIAI supporter - http://www.singinst.org/> ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org >> http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community >> >>> >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> Openmoko community mailing list >>> community@lists.openmoko.org >>> http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community >>> >>> > > > > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: firmware Re: IMEI
Am Sonntag 03 August 2008 13:20:34 schrieb Learning It: > It means that this project is not totaly open to communityhmmm Do you have source for the firmware of your bluetooth chipset, your GPS chipset, your WLAN chipset, your printer, your modem? GSM is a closed market, there is only a handfull of certified stacks available and these are considered mission critical trade secret -- whether we like that or not. Until the forseeable future, I don't see the powers allowing any open GSM stack (apart from the fact that such a thing doesn't exist) to be allowed to operate in public networks. -- :M: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: firmware Re: IMEI
On Sun, 2008-08-03 at 07:24 -0700, Learning It wrote: > There is any GSM chipset with full source codes on the net? That would be illegal in most places. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: firmware Re: IMEI
What about reverce engineering? I saw that some ppl were doing their mobile phones. It means somewhere exists such information. --- On Sun, 8/3/08, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: Michael 'Mickey' Lauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: firmware Re: IMEI > To: community@lists.openmoko.org > Date: Sunday, August 3, 2008, 2:33 PM > Am Sonntag 03 August 2008 13:20:34 schrieb Learning It: > > It means that this project is not totaly open to > communityhmmm > > Do you have source for the firmware of your bluetooth > chipset, your GPS > chipset, your WLAN chipset, your printer, your modem? > > GSM is a closed market, there is only a handfull of > certified stacks available > and these are considered mission critical trade secret -- > whether we like > that or not. Until the forseeable future, I don't see > the powers allowing any > open GSM stack (apart from the fact that such a thing > doesn't exist) to be > allowed to operate in public networks. > > -- > :M: > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Software requests
I am trying to do a couple things, and noticed I don't see expect or cron in the opkg list, or on the freerunner. Can someone, who packages, make those available? I suppose I can try to set up a dev environment, guess I could put make and stuff on the phone. I am pinched for time though, so I am trying to do what I can, without having to set up dev stuff to do my own compiles. Anyway, any help would be appreciated. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: firmware Re: IMEI
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi The problem because the GSM chip has a closed firmware is because *laws* in U.S. and I think also in other countries say that used must to to have access to it. Because it is a law, and Openmoko can not to go against laws, it was told starting by day 1 that it will remain closed. It Openmoko would not did so, it will be very difficult that it could get the FCC approvation for its devices. This law was done because a not running GSM firmware will not only make your device not running, but also the devices that are near to you. About the imei, I can confirm that is against laws to change it. Regards Michele Renda Learning It wrote: > What about reverce engineering? I saw that some ppl were doing their mobile > phones. It means somewhere exists such information. > > > --- On Sun, 8/3/08, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> From: Michael 'Mickey' Lauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Subject: Re: firmware Re: IMEI >> To: community@lists.openmoko.org >> Date: Sunday, August 3, 2008, 2:33 PM >> Am Sonntag 03 August 2008 13:20:34 schrieb Learning It: >>> It means that this project is not totaly open to >> communityhmmm >> >> Do you have source for the firmware of your bluetooth >> chipset, your GPS >> chipset, your WLAN chipset, your printer, your modem? >> >> GSM is a closed market, there is only a handfull of >> certified stacks available >> and these are considered mission critical trade secret -- >> whether we like >> that or not. Until the forseeable future, I don't see >> the powers allowing any >> open GSM stack (apart from the fact that such a thing >> doesn't exist) to be >> allowed to operate in public networks. >> >> -- >> :M: >> >> ___ >> Openmoko community mailing list >> community@lists.openmoko.org >> http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > > > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIlcb4SIAU/I6SkT0RArn5AKCM3JlVEfykCJyVbjqrV9IpsPQeeACeNuS3 iWY2gSEPsaRBzWodO1YeCjg= =nhPw -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
matchbox keyboard don't work with new images?
Hi guys! i have tried a new image today from buildhost and it seems like the matchbox-keyboard don't work anymore. everytime if i wabnt to install the keyboard i get these errors: # opkg install matchbox-keyboard-im_0.0\+svn r1910-r10_armv4t.ipk matchbox-keyboard-applet_0.0\+svnr1910-r10_armv4t.ipk Installing matchbox-keyboard-im (0.0+svnr1910-r10) to root... Installing matchbox-keyboard-applet (0.0+svnr1910-r10) to root... Collected errors: * ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for matchbox-keyboard-im: * gtk+-fastscaling (>= 2.10.14) * * ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for matchbox-keyboard-applet: * gtk+-fastscaling (>= 2.10.14) * i cant find this package anywhere (i mean gtk+-fastscaling). does anybody knows what to do now? the multitap-pad KB isn't nice, and i need a full-keyboard. regards, Arne ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Tmobile GPRS
On Sun, 3 Aug 2008 10:28:52 -0400 (EDT) xaos x <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > First off, the phone I have is the gta02. I've tried using the various > settings I've found around the net to get pppd working with the T-mobile > total internet plan, but I'm having issues with the connection script failing. > > Using the settings from the T-mobile pppd scripts found on the Wiki, it will > get to different stages of dialing each time I try it, but will never > connect. If iIuse the gsm tool to send the AT commands manually, or if I echo > them out in the connection script, it will get to a point where it just > hangs. So, I hit CTRL+C to cancel it and run pppd again and it goes a little > further. Eventually I can get past setting the APN, then when it tries to > dial, it fails. I've tried both *99***1# and *99# to no avail (Tier level 3 > support told me they use *99#). > > I did get it to connect once but it would disconnect again. I couldn't > troubleshoot those problems as I could never get it to connect again. > > So, for anyone who has gotten it to connect (internet2.voicestream.com), > which distribution are you using and which kernel image? > > Below are the settings I'm using: > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# cat /etc/ppp/peers/gprs > # > /dev/ttySAC0 > 115200 > crtscts > lock > hide-password > defaultroute # set the default route > usepeerdns > holdoff 3 > ipcp-accept-local > lcp-echo-failure 12 > lcp-echo-interval 3 > noauth > noipdefault > novj > novjccomp > replacedefaultroute > persist > debug > > connect "/usr/sbin/chat -v -f /etc/ppp/tmobile-connect" > disconnect "/usr/sbin/chat -v -f /etc/ppp/tmobile-disconnect" > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# cat /etc/ppp/tmobile-connect > ECHO ON > TIMEOUT 30 > ABORT 'BUSY' > ABORT 'NO ANSWER' > ABORT 'ERROR' > SAY 'Starting GPRS connect script\n' > > ""'ATZ' > SAY 'Setting APN\n' > OK 'AT+CGDCONT=1,"IP","internet2.voicestream.com"' > > ABORT 'NO CARRIER' > SAY 'Dialing...\n' > OK 'ATD*99#' > CONNECT '' > > -Tom > Here is the peers script from my Zaurus, which uses T-Mobile GPRS via bluetooth. I think it might help: /dev/rfcomm0 115200 connect '/usr/sbin/chat -s -v ABORT "NO CARRIER" ABORT "NO DIALTONE" ABORT "BUSY" "" "ATZ" OK ATDT*99***2# CONNECT' crtscts noipdefault modem usepeerdns defaultroute connect-delay 6000 remotename GPRS -- Bryan DeLuca <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: matchbox keyboard don't work with new images?
> * ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for > matchbox-keyboard-im: > * gtk+-fastscaling (>= 2.10.14) * > * ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for > matchbox-keyboard-applet: > * gtk+-fastscaling (>= 2.10.14) * i think you can safely override these with -force-depends. after all, gtk+-fastscaling is only another incarnation of gtk+ and thus the packages are fully interchangeable. apparently the package needs to define a depency on soem virtual package providing gtk+ and any package doing so needs a line saying "provides gtk+". yet, i am not sure if it is simple a matter of fixing the package metadata or if [io]pkg is simply not capable of handling more sophisticated dependency trees. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner-powered bike ride
> That's exactly what I've been looking for, does it hold it well? Would > you be confident going over speed bumps or down a bumpy tracks at > speed? Hi Tim! It holds the Freerunner pretty well, but for a bumpy track I would use the hole at the bottom of the Freerunner to secure it additionally with some sort of belt at the handle bar. Just to make sure it does not become airborne and leave the earth's atmosphere. ;) I will do this too, because sometimes I need (or want) to drive down a kerbstone and I would bite my own ass if it hits the concrete! :) cheers, André ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
PyGTK- installation?
Hello! i want to install some software and need PyGTK for this. i have 2 questions: why isn't it in the repos anymore? and has anyone a build for me? this would be very nice, because i don't have a mokoMakefile thanks a lot, Arne ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Current daily snapshots under QEMU
Patryk Cisek escreveu: > Hi, > > It seems like recently daily snapshots don't work on QEMU: > http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/neo1973/200808/ > > I tried 20080801 and 20080802. After downloading rootfs, kernel image and > u-boot, I flashed qemu with openmoko/flash.sh. After booting it > (openmoko/qemu-auto.sh) bootmenu shows up. After clicking Boot, splash screen > shows for a little while and boot menu comes again. Any ideas? I tried some > snapshots from buildhost.openmoko.org before they were wiped out and 2007.2 > worked fine. At least the ones I tried. I had the same problem (but with self-built images from Mokomakefile), and it started working when I replaced the u-boot with the trusty old "august snapshot" u-boot I still use in the real device. -- Cesar Eduardo Barros [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: firmware Re: IMEI
Learning It <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > It means that this project is not totaly open to communityhmmm Really none of the firmware is open. We should be looking at putting GNU Radio inside the Neo;). Has anyone looked into this?. It shouldn't be illegal to sell such a device, cause GNU Radio boards are not illegal. There also is a GSM project related to GNU Radio to do the whole GSM stack in software, to my understanding. -- Esben Stien is [EMAIL PROTECTED] s a http://www. s tn m irc://irc. b - i . e/%23contact sip:b0ef@ e e jid:b0ef@n n ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: Freerunner group sales in TAIWAN!!
hi, I updated the wiki of Group sales in Taipei http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GroupSales#Taipei Please let me know if you have any questions or concerns. Best Regards, Mac Lin > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: community@lists.openmoko.org > Subject: Freerunner group sales in TAIWAN!! > Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 20:20:18 +0800 > > > hi, > > Thanks to the generosity of Harry of openmoko, there will be a group sale in > Taiwan for sure. > > If we can collect 10 piece, then we could have the 10-pack price. But even if > we can't , they would still accept the order. > > One that are interested in Taiwan, please send an e-mail to [EMAIL > PROTECTED], and specify the amount of the phone, debug board(DBoard), and > spare packs that you want, along with your name and phone number. > > I hope it could be done fast, so the due date will be 8/17. Than I'll send > the order to openmoko. > > I don't have such group sale experience yet, so mail me if you have any > concern or question want to ask. > > Best Regards, > Mac Lin > > > _ > 聰明搜尋和瀏覽網路的免費工具列 — MSN 搜尋工具列 > http://toolbar.live.com/ _ 隨身的 Windows Live Messenger 和 Hotmail，不限時地掌握資訊盡在指間 — Windows Live for Mobile http://www.msn.com.tw/msnmobile/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GSM detection/identification
Paul Buede wrote: > Matt Joyce wrote: > >> The wiki has some interesting info on GSM : >> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Gsm >> >> The AT commands to interact with the hardware are here : >> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Hardware:AT_Commands >> (I wonder if they are an extension of the earlier dial up modem >> commands ala Hayes?) >> >> here's how you use the commands: >> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Gsmd#Usage_of_shell_mode >> >> these command may work for you : >> >> r Register to network >> R Register to given operator (R=number) >> U Unregister from netowrk >> P Print current operator >> N Print current operator in numeric >> L List available operators >> Q Read signal quality >> nr Query network registration >> >> As I mentioned, I wanted to find all contactable sites, but didn't >> find a command for that. >> >> >> > That was a huge help. What I need now is a way to pass commands from the > cli and have it return values to the cli rather than operating in the > shell. So then I can write a script to do it and log to a file. I want > it to run while I drive around, so I don't have to stop on tap on the > tiny keyboard. Any suggestions? > > I was able to do the following today, from home: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/var/volatile/log# libgsmd-tool -m shell > libgsm-tool - (C) 2006-2007 by Harald Welte and OpenMoko, Inc. > This program is Free Software and has ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY > > L > # # List operators > 31026 T - Mobile, T - Mob for short, is our current operator > 31056 Cellular One DC, Cell On for short, is available > 31041 Cingular, Cingula for short, is available > > So, I drove around and stopped, and everytime I had any reception at all, meaning the L gave me any carriers, it gave me the same three carriers. This modifies my initial theory, and leads to a new one. So, my new theory is that the SIM card is what allows the phone to see any carriers at all. And that the three "operators" I could see in my tests must all allow roaming on each others networks, which is why my T-Mobile SIM lets me see only those three. I should be able to see Verizon, US Cellular, and who knows what other operators from some of the places I tested, including my house. So, right now, I took the SIM card out, rebooted my phone, and am testing to see if I can see any carriers at all (doing this from home), and I see no carriers at all. In fact, here is the output: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# libgsmd-tool -m shell libgsm-tool - (C) 2006-2007 by Harald Welte and OpenMoko, Inc. This program is Free Software and has ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY # cme error: 315 L # List operators Q # Signal strength EVENT: Netreg registration denied cme error: 32 EVENT: Signal Quality: 11 Signal quality -91 dBm Error rate undetectable EVENT: Signal Quality: 9 EVENT: Signal Quality: 11 EVENT: Signal Quality: 9 EVENT: Signal Quality: 11 EVENT: Signal Quality: 9 EVENT: Signal Quality: 11 # L List operators cme error: 13 So, I am disappointed. I am going to need SIM cards from other operators to test reception anywhere. This makes things harder, or at least slower, as I will have to remove SIM cards and insert new ones at any given area to test the various carriers. Does anyone else in the US use a carrier I have not listed as visible with T-Mobile? And would you be willing to test and see what other carriers you are able to see? Maybe we can build a list of carrier teams, for lack of a better term. I have 6 days left to back out of my TMobile contract, so I need to get SIM cards for testing quickly... Will let you all know how it goes. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Tmobile GPRS
I have t-mobile and the webconnect plan, and this worked for me, the version of the script you show did not work... Just change wap.voicestream.com to internet2.voicestream.com > cat /etc/ppp/tmobile-connect TIMEOUT 20 ABORT BUSY ABORT "NO ANSWER" ABORT "NO DIALTONE" ABORT VOICE ABORT ERROR ABORT RINGING SAY 'Starting GPRS connect script\n' "" +++ OK ATZ OK ATE1 OK AT+CFUN=1 OK AT+COPS SAY 'Setting APN\n' OK AT+CGDCONT=1,"IP","wap.voicestream.com" ABORT 'NO CARRIER' SAY 'Dialing...\n' OK ATD*99***1# CONNECT /n/d I also had to do this to make it connect... echo "1" > /sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm-gsm.0/power_on chown uucp.uucp /dev/ttySAC0 stty -F /dev/ttySAC0 crtscts pppd call tmobile-connect xaos x wrote: > First off, the phone I have is the gta02. I've tried using the various > settings I've found around the net to get pppd working with the T-mobile > total internet plan, but I'm having issues with the connection script failing. > > Using the settings from the T-mobile pppd scripts found on the Wiki, it will > get to different stages of dialing each time I try it, but will never > connect. If iIuse the gsm tool to send the AT commands manually, or if I echo > them out in the connection script, it will get to a point where it just > hangs. So, I hit CTRL+C to cancel it and run pppd again and it goes a little > further. Eventually I can get past setting the APN, then when it tries to > dial, it fails. I've tried both *99***1# and *99# to no avail (Tier level 3 > support told me they use *99#). > > I did get it to connect once but it would disconnect again. I couldn't > troubleshoot those problems as I could never get it to connect again. > > So, for anyone who has gotten it to connect (internet2.voicestream.com), > which distribution are you using and which kernel image? > > Below are the settings I'm using: > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# cat /etc/ppp/peers/gprs > # > /dev/ttySAC0 > 115200 > crtscts > lock > hide-password > defaultroute # set the default route > usepeerdns > holdoff 3 > ipcp-accept-local > lcp-echo-failure 12 > lcp-echo-interval 3 > noauth > noipdefault > novj > novjccomp > replacedefaultroute > persist > debug > > connect "/usr/sbin/chat -v -f /etc/ppp/tmobile-connect" > disconnect "/usr/sbin/chat -v -f /etc/ppp/tmobile-disconnect" > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# cat /etc/ppp/tmobile-connect > ECHO ON > TIMEOUT 30 > ABORT 'BUSY' > ABORT 'NO ANSWER' > ABORT 'ERROR' > SAY 'Starting GPRS connect script\n' > > ""'ATZ' > SAY 'Setting APN\n' > OK 'AT+CGDCONT=1,"IP","internet2.voicestream.com"' > > ABORT 'NO CARRIER' > SAY 'Dialing...\n' > OK 'ATD*99#' > CONNECT '' > > -Tom > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > -- Jim Morris, http://blog.wolfman.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GSM detection/identification
> And that the three "operators" I could see in my tests > must all allow roaming on each others networks, which is why my T-Mobile > SIM lets me see only those three. I should be able to see Verizon, US > Cellular, and who knows what other operators from some of the places I > tested, including my house. I don't know why you'd ever expect to see CDMA carriers with a GSM phone. You won't see Verizon or US Cellular or Sprint. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GSM detection/identification
Paul, Sounds like what you want is to run the GSM radio in promiscuous mode, like some wireless Ethernet radios can do. My old Razr and the Iphone would do something like that. It won't tell you the carrier but it will list the available sites, with their ID and signal strength. There is a web page with all the site id's on it connected to google maps. Can't remember the address off the top of my head. If you could mash up the site ID's gathered from your phone to the web site Scott There might be an AT command to do just that. On my old razr Paul Buede wrote: Paul Buede wrote: Matt Joyce wrote: The wiki has some interesting info on GSM : http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Gsm The AT commands to interact with the hardware are here : http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Hardware:AT_Commands (I wonder if they are an extension of the earlier dial up modem commands ala Hayes?) here's how you use the commands: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Gsmd#Usage_of_shell_mode these command may work for you : r Register to network R Register to given operator (R=number) U Unregister from netowrk P Print current operator N Print current operator in numeric L List available operators Q Read signal quality nr Query network registration As I mentioned, I wanted to find all contactable sites, but didn't find a command for that. That was a huge help. What I need now is a way to pass commands from the cli and have it return values to the cli rather than operating in the shell. So then I can write a script to do it and log to a file. I want it to run while I drive around, so I don't have to stop on tap on the tiny keyboard. Any suggestions? I was able to do the following today, from home: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/var/volatile/log# libgsmd-tool -m shell libgsm-tool - (C) 2006-2007 by Harald Welte and OpenMoko, Inc. This program is Free Software and has ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY L # # List operators 31026 T - Mobile, T - Mob for short, is our current operator 31056 Cellular One DC, Cell On for short, is available 31041 Cingular, Cingula for short, is available So, I drove around and stopped, and everytime I had any reception at all, meaning the L gave me any carriers, it gave me the same three carriers. This modifies my initial theory, and leads to a new one. So, my new theory is that the SIM card is what allows the phone to see any carriers at all. And that the three "operators" I could see in my tests must all allow roaming on each others networks, which is why my T-Mobile SIM lets me see only those three. I should be able to see Verizon, US Cellular, and who knows what other operators from some of the places I tested, including my house. So, right now, I took the SIM card out, rebooted my phone, and am testing to see if I can see any carriers at all (doing this from home), and I see no carriers at all. In fact, here is the output: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# libgsmd-tool -m shell libgsm-tool - (C) 2006-2007 by Harald Welte and OpenMoko, Inc. This program is Free Software and has ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY # cme error: 315 L # List operators Q # Signal strength EVENT: Netreg registration denied cme error: 32 EVENT: Signal Quality: 11 Signal quality -91 dBm Error rate undetectable EVENT: Signal Quality: 9 EVENT: Signal Quality: 11 EVENT: Signal Quality: 9 EVENT: Signal Quality: 11 EVENT: Signal Quality: 9 EVENT: Signal Quality: 11 # L List operators cme error: 13 So, I am disappointed. I am going to need SIM cards from other operators to test reception anywhere. This makes things harder, or at least slower, as I will have to remove SIM cards and insert new ones at any given area to test the various carriers. Does anyone else in the US use a carrier I have not listed as visible with T-Mobile? And would you be willing to test and see what other carriers you are able to see? Maybe we can build a list of carrier teams, for lack of a better term. I have 6 days left to back out of my TMobile contract, so I need to get SIM cards for testing quickly... Will let you all know how it goes. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: PyGTK- installation?
I was able to install it, a few days ago, by typing this in the terminal: opkg install python-pygtk D Arne Zachlod wrote: > > Hello! > > i want to install some software and need PyGTK for this. i have 2 > questions: why isn't it in the repos anymore? and has anyone a build for > me? this would be very nice, because i don't have a mokoMakefile thanks > a lot, > > Arne > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/PyGTK--installation--tp667208p667342.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: firmware Re: IMEI
Learning It wrote: > What about reverce engineering? I saw that some ppl were doing their mobile > phones. It means somewhere exists such information. I wouldn't bother trying to reverse-engineer the GSM firmware itself. The technical and legal barriers are too high for this to be a practical approach. Just accept that it is a black box, like the hard drive in your PC. However, it would be useful to talk about "reverse-engineering" and documenting the AT command set through which the GSM chipset is accessed. Much of it is standard, but there are some proprietary commands. It would be very useful if we could find (for example) commands to control echo suppression/cancellation in the Calypso chipset. These wiki pages are a good starting point: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Hardware:AT_Commands http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GTA01_and_GTA02_gsm_modem ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Umlauts in Openmoko
Ah... I searched the wiki, but not the trac tickets.
Thanks for the link. I hope this bug is fixed soon!
Regards,
Tobias
On Sunday 03 August 2008 12:08:18 Jeffrey Ratcliffe wrote:
> 2008/8/3 Tobias Kündig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > I just have one question: I'm living in Switzerland, so I type my SMS in
> > (Swiss) German. That's why it would be really useful to use Umlauts (ä,
> > ö, ü / Ä, Ö, Ü). Unfortunately Umlauts mess up the whole message text.
> > They are replaced by {, } or even stranger signs. If I send a message
> > with Umlauts from the freerunner, it is displayed correctly on the
> > Freerunner but messed up on the receiving device.
>
> This is http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1591
>
> Jeff
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Re: firmware Re: IMEI
On 3 Aug 2008, at 20:31, Esben Stien wrote: > Learning It <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> It means that this project is not totaly open to communityhmmm > > Really none of the firmware is open. We should be looking at putting > GNU Radio inside the Neo;). Has anyone looked into this?. It shouldn't > be illegal to sell such a device, cause GNU Radio boards are not > illegal. There also is a GSM project related to GNU Radio to do the > whole GSM stack in software, to my understanding. Your last sentence surprises me. I don't think a device running GNU Radio (or whatever) would be licensable - it would probably be illegal to sell or use it as a phone. I would think any device sold as a phone would have to be licensed by the FCC or whoever, and that they would make requirements that the device must be unable to do X, Y & Z (where these are things that might interfere with other users), which would be impossible to guarantee with fully-open firmware. Stroller. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: PyGTK- installation?
yes, but since is isn't in the repos anymore this doesn't work. thats why if you need i now you have to pack it by yourself. because i have no MokoMakefile installed on my machine, i can't build the package by myself as described in the wiki and because of this i can't install mofi or lint-wifi or some other packages. i dont know why they aren't in the repos, but i miss them :( bye, Arne Dimitri schrieb: > I was able to install it, a few days ago, by typing this in the terminal: > > opkg install python-pygtk > > D > > > Arne Zachlod wrote: > >> Hello! >> >> i want to install some software and need PyGTK for this. i have 2 >> questions: why isn't it in the repos anymore? and has anyone a build for >> me? this would be very nice, because i don't have a mokoMakefile thanks >> a lot, >> >> Arne >> >> ___ >> Openmoko community mailing list >> community@lists.openmoko.org >> http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community >> >> >> > > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: /qtopia/ how to upgrade without reflashing?
Did you have to set any special Environment variables or paths to get this to work? I have installed the toolchain on a Ubuntu Linux system, and it gets quite a long way through, but end up getting this error eventually... ../../include/QtCore/../../../../../qtopia-opensource-src-4.3.2-snapshot-20080801/qtopiacore/qt/src/corelib/tools/qlist.h:355: error: no matching function for call to ‘operator new(unsigned int, QList::Node*)’ :0: note: candidates are: void* operator new(unsigned int) While trying to build this... make[7]: Entering directory `/media/oldroot/opt/QtopiaSDK/opt/build/qtopia-4.3.2/qtopiacore/target/src/corelib' arm-linux-g++ -c -pipe -DQT_QWS_FICGTA01 -fno-exceptions -fno-rtti -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -finline-functions -falign-functions=2 -falign-loops=2 -falign-jumps=2 -march=armv4t -mtune=arm920t -msoft-float -fvisibility=hidden -fvisibility-inlines-hidden -Wall -W -D_REENTRANT -fPIC -DQT_SHARED -DQTOPIA_NO_ICONV_OPEN_ERRORS -DQT_QWS_DISABLE_FLUSHCLIPPING -DQT_NO_PLUGIN_CHECK -DQT_EXTERNAL_SOUND_SERVER -DQT_QWS_KEYEVENT_SINGLECLIENT -DMEDIA_SERVER -DQT_KEYPAD_NAVIGATION -DQT_QWS_SCREENCORDS -DQT_QWS_DISABLE_FLUSHCLIPPING -DQT_BUILD_CORE_LIB -DQT_NO_CAST_TO_ASCII -DQT_ASCII_CAST_WARNINGS -DQT_44_API_QSQLQUERY_FINISH -DQT_MOC_COMPAT -DQT_NO_DEBUG -D_LARGEFILE64_SOURCE -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -I/media/oldroot/opt/QtopiaSDK/opt/build/qtopia-opensource-src-4.3.2-snapshot-20080801/devices/ficgta01/mkspecs/qws/linux-ficgta01-g++ -I/media/oldroot/opt/QtopiaSDK/opt/build/qtopia-opensource-src-4.3.2-snapshot-20080801/qtopiacore/qt/src/corelib -I../../include -I../../include -I../../include/QtCore -Iglobal -I/media/oldroot/opt/QtopiaSDK/opt/build/qtopia-opensource-src-4.3.2-snapshot-20080801/qtopiacore/qt/src/3rdparty/zlib -I.moc/release-shared-emb-arm -I.uic/release-shared-emb-arm -I/opt/toolchains/arm920t-eabi/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/include -I. -o .obj/release-shared-emb-arm/qatomic.o /media/oldroot/opt/QtopiaSDK/opt/build/qtopia-opensource-src-4.3.2-snapshot-20080801/qtopiacore/qt/src/corelib/arch/arm/qatomic.cpp arm-linux-g++ -c -pipe -DQT_QWS_FICGTA01 -fno-exceptions -fno-rtti -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -finline-functions -falign-functions=2 -falign-loops=2 -falign-jumps=2 -march=armv4t -mtune=arm920t -msoft-float -fvisibility=hidden -fvisibility-inlines-hidden -Wall -W -D_REENTRANT -fPIC -DQT_SHARED -DQTOPIA_NO_ICONV_OPEN_ERRORS -DQT_QWS_DISABLE_FLUSHCLIPPING -DQT_NO_PLUGIN_CHECK -DQT_EXTERNAL_SOUND_SERVER -DQT_QWS_KEYEVENT_SINGLECLIENT -DMEDIA_SERVER -DQT_KEYPAD_NAVIGATION -DQT_QWS_SCREENCORDS -DQT_QWS_DISABLE_FLUSHCLIPPING -DQT_BUILD_CORE_LIB -DQT_NO_CAST_TO_ASCII -DQT_ASCII_CAST_WARNINGS -DQT_44_API_QSQLQUERY_FINISH -DQT_MOC_COMPAT -DQT_NO_DEBUG -D_LARGEFILE64_SOURCE -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -I/media/oldroot/opt/QtopiaSDK/opt/build/qtopia-opensource-src-4.3.2-snapshot-20080801/devices/ficgta01/mkspecs/qws/linux-ficgta01-g++ -I/media/oldroot/opt/QtopiaSDK/opt/build/qtopia-opensource-src-4.3.2-snapshot-20080801/qtopiacore/qt/src/corelib -I../../include -I../../include -I../../include/QtCore -Iglobal -I/media/oldroot/opt/QtopiaSDK/opt/build/qtopia-opensource-src-4.3.2-snapshot-20080801/qtopiacore/qt/src/3rdparty/zlib -I.moc/release-shared-emb-arm -I.uic/release-shared-emb-arm -I/opt/toolchains/arm920t-eabi/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/include -I. -o .obj/release-shared-emb-arm/qglobal.o /media/oldroot/opt/QtopiaSDK/opt/build/qtopia-opensource-src-4.3.2-snapshot-20080801/qtopiacore/qt/src/corelib/global/qglobal.cpp I have also tried to use the VMPlayer based SDK trolltech provide, but that also gets an error during build, but a different one. I'd prefer to use the local toolchain as it is faster of course. Thanks Jim Ole Kliemann wrote: > On Fri, Aug 01, 2008 at 03:32:52PM -0400, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote: >> Is there an easy way to upgrade qtopia installation without reflashing >> whole rootfs? since /opt/Qtopia is not a part of any package according >> to opkg search, thus is not 'opkg upgrade'able. 1 possibility I see is >> to keep /home/root on a flash and manually mount it to preserve at least >> personal settings and aphone book, but that would require manual >> remounting after flashing. May be there is a better way?? > > You can upgrade Qtopia like this: > shutdown Qtopia (/etc/init.d/qpe stop) > remove /opt/Qtopia > copy new Qtopia to /opt/Qtopia (via scp) > > That's pretty straight forward. Tricky part is where to get new Qtopia > as tarball or whatever to copy it. One possibility is to compile > yourself. It's not difficult and you are always up-to-date. The > precompiled images are not so often updated. > > Get the Qtopia toolchain for FR [1]. Unpacking it to / will install into > /opt/toolchains/arm920t-eabi/ > Get the latest snapshot [2]. > Create a build dir and run configure -device ficgta01 then build it. > > Ole > > [1] http://www.qtopia.net/modules/mydownloads/singlefile.php?lid=38 > [2] ftp://ftp.trolltech.com/qt
Re: PyGTK- installation?
see > http://www.ginguppin.de/node/20 since i switched to an 64bit t61 recently it gave me another package to test -- minimo does not compile anymore ... (gripes about cannot "access nsBuildID.h: Invalid argument", whatever that means -- the file is there) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Hardware buttons not working in 2007.2 build
Hello I have a freerunner, which I have updated to the latest 2007.2 build using opkg update, and I have found that it is now ignoring the hardware buttons. I know that the buttons themselves work, and that there is not a hardware fault because the work normally in uboot, and Qtopia. Has anyone else seen this. Can you suggest a solution? Or should I just put up with it until ASU is released at the end of the week. Thanks ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GSM detection/identification
Steven Kurylo wrote: >> And that the three "operators" I could see in my tests >> must all allow roaming on each others networks, which is why my T-Mobile >> SIM lets me see only those three. I should be able to see Verizon, US >> Cellular, and who knows what other operators from some of the places I >> tested, including my house. >> > > I don't know why you'd ever expect to see CDMA carriers with a GSM phone. > > You won't see Verizon or US Cellular or Sprint. > > Oh, I guess I thought Verizon did GSM as well as CDMA. I also expected US Cellular to do GSM too, guess I was wrong. So then, I guess it doesn't really matter what carrier I go with if they all have the same coverage.. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Tmobile GPRS
Still no dice... what's in your peer script? When I do a 'pppd nodetach debug call gprs' (gprs is the name of my peer script), it hangs right after "Starting GPRS connect script" and goes no further. I was able to connect once today using qtopia, but for some reason it never connected again after that and continued to hang at random times during the list of AT commands. I'm stumped as to what could be causing this issue. I did do a /etc/init.d/gsmd stop echo "1" > /sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm-gsm.0/power_on chown uucp.uucp /dev/ttySAC0 stty -F /dev/ttySAC0 crtscts before calling the pppd script to no avail. Could this be a kernel issue? Which kernel are you using? btw, how does one go about reconnecting to the operator network after stopping gsmd and running the above commands without rebooting? /etc/init.d/gsmd start doesn't reconnect to the tmobile network and issuing AT+COPS=? returns nothing. -Tom - Original Message - From: "Jim Morris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "List for Openmoko community discussion" Sent: Sunday, August 3, 2008 2:26:02 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: Tmobile GPRS I have t-mobile and the webconnect plan, and this worked for me, the version of the script you show did not work... Just change wap.voicestream.com to internet2.voicestream.com > cat /etc/ppp/tmobile-connect TIMEOUT 20 ABORT BUSY ABORT "NO ANSWER" ABORT "NO DIALTONE" ABORT VOICE ABORT ERROR ABORT RINGING SAY 'Starting GPRS connect script\n' "" +++ OK ATZ OK ATE1 OK AT+CFUN=1 OK AT+COPS SAY 'Setting APN\n' OK AT+CGDCONT=1,"IP","wap.voicestream.com" ABORT 'NO CARRIER' SAY 'Dialing...\n' OK ATD*99***1# CONNECT /n/d I also had to do this to make it connect... echo "1" > /sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm-gsm.0/power_on chown uucp.uucp /dev/ttySAC0 stty -F /dev/ttySAC0 crtscts pppd call tmobile-connect xaos x wrote: > First off, the phone I have is the gta02. I've tried using the various > settings I've found around the net to get pppd working with the T-mobile > total internet plan, but I'm having issues with the connection script failing. > > Using the settings from the T-mobile pppd scripts found on the Wiki, it will > get to different stages of dialing each time I try it, but will never > connect. If iIuse the gsm tool to send the AT commands manually, or if I echo > them out in the connection script, it will get to a point where it just > hangs. So, I hit CTRL+C to cancel it and run pppd again and it goes a little > further. Eventually I can get past setting the APN, then when it tries to > dial, it fails. I've tried both *99***1# and *99# to no avail (Tier level 3 > support told me they use *99#). > > I did get it to connect once but it would disconnect again. I couldn't > troubleshoot those problems as I could never get it to connect again. > > So, for anyone who has gotten it to connect (internet2.voicestream.com), > which distribution are you using and which kernel image? > > Below are the settings I'm using: > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# cat /etc/ppp/peers/gprs > # > /dev/ttySAC0 > 115200 > crtscts > lock > hide-password > defaultroute # set the default route > usepeerdns > holdoff 3 > ipcp-accept-local > lcp-echo-failure 12 > lcp-echo-interval 3 > noauth > noipdefault > novj > novjccomp > replacedefaultroute > persist > debug > > connect "/usr/sbin/chat -v -f /etc/ppp/tmobile-connect" > disconnect "/usr/sbin/chat -v -f /etc/ppp/tmobile-disconnect" > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# cat /etc/ppp/tmobile-connect > ECHO ON > TIMEOUT 30 > ABORT 'BUSY' > ABORT 'NO ANSWER' > ABORT 'ERROR' > SAY 'Starting GPRS connect script\n' > > ""'ATZ' > SAY 'Setting APN\n' > OK 'AT+CGDCONT=1,"IP","internet2.voicestream.com"' > > ABORT 'NO CARRIER' > SAY 'Dialing...\n' > OK 'ATD*99#' > CONNECT '' > > -Tom > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > -- Jim Morris, http://blog.wolfman.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: Warranty after fix for GTA02 GPS rework for SDcard interferenceissue
I talked with Tony this morning he said he uploaded it -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Green Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 7:34 AM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Cc: Neng-Yu Tu (Tony Tu) Subject: Re: Warranty after fix for GTA02 GPS rework for SDcard interferenceissue -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Do folks know wher to find the SOP for the cap fix? | | Tony, if you havent already, go ahead and post the SOP for the cap fix. It's | easy enough to do | And undo. Did you ever do it, steve? - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkiRzVQACgkQOjLpvpq7dMpGLwCeO+mNJpn0Fk/bMnaoSN3n6o5a 1bEAniOPccvfrk8WZ+/lIUjVlxUE5pZd =xFkQ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
building minimo Re: PyGTK- installation?
> since i switched to an 64bit t61 recently it gave me another package to
> test -- minimo does not compile anymore ... (gripes about cannot "access
> nsBuildID.h: Invalid argument", whatever that means -- the file is there)
just for the records (since this problem came up a while ago already):
minimo does not compile out of the box w/ amd64 -- the oe bugtracker [1]
has an still open ticket about that from 2006-09-06 ...
at least there's one step in the right direction in comment #21, add
export HOST_CC = "${BUILD_CC}"
export HOST_CXX = "${BUILD_CXX}"
export HOST_CFLAGS = "${BUILD_CFLAGS}"
to the existing bb recipe. (the next make update will fail because
mokomakefile or oe fails to either respect or simply overwrite the recipe,
for what reason ever).
this will immediately make you hit another snag:
In file included from js/jsarena.c:49:
js/jsbit.h:173: error: size of array 'js_static_assert_line_173' is
negative
make[1]: *** [js/jsarena.o] Error 1
make: *** [src] Error 2
go to jsbit.h line 173 and kill one long from [2]
JS_STATIC_ASSERT(sizeof(unsigned long long) == sizeof(JSUword));
i am no c genius but i suppose minimo/firefox defines "unsigned long long"
in some incompatible way -- i sincerely hope "unsigned long" is still long
enough (can somebody shed some light?)
anyway, after this minimo builds even on amd64.
[1] http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1391
[2] http://forum.developers.facebook.com/viewtopic.php?id=15902&p=1
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Re: numptyphysics ipk
On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 4:56 AM, simarillion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> * Warning: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for numptyphysics: >>* libsdl * libsdl-image * >> >> Any ideas what I've done wrong? I'm running 2007.2, if that makes a >> difference. > > I got the same error messages but the game starts without any problems. > Did you try that? The game works. The packaging doesn't. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: Warranty after fix for GTA02 GPS rework forSD card interferenceissue
A proper Kalman Filter, I would think, would have such limits since it should have a model of vehicle dynamics. Andy do you have any idea of the duration of SD IO? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Green Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 7:44 AM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: Warranty after fix for GTA02 GPS rework forSD card interferenceissue -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | steve schrieb: |> Amaybe when SD I/O occurs one could use the accelerometers to dead reckon? | | Dead reckoning without gyros is pretty hard. In theory, the two | accelerometers are not mounted in the same place and thus could be | used to derive rotation, but in practice they're pretty close to each | other, and given the noise of measurement one is unlikely to derive a | good rotation from them. I don't think we need to worry about it, but in fact we wouldn't need to dead-reckon. All we would need it for would be to put a ceiling on claims from noisy GPS about what accelerations we could have experienced. If the GPS sample says we jumped 100m in 1s, but the accels didn't really see anything, we could ignore or meddle with the GPS sample. Whether that is any better than just filtering between previous and later samples I doubt. - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkiRz5EACgkQOjLpvpq7dMpNLQCfcPdC9ZdSelPGiP+D9TVapDI0 94AAnjkmnCWge5RxXewJ40gchhA1n+Ne =jCLG -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Fwd: Re: Freerunner-powered bike ride
Yesterday Marko Mäkelä sent me some interesting information about a charging solution for bicycles. He's not on the list and wants me to forward his mail: Original-Nachricht Betreff: Re: Freerunner-powered bike ride Datum: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 22:56:15 +0300 An: André Gaul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CC: community@lists.openmoko.org I'm not subscribed to the list, but I've been following the development of the OpenMoko since the Neo1973 was announced. André, I think I can answer your question: > The next step would be a dynamo-powered charger for the Freerunner. I read an > article in the german computer magazine ct [2] about creating a converter for > charging USB devices while riding your bike with a hub-dynamo. The c't article features a step-up/down converter that outputs 5 volts and a battery charger for 4 Ni-MH cells. I suppose that you'd be only using the 5-volt supply. However, I have designed a much simpler and cheaper solution that I believe should work at 500 mA. I don't know if you can convince the Freerunner to input 500 mA instead of 100 or 1000 mA, or if you can tell the Freerunner to adjust its charge current according to the voltage, as per the USB battery charging specification that the Freerunner does not comply with. My solution consists of a MOSFET rectifier bridge and a low-dropout linear voltage regulator that outputs 5 volts: http://www.iki.fi/~msmakela/electronics/dynamo5v/ The SMD version is about 14mm*22 mm, so it can be fitted inside the head tube, for example. I know of two switch-mode regulators: the c't one (which is available as a kit from segor.de) and a commercial product, the JaWeTec BikeCharger. I don't think that they're significantly better than my cheap and simple circuit. Fully charging an old Nokia DCT-3 series phone (about 1 Ah) takes about 50 km when riding at an average speed of 20 km/h. I'm going to build a small series (5 or 10 or so) of the circuit and sell it to fellow hobbyists at about 10 EUR. It'd be nice to see this being sold as a commercial product (for a similar price, I guess). Best regards, Marko Mäkelä signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
3G (USIM) card different on FSO
Dear all, GTA02 and GTA01 see USIM but not SIM using FSO Milestone 2 Here is a summary, The USIM card is a "Three" prepaid for an A925, The SIM is a Vodafone. Both Australian. motorola/ USIM ok motorola/ SIM "SOS only" (implies that emergency calls could be made) GTA02/ USIM/ FSO ver 2 or ver 1: sees card "SOS only", dialer weird. GTA02/ SIM/ FSO ver 2 : does not see card. & "no dbus" GTA02/ USIM/ 20080803"devel" : does not register, "No Network" GTA02/ SIM/ 20080803"devel": makes usable calls GTA01/ USIM/ FSO ver 2: sees card "SOS only", dialer weird GTA01/ SIM/ FSO ver 2 : does not see card & "no dbus" GTA01/ SIM/ most images: works "normally" , usable calls Related threads: GSM detection/identification (community list) FSO and dbus (devel list) GPRS for FSO Milestone 2(community list) Eagerly awaiting next FSO, clare ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: building minimo Re: PyGTK- installation?
arne anka escreveu:
> to the existing bb recipe. (the next make update will fail because
> mokomakefile or oe fails to either respect or simply overwrite the recipe,
> for what reason ever).
To make mokomakefile respect your change (including automatically
merging it when needed), just commit it (the openembedded directory is a
normal git working tree). Mokomakefile does a sequence where it will
merge your local changes instead of overwriting them, but it fails
without a clean working tree (i.e. you cannot have uncommited changes;
see http://www.kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/gitglossary.html for
details).
> this will immediately make you hit another snag:
>
> In file included from js/jsarena.c:49:
> js/jsbit.h:173: error: size of array 'js_static_assert_line_173' is
> negative
> make[1]: *** [js/jsarena.o] Error 1
> make: *** [src] Error 2
>
> go to jsbit.h line 173 and kill one long from [2]
> JS_STATIC_ASSERT(sizeof(unsigned long long) == sizeof(JSUword));
>
> i am no c genius but i suppose minimo/firefox defines "unsigned long long"
> in some incompatible way -- i sincerely hope "unsigned long" is still long
> enough (can somebody shed some light?)
> anyway, after this minimo builds even on amd64.
Defeating a static assert is not a good idea ("size of array is
negative" is what happens when a static assert fails). The assert being
there probably means the programmers assumed sizeof(unsigned long long)
== sizeof(JSUword) in the code, and wanted the build to abort in case
something went wrong and that wasn't true.
The real error should be elsewhere, in the definition of JSUword (it
should have the same size as unsigned long long (i.e. 64 bits), but not
necessarily the same type). Since you are on arm, unsigned long is
probably 32 bits, which means the variable has half the size it should have.
I'm guessing it's confusing native and cross compilers; it is using the
native compiler to find out that "unsigned long" is enough (64 bits on
the AMD64 architecture), but using the cross compiler to actually
compile the code (where "unsigned long" is 32 bits).
--
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Re: 3G (USIM) card different on FSO
Hi, On Sun, 3 Aug 2008 22:18:42 + Clare <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dear all, > GTA02 and GTA01 see USIM but not SIM using FSO Milestone 2 > > Here is a summary, The USIM card is a "Three" prepaid for an A925, > The SIM is a Vodafone. Both Australian. > > GTA02/ SIM/ FSO ver 2 : does not see card. & "no dbus" just a hinch, but was that your first boot after flashing the device? We have some strange race conditions probably caused by the configure scripts that OE runs on first boot resulting in frameworkd not starting or other weirdness. The "no dbus" should never appear if zhone actually got to talk to frameworkd. Regards, Daniel Willmann signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GSM detection/identification
Paul Buede <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > What I need now is a way to pass commands from the cli and have it > return values to the cli rather than operating in the shell. What you want is a non interactive interface to the gsm daemon and I'm very surprised it's not implemented this way. -- Esben Stien is [EMAIL PROTECTED] s a http://www. s tn m irc://irc. b - i . e/%23contact sip:b0ef@ e e jid:b0ef@n n ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Where is ASU?
Hi folks. Sorry if I'm asking something too obvious, but I can't find the ASU images on http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/freerunner/... I see that all the links to ASU images in the mailing list end up in 404s... So, 2 questions: 1 - where are ASU images; 2 - what exactly is hosted in buildhost? FSO? Thanks in advance! Vasco. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Re: Freerunner-powered bike ride
Hey > My solution consists of a MOSFET rectifier bridge and a low-dropout > linear voltage regulator that outputs 5 volts: > > http://www.iki.fi/~msmakela/electronics/dynamo5v/ a switching regulator would generate less waste heat and present less physical resistance in the dynamo. Maybe it's negligible, but it's not that much expense to upgrade from a linear regulator. I have one of these http://www.dimensionengineering.com/DE-SW050.htm that I could try once I have a hub dynamo. -- Brad ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: SD Card Fix Fubar
Did you try the software fix first. And test before and after before proceeding with the cap fix? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Derrick Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 6:17 AM To: community@lists.openmoko.org Subject: Re: SD Card Fix Fubar > | I unsoldered the cap, sucked and scraped all the solder out. Metered > | between all the pins to verify no shorts( I know I should have done that > | first). Put the card back in and no joy.. nada.. > | > | Not sure how to proceed now. Is Openmoko going to be taking FR's > | back for repairs? > > It probably ain't FUBAR'd after this "easy" mod ((C)2008 Steve). You > should get a cheap multimeter and check for shorts using the Ohm range > of that rather than just going by eye. said that and did that. thanks ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: SDcard holder - convenience "rework"
That's pretty damn clever. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joerg Reisenweber Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2008 1:32 AM To: community@lists.openmoko.org Subject: SDcard holder - convenience "rework" for a nice handle to save your fingernails and do no violence on SD-holder by using a knife etc, see: http://people.openmoko.org/joerg/sdcard-handle note the pretty original scotchtape-end of the transparent sticky tape ;-) Works like a charm! cheers jOERG ps: thanks to XorA for triggering the idea by complaining about the "varnish-killer" ;-) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Re: Freerunner-powered bike ride
2008/8/4 Brad Midgley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> My solution consists of a MOSFET rectifier bridge and a low-dropout >> linear voltage regulator that outputs 5 volts: >> >> http://www.iki.fi/~msmakela/electronics/dynamo5v/ > > a switching regulator would generate less waste heat and present less > physical resistance in the dynamo. Maybe it's negligible, but it's not > that much expense to upgrade from a linear regulator. > > I have one of these http://www.dimensionengineering.com/DE-SW050.htm > that I could try once I have a hub dynamo. i like the idea of a generator to charge the neo, but don't like the idea of using my pedal power directly. has anyone seen any regenerative generators that replace the brakes to simultaneously slow down the bike and provide a current for charging? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regenerative_braking ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: GPS application (was: Request for help: Would likecommunityapplications to show anddiscuss at LinuxWorld)
Ya, guillermo does nice work.. The right partnership could make a cool product. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marcus Bauer Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 12:32 AM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: RE: GPS application (was: Request for help: Would likecommunityapplications to show anddiscuss at LinuxWorld) On Sat, 2008-08-02 at 11:25 -0700, steve wrote: > Bike mount? > > Or car mount? > > Guillermo how hard is that? The rubber skin is cool: http://www.sureda.org/Portfolio/Electronics/OpenMoko/Accesories/NeoSkin/Open Moko-NeoSkin-StandardFrame.htm ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GSM detection/identification
On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 11:47 AM, Esben Stien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Paul Buede <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> What I need now is a way to pass commands from the cli and have it >> return values to the cli rather than operating in the shell. > > What you want is a non interactive interface to the gsm daemon and I'm > very surprised it's not implemented this way. > `libgsmd-tool -m atcmd` outputs results to stdout. (tested on 2007.2) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: Request for Help: SYSTEMS fair 21th-24th October in Munich, Germany
Dr. HNS. We would be happy to supply you with some gifts for your volunteers, things like debug boards Or spares kits for community members who help out at booth duty. We are doing that at Linux World. I think The idea of having the community help out at booths is great. Hey are a part of the company. Best regards, Steve -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 6:59 AM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Request for Help: SYSTEMS fair 21th-24th October in Munich, Germany Hi all in Munich, Bavaria, Germany (or anywhere else who wants to visit Munich in October): We can get a small booth (12 sqm somewhere near IBM) at the SYSTEMS fair in the "PERSPEKTIVE OPEN SOURCE" area. http://www.systems.de/ http://www.systems.de/de/Home/besucher/themen/themenueberblick#20135120 http://www.systems.de/link/de/20155618#20155618 For further planning, I need * people who want to help planning * people who want to staff the booth * ideas what to present * potential sponsors (my company is willing to do some sponsoring but probably not all) Please write me your ideas. Nikolaus Mobile Office Solutions by Golden Delicious Computers GmbH&Co. KG Buchenstr. 3 D-82041 Oberhaching +49-89-54290367 http://www.handheld-linux.com AG München, HRA 89571 VAT DE253626266 Komplementär: Golden Delicious Computers Verwaltungs GmbH Oberhaching, AG München, HRB 16602 Geschäftsführer: Dr. Nikolaus Schaller Digital Tools for Independent People ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Where is ASU?
I've been wondering the same thing, thought it was only me. It looks like only August builds are up at the moment. Vasco Névoa wrote: > Hi folks. > Sorry if I'm asking something too obvious, but I can't find the ASU > images on http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/freerunner/... > I see that all the links to ASU images in the mailing list end up in 404s... > So, 2 questions: > 1 - where are ASU images; > 2 - what exactly is hosted in buildhost? FSO? > Thanks in advance! > Vasco. > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: firmware Re: IMEI
Am So 3. August 2008 schrieb Mikko Rauhala: > su, 2008-08-03 kello 04:12 -0700, Learning It kirjoitti: > > Do we have sources of firmware for GSM chipset? > > No. Actually OM *has*, but they are under heavy NDA. Probably this also is the reason we must not provide FW-updates for users. Even the binary might open a path to change IMEI or reverse engineer other details of Calypso. /jOERG signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: Re: Freerunner-powered bike ride
Put it on the wiki somewhere. Sounds cool. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brad Midgley Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 5:08 PM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: Re: Freerunner-powered bike ride Hey > My solution consists of a MOSFET rectifier bridge and a low-dropout > linear voltage regulator that outputs 5 volts: > > http://www.iki.fi/~msmakela/electronics/dynamo5v/ a switching regulator would generate less waste heat and present less physical resistance in the dynamo. Maybe it's negligible, but it's not that much expense to upgrade from a linear regulator. I have one of these http://www.dimensionengineering.com/DE-SW050.htm that I could try once I have a hub dynamo. -- Brad ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GPRS for FSO Milestone 2
On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 8:16 AM, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > Am Samstag 02 August 2008 23:13:41 schrieb C R McClenaghan: > > I've been able to hack together the necessary ppp scripts to get GPRS > > working on FSO Milestone 2 release. This is for a Freerunner, if it > > matters. > > Hmm, d'oh. Why was that needed? FSO already works w/ GPRS here. Did you try > the PDP API? If we need different options for your provider, this has to be > encapsulated by the framework daemon. > > Can you elaborate on how GPRS works in FSO without ppp scripts? How does one configure the carrier-specific GPRS settings? Certainly GPRS isn't working for me out of the box. -- Dylan Type faster. Use Dvorak: http://dvzine.org ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Edit wiki
So, it can't work on mediawiki system? Openmoko wiki used media wiki. Yaroslav Halchenko ??: > it is all features of tiddlywiki ;-) everything is done on client side > (ie in the browser) thanks to Java Script ;-) all material (besides > images) is contained within that very single .html file -- that is the > beauty of it -- even search works ;-) > > On Fri, 01 Aug 2008, Brenda Wang wrote: > > >> You have a pretty nice menu( I mean , menu on the right side). How to do >> that? >> Does you put jave on server site? >> >> ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Re: Freerunner-powered bike ride
Robin > i like the idea of a generator to charge the neo, but don't like the > idea of using my pedal power directly. Maybe for you it makes more sense to power off the screen and gps so you can get to your destination quicker :) In practice, people haven't been successful in regenerating efficiently enough to get decent power and keep it effortless to the biker. It would be more productive to put flexible solar on your backpack. -- Brad ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Testing for audio playback
Maybe this is more of a standard linux question, but I don't know the answer regardless. Is there a way to test if sound is actually being pumped through the sound card? I can lsof various devices in /dev/snd or check /proc/asound/card0/pcmXX/sub0/status but those only tell me if a client is *connected*. Furthermore, I find it odd that the phone-kit does not seem to go through the alsa pcm but is only connected to /dev/snd/controlC0. Is there some way to know if the phone kit actually active? My ultimate goal is to stop the device from going into suspend mode when sound is being played. Thanks. -- Dylan Maxwell Reilly ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner-powered bike ride
> I took some photos and uploaded them to my blog: > http://andre.web-yard.de/blog/2008/08/03/neo-freerunner-rocks-hard-rides-free/ That looks great! Add a weather proof case/cover and a dynamo charger and that will make for some awesome riding. Cheers, Tim ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 3G (USIM) card different on FSO
On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 11:12 PM, Daniel Willmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> GTA02 and GTA01 see USIM but not SIM using FSO Milestone 2 >> >> just a hinch, but was that your first boot after flashing the device? Possibly as I was changing it a lot. I will recheck tonight. regards, clare ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SDcard holder - convenience "rework"
I guess tomorrow it will be patented and in a few months will be present in GTA03 ;-) On Sun, 03 Aug 2008, steve wrote: > That's pretty damn clever. -- .-. =-- /v\ = Keep in touch// \\ (yoh@|www.)onerussian.com Yaroslav Halchenko /( )\ ICQ#: 60653192 Linux User^^-^^[17] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Edit wiki
not sure what you meant... I know that wiki.openmoko is media-wiki powered. But it is server-side storage/wiki-renderer solution, that is why not appropriate for off-line use. to overcome such problem I decided to look into tiddlywiki (which is a wiki self-contained in a single file) which with appropriate adaptor could prefetch pages from mediawiki. and the end-result is shown on the url I've mentioned -- if you simply save that page to a file -- you get all prefetched pages with you any time (ie offline as well) On Mon, 04 Aug 2008, BrendaWang wrote: > So, it can't work on mediawiki system? > Openmoko wiki used media wiki. > > > Yaroslav Halchenko ??: >> it is all features of tiddlywiki ;-) everything is done on client side >> (ie in the browser) thanks to Java Script ;-) all material (besides >> images) is contained within that very single .html file -- that is the >> beauty of it -- even search works ;-) -- .-. =-- /v\ = Keep in touch// \\ (yoh@|www.)onerussian.com Yaroslav Halchenko /( )\ ICQ#: 60653192 Linux User^^-^^[17] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Edit wiki
Yes, I can help it.
Can you give me your Google Account , then our IT can add you .
Brenda
Yaroslav Halchenko ??:
> ha -- apparently Brenda could add my google account (yarikoptic) to see
> the statistics 'online'
>
> https://www.google.com/support/googleanalytics/bin/answer.py?answer=55500&hl=en_US&utm_id=ad
>
> or otherwise I will just wait for an updated report (I guess smth like
> last 2 weeks would be the best)
>
> On Fri, 01 Aug 2008, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote:
>
>
>> due to restructuring of wiki which is ongoing (isn't it?) I guess it
>> would be great if there was a way to get access to up-to-date monthly
>> reports... and not in pdf although with pdftotext I can get a list of
>> titles with
>>
>
>
>> grep -e '^\(URL\|.\/\).*wiki' attachment-0001.txt | sed -e 's/URL //g' -e
>> 's/ \([^/]\)/\1/g' | tr ' ' '\n' | awk -F \/ '/\/wiki\//{print $3;}' | grep
>> -v Image
>>
>
>
>> so may be later on somehow to automate their prefetching in tiddlywiki
>> wiki...
>>
>
>
>> On Fri, 01 Aug 2008, Minh Ha Duong wrote:
>>
>
>
Prior to making it into .ipkg, I wonder if there is a way to obtain
statistics on what articles on wiki are the most popular, so I could
prepopulate that file with such popular articles. We can't fetch full
wiki.openmoko.org since it would render .html huge.
>
>
>>> Sure:
>>> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Popularpages
>>> and June statistics (posted by Brenda on the community list)
>>> http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/attachments/20080701/18ff1754/attachment-0001.pdf
>>>
>>>
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Re: openmoko-agpsui
Stephen Pape wrote: > I can't find openmoko-agpsui in the repositories anymore, and the > links to download it are broken on the wiki. > > I'm pretty sure that tangogps used to be in the repository too. I > can't even install it from the ipk. > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# opkg install tangogps_0.9.2-r1_armv4t.ipk > Installing tangogps (0.9.2-r1) to root... > Collected errors: > * ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for tangogps: > * gtk+-fastscaling (>= 2.10.14) * > > Anyone know what's going on ? > > Thanks, > -Stephen > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/communityhttp://projects.openmoko.org/projects/openmoko-agpsui/ > agpsui is http://projects.openmoko.org/projects/openmoko-agpsui/ i made a generic pkg from the source a day or so ago if you're too lazy to compile yourself http://we.trekbeyond.org/~kd8ikt/moko/buildz/openmoko-agpsui.ipkg or be a man and svn checkout https://svn.projects.openmoko.org/svnroot/openmoko-agpsui cd openmoko-agpsui . /usr/local/openmoko/arm/setup-env #(assuming you have the toolchain installed) om-conf ./ make om-make-opkg or you could wait around and hope that it finds its way back into the buildhosts daily-feed ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openmoko on Design
I have a MIDI keyboard I can bring with me to LinuxWorld, and a USB/MIDI interface. If your synth is ready in time I'd love to show it. M Jay Vaughan wrote: >> 7) Maybe run some simple synth applications on the FR, using the USB >> host mode to connect it to a MIDI keyboard. > > > this is what i'm doing this weekend .. ;) > > ; > -- > Jay Vaughan > > > > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
