Where to purchase a new screen?

[Nick Van Fossen]

I need to get a new screen for my Freerunner.  Anyone know where to purchase 
one?  I tried contacting a few of the local distributors here in North America, 
but after a week I haven't even received an e-mail reply.  

-Nick
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[2008.12] Yet more on the wrench, sorry

[Nick Van Fossen]

So I've been frustrated over the last few months just trying to get a working 
terminal keyboard under 2008.12.  I see the distro as borderline useless 
without this, and as a side point I'm completely baffled by the choice of 
making the wrench so difficult to get working when it worked fine in 2008.9.  

So right now I have a working qwerty button and a wrench icon that opens but 
none of the sub-menus contain anything.  I believe all I need to do now is get 
the keyboard selector menu within the wrench to let me select the default 
keyboard instead of None, and then I set QT to not export its keyboard and I 
should be good.  

My problem though is I can't seem to figure out where the hell the menu 
information for the wrench tool is located.  I have been looking in the e.cfg 
and related files and the freerunner.edc file within the asu theme, and the 
files within the illume theme, but I see no mention of the keyboard menu.  Also 
the preconfigured binaries on the enlightenment.cfg wiki page just bring me to 
a blank white screen, and when I try to use eet to view the source of the e.cfg 
file included it just says it cannot be opened for reading, so I'm thinking the 
files are just corrupt.  

Can anyone give me a pointer on where the wrench menu info is even stored?

Thanks,
Nick

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[Om2008.12] Adding swap space can stop app crashes

[Nick Van Fossen]

Just as a helpful note, adding swap space seems to help against application 
crashes.  I've always had issues with 
tangoGPS and the various webbrower apps crashing.  Looking into it a little 
more I notice that this was occurring when the 
puny 128MB of memory was getting filled up.  So, I added a swap file onto my 
microSD card and have had these problems 
practically clear up.  Anyone else had any similar experiences?  If this is a 
true fix this should probably go onto the wiki.  

So, I'm a bit lazy so instead of going through the trouble of adding a swap 
partition, I just created a swap file.  My microSD 
card is mounted at /media/nickcard so change the below accordingly.  I set mine 
up for 1GB, but that seems like way 
overkill, so here is a quick command list to create a 1/2GB swap.  

Create the swap file on the mounted microSD card (count is the number of 
megabytes, change accordingly):
dd if=/dev/zero of=/media/nickcard/swapfile.img bs=1024k count=512

Format the swap file:
mkswap /media/nickcard/swapfile.img

Add the swap file to your running system:
swapon /media/nickcard/swapfile.img

use "free -m" to verify that the swap is going

Now like I said I am lazy, so I didn't want to bother remembering how fstab 
worked so that it would auto-start that way, 
so I just added that last command to the startup.  I read that you would just 
add 
"/media/nickcard/swapfile.img none swap sw 0 0" to /etc/fstab but don't sue me 
if that part don't work.  :)

-Nick

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RE: [2008.12] Anyone get iptables working?

[Nick Van Fossen]

Ahh dang I should have checked my e-mail again earlier.  I followed Timo's 
suggestion to rebuild from source, and that worked like a charm.  But your fix 
would have saved me a bit of time.  If anyone wants an ipk of iptables v1.4.2 
let me know :)

Thanks everyone

-Nick

> Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 18:15:48 -0500
> From: freerun...@newkirk.us
> To: community@lists.openmoko.org
> CC: stix...@hotmail.com
> Subject: RE: [2008.12] Anyone get iptables working?
> 
> Try "opkg remove iptables" followed by "opkg install
> http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/testing/armv4t/iptables_1.3.8-r4_armv4t.opk";
> 
> ;)
> 
> j
> 
> On Thu, 8 Jan 2009 13:47:56 -0800, Nick Van Fossen 
> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >> From: timo.lindf...@iki.fi
> >> To: stix...@hotmail.com
> >> CC: community@lists.openmoko.org; timo.lindf...@iki.fi
> >> Subject: Re: [2008.12] Anyone get iptables working?
> >> Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 23:23:00 +0200
> >> 
> >> Nick Van Fossen  writes:
> >> > Program received signal SIGILL, Illegal instruction.
> >> > 0x9834 in ?? ()
> >> > (gdb) backtrace
> >> > #0  0x9834 in ?? ()
> >> > Cannot access memory at address 0x2
> >> > (gdb) x/5i $pc
> >> > 0x9834 <__strtoull_internal+1088>:   teqeq   pc, r5, asr r6
> >> 
> >> Very odd. teq should be perfectly legal instructions that is available
> >> on all architecture versions and does not involve exceptions.
> >> 
> >> > 0x9838 <__strtoull_internal+1092>:   cfstrsnemvf4, [r0], 
> >> > #-316
> >> 
> >> What is this? Google finds this in a list about "Cirrus Maverick
> >> co-processor support for GCC".
> >> 
> >>"the following are patches for gas, ld, opcodes, and bfd-- for the
> >> Cirrus DSP arm copprocessor (arm9e)."
> >> 
> >>"/* Cirrus DSP instructions.  */"
> >> 
> >> "+   {"cfstrs",0x0c000400, NULL,   NULL,  
> > ARM_EXT_MAVERIK, do_c_ldst_1},"
> >> 
> >> -- http://sources.redhat.com/ml/binutils/2001-10/msg00134.html
> >> 
> >> Where did you get these? :-) Please run
> >> 
> >> 1) gdb --args iptables -v -A POSTROUTING -t nat -j MASQUERADE -s
> > 192.168.0.0/24
> >> 2) run
> >> 3) shell cat /proc/`pidof iptables`/maps
> >> 
> >> so that we see what library comes with this __strtoull_internal
> >> implementation.
> > 
> > Like I said, I got iptables and iptables-utils from angstrom by adding
> the
> > angstrom repo using instructions at
> > http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Repositories by creating the
> > /etc/opkg/angstrom-feed.conf file per the 2008.8 instructions
> > near the top.  Then I used commands "opkg update" followed by "opkg
> > install iptables iptables-utils".  This also 
> > updated the libgcc1 package, since iptables required a newer version than
> > the openmoko repo contained.  (this includes the libgcc_s.so.1 file
> > mentioned below)
> > 
> > -Nick
> > 
> > r...@om-gta02:/etc/opkg# gdb --args iptables -v -A POSTROUTING -t nat -j
> > MASQUERADE -s 192.168.0.0/24
> > GNU gdb 6.8
> > Copyright (C) 2008 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
> > License GPLv3+: GNU GPL version 3 or later
> > <http://gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html>
> > This is free software: you are free to change and redistribute it.
> > There is NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by law.  Type "show
> copying"
> > and "show warranty" for details.
> > This GDB was configured as "arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi"...
> > (no debugging symbols found)
> > (gdb) run
> > Starting program: /usr/sbin/iptables -v -A POSTROUTING -t nat -j
> > MASQUERADE -s 192.168.0.0/24
> > (no debugging symbols found)
> > (no debugging symbols found)
> > (no debugging symbols found)
> > 
> > Program received signal SIGILL, Illegal instruction.
> > 0x9834 in ?? ()
> > (gdb) shell cat /proc/`pidof iptables`/maps
> > 8000-00021000 r-xp  1f:06 14560  /usr/sbin/iptables
> > 00028000-0002b000 rw-p 00018000 1f:06 14560  /usr/sbin/iptables
> > 0002b000-0004c000 rwxp 0002b000 00:00 0  [heap]
> > 4000-4001c000 r-xp  1f:06 582/lib/ld-2.6.1.so
> > 4002-40022000 rw-p 4002 00:00 0 
> > 40023000-40025000 rw-p 0001b000 1f:06 582/lib/ld-2.6.1.so
> > 40025000-400

RE: [2008.12] Anyone get iptables working?

[Nick Van Fossen]

Thanks again, I'll give that a try!

-Nick

> From: timo.lindf...@iki.fi
> To: stix...@hotmail.com
> CC: timo.lindf...@iki.fi; community@lists.openmoko.org
> Subject: Re: [2008.12] Anyone get iptables working?
> Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 00:00:09 +0200
> 
> Nick Van Fossen  writes:
> > 8000-00021000 r-xp  1f:06 14560  /usr/sbin/iptables
> 
> Ok so the address 0x9838 is indeed inside the iptables binary which
> thus has been compiled for wrong instruction set. Go build it for
> armv4 or get a distro that has it prebuilt :-)
> 
> 
> 

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RE: [2008.12] Anyone get iptables working?

[Nick Van Fossen]

> From: timo.lindf...@iki.fi
> To: stix...@hotmail.com
> CC: community@lists.openmoko.org; timo.lindf...@iki.fi
> Subject: Re: [2008.12] Anyone get iptables working?
> Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 23:23:00 +0200
> 
> Nick Van Fossen  writes:
> > Program received signal SIGILL, Illegal instruction.
> > 0x9834 in ?? ()
> > (gdb) backtrace
> > #0  0x9834 in ?? ()
> > Cannot access memory at address 0x2
> > (gdb) x/5i $pc
> > 0x9834 <__strtoull_internal+1088>:  teqeq   pc, r5, asr r6
> 
> Very odd. teq should be perfectly legal instructions that is available
> on all architecture versions and does not involve exceptions.
> 
> > 0x9838 <__strtoull_internal+1092>:  cfstrsnemvf4, [r0], #-316
> 
> What is this? Google finds this in a list about "Cirrus Maverick
> co-processor support for GCC".
> 
>"the following are patches for gas, ld, opcodes, and bfd-- for the
> Cirrus DSP arm copprocessor (arm9e)."
> 
>"/* Cirrus DSP instructions.  */"
> 
> "+   {"cfstrs",0x0c000400, NULL,   NULL,   ARM_EXT_MAVERIK, 
> do_c_ldst_1},"
> 
> -- http://sources.redhat.com/ml/binutils/2001-10/msg00134.html
> 
> Where did you get these? :-) Please run
> 
> 1) gdb --args iptables -v -A POSTROUTING -t nat -j MASQUERADE -s 
> 192.168.0.0/24
> 2) run
> 3) shell cat /proc/`pidof iptables`/maps
> 
> so that we see what library comes with this __strtoull_internal
> implementation.

Like I said, I got iptables and iptables-utils from angstrom by adding the 
angstrom repo using instructions at
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Repositories by creating the 
/etc/opkg/angstrom-feed.conf file per the 2008.8 instructions
near the top.  Then I used commands "opkg update" followed by "opkg install 
iptables iptables-utils".  This also 
updated the libgcc1 package, since iptables required a newer version than the 
openmoko repo contained.  (this includes the libgcc_s.so.1 file mentioned below)

-Nick

r...@om-gta02:/etc/opkg# gdb --args iptables -v -A POSTROUTING -t nat -j 
MASQUERADE -s 192.168.0.0/24
GNU gdb 6.8
Copyright (C) 2008 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
License GPLv3+: GNU GPL version 3 or later <http://gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html>
This is free software: you are free to change and redistribute it.
There is NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by law.  Type "show copying"
and "show warranty" for details.
This GDB was configured as "arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi"...
(no debugging symbols found)
(gdb) run
Starting program: /usr/sbin/iptables -v -A POSTROUTING -t nat -j MASQUERADE -s 
192.168.0.0/24
(no debugging symbols found)
(no debugging symbols found)
(no debugging symbols found)

Program received signal SIGILL, Illegal instruction.
0x9834 in ?? ()
(gdb) shell cat /proc/`pidof iptables`/maps
8000-00021000 r-xp  1f:06 14560  /usr/sbin/iptables
00028000-0002b000 rw-p 00018000 1f:06 14560  /usr/sbin/iptables
0002b000-0004c000 rwxp 0002b000 00:00 0  [heap]
4000-4001c000 r-xp  1f:06 582/lib/ld-2.6.1.so
4002-40022000 rw-p 4002 00:00 0 
40023000-40025000 rw-p 0001b000 1f:06 582/lib/ld-2.6.1.so
40025000-4002f000 r-xp  1f:06 14557  /lib/libgcc_s.so.1
4002f000-40036000 ---p a000 1f:06 14557  /lib/libgcc_s.so.1
40036000-40037000 rw-p 9000 1f:06 14557  /lib/libgcc_s.so.1
40037000-40148000 r-xp  1f:06 588/lib/libc-2.6.1.so
40148000-4015 ---p 00111000 1f:06 588/lib/libc-2.6.1.so
4015-40151000 r--p 00111000 1f:06 588/lib/libc-2.6.1.so
40151000-40153000 rw-p 00112000 1f:06 588/lib/libc-2.6.1.so
40153000-40156000 rw-p 40153000 00:00 0 
be85-be865000 rwxp befeb000 00:00 0  [stack]
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[2008.12] Anyone get iptables working?

[Nick Van Fossen]

>>Which instruction is it? Use the following to find out
>>
>>1) gdb --args iptables -v -A POSTROUTING -t nat -j MASQUERADE -s 
>>192.168.0.0/24
>>2) run
>>3) backtrace
>>4) x/5i $pc
>>5) info register

>>Better Cc: me on your reply since I might not notice your reply on the
>>mailing list due to heavy traffic :-)

---

Thanks for the response.  Below is the output.  

-Nick

r...@om-gta02:~# gdb --args iptables -v -A POSTROUTING -t nat -j MASQUERADE -s 1
92.168.0.0/24
GNU gdb 6.8
Copyright (C) 2008 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
License GPLv3+: GNU GPL version 3 or later 
This is free software: you are free to change and redistribute it.
There is NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by law.  Type "show copying"
and "show warranty" for details.
This GDB was configured as "arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi"...
(no debugging symbols found)
(gdb) run
Starting program: /usr/sbin/iptables -v -A POSTROUTING -t nat -j MASQUERADE -s 
192.168.0.0/24
(no debugging symbols found)
(no debugging symbols found)
(no debugging symbols found)

Program received signal SIGILL, Illegal instruction.
0x9834 in ?? ()
(gdb) backtrace
#0  0x9834 in ?? ()
Cannot access memory at address 0x2
(gdb) x/5i $pc
0x9834 <__strtoull_internal+1088>:  teqeq   pc, r5, asr r6
0x9838 <__strtoull_internal+1092>:  cfstrsnemvf4, [r0], #-316
0x983c <__strtoull_internal+1096>:  ldcne   6, cr2, [r12]
0x9840 <__strtoull_internal+1100>:  ldrtmi  r3, [r4], r12, lsl #8
0x9844 <__strtoull_internal+1104>:  blcc0x3108d8
(gdb) info register
r0 0x2b048  176200
r1 0x2895c  166236
r2 0x8002   2147483650
r3 0x19084  102532
r4 0x2a1f8  172536
r5 0x2876c  165740
r6 0x2  2
r7 0x1f0496
r8 0x2a1e4  172516
r9 0x2b048  176200
r100x1f 31
r110x2  2
r120x10 16
sp 0xbe866ab8   0xbe866ab8
lr 0x67 103
pc 0x9834   0x9834 <__strtoull_internal+1088>
fps0x100100016781312
cpsr   0x4010   1073741840
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[2008.12] Anyone get iptables working?

[Nick Van Fossen]

So, with 2008.9 I was using iptables to tether my ubuntu laptop to my 
freerunner's gprs connection.  
But as of 2008.12 I'm getting an "Illegal instruction" error each time I run 
the iptables command.  

Commands I run on the freerunner to enable tethering after gprs connection:
iptables -v -A POSTROUTING -t nat -j MASQUERADE -s 192.168.0.0/24
sysctl -w net.ipv4.ip_forward=1

I've noticed that most but not all iptables commands generate the same "Illegal 
instruction" error as well.  
Has anyone got around this yet?

I've installed iptables, iptables-utils, and upgraded libgcc1 to v4.2.4-r5.1 
from the angstrom repository.  

-Nick

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Fun using power button LEDs as battery indicator

[Nick Van Fossen]

Some of you probably knew this, but I just found out that the Freerunner 
actually has a couple LEDs under the power button, but they don't seem to be 
used yet in 2008.9 stable.  So, I thought it would be helpful to use them as an 
external battery power indicator.  If you are like me, I let my phone screen go 
black after 60 seconds and go to suspend by button press only, so this is also 
helpful to tell if the Freerunner is in suspend or powered on with the screen 
off.  

Power button blue for high battery, purple for medium, and orange for low.  

Perl script and simple instructions:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/FreeRunner/Buttons_and_LEDs#Led_Power_Status_Perl_Script

By the way, suspend mode and the phone itself are working great for me after 
figuring out that pulseaudio was causing major problems.  Don't install the 
mediaplayer, and if you did...  get rid of pulseaudio and the phone starts 
working pretty good.  

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RE: openvpn?

[Nick Van Fossen]

Thanks a lot!  My problem was with the openssl dependencies, which are resolved 
by using the openssl-dev package you referenced.  I was now able to create an 
.ipk package and it works flawlessly with 2008.8.  Now I can actually use my 
phone at work to connect to other work machines through our wifi network...  
all the iPhone users here are going to drool now.  

-Nick


> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: community@lists.openmoko.org
> Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 20:54:04 -0400
> Subject: Re: openvpn?
> 
> What are you having trouble with?  I was able to
> cross-compile
> http://openvpn.net/release/openvpn-2.1_rc9.tar.gz on the
> first attempt with ".
> /usr/local/openmoko/arm/setup-env;./configure
> --host=arm-angstrom-linux;make" after easing
> http://people.openmoko.org/~zecke/om2008.8-dev/armv4t/openssl-dev_0.9.7g-r7_armv4t.opk
> into
> /usr/local/openmoko/arm/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/usr/lib. 
> I've not tested it yet.
> 
> j
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Nick Van Fossen 
> To: 
> Subject: openvpn?
> Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 14:42:49 -0700
> 
>> I'm trying to compile openvpn for my FreeRunner, which is
>> running 2008.8, but so far I haven't been successful.  Has
>> anyone else tried to do this yet?  If so I'd appreciate
>> any info on how you were able to.  
>> 
>> -Nick
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openvpn?

[Nick Van Fossen]

I'm trying to compile openvpn for my FreeRunner, which is running 2008.8, but 
so far I haven't been successful.  Has anyone else tried to do this yet?  If so 
I'd appreciate any info on how you were able to.  

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RE: Om2008.8 comments and questions

[Nick Van Fossen]

I can't speak for the Openmoko developers, but it is fairly well known that the 
openmoko software is a work in progress with things breaking and being fixed 
very often.  I believe most people who have the Neo phones have them to be part 
of something new that hasn't been done before on a phone, test and play with 
something exciting yet still unfinished, and possibly even contribute to making 
the phone & software even better.  These people also understand that the 
software is a work in progress, and that nothing at this stage in the game is 
guaranteed not to break.  

If your needs actually are a solid and easy phone, with few hiccups, and good 
linux compatibility...  I'm guessing you purchased about a year too early in 
its development.  Remember that opensource development != proprietary 
development, as opensource software is often available to users/developers 
years in advance of it being stable enough to do the work expected of the final 
version... where proprietary software (like the iPhone you mention) is hidden 
from users for years during the stage of development openmoko is currently.  

This is like trying to use the iPhone a year before it was released to the 
public.  It would have been exciting, but few things would have worked 
perfectly, with regressions and inconsistencies between builds just the same.  

Be excited you are part of something new, but to expect solid performance today 
is a bit premature.  I can't wait for mine to arrive next week, working 
features be damned! :)

-Nick



> Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 13:55:39 -0400
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: community@lists.openmoko.org
> Subject: Om2008.8 comments and questions
> 
> Hi Openmoko cummunity (and developmen team),
> 
> I'm a little bit concerned about how priorities are set and handled and would 
> like to read your opinion.
> 
> 2 weeks ago I got my Neo Freerunner with Om2007. I was able to get it up and 
> running, even importing my contacts from my old phone wasn't really an issue. 
> WiFi worked ok too.
> 
> Then I flashed my phone with Om2008.8.
> 
> Call me oldfashioned, but I'm one of the guys who wants to use his phone for 
> the 
> reason it was actually built in the first place: making phone calls.
> I expect only 3 things from a phone (which are the most basic things a phone 
> should be able to accomplish):
> 
> 1) making and receiving calls
> 2) managing contacts
> 3) alarm function
> 
> I will go in more detail regarding these 3 points in a moment. I know that 
> the 
> phone has overwhelming features and I would like to see them in action, but 
> first I should be able to use it as a phone. I don't care about GPS, games or 
> a 
> graphical installer right now.
> 
> ad 2) I was not able to migrate my phonebook from om2007 to om2008. I had a 
> backup from my home dir and I had the .vcf files on my sd card. Well, 
> entering 
> my 500 contacts is not an option. The keyboard is more or less useless, since 
> it 
> takes at least 'number of character' times 2 seconds to enter a word, which 
> cannot be guessed by the keyboard 'logic'.
> What about sending contacts via Bluetooth? What about importing vcf files?
> 
> ad 3) this does not work either. sometimes I can see an alarm icon, but no 
> alarm 
> tone. hmmm, not much of an alarm then.
> 
> These are basic functions which do not work and people are talking about 
> GTA03, 
> cameras, GPS mapping functions.
> I don't get it. First of all the phone should be able to do at least things 
> that 
> a 50$ phone can do.
> 
> I bought the openmoko phone, because I'm using Linux and I thought that it 
> would 
> be easier to sync contact and calendar data with my workstation.
> I was definitely wrong. The data is not even compatible between Om releases.
> Furthermore it seems to me that a propriatary system is developed which makes 
> it 
> even harder to communicate with standard Linux distros.
> In that case I could have bought the iPhone as well. At least that phone 
> works.
> 
> As long as the priorities are not focused on basic features as I described 
> above, this phone will not be useable for quite a while.
> 
> Regards,
>Helmut
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Any opinions on purchasing from Koolu?

[Nick Van Fossen]

I've been trying to purchase a new 850 Freerunner for almost 2 weeks now, but 
as you already know the openmoko online store still says they are to arrive on 
July 25th...  The only two US distributors are Koolu, and gp2xstore.com.  
Gp2xstore.com only lists the Neo 1973 - not freerunner, and has been ignoring 
my e-mails for a week and a half, so I guess my only choice is Koolu.  

But, Koolu looks like they want to go a different direction with their phones 
than Openmoko does by installing Android, Google Apps, and some other goodies 
that I have no interest in.  I've been hesitant to purchase from them because 
of this, but I'm wondering if anyone else has purchased an 850 Freerunner from 
Koolu and how that went?  Did you get your phone?  Have any problems with 
Koolu?  Do you have any problems installing any of the openmoko builds/stacks?  

Thanks!
-Nick
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