Re: GPRS internet connection applet

2008-08-07 Thread Kristian 'kriss' Mueller
hi Niccolo

Am Mittwoch, den 06.08.2008, 10:47 +0200 schrieb Niccolo Rigacci:
 I just wondering if it exists an applet to start/stop the GPRS 
 ppp connection (I use OM2007.2).

Not officially - though SettingsGUI has a panel for GPRS. 

 Following the guidelines of this page 
 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GPRS
 I wrote a little PythonGTK applet, that is working well.

 The applet is callet PyPPP, screenshot and download here:
 http://www.rigacci.org/wiki/doku.php/doc/appunti/hardware/freerunner#connessione_internet_via_gprs
  

Looks nice! 

Have a look at SettingsGUI if you like - I wrote some code there to
interpret and generate pppd/peers files. It's also pygtk.


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Re: GPRS for FSO Milestone 2

2008-08-03 Thread Kristian 'kriss' Mueller
Hi Chris, Mokos

Am Samstag, den 02.08.2008, 14:13 -0700 schrieb C R McClenaghan:
 I've been able to hack together the necessary ppp scripts to get GPRS
  working on FSO Milestone 2 release. 

There is a way to use the GPRS panel of SettingsGUI with FSO. 
You can find a guide on how to use it in the wiki:
 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/SettingsGUI#FSO_and_ASU_Users

Screenshot:
 http://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/fbc21f56b73a22da77c9b3a69b4c37b7.png


Please do not use it unless you know what you are doing.
Anyway, I plan to include native FSO GPRS support in SettingsGUI soon.


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RE: Request for help: Would like community applications to show anddiscuss at LinuxWorld

2008-07-29 Thread Kristian 'kriss' Mueller
Am Dienstag, den 29.07.2008, 08:23 +0200 schrieb Marcus Bauer:
   The opposite is true. FSO forces you into ASU. It basically makes
 all
   work that has been put into OM2007.2 useless.
   
   Please stop telling these lies.
  
  Marcus, did I miss the irony here, or do you really believe this?
 [..]
 FSO is the brainchild of Dr. Michael Lauer, fresh from the university's
 ivory tower but lacking any industry experience. It is reinventing the
 wheel and drains lots of ressources that are needed elsewhere inside of
 Openmoko. It combines plenty of things out of which one is a new PIM API
 based on dbus. This idea alone is worth to be mentioned every day for a
 year on the dailyWTF website.

Well, this is an interesting point. I've had the same doubt with DBUS. 
But event driven programming is exactly what is needed for a battery
driven device. IMHO


 It is not about GTK or qt or ETK. It is about getting a working platform
 out to users and developers. OM2007.2 was mostly there. 

You are right. 

But said that, there is nothing we can do about the decision taken now.
And it was taken rather now than even later, because the developers knew
they could do better.


 It reminds me to
 a joke:
 
 Two fools try to escape from a lunatics hospital. There are 100
 walls to climb over and so they start: 10, 20, 50, 90, 99. In
 that moment says the one to the other: 'Lets go back and do the
 last wall tomorrow'.

Nice analogy. But FSO is not going back - but pauses to build a bigger
ladder. 

Even if the idea behind FSO is to build everything from scratch - we can
still take all we've got with 2007.2 and just use it in FSO until the
newer, better approach is usable. (which will be in 2 or 3 months - if I
read the roadmap right)

I wasn't reading this list for months, but I find it a pity that guys
like you where ignored when designing FSO. IMHO GTK and the
Openmoko-GTK-theme have to be usable in FSO - and there has to be
support for the older daemons until the new ones are usable and
implemented in all apps.


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Re: Request for help: Would like community applications to show and discuss at LinuxWorld

2008-07-29 Thread Kristian 'kriss' Mueller
Hi Michael

Am Mittwoch, den 23.07.2008, 09:49 -0700 schrieb Michael Shiloh:
 [...]
 At Linuxworld in two weeks I will have perhaps half a dozen phones at 
 our two booths, and I would love to showcase on each of these one or 
 more of your creations.

 * Any interesting FR-to-FR apps?
 * In case we have poor connectivity, apps that don't require GSM/GPRS
 * In case we have poor Wifi, apps that don't require Wifi

I can prepare a version of PyPenNotes that shares a whiteboard using
transmission of handwriting via Bluetooth/Wlan. (The App was part of my
master thesis and will be released anyway)

Which image are you using?
Tell me a deadline.


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Re: wifi

2008-07-28 Thread Kristian 'kriss' Mueller
  I've spent a great deal of time messing with WIFI also.  Once I get  
  some
  more experience with the OM platform, I might contribute to
  building a gui network manager.

 I really believe that a lot of the common system administration-type  
 tasks - such as setting up WLAN, setting up GPRS routing, etc. - can  
 and should be wrapped up in very easy-to-write tools with a GUI.  For  
 example, the SettingsGUI progress was awesome, maybe because its  
 python-based, and perhaps we all should be looking to extend this app  
 to include the more detailed admin procedures?

Thanks Jay!

Actually I am integrating mofi panel after John Beaven contected me:
 http://projects.openmoko.org/projects/mofi/

SettingsGUI still has to be ported to GTA02 and the FSO image. This is
what I'll be doing here during the next days.

If anyone wants to try it out and give feedback, see the SVN repository
at our neo1973-germany trac:
 http://neo1973-germany.de/wiki/SettingsGUI


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RE: Request for help: Would like community applications to show anddiscuss at LinuxWorld

2008-07-28 Thread Kristian 'kriss' Mueller
Am Dienstag, den 29.07.2008, 00:46 +0200 schrieb Marcus Bauer:
 On Mon, 2008-07-28 at 15:33 -0700, steve wrote:
  Of course!!! Every toolkit  is allowed.
  
  The whole point about FSO is to free people to pick their toolkit!
 
 The opposite is true. FSO forces you into ASU. It basically makes all
 work that has been put into OM2007.2 useless.
 
 Please stop telling these lies.

Marcus, did I miss the irony here, or do you really believe this? 

Why should anyone at Openmoko want to keep out other frameworks, 
after even putting qtopia to X11?

Anyway, GTK applications are working just fine with the FSO image.


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Re: Request for help: Would like community applications to show and discuss at LinuxWorld

2008-07-28 Thread Kristian 'kriss' Mueller
Hi Michele

Am Mittwoch, den 23.07.2008, 18:59 +0200 schrieb Michele Renda:
 I am just finishing my first application for the Freerunner. It is
 python written and use gtk.

Nice decision! ;-)

If you want to use GTK in an FSO or ASU image you may want to 
install the  Openmoko GTK theme first. 

I've just written a step by step guide for that. See:
 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/FSO#GTK


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Re: Video Playback virtually impossible on Neo Freerunner? (Re: Video of Qt 4.4 on Neo1973: brings iPhone like graphics)

2008-04-27 Thread Kristian 'kriss' Mueller
Hi Christoph

Am Donnerstag, den 24.04.2008, 11:19 +0200 schrieb Christoph Witzany:
 As I understood Video playback will be virtually impossible on the 
 freerunner, at least from the sd card (which is the only sensible 
 location to store videos on the neo ftm).

I did some testing on that with GTA01.


 Please correct me if I misunderstood.

Even with GTA01 it was possible - though the tests I made there are not
valid for GTA02 (don't have one yet).

What I found out with mplayer is:

1) H.264 will take to much time to decompress (even at low bitrates)
2) SDL will be the fastest way to output without HW acceleration
3) using H.263 (as Youtube does) I could get the best 
   compression/bitrate/speed ratio
4) using 320x240 and scale to 640x480 (480x640) is doable

Some of those findings are documented at the buttom of
http://wiki.openmoko.org/index.php?title=Video_Player 


 If I interpreted Carsten right 640x480 video will 
 display at 5-10 fps at best, right?

Actually with GTA01 I've had 13 fps in fullscreen mode (320x240 -
480x640) which looked really okay and was viewable.

A 640x480 H.263 though with reasonable bitrate took to much cpu-power to
decode.

Anyway, with GTA02 you should take a try - it seems doable in SW even
without 2D acceleration, as it just has more cpu power. - try to start
with:

mencoder -quiet -ofps 13 -vf scale -zoom -xy 352 -af channels=1:0:0:1:0
\
-oac lavc -ovc lavc -lavcopts \
acodec=mp3:vcodec=h263p:autoaspect=1:vbitrate=200:abitrate=32 \
-o outfile infile

mplayer -autosync 30 -vf scale -zoom -xy 640 -vf rotate=1 -sws 0
-nodouble \
-vo sdl -fs -framedrop tagetfile


Greetings from Berlin

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Re: ssh over bluetooth

2008-04-12 Thread Kristian 'kriss' Mueller
Hey Pietro

Am Samstag, den 12.04.2008, 14:25 +0200 schrieb Pietro m0nt0
Montorfano:
 [..] ssh session (or something similar) over bluetooth. So is it
  possible to use the neo like that? 

Yes, that's doable. You can use Personal Area Networking (PAN) with the
pand app in bluez.

If you like you can use the latest SettingsGUI Version to scan for
Bluetooth Peers and start a PAN connection to one of them.

I've written an article about the latest SettingsGUI release, and got
SSH and even IP Forwarding working to my Neo. See:

http://www.mput.de/blog/?p=20


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