[fso]is there any way to accesswifi eitherthrough the ui? the shell?

2009-01-12 Thread Harry L. Lee
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Re: On the Enlightenment Bleeding Edge

2009-01-12 Thread The Digital Pioneer
OK! Got it. In my GUI, LD_LIBRARY_PATH was set to /usr/etc/e17: while in SSH
it was empty. I wrote a script that simply unsets LD_LIBRARY_PATH and runs
the first parameter and it works. :D I just added it to the commands to run
in all the .desktop files, and voila! It's fixed (dirtily, but effectively).
Here's the script, if anyone wants to copy it. It's hardly worth copying
though, it's so simple

#!/bin/bash

unset LD_LIBRARY_PATH

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Re: buzz fix (was: Pulster offer - Freerunner now 249 eur)

2009-01-12 Thread Carl Lobo
I'm currently playing by setting control.45 - De-emphasis to 48khz to
get some sort of a bass boost.

On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 4:20 AM, Yorick Moko  wrote:
> adding a large cap somewhere
> Joerg /DocScrutinizer told me once on IRC the value, but don't know
> where to place it, better aks him
>
> On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 10:11 PM, Marcel  wrote:
>> Which is...?
>>
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>>
>> Am Sunday 11 January 2009 22:04:20 schrieb Yorick Moko:
>>> there is a fix for the fact that the FR has almost no bass-sound
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 8:44 PM, Korbinian Rosenegger
>>>
>>>  wrote:
>>> > Hi Christoph,
>>> >
>>> > On Sun, 2009-01-11 at 12:55 +0100, Matthias Apitz wrote:
>>> >> Could you please also make an offer for the hardware buzz fix in DE:
>>> >> http://people.openmoko.org/joerg/GSM_EMI_noise/big-C_rework_SOP_rc2.pdf
>>> >> Would be great!
>>> >
>>> > It would be great if you could offer all hardware fixes that are
>>> > possible to do like the GPS-Fix for all GTA02v5 owners:
>>> > http://wiki.openmoko.org/images/5/5b/SOP_for_GPS_capacitor_rework.pdf
>>> > http://wiki.openmoko.org/images/d/dd/Gta02_gps_10pf_rework_sop.pdf
>>> > Even the software fix works fine, when you already have heated up your
>>> > soldering iron for the buzz fix it should only take few minutes to add
>>> > the capacitor :)
>>> >
>>> > I'm not sure if there are other bug fixes, but if there are one, offer
>>> > them, please :)
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > cu Korbi
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
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Re: On the Enlightenment Bleeding Edge

2009-01-12 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
Angus Ainslie wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 9:02 PM, The Digital Pioneer
>  wrote:
>> I'm not sure if you are factoring this into your considerations or not, but
>> all the apps that segfault when launched from GUI do NOT segfault when run
>> from SSH. They all work just fine. Moreover, if the alarm clock app (which
>> segfaults from GUI) is run because the alarm is going off, it works fine.
>> However, these apps do still segfault after running from a GUI terminal (I
>> use vala-terminal) on the phone. The alarm segfaults immediately after the
>> debug output stating that it is starting elementary (or something to that
>> effect, all I remember is that it crashes right after mentioning
>> elementary).
>>
> 
> The LD_LIBRARY_PATH is probably getting set, or changed, after the GUI
> is run but is properly set for terminal sessions. Try writing a script
> that sets the proper environment and then run the apps from the GUI
> using that script. If it works then you need to find where in the GUI
> setup the environment is getting changed.

If you've changed the  /usr/bin/enlightenment_start.oe as I've
suggested, surely the LD_LIBRARY_PATH is affected.
So, removing that parameter from there would fix the issues, since e17
should take the E_PREFIX var to get the needed libraries from the
/usr/e17 path.
I've just tested this in my Om2008 environment, and now I can run with
no problem my "old" efl apps (neon, omview, om-settings...).

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Re: On the Enlightenment Bleeding Edge

2009-01-12 Thread Angus Ainslie
On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 9:02 PM, The Digital Pioneer
 wrote:
> I'm not sure if you are factoring this into your considerations or not, but
> all the apps that segfault when launched from GUI do NOT segfault when run
> from SSH. They all work just fine. Moreover, if the alarm clock app (which
> segfaults from GUI) is run because the alarm is going off, it works fine.
> However, these apps do still segfault after running from a GUI terminal (I
> use vala-terminal) on the phone. The alarm segfaults immediately after the
> debug output stating that it is starting elementary (or something to that
> effect, all I remember is that it crashes right after mentioning
> elementary).
>

The LD_LIBRARY_PATH is probably getting set, or changed, after the GUI
is run but is properly set for terminal sessions. Try writing a script
that sets the proper environment and then run the apps from the GUI
using that script. If it works then you need to find where in the GUI
setup the environment is getting changed.

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Re: which stacks have the most complete python implementation?

2009-01-12 Thread Nikita V. Youshchenko
> both in terms of the standard python libraries and openmoko access?

Debian.

Because almost every python library is available as a debian package. And 
all that may be immediately installed on Debian-based Freerunner.


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Freerunner at Techfest, IIT Mumbai

2009-01-12 Thread rakshat hooja
I am pleased to announce that IDA has formally signed a MOU with the Indian
Institute of Technology, Mumbai to sponsor the Open Hardware, Open Software
and Open Design contests at the Techfest 2009. Techfest (running from 24th
Jan to 26th Jan at IIT, Mumbai) is one of the main student level technology
events in India with students from over 1500 colleges participating in
various activities and events (see www.techfest.org)

As part of the sponsorship deal we get a display area where we will be
primarly displaying the Freerunner. Everyone in the area is welcome to visit
our booth and we are also looking forward to meet the freerunner users in
Mumbai.

As already mentioned Free extra batteries for the first 10 FR owners who
visit us at techfest.

Mail me off list for coordinating meetings.

Regards,

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Re: On the Enlightenment Bleeding Edge

2009-01-12 Thread The Digital Pioneer
I'm not sure if you are factoring this into your considerations or not, but
all the apps that segfault when launched from GUI do NOT segfault when run
from SSH. They all work just fine. Moreover, if the alarm clock app (which
segfaults from GUI) is run because the alarm is going off, it works fine.
However, these apps do still segfault after running from a GUI terminal (I
use vala-terminal) on the phone. The alarm segfaults immediately after the
debug output stating that it is starting elementary (or something to that
effect, all I remember is that it crashes right after mentioning
elementary).

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Re: freeze on GTA02 with high CPU load

2009-01-12 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
Jean-Philippe Andriot wrote:
> I just by a new FreeRunner and flash it with Om2008.12 (kernel, rootfs and 
> u-boot)
> But I have big troubles with it : lcd and everything freeze.
> I use the default image and installed no package yet.
> 
> After doing some tests, I can tell that :
>  + seems ok when phone is charging and running idle (lcd on, suspend disabled)
>  + when CPU is running at 100% during a couple of minutes then freezes.
> this happens easily while playing with contact list, location (moving in the 
> map)
> or going inside installer.
>  + when frozen, next reboots will fail and freeze during X init.
> I have to wait some time before being able to use it again. That makes the 
> phone
> totally unusable.

This seems an issue really similar to the one I had (if you look around
in the archives you should find my reports)... I never noticed the CPU
usage, but simply the phone freezed after some usage due to a glamo issue...
If this is the problem, there's a patch on git that fixes it but I don't
know if it has been applied to the Om2008.12 kernel.

Give a try to this kernel image [1] (that I've compiled with the fix
that works for me), and let me know if you still get these freezes.

Bye

[1]
http://downloads.tuxfamily.org/3v1deb/openmoko/uImage-gta02-stable-3v1n0-git-mixture-2.bin

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Re: On the Enlightenment Bleeding Edge

2009-01-12 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
Joel Newkirk wrote:
> On Fri, 09 Jan 2009 05:47:14 +0100, "Marco Trevisan (Treviño)"
>  wrote:
> 
>> Soon, I'd like to give a newer try to guarana and enjoy (not forgetting
>> the latest elemetary stuffs!)... :P
>> Bye... ;)
> 
> Thank you for this.  :) 
> 
> Please post Elementary when you can - it's utilized for Raster's Alarm as
> well as the SHR telephony apps.

Ok, btw I'm not so sure that the crashes you've witht the SHR tools are
due to that library only... Maybe they simply have been linked with an
older library, so there could be a symbols incompatibility.
Maybe removing the LD_LIBRARY_PATH env variable could fix this issue (so
making the non-e apps using the /usr/lib libraries)...

I've not tested it so much since I'm using an Om2008-based distro and
there some efl apps (like neon) crashes too.

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Re: turning wifi off

2009-01-12 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
Peter Strapp wrote:
> It looks like wifi can be turned on and off using the framework now. It
> uses wmiconfig as below:
> 
> wmiconfig -i eth0 --wlan enable
> wmiconfig -i eth0 --wlan disable
> 
> See:
> http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=specs.git;a=blob_plain;f=html/org.freesmartphone.Device.PowerControl.html;hb=HEAD

Nice... Shouldn't it use also "wmiconfig -i eth0 --setreassocmode 0" to
allow scanning and connecting again?

BTW the 2.6.28 kernel should have also another way to disable the wlan
by using a /sys node (if I don't remember wrong, it should do something
like a "rmmod wifi-module", "insmod wifi-module").

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Re: GPRS unreliable: long lasting connection fail

2009-01-12 Thread Niccolo Rigacci
On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 06:07:45AM -0800, bytestore wrote:
> 
> lcp-echo-interval 3
> lcp-echo-failure 12
> ipcp-restart 10
> persist
> holdoff 15

I suggest you the "maxfail 0", if chat fails you get only 10 
tries. 

This is mine:

...
lcp-echo-interval 20
lcp-echo-failure 9
maxfail 0
holdoff 1
persist

Here it is a pppd log, after the "Connect script failed", nothing 
more succeeded.

Jan 11 15:29:32 om-gta02 daemon.debug pppd[670]: Script /etc/ppp/ip-up finished 
(pid 712), status = 0x0
Jan 11 15:33:46 om-gta02 daemon.info pppd[670]: No response to 9 echo-requests
Jan 11 15:33:46 om-gta02 daemon.notice pppd[670]: Serial link appears to be 
disconnected.
Jan 11 15:33:46 om-gta02 daemon.info pppd[670]: Connect time 4.3 minutes.
Jan 11 15:33:46 om-gta02 daemon.info pppd[670]: Sent 2871 bytes, received 628 
bytes.
Jan 11 15:33:46 om-gta02 daemon.notice pppd[670]: restoring old default route 
to usb0 [192.168.0.200]
Jan 11 15:33:46 om-gta02 daemon.debug pppd[670]: Script /etc/ppp/ip-down 
started (pid 792)
Jan 11 15:33:46 om-gta02 daemon.debug pppd[670]: sent [LCP TermReq id=0x3 "Peer 
not responding"]
Jan 11 15:33:47 om-gta02 daemon.debug pppd[670]: Script /etc/ppp/ip-down 
finished (pid 792), status = 0x0
Jan 11 15:33:49 om-gta02 daemon.debug pppd[670]: sent [LCP TermReq id=0x4 "Peer 
not responding"]
Jan 11 15:33:52 om-gta02 daemon.notice pppd[670]: Connection terminated.
Jan 11 15:33:52 om-gta02 daemon.notice pppd[670]: Modem hangup
Jan 11 15:33:54 om-gta02 daemon.info pppd[670]: Serial port initialized.
Jan 11 15:35:01 om-gta02 daemon.err pppd[670]: Connect script failed

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which stacks have the most complete python implementation?

2009-01-12 Thread Harry L. Lee
both in terms of the standard python libraries and openmoko access?

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Re: turning wifi off

2009-01-12 Thread Peter Strapp
It looks like wifi can be turned on and off using the framework now. It
uses wmiconfig as below:

wmiconfig -i eth0 --wlan enable
wmiconfig -i eth0 --wlan disable

See:
http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=specs.git;a=blob_plain;f=html/org.freesmartphone.Device.PowerControl.html;hb=HEAD
http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=framework.git;a=commit;h=59855d9afbcf60f19b31042bfd95528b8f165419

Peter.



Michał Brzozowski wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I think this applies to all distros.  It's still a big mistery for me 
> how to turn off wifi after you used it so it doesn't drain power.  Or 
> even better turn it off when the phone is suspended and then turn it on 
> again.  I tried 'iwconfig eth0 essid none', 'ifconfig eth0 down', but 
> the phone is still draining a lot of power and the wifi icon is still on 
> in Om2008.12.  I'm looking for a command line solution, but if there's a 
> great app that manages the wifi and turns it off correctly I'd be happy 
> to use it.
>
> Thanks,
> Michal
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[2008.12] GPS from python

2009-01-12 Thread Francesco de Virgilio
Hi all :)
Could someone explain me which is the most easy way to catch lat, lon 
and time from GPS after the fix, using Python?
I use gpsd, TangoGPS etc, and I'm working on a Python app for 
OpenStreetMap smart tagging in real time ;)

I installed python-pygps but it appears that no infos are available 
after the fix, so it appears to me pretty useless.

Any tip / faq / man?
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Re: i'm confused

2009-01-12 Thread Robin Paulson
2009/1/13 Harry L. Lee :
> you presume correctly. thanks!
> I just tried the debian script, install and it failed thus:
> E: Partitioning has failed, partitions have not been created

have a look on the debian wiki, there are solutions for most
installation problems

as an aside, i have to say, you appear to be jumping from distro to
distro, not getting anywhere, then moving on again

neither of the distros works out of the box - they all need some work,
and all have some issues, but try not to get frustrated by this

imo, you'd be better off trying one, and sticking with it for a while,
then later on looking at what it doesn't do for your needs and
possible moving on

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Re: i'm confused

2009-01-12 Thread Robin Paulson
2009/1/13 Harry L. Lee :
> i want to try fso i can find a jffs but not a kernel .bin. link anyone?
>

i presume you mean you can find a rootfs

for kernel:

http://downloads.freesmartphone.org/fso-stable/milestone4.1/

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i'm confused

2009-01-12 Thread Harry L. Lee
i want to try fso i can find a jffs but not a kernel .bin. link anyone?

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Re: SHR: contacts locked and terminal without keyboard

2009-01-12 Thread Fernando Martins
Thanks, finally I have (at least) a basic phone functioning, with SHR! 
Next step, GPS.

Klaus Kurzmann wrote:
> * Fernando Martins  [090112 23:14]:
>   
>> I just flashed SHR latest (2008-12-16) but when I went to contacts and 
>> pressed New it stopped responding. I could not kill it with illume. I 
>> went then to the terminal, however it misses a keyboard. How can I get one?
>> 
> if you tap on the illume top bar you will find a qwerty button that
> switches the keyboard on and off.
>
>   
>> Should it be possible to add new contacts to the Contacts app?
>> 
> yes.
>
>   
>> Regards,
>> Fernando
>> 
>
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Re: turning wifi off

2009-01-12 Thread Michał Brzozowski
Robin Paulson wrote:
> 2009/1/13 Michał Brzozowski :
>   
>> I think this applies to all distros.  It's still a big mistery for me
>> how to turn off wifi after you used it so it doesn't drain power.  Or
>> even better turn it off when the phone is suspended and then turn it on
>> again.  I tried 'iwconfig eth0 essid none', 'ifconfig eth0 down', but
>> the phone is still draining a lot of power and the wifi icon is still on
>> in Om2008.12.  I'm looking for a command line solution, but if there's a
>> great app that manages the wifi and turns it off correctly I'd be happy
>> to use it.
>> 
>
> some simple scripts here, including wifi on/off (properly) which
> apparently work well. i'm giving them a go myself later today:
>
> http://freeyourphone.de/portal_v1/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=295
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Ah, so according to the scripts it's
'iwconfig eth0 txpower off'
I'll give it a try tomorrow.



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Re: turning wifi off

2009-01-12 Thread Robin Paulson
2009/1/13 Michał Brzozowski :
> I think this applies to all distros.  It's still a big mistery for me
> how to turn off wifi after you used it so it doesn't drain power.  Or
> even better turn it off when the phone is suspended and then turn it on
> again.  I tried 'iwconfig eth0 essid none', 'ifconfig eth0 down', but
> the phone is still draining a lot of power and the wifi icon is still on
> in Om2008.12.  I'm looking for a command line solution, but if there's a
> great app that manages the wifi and turns it off correctly I'd be happy
> to use it.

some simple scripts here, including wifi on/off (properly) which
apparently work well. i'm giving them a go myself later today:

http://freeyourphone.de/portal_v1/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=295
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Re: for sale: openmoko phone

2009-01-12 Thread jamal
On Mon, 2009-01-12 at 23:13 +0100, Franky Van Liedekerke wrote:

> echo is solved by a software fix, buzz requires a hardware fix (but
> personally I didn't encounter the buzz issue yet)

Ok, Called the person again and says it is not a buzz - rather an echo.
In the past before this upgrade he used to get a buzz. 

So, dumb question: whats the s/ware fix? Kernel upgrade? 2.6.24 feels so
old.

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Re: SHR: contacts locked and terminal without keyboard

2009-01-12 Thread Klaus Kurzmann
* Fernando Martins  [090112 23:14]:
> I just flashed SHR latest (2008-12-16) but when I went to contacts and 
> pressed New it stopped responding. I could not kill it with illume. I 
> went then to the terminal, however it misses a keyboard. How can I get one?
if you tap on the illume top bar you will find a qwerty button that
switches the keyboard on and off.

> Should it be possible to add new contacts to the Contacts app?
yes.

> Regards,
> Fernando

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turning wifi off

2009-01-12 Thread Michał Brzozowski
Hello,

I think this applies to all distros.  It's still a big mistery for me 
how to turn off wifi after you used it so it doesn't drain power.  Or 
even better turn it off when the phone is suspended and then turn it on 
again.  I tried 'iwconfig eth0 essid none', 'ifconfig eth0 down', but 
the phone is still draining a lot of power and the wifi icon is still on 
in Om2008.12.  I'm looking for a command line solution, but if there's a 
great app that manages the wifi and turns it off correctly I'd be happy 
to use it.

Thanks,
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Re: for sale: openmoko phone

2009-01-12 Thread Franky Van Liedekerke
On Mon, 12 Jan 2009 17:08:47 -0500
jamal  wrote:

> 
> I just made a call using my Fido sim-card and i am told there's still
> some huge echo and someone else mentioned the infamous buzz. Would
> that "buzz" not require one of those hardware mods?
> 
> cheers,
> jamal

echo is solved by a software fix, buzz requires a hardware fix (but
personally I didn't encounter the buzz issue yet)

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SHR: contacts locked and terminal without keyboard

2009-01-12 Thread Fernando Martins
I just flashed SHR latest (2008-12-16) but when I went to contacts and 
pressed New it stopped responding. I could not kill it with illume. I 
went then to the terminal, however it misses a keyboard. How can I get one?

Should it be possible to add new contacts to the Contacts app?

Regards,
Fernando

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Re: for sale: openmoko phone

2009-01-12 Thread jamal
On Mon, 2009-01-12 at 20:30 +0100, Michael Zanetti wrote:

> Yes, I have no GPS + SDCard issues here with rev A5 and no Hardware fix. The 
> software fix does his job great.
> 

Ok, good to know before i go looking for that soldering iron - thanks. 
I believe i have Rev A5.

-
r...@om-gta02:~# cat /proc/cpuinfo 
Processor   : ARM920T rev 0 (v4l)
BogoMIPS: 199.47
Features: swp half thumb 
CPU implementer : 0x41
CPU architecture: 4T
..
..
Hardware: GTA02
Revision: 0350
Serial  : 
-

Image is one i upgraded about a couple of weeks back.
-
r...@om-gta02:~# uname -a
Linux om-gta02 2.6.24 #1 PREEMPT Wed Dec 17 02:13:29 CST 2008 armv4tl
unknown


I just made a call using my Fido sim-card and i am told there's still
some huge echo and someone else mentioned the infamous buzz. Would
that "buzz" not require one of those hardware mods?

cheers,
jamal


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Re: MP3 to OGG converter

2009-01-12 Thread François TOURDE
Le 14254ième jour après Epoch,
rakshat hooja écrivait:

> Can someone suggest a good MP3 to OGG music converter?

There is also oggconvert, from the eponym debian package.

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Re: MD5 checksums for images

2009-01-12 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 06:46:35PM +0100, Fernando Martins wrote:
> I've downloaded images for om2008.12, FSO and SHR and something that 
> puzzles me is the lack of MD5 checksums on these repositories. The sums 
> would just take a couple of minutes to put there, so I'm wondering if 
> there is some other check going on by dfu before flashing??

Whoever cares about MD5 checksums, nowadays, is putting up a farse, at
least demand SHA256 ;)

Rui

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Re: [2008.testing] GPS after resume

2009-01-12 Thread Jeffrey Ratcliffe
2009/1/12 Vladimir Koutny :
> As I wrote already, there is a bug in kernel GPS suspend/resume code which
> leads to GPS not being powered after resume. Simply re-enable it manually via
> Settings, or apply my patch sent to kernel list (but still not merged into 
> git)
> - http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/openmoko-kernel/2009-January/007447.html

Ah. I hadn't spotted that. Thanks for the info.

Regards

Jeff

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Re: for sale: openmoko phone

2009-01-12 Thread Michael Zanetti
On Monday 12 January 2009 18:45:49 jamal wrote:
> On Mon, 2009-01-12 at 12:13 -0500, john dowd wrote:
> > Which version of phone, Free Runner or 1973? Has it the GPS fix?
>
> Mistakenly replied to the address on your signature.
>
> The phone is a freeruner/gta02 circa Aug/2008 - and I have not made any
> hardware mode to fix anything.
> If i understand correctly, with latest kernel images, those issues are
> resolved?

Yes, I have no GPS + SDCard issues here with rev A5 and no Hardware fix. The 
software fix does his job great.

Michael

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Re: [Android] How to close the browser window

2009-01-12 Thread Denis Galvão
Yeah... One more "hack" to be done...

BTW, Im not sure if someone got the same Wifi scan success that I had.  
So I can scan for networks and (doing a copy paste procedure) start a  
new wifi wpa connection. The problem is dhcp that sometimes is not  
working properly and you need to force the  DNS IP itself.

Im using these files:
freerunner-v3.jffs2 2009-Jan-12 01:50:1730.5M
uImage-moredrivers-GTA02_android_458301db547e5375.bin   2009-Jan-09  
16:58:552.4M

From: http://panicking.kicks-ass.org/download/

Qi as bootloader. (2.4M kernel image)

Who is behind those daily builds rootfs and kernel?

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> Denis Galvão wrote:
>> Is there a way to close the browser, or come back to the phone start
>> screen?
>
> I dont' know if it can be closed completely without going back until  
> the
> begin of the navigation, but I can at least make it go in "background"
> by pressing the Menu (power) button -> Windows -> New Window -> Back
> (AUX) button ;)
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Re: [2008.testing] GPS after resume

2009-01-12 Thread Vladimir Koutny
jeffrey.ratcli...@gmail.com wrote:
> Further tests show that
> 
> 1. after resume, Navit does not get another GPS fix
> 2. leaving Navit open, and on forcing a cold start with agpsui, agpsui
> does not even see the time signal (I assume Navit blocks it), but this
> is enough for Navit to get a fix
> 
> So at least there is a workaround.

As I wrote already, there is a bug in kernel GPS suspend/resume code which
leads to GPS not being powered after resume. Simply re-enable it manually via
Settings, or apply my patch sent to kernel list (but still not merged into git)
- http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/openmoko-kernel/2009-January/007447.html

I'm attaching also a version against stable.git for those still running 2.6.24..

Regards,
  Vladimir

> It would be nice if there was some primitive GPS UI built into Navit.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Jeff
> 
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commit 98c1e4301f98d977443104d6206d8ebc91b18bf3
Author: Vladimir Koutny 
Date:   Mon Jan 5 14:16:01 2009 +0100

Fix re-enabling of GPS on resume

The call to gps_pwron_set(0) during suspend would clear power_was_on
flag so the on/off status was always lost

Signed-off-by: Vladimir Koutny 

diff --git a/arch/arm/plat-s3c24xx/neo1973_pm_gps.c b/arch/arm/plat-s3c24xx/neo1973_pm_gps.c
index 73337fa..5ca6691 100644
--- a/arch/arm/plat-s3c24xx/neo1973_pm_gps.c
+++ b/arch/arm/plat-s3c24xx/neo1973_pm_gps.c
@@ -300,8 +300,6 @@ static void gps_pwron_set(int on)
 		if ((!on) && (neo1973_gps.power_was_on))
 			regulator_disable(neo1973_gps.regulator);
 	}
-
-	neo1973_gps.power_was_on = !!on;
 }
 
 static int gps_pwron_get(void)
@@ -358,13 +356,12 @@ static ssize_t power_gps_write(struct device *dev,
 {
 	unsigned long on = simple_strtoul(buf, NULL, 10);
 
-	if (!strcmp(attr->attr.name, "pwron"))
-#ifdef CONFIG_MACH_NEO1973_GTA01
-{
-#endif
+	if (!strcmp(attr->attr.name, "pwron")) {
 		gps_pwron_set(on);
+		neo1973_gps.power_was_on = !!on;
+	}
 #ifdef CONFIG_MACH_NEO1973_GTA01
-	} else if (!strcmp(attr->attr.name, "power_avdd_3v")) {
+	else if (!strcmp(attr->attr.name, "power_avdd_3v")) {
 		gps_power_3v_set(on);
 	} else if (!strcmp(attr->attr.name, "power_tcxo_2v8")) {
 		gps_power_2v8_set(on);
commit e96e0fbc123a1b6cbd8cef6f82dc559124cbcad5
Author: Vladimir Koutny 
Date:   Mon Jan 5 22:35:35 2009 +0100

Fix re-enabling of GPS on resume

The call to gps_pwron_set(0) during suspend would clear power_was_on
flag so the on/off status was always lost

Signed-off-by: Vladimir Koutny 

diff --git a/arch/arm/plat-s3c24xx/neo1973_pm_gps.c b/arch/arm/plat-s3c24xx/neo1973_pm_gps.c
index a21b763..7d56562 100644
--- a/arch/arm/plat-s3c24xx/neo1973_pm_gps.c
+++ b/arch/arm/plat-s3c24xx/neo1973_pm_gps.c
@@ -271,9 +271,6 @@ static int gps_power_1v5_get(void)
 /* This is the POWERON pin */
 static void gps_pwron_set(int on)
 {
-
-	neo1973_gps.power_was_on = !!on;
-
 #ifdef CONFIG_MACH_NEO1973_GTA01
 	if (machine_is_neo1973_gta01())
 		neo1973_gpb_setpin(GTA01_GPIO_GPS_PWRON, on);
@@ -393,6 +390,7 @@ static ssize_t power_gps_write(struct device *dev,
 	} else if (!strcmp(attr->attr.name, "power_avdd_3v")) {
 		gps_power_3v_set(on);
 	} else if (!strcmp(attr->attr.name, "pwron")) {
+		neo1973_gps.power_was_on = !!on;
 		gps_pwron_set(on);
 	} else if (!strcmp(attr->attr.name, "reset")) {
 		gps_rst_set(on);


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Re: [Android] How to close the browser window

2009-01-12 Thread Denis Galvão
Denis Galvão wrote:
> Is there a way to close the browser, or come back to the phone start  
> screen?

It can be closed completely only if you go back until the begin of the
navigation :o, by the way I can put it in background (I've still to
understand if it completely closes and then resumes, or if it only goes
"minimized") by pressing the power (menu) key -> Windows -> New Window
-> AUX (back) button ;).

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Re: for sale: openmoko phone

2009-01-12 Thread jamal
On Mon, 2009-01-12 at 12:13 -0500, john dowd wrote:
> Which version of phone, Free Runner or 1973? Has it the GPS fix?
> 

Mistakenly replied to the address on your signature.

The phone is a freeruner/gta02 circa Aug/2008 - and I have not made any
hardware mode to fix anything. 
If i understand correctly, with latest kernel images, those issues are
resolved?

cheers,
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MD5 checksums for images

2009-01-12 Thread Fernando Martins
I've downloaded images for om2008.12, FSO and SHR and something that 
puzzles me is the lack of MD5 checksums on these repositories. The sums 
would just take a couple of minutes to put there, so I'm wondering if 
there is some other check going on by dfu before flashing??

Regards,
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Re: which SHR image

2009-01-12 Thread Fernando Martins
Very much appreciated, thanks.

the obvious suggestion for the right person would be to have your reply 
as a readme file in the folder...

Fernando

Helge Hafting wrote:
> Fernando Martins wrote:
>   
>> I would like to try SHR but there are plenty of images in SHR image 
>> folder. Which files should I get for flashing?
>> 
>
> The latest is what you want, but of course there are several "latest" 
> images too. At this time of writing, the latest is dated dec.16 and 
> dec.17.  The images dated dec.17 don't seem to be newer, the upload
> must have happened around midnight.
>
> Some of them are described here:
> http://trac.shr-project.org/trac/wiki/Get Started
> This describes the difference between the "lite" image and
> the image that isn't "lite". Basically, "lite" has fewer apps.
>
> So most users don't want "lite", unless they want it as a basis
> for customization.
>
>
> Images with "gta02" in them are for the neo freerunner, images
> with "gta01" in them are for the older neo 1973.
>
> Images with very short names, such as
> "shr-image-om-gta02.jffs2" are just links to images with longer names.
> See the file sizes to see just which ones.
>
> Files with "rootfs" in their names are root file systems (contains
> standard linux software and distribution apps). This gives you three
> files to choose from for a freerunner, assuming you don't want "lite":
>
> openmoko-shr-image-glibc-ipk--20081216-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2
> openmoko-shr-image-glibc-ipk--20081216-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2.summary 
> openmoko-shr-image-glibc-ipk--20081215-om-gta02.rootfs.tar.gz
>
> The ".tar.gz" file is not an image for flashing. It is simply an archive
> with all the files. It is useful in that you can extract the
> files on a pc easily. You may then copy single files to the freerunner
> in order to fix a botched customization without having to reflash. If 
> you have customized over several weeks, then perhaps you don't want to 
> reflash and start from scratch.
>
> Both of the other two works. The "summary" file is slightly bigger, but 
> is preferable. I have no idea why - but was told so.
>
>
> You also need a linux kernel image, in addition to the root file system.
> Kernel images all start with "uImage". The name contain "gta01" or
> "gta02", depending on what phone they are for. Simply get the
> newest that is correct for your phone.
>
> You may also want a "modules" file. If you get one, get the one
> that matches your kernel. If your kernel has "oe03" and "gta02" in
> the name, then so should the module file. The "git" part of the
> name should match too. Modules are extra drivers.  You don't
> need them right away, I haven't bothered yet. You may need them if you 
> want to do something slightly unusal, such as connecting USB devices
> to the phone.
>
> module files aren't images for flashing, you unpack them on the phone
> using linux commands, after you have the SHR image running normally.
>
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Re: for sale: openmoko phone

2009-01-12 Thread john dowd
Which version of phone, Free Runner or 1973? Has it the GPS fix?

On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 12:05 PM, jamal  wrote:
> Salut,
>
> Ive been sitting on an openmoko phone i bought when the website first
> came up in July/Aug 2008. It is in good shape given i hardly used it.
>
> Make me an offer in Ottawa - I will meet you at some coffee shop and
> exchange it for cash.
>
> cheers,
> jamal
>
>
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for sale: openmoko phone

2009-01-12 Thread jamal
Salut,

Ive been sitting on an openmoko phone i bought when the website first
came up in July/Aug 2008. It is in good shape given i hardly used it.
 
Make me an offer in Ottawa - I will meet you at some coffee shop and 
exchange it for cash.

cheers,
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Re: On the Enlightenment Bleeding Edge

2009-01-12 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
Helge Hafting wrote:
> Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote:
> 
>>  - Now you may also configure E, from the wrench, to use the
>>"software_16" rendering engine (it causes less quality, but more
>>speed) and a lower framerate value...
> 
> Where exactly would that be? I tried the wrench, and waded through a
> multitude of options. But I didn't find this software_16 thing. Or does
> it require something beyond your /usr/e17/ tree?
> Something that might be lacking from SHR?

SHR should use that rendering setting by default, in illume-.svn you've
to go to the wrench -> Advanced -> Engine -> Default Engine ->
SOFTWARE_16 ;)

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Re: [Android] How to close the browser window

2009-01-12 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
Denis Galvão wrote:
> Is there a way to close the browser, or come back to the phone start  
> screen?

I dont' know if it can be closed completely without going back until the
begin of the navigation, but I can at least make it go in "background"
by pressing the Menu (power) button -> Windows -> New Window -> Back
(AUX) button ;)

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Re: Function - Plotter for OM,

2009-01-12 Thread Neil Jerram
2009/1/12 Pander :
> Make a port of gnuplot

Or use Debian or Hackable:1, which already have gnuplot.

 Neil

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RE: FSO, Navit and more

2009-01-12 Thread KaZeR
 

> -Message d'origine-
> De : community-boun...@lists.openmoko.org 
> [mailto:community-boun...@lists.openmoko.org] De la part de lollisoft
> Envoyé : lundi 12 janvier 2009 15:21
> À : community@lists.openmoko.org
> Objet : Re: FSO, Navit and more
> 
> 
> I have an account (Lollisoft), but lost my password.
> 
> The trac seems to not have a lost password link. Did it ?
> 

It's now using the same accounts as the wiki (http://wiki.navit-project.org)


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RE: FSO, Navit and more

2009-01-12 Thread KaZeR
 

> -Message d'origine-
> De : community-boun...@lists.openmoko.org 
> [mailto:community-boun...@lists.openmoko.org] De la part de sledge
> Envoyé : lundi 12 janvier 2009 12:41
> À : community@lists.openmoko.org
> Objet : Re: FSO, Navit and more
> 
> 
> Hello,
> 
> 
> lollisoft wrote:
> > 
> > Navit:
> > 
> > What I am missing is the fact that the keyboard is still a bit 
> > unusable when not in landscape mode.
> > I cannot get all keys pressed. Trying the system keyboard 
> as for other 
> > applications doesn't work anyhow.
> > 
> 
> Is there a bug track available on this issue somewhere, so we 
> would be able to track/comment it together and even maybe contribute?
> 

http://trac.navit-project.org might be the right place.
But i have no issues with the keyboard: just ensure that you enabled all
settings recommanded for the FR in navit.xml (like buttons icons & size). I
can use it in portrait mode without issues (i could make a sshot later
today).


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Re: Function - Plotter for OM,

2009-01-12 Thread Pander
Make a port of gnuplot

Richy wrote:
> Hi out there,
> 
> is there a function plotter for the Openmoko available? For drawing
> equations like "x²+y2+5x-2y = 53,23"
> 
> That would be really neat.
> 
> Thanks  a lot!
> 
> 
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Function - Plotter for OM,

2009-01-12 Thread Richy
Hi out there,

is there a function plotter for the Openmoko available? For drawing
equations like "x²+y2+5x-2y = 53,23"

That would be really neat.

Thanks  a lot!


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Community update

2009-01-12 Thread Minh Ha Duong
Hi! 

This is the nineth Community Updates, January 12th issue.

For the new year we interviewed Sean on everything that matters for the 
community: sales in 2008 were around the low five digits, om-locations is 
what remains of an ambitious mesh network project, and the most surprising 
development to him was the explosion of distributions. Back on the mailing 
lists, activity was rater slow during the first week of the year, but got 
more intense than ever after the holidays. Illume's keyboard received lots of 
localisations. Opkg.org reached a critical mass of packages. SHR and FSO are 
counting down toward their next milestone, while coding continues for kernel, 
drivers, Android and the like. It looks like the switch to 2.6.28 is going to 
happen soonish, before the switch to the Paroli phone stack.

The newsletter is also available with links at
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates/January_12th%2C_2009

Contents
* 1 Distributions
* 2 New applications
* 3 Ports and updates
* 4 Community
* 5 Hardware and drivers
* 6 Tips and tricks

1. Distributions

* SHR: According to Julien's latest on the SHR project blog, the baby is 
expected really soon now.
* Marek announced the new organisation of package and images repositories.
* Android: The latest compatible kernel has wifi and bluetooth working 
now. Suspend and reboot are still broken.
* FSO MS5 should branch out for really soon now (the roadmap says release 
January 31st, but they want a longer stabilization period this time). It will 
be the first milestone that will have support not only for GTA01 and 02, but 
also for the Motorola EZX A780. meeting minutes.
* Hackable:1 buildbot is up and running. Images are generated every 
morning around 4:00. Happy testing !
* User:Bytestore has updated assemblage 2008.12 from Russian community, 
work with gprs, headphone jack plug, ru keyboard and many other things were 
updated (download rootfs, see screenshots) 

2. New applications

* LED clock When an Openmoko is sitting unused at night, turn it into an 
alarm clock with large 7-segment digits on a black background in landscape 
mode.
* GPRSsettings is a GUI script designed to change apn, login, dialnumber.
* Samuel's script for a toggle wifi icon.
* ylock 0.1 Python screen lock and low battery monits.
* AppManager 1.0.1 Zenity package manager.
* Mirko announced that pre-alpha Paroli was now packaged in testing. 
Development moved to their own domain: paroli-project hosts trac, git, blog 
and documentation.
* Kurt's Gwaterpas allows to use the Freerunner as a leveling tool.
* There are now 75 packages at opkg.org. Novelties include osmupdater 
(updates OSM maps directory), sortdesk (sorts the desk), MokoCard (flashcards 
learning aid), sms-sentry (query the unit's location by SMS, handy if it was 
just stolen), pyring (a key ring), EFpLayer (mplayer GUI), playstankontakarta 
(an icon displaying remaining credit with POLISH PLAY pre-paid phone 
provider), various illume keyboards and more. It was mentioned unofficially 
that Openmoko's community repository is going to be dismantled. 

3. Ports and updates

* Lots of Navit activity. Distributions are kindly suggested to package 
the sample map separately from the main binary to conserve space.
* The opkg package manager development moved from OM svn to Google code. 
The recommended stable version is r172, there is a significant data 
structures+algorithm refactorization going on.
* Version 2.4 of orrery is now available. It has a new schematic Solar 
System View page, showing the position of the planets and our moon in their 
orbits, a new moon calendar, and a less ugly icon.
* The ZOMG! package manager is now available on opkg.org, and now allows 
to add/remove/edit repositories (i.e. feeds).
* Angus updated BtGPS.py to work with FSO. With this script, the 
FreeRunner works as a bluetooth GPS.
* Marco shared his success in compiling the latest E17 svn on 2008.12. 
There was trouble on SHR with the Elementary widget set, tough. 

4. Community

* Sean's new year interview
* Rakshat Hooja's company IDA Systems will be at Mumbai's TechFest. There 
are gifts waiting for the first 10 FreeRunner owners to show up at their 
booth!
* The Future of location services thread started as an attempt to clarify 
the GPS drivers tangle, and then turned to using GSM celltowers and wifi 
access points location information. Dima signalled that there are several 
free databases of GSM tower locations, and that his gta02 Perl script to 
query OpenCellID for the approximate tower location, and then initialize the 
AGPS with this data works great. There is a database of Wifi access points at 
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Re: Allegro the game library

2009-01-12 Thread Rafael Ignacio Zurita
Hello, 

--- On Mon, 1/12/09, ruso...@poczta.fm  wrote:
> As some of you may know, there's a game library called
> Allegro.  It includes support for graphics (3d, but not
> accelerated), sound, keyboard, mouse, etc.  It works, among
> others, on Linux using xorg for graphics.
> 
> Long time ago I've written a game that uses it, and I
> think this game would be really cool played on the GTA using
> accelerometers.  I'm thinking about porting it, but I
> don't really know where to start with porting Allegro. 
> Any hints on how to do this and how hard it might be? 
> I've never done any development for GTA, hence this
> question.
> 
> BTW, it will be very easy to write new games if Allegro is
> fully ported.

"Liquid War" uses Allegro so perhaps you could use the same Allegro
armv4t package?

http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Liquid_War
http://mojo.org.ua/moka/allegro_4.2.2-1_armv4t.ipk

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Re: FSO, Navit and more

2009-01-12 Thread lollisoft

I have an account (Lollisoft), but lost my password.

The trac seems to not have a lost password link. Did it ?

Lothar


lollisoft wrote:
> 
> Not yet. I'am not sure if I have yet an account.
> 
> I will file a bug report next time...
> 
> Lothar
> 
> 
> sledge wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> 
>> lollisoft wrote:
>>> 
>>> Navit:
>>> 
>>> What I am missing is the fact that the keyboard is still a bit unusable
>>> when not in landscape mode.
>>> I cannot get all keys pressed. Trying the system keyboard as for other
>>> applications doesn't work anyhow.
>>> 
>> 
>> Is there a bug track available on this issue somewhere, so we would be
>> able to track/comment it together and even maybe contribute?
>> 
>> Thank you,
>> 
>> -- 
>> sledge
>> 
> 
> 

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Re: Re: Allegro the game library

2009-01-12 Thread rusolis
Sander van Grieken napisał(a):
> > Hi,
> >
> > As some of you may know, there's a game library called Allegro.  It
> includes support for
> > graphics (3d, but not accelerated), sound, keyboard, mouse, etc.  It
> works, among
> > others, on Linux using xorg for graphics.
> >
> > Long time ago I've written a game that uses it, and I think this game
> would be really
> > cool played on the GTA using accelerometers.  I'm thinking about 
> > porting
> it, but I don't
> > really know where to start with porting Allegro.  Any hints on how to do
> this and how
> > hard it might be?  I've never done any development for GTA, hence this
> question.
> 
> The main problem I think will be the floating point calculations, as it
> does 3d and
> sound, and armv4 has no floating point support...

Oh, I haven't realized this.  Fortunately Allegro can do graphics using fixed 
point.

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Re: Allegro the game library

2009-01-12 Thread Sander van Grieken
> Hi,
>
> As some of you may know, there's a game library called Allegro.  It includes 
> support for
> graphics (3d, but not accelerated), sound, keyboard, mouse, etc.  It works, 
> among
> others, on Linux using xorg for graphics.
>
> Long time ago I've written a game that uses it, and I think this game would 
> be really
> cool played on the GTA using accelerometers.  I'm thinking about porting it, 
> but I don't
> really know where to start with porting Allegro.  Any hints on how to do this 
> and how
> hard it might be?  I've never done any development for GTA, hence this 
> question.

The main problem I think will be the floating point calculations, as it does 3d 
and
sound, and armv4 has no floating point support...

grtz,
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Re: FSO, Navit and more

2009-01-12 Thread lollisoft

Not yet. I'am not sure if I have yet an account.

I will file a bug report next time...

Lothar


sledge wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> 
> lollisoft wrote:
>> 
>> Navit:
>> 
>> What I am missing is the fact that the keyboard is still a bit unusable
>> when not in landscape mode.
>> I cannot get all keys pressed. Trying the system keyboard as for other
>> applications doesn't work anyhow.
>> 
> 
> Is there a bug track available on this issue somewhere, so we would be
> able to track/comment it together and even maybe contribute?
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> -- 
> sledge
> 

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Re: GPRS unreliable: long lasting connection fail

2009-01-12 Thread bytestore



Niccolo Rigacci wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I cannot get a reliable GPRS connection lasting for some hours, 
> while driving.
> 
> There is a problem with pppd, which does not restart the gprs 
> connection when failed: it seems that pppd options "persist" and 
> "holdoff" are not honored.
> 
> 

hmm 
my config is
/etc/ppp/peers/gprs
connect /etc/ppp/gprs-connect-chat
disconnect /etc/ppp/gprs-disconnect-chat
crtscts
lock
hide-password
defaultroute
usepeerdns
ipcp-accept-local
noauth
noipdefault
novj
novjccomp
replacedefaultroute
lcp-echo-interval 3
lcp-echo-failure 12
ipcp-restart 10
persist
holdoff 15

user "beeline"

try this http://projects.openmoko.org/frs/download.php/585/gprssettings.py
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Re: [2008.12] Qwerty keyboard and wrench

2009-01-12 Thread naguz

Hi,

Tried your patch now. It gives me the qwerty-"button" back, but it only
toggles the qte-keyboard. Not the illume one. The wrench is till not there,
so i have no way of changing it either.
It should have been possible to define which keyboard to use via ssh. Life
would bo so much easier then..
Not related to ypur patch:
I cannot get rastermans keyboard to work in hte illume-theme either. Only
the default illume one. Yet I have tried every guide in every wiki (well,
almost, anyway) to get rastermans keyboard working. I do not understand
this.

Running OM2008.12, installed all availible updates


buergi wrote:
> 
>> After using the neo for a while, again the qwerty keyboard disappears and
>> I
>> have to reboot to have it back.
> 
> i've the same problem, but only sometimes, not very often.
> 
> i've made a dirty patch package[1,2,3] for illume-theme-asu
> (0.0+svnr4783-r7.04) a few days ago, it works great.
> most of the time there is even no need to set
> QTOPIA_NO_VIRTUAL_KEYBOARD=1 anymore, but as you said i discovered that
> sometimes qtopia takes over and suddenly illume's keyboard is gone and
> the qtopia eyboard reapperars. after a
> rm -fr ~/.e ; /etc/init.d/xserver-nodm restart
> the illume keyboard is back again.
> the reason is that illume sets kbd.use_internal=0 in illume.module.cfg,
> no idea why.
> 
> this patch also brings back the wrench, but the problem is that the
> content of the subdialogs are shifted right, out of the visible area,
> see the screenshot[4].
> i've no idea why that happens, or how to fix it, does anyone have an idea?
> 
> buergi
> 
> [1]
> http://pbuergi.pb.funpic.de/openmoko/pkgs/activate-illume-keyboard_0.1_armv4t.opk
> [2]
> http://pbuergi.pb.funpic.de/openmoko/pkgs/activate-illume-keyboard.tar.gz
> [3] http://pbuergi.pb.funpic.de/openmoko/howtos/howto_illume_kbd.txt
> [4] http://pbuergi.pb.funpic.de/openmoko/illume-cfg-dialog.jpg
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Allegro the game library

2009-01-12 Thread rusolis
Hi,

As some of you may know, there's a game library called Allegro.  It includes 
support for graphics (3d, but not accelerated), sound, keyboard, mouse, etc.  
It works, among others, on Linux using xorg for graphics.

Long time ago I've written a game that uses it, and I think this game would be 
really cool played on the GTA using accelerometers.  I'm thinking about porting 
it, but I don't really know where to start with porting Allegro.  Any hints on 
how to do this and how hard it might be?  I've never done any development for 
GTA, hence this question.

BTW, it will be very easy to write new games if Allegro is fully ported.

Thanks,
Michal

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freeze on GTA02 with high CPU load

2009-01-12 Thread Jean-Philippe Andriot

Hello,

I just by a new FreeRunner and flash it with Om2008.12 (kernel, rootfs and 
u-boot)
But I have big troubles with it : lcd and everything freeze.
I use the default image and installed no package yet.

After doing some tests, I can tell that :
 + seems ok when phone is charging and running idle (lcd on, suspend disabled)
 + when CPU is running at 100% during a couple of minutes then freezes.
this happens easily while playing with contact list, location (moving in the 
map)
or going inside installer.
 + when frozen, next reboots will fail and freeze during X init.
I have to wait some time before being able to use it again. That makes the phone
totally unusable.

I think about something overheated, but nothing seems very hot. I checked 
battery temp
value before phone freezes and is around 280.

Is there any other temp counter I can check ? may I verify CPU voltage ? which 
other
test should I do ?

Any help would be appreciate.
Thanks.


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Re: which SHR image

2009-01-12 Thread Thomas Franck
Helge Hafting wrote:
[an excellent and helpful text]

Wow.. that was thorough... Thank you for that - although I'm past that
stage it was very good to read..

Maybe one more thing to ask (as I have no clue):

Do you happen to know the difference between the unstable and testing
images of SHR..?

 I used to flash the testing images (as linked to by the wiki[1]) but
noticed the other folder the other day..

Cheers..

[1] http://shr.bearstech.com/trac/wiki/Get%20Started
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Re: Paroli Base

2009-01-12 Thread William Kenworthy
On Mon, 2009-01-12 at 13:13 +0100, Mirko Lindner wrote:
> Hi
> 
> William Kenworthy wrote:
> > On Mon, 2009-01-12 at 10:40 +0100, Jorge Luis Zapata wrote:
> > 
> > Just an observation - looking at your website in firefox, the white text
> > on very dark grey is readable, but the dark grey on very dark grey is
> > barely visible and to all intents unreadable - more contrast is needed.
> 
> I changed the colors, thx for the tip :)
> 
> /mirko
> 
much better.

Thanks,
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Re: Paroli Base

2009-01-12 Thread Mirko Lindner
Hi

William Kenworthy wrote:
> On Mon, 2009-01-12 at 10:40 +0100, Jorge Luis Zapata wrote:
> 
> Just an observation - looking at your website in firefox, the white text
> on very dark grey is readable, but the dark grey on very dark grey is
> barely visible and to all intents unreadable - more contrast is needed.

I changed the colors, thx for the tip :)

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Re: Conflict when several apps use the accelerometers?

2009-01-12 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 11:42:37AM +0100, Helge Hafting wrote:
> Is it possible to let several apps use the accelerometers, similiar to
> how several apps may share the gps unit?
> 
> I noticed that omnewrotate seems to monopolize the accelerometers,
> so openmoocow and duke can't use them.  Omnewrotate is
> useful to have, and there will probably be more games using the 
> accelerometers.

Hi,

omnewrotate is quite blind to what is running.

If you have an application which uses accelerometers you are much better
off not running omnewrotate at the same time, regardless of solving the
monopolization problem.

Imagine it is solved:
If the application uses the accelerometers then you may have some
problems when you hit a position where it thinks it should
rotate the screen. I can imagine how this would be a problem
with Pingus, for instance.

I plan to have a toggling script for use in the desktop icon, instead of
a starter script.

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Re: Re: [2008.testing] GPS after resume

2009-01-12 Thread jeffrey . ratcliffe

Further tests show that

1. after resume, Navit does not get another GPS fix
2. leaving Navit open, and on forcing a cold start with agpsui, agpsui does  
not even see the time signal (I assume Navit blocks it), but this is enough  
for Navit to get a fix


So at least there is a workaround.

It would be nice if there was some primitive GPS UI built into Navit.

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Re: GPRS unreliable: long lasting connection fail

2009-01-12 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Tom Yates  writes:
> my battery won't last that long!

Use $14 usb battery from

http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.3060

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Re: [ogsmd] Out-of-spec GSM number - who should I report to?

2009-01-12 Thread Daniel Willmann
On Wed, 7 Jan 2009 09:28:09 +0100
g...@ergoarte.ch wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I am seeing this error:
> Jan  7 09:08:52 debian-gta02 2009.01.07 09:08:52 ogsmdWARNING
> Out-of-spec GSM number type seen: 160. Please report.

This is binary b1010 which means according to GSM 03.40, page 35
type-of-number: National Number, numbering-plan-identification: Unknown

It's definitely not out of spec and probably not even that unusual.

The phonebookTupleToNumber function in gsm/const.py doesn't seem to be
very smart. I started working on some functions for GSM addresses in
the PDUAddress class in gsm/sms.py. In any case this shouldn't have any
impact on functionality since it just prints out the warning.

> I would like to report this, but where? What extra information would
> be of interest? 

All FSO related bugs should go to http://trac.freesmartphone.org/
I experienced the same "hangs" that you mentioned recently. I'm unable
to answer the phone and the phone will keep ringing forever.
Please try to reproduce the problem with log_level set to DEBUG in
[ogsmd] and post your log.

Regards,
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Re: FSO, Navit and more

2009-01-12 Thread sledge

Hello,


lollisoft wrote:
> 
> Navit:
> 
> What I am missing is the fact that the keyboard is still a bit unusable
> when not in landscape mode.
> I cannot get all keys pressed. Trying the system keyboard as for other
> applications doesn't work anyhow.
> 

Is there a bug track available on this issue somewhere, so we would be able
to track/comment it together and even maybe contribute?

Thank you,

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Re: Paroli Base

2009-01-12 Thread William Kenworthy
On Mon, 2009-01-12 at 10:40 +0100, Jorge Luis Zapata wrote:
...
> >>
> >> We also have opened a new base for information, updates and bug tracking:
> >> http://www.paroli-project.org
> >>


Just an observation - looking at your website in firefox, the white text
on very dark grey is readable, but the dark grey on very dark grey is
barely visible and to all intents unreadable - more contrast is needed.

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Re: Conflict when several apps use the accelerometers?

2009-01-12 Thread Al Johnson
On Monday 12 January 2009, Helge Hafting wrote:
> Is it possible to let several apps use the accelerometers, similiar to
> how several apps may share the gps unit?
>
> I noticed that omnewrotate seems to monopolize the accelerometers,
> so openmoocow and duke can't use them.  Omnewrotate is
> useful to have, and there will probably be more games using the
> accelerometers.

The gps unit itself is single access too - we use gpsd, gypsy or ogpsd to 
allow access by multiple apps. The same goes for (most) sound interfaces, 
with esd, pulseaudio and so on providing mediation for multiple apps. So far 
we don't have anything to do this with the accelerometers AFAIK.

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Re: which SHR image

2009-01-12 Thread Helge Hafting
Fernando Martins wrote:
> I would like to try SHR but there are plenty of images in SHR image 
> folder. Which files should I get for flashing?

The latest is what you want, but of course there are several "latest" 
images too. At this time of writing, the latest is dated dec.16 and 
dec.17.  The images dated dec.17 don't seem to be newer, the upload
must have happened around midnight.

Some of them are described here:
http://trac.shr-project.org/trac/wiki/Get Started
This describes the difference between the "lite" image and
the image that isn't "lite". Basically, "lite" has fewer apps.

So most users don't want "lite", unless they want it as a basis
for customization.


Images with "gta02" in them are for the neo freerunner, images
with "gta01" in them are for the older neo 1973.

Images with very short names, such as
"shr-image-om-gta02.jffs2" are just links to images with longer names.
See the file sizes to see just which ones.

Files with "rootfs" in their names are root file systems (contains
standard linux software and distribution apps). This gives you three
files to choose from for a freerunner, assuming you don't want "lite":

openmoko-shr-image-glibc-ipk--20081216-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2
openmoko-shr-image-glibc-ipk--20081216-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2.summary 
openmoko-shr-image-glibc-ipk--20081215-om-gta02.rootfs.tar.gz

The ".tar.gz" file is not an image for flashing. It is simply an archive
with all the files. It is useful in that you can extract the
files on a pc easily. You may then copy single files to the freerunner
in order to fix a botched customization without having to reflash. If 
you have customized over several weeks, then perhaps you don't want to 
reflash and start from scratch.

Both of the other two works. The "summary" file is slightly bigger, but 
is preferable. I have no idea why - but was told so.


You also need a linux kernel image, in addition to the root file system.
Kernel images all start with "uImage". The name contain "gta01" or
"gta02", depending on what phone they are for. Simply get the
newest that is correct for your phone.

You may also want a "modules" file. If you get one, get the one
that matches your kernel. If your kernel has "oe03" and "gta02" in
the name, then so should the module file. The "git" part of the
name should match too. Modules are extra drivers.  You don't
need them right away, I haven't bothered yet. You may need them if you 
want to do something slightly unusal, such as connecting USB devices
to the phone.

module files aren't images for flashing, you unpack them on the phone
using linux commands, after you have the SHR image running normally.

Helge Hafting

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Re: GPRS unreliable: long lasting connection fail

2009-01-12 Thread Helge Hafting
Tom Yates wrote:
> On Mon, 12 Jan 2009, Niccolo Rigacci wrote:
> 
>> I use a car lighter adapter :-)
> 
> ah, ok.  i don't have a car, and it's trickier to do the wiring on a 
> motorcycle.
>
You can have a cigarette lighter plug installed on a motorcycle too.
If you don't want that, consider something simpler like
connecting to the headlamp. Or the ignition switch.
Just don't go directly to the battery,
there should at least be a fuse between the adapter and the battery.

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Conflict when several apps use the accelerometers?

2009-01-12 Thread Helge Hafting
Is it possible to let several apps use the accelerometers, similiar to
how several apps may share the gps unit?

I noticed that omnewrotate seems to monopolize the accelerometers,
so openmoocow and duke can't use them.  Omnewrotate is
useful to have, and there will probably be more games using the 
accelerometers.

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Re: GPRS unreliable: long lasting connection fail

2009-01-12 Thread Tom Yates
On Mon, 12 Jan 2009, Niccolo Rigacci wrote:

> I use a car lighter adapter :-)

ah, ok.  i don't have a car, and it's trickier to do the wiring on a 
motorcycle.

> I can pass from cell to cell through long highway tunnels and the
> GSM modem handles the connection recover transparently, pppd does
> not notice it.

ok, we both see that behaviour.

> But if the pppd notice the failure (due LCP echo request timeout), it 
> cannot recover.
>
> I had experience of PPP over DSL lines, where "persist" and
> "holdoff" parameters did the trick, but it seems that pppd on the
> FreeRunner has a bug.

then i'd have to say i see that behaviour, too.  at those times i bounce 
pppd manually, and the connection generally comes back fine.  but if what 
you're saying is that when the underlying connection goes away long enough 
for pppd to notice, it doesn't autorecover, then i'd say i see the same 
thing.  it just doesn't happen often enough to me that i've looked into 
it.


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Re: GPRS unreliable: long lasting connection fail

2009-01-12 Thread Niccolo Rigacci
On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 09:41:57AM +, Tom Yates wrote:
>
>> I hope to last 12 hours or so, because I do GPS live tracking
>> with position upload to the internet every 5/10 seconds.
>
> my battery won't last that long!

I use a car lighter adapter :-)

> i'm not sure that pppd is handling the autorecovery, though; i have a  
> vague feeling it's the call handling between the calypso chip and the 
> base station(s)

I can pass from cell to cell through long highway tunnels and the 
GSM modem handles the connection recover transparently, pppd does 
not notice it. But if the pppd notice the failure (due LCP echo 
request timeout), it cannot recover.

I had experience of PPP over DSL lines, where "persist" and 
"holdoff" parameters did the trick, but it seems that pppd on the 
FreeRunner has a bug.

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Re: which SHR image

2009-01-12 Thread Julien Cassignol
On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 9:11 AM, Fernando Martins  wrote:
> I would like to try SHR but there are plenty of images in SHR image
> folder. Which files should I get for flashing?

The latest! :-)

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Re: [debian] Re: disable power-button

2009-01-12 Thread ant

The GTA02 isn't too hard to dismantle - four screws and a stiff 
thumbnail/guitar pick - so you could just /remove/ the power button - IIRC 
it's just a plastic moulding slipped in over the microswitch. Cover the hole 
with some tape and off you go.

On Friday 09 January 2009 16:26:56 Davide Scaini wrote:
> I was interested in something similar... I could I change the action of the
> single-press power button? i would like to do something more than just
> supend (like switch down the wifi with wmiconfig that works reliably for
> me) is that something embedded in kernel like the shutdown?
> thanks in advance for your reply
> d
>
> On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 4:26 PM, arne anka  wrote:
> > > Actually, the kernel will call shutdown if the power is held for 8
> > > seconds.
> >
> > ah! wasn't sure about that -- i sort of hoped, fso would consume the key
> > press and do it's own stuff to shutdown.
> >



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Re: Paroli Base

2009-01-12 Thread Jorge Luis Zapata
Jeremy Chang wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 09, 2009 at 09:40:03AM +0100, Mirko Lindner wrote:
>> The Paroli Team wishes all of you a happy new year.
>>
>> Our last update was a while back but development continued and, despite 
>> sickness, vacations, Christmas, New Year's as well as jet lags, a lot 
>> has been accomplished.
>>
>> Most importantly, you can now find a paroli package in the testing 
>> repository[1] which can be installed via opkg.
>>
>> The package[2] is at pre-alpha state but the main phone functions are 
>> available and ready to be tested. Please note paroli is not considered a 
>> daily phone app, yet. You will find it can be rather unstable at times 
>> and might not always react the way you would expect ;) We hope that with 
>> the help of the community and lots of hard work we can reach a state 
>> where paroli can be considered reliable soon.
>>
>> Information on how to run and use paroli can be found here[3]
>>
>> We also have opened a new base for information, updates and bug tracking:
>> http://www.paroli-project.org
>>
>> The main part is a blog which we will use to inform of small changes, 
>> publish tutorials and interesting facts we discover along the road. The 
>> page also contains a rough overview of our goals and how we plan to get 
>> there, it is a bit scarce right now, but will be filled up 
>> continuously. We are hoping for your input via mail, irc, chat or 
>> comment fields on our blog.
>>
>> Our new bug tracker resides at http://www.paroli-project.org/trac . It 
>> is rather virgin up to now so we encourage you to test paroli and note 
>> your findings ;)
>>
>> We also moved our source repository which can now be found at:
>> http://git.paroli-project.org/?p=paroli.git;a=summary [4]
> Execuse me?!  We changed from git.OM to here? 
> Why I don't know this anytime before?

Same opinion here. I had no idea about this. Is there a why?

>  
>> As you can see the paroli has great plans for 2009 and we hope some of 
>> you will join us and follow our efforts.
>>
>> /The paroli Team
>>
>> [1]
>> http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/testing/armv4t/
>>
>> [2]
>> A rough overview about how this package differs from the last tichy package:
>>
>> Tichy migrated into paroli-core and is now a vital part of paroli.
>> It is a slimmed down and more paroli focused version. Among other things 
>> EFL is now the default graphical library and the starting process has 
>> been optimized.Yaml was replaced with ParseConfig due to performance 
>> issues.Plus lots of other small, nifty details.
>>
>> [3]
>> http://www.paroli-project.org/running-paroli/
>>
>> [4]
>> checkout via git clone http://git.paroli-project.org/paroli.git
>>
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Re: GPRS unreliable: long lasting connection fail

2009-01-12 Thread Tom Yates
On Mon, 12 Jan 2009, Niccolo Rigacci wrote:

> On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 08:13:56AM +, Tom Yates wrote:
>>
>> i use 2008.12 with gsm0710uxd, and i've had fairly long travelling GPRS
>> calls (15-20 minutes on the train back from london).
>
> Please tell me: with gsm0710uxd the connection is still done by
> pppd/chat?

it definitely is.  read my writeup at 
http://www.teaparty.net/technotes/openmoko-2.html#GPRS if you want to see 
exactly what i'm doing (my writeup's about 2008.09, but it's identical to 
the setup i just did for 2008.12 save that gsm0710muxd was in the 
repository so i didn't have to get the packages manually.

> I hope to last 12 hours or so, because I do GPS live tracking
> with position upload to the internet every 5/10 seconds.

my battery won't last that long!

> But the real problem is that if the connection fails, it will not
> restart again. I can add a cronjob to test connection and restart
> it, but I know that pppd should manage the fault.

i have *definitely* had pppd drop and autorecover the connection on 
shorter calls (eg, on the train - the cambridge-london line has tunnels on 
it, which provide a handy means of testing drop/recover).

i'm not sure that pppd is handling the autorecovery, though; i have a 
vague feeling it's the call handling between the calypso chip and the base 
station(s) that are responsible for setting up my GPRS connection again). 
i can post my ppp and ping logs next time i see this behaviour, if you'd 
like, so we can see if ppp even appears to notice the outage?


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Re: GPRS unreliable: long lasting connection fail

2009-01-12 Thread Andrew Stephen
On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 9:39 PM, Niccolo Rigacci  wrote:
>
[snip]
> Please tell me: with gsm0710uxd the connection is still done by
> pppd/chat?

Yes - gsm0710muxd creates a new serial device for each application
needing access to the GSM device.  You just call pppd with its own
device.
[snip]
>
> I hope to last 12 hours or so, because I do GPS live tracking
> with position upload to the internet every 5/10 seconds.
[snip]

I've run GPRS for several hours at a time in a car travelling in some
dodgy reception areas.  Sometimes it seemsed to lose connection and
re-establish itself gracefully but more often than not I'd find that
GPRS had died and pppd was still up but ineffective.  I usually had to
reboot the FR before I could re-establish connection when this
happened.
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Re: angstrom in toolchain

2009-01-12 Thread Graeme Gregory
Shaz wrote:
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 7:50 PM, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
> mailto:mic...@openmoko.org>> wrote:
>
> That's the Angstrom branding we inherit by relying on OpenEmbedded
> and its
> flagship distro.
>
>
> This means that due to dependence on openembedded and Angstrom being
> the major contributor to OE.
>
> Is there some contribution made directly to openMoko by Angstrom?
>  
Yes, Openmoko started off just being Ångström by another name. It has
slightly degressed since then but is still fundamentally 95% shared with
Ångström.

Graeme


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Re: GPRS unreliable: long lasting connection fail

2009-01-12 Thread Niccolo Rigacci
On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 08:13:56AM +, Tom Yates wrote:
>
> i use 2008.12 with gsm0710uxd, and i've had fairly long travelling GPRS  
> calls (15-20 minutes on the train back from london).

Please tell me: with gsm0710uxd the connection is still done by 
pppd/chat?

> since i have an  
> all-you-can-eat GPRS plan, i'd happily try this for myself and give you  
> feedback.  how long is "long-lasting", for you?

I hope to last 12 hours or so, because I do GPS live tracking 
with position upload to the internet every 5/10 seconds.

But the real problem is that if the connection fails, it will not 
restart again. I can add a cronjob to test connection and restart 
it, but I know that pppd should manage the fault.

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Re: GPRS unreliable: long lasting connection fail

2009-01-12 Thread Tom Yates
On Mon, 12 Jan 2009, Niccolo Rigacci wrote:

> I tried Om2007.2 and Om2008.12 without GPS multiplexing: I
> just stop gsmd (2007.2) or qpe (2008.12) before starting pppd and
> chat, but the problem is still there.
>
> - Can gsm0710muxd (GSM multiplexer) help in some way?
>
> - Does GPRS require pppd or are there different software
>  solutions? Don't know FSO, etc...
>
> What are other experiences with long-lasting GPRS calls?

i use 2008.12 with gsm0710uxd, and i've had fairly long travelling GPRS 
calls (15-20 minutes on the train back from london).  since i have an 
all-you-can-eat GPRS plan, i'd happily try this for myself and give you 
feedback.  how long is "long-lasting", for you?


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which SHR image

2009-01-12 Thread Fernando Martins
I would like to try SHR but there are plenty of images in SHR image 
folder. Which files should I get for flashing?

Regards,
Fernando

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Re: Problem in fso-frameworkd

2009-01-12 Thread Michele Renda
On 12/01/2009 01:06, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote:
> The moment mdbus exits the resource will released again. You need to
> have a program running that can keep the resource requested.
>
Thank you for the info. I was thinking that frameworkd was ignoring how 
it was called (if the main program exit or not).

Thank you
Michele Renda


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