Re: debian/fso on freerunner

2010-01-20 Thread Patryk Benderz
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> Tell me please, I understand that debian lags behind the progress? Old
> frameworkd etc, the old kernel without the new drivers for glamo, just zhone
> updated ... Even I look at leading figures debian pass programs shr)))  Hope
> dies last)))
I think QtMoko is based on Debian and works really good. But i might be
wrong.

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[Community Updates] 2010-01-14 released

2010-01-15 Thread Patryk Benderz
Hello everybody,
Recent Community Update is out. Take a look at "News" link in
"Community" box on wiki pages to read it.

For your convenience here is direct link:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates/2010-01-14

and contribute to the new draft at:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates/Draft_2010-01-28

Thanks to all contributors of this issue of CU:
* PaulWise
* Kichkasch
* Multi
* Baba melone
* Vanous
* Valos
* Bt4
* Linuxxr
* Deubeuliou

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Re: Happy New Year from FSO

2010-01-14 Thread Patryk Benderz
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> Let me also remind you that we have a PayPal account for donations,
> and
HI Mickey,
I was looking at 
> (1) http://www.ohloh.net/p/fso
but wasn't able to find PayPal account for FSO. Can you provide this
data? But don't get too excited, currently I need this for CU.
BTW, are you really only one person developing/rewriting FSO to Vala?

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Re: RPN Calculator application available

2010-01-14 Thread Patryk Benderz
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> Are you the contact for community updates?
partially yes, but I am not the only one. CU as it's name says are
written by many contributors (take a look on CU edit history if you want
details).
>  I plan to release new versions of this application and to develop
> others. I can point you to an RSS feed where I will post changes if
> that is a good way to work.
IMHO the best way would be to post RSS feed on this ML, so other CU
contributors could take advantage of it also.

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Re: RPN Calculator application available

2010-01-14 Thread Patryk Benderz
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> 0.3 is the latest and the best. I kept working on it after I posted to
> the list. Please tell me how you go with it.
No go at all. I am not testing it, just putting an entry in Community
Updates to let people who do not read ML, know about your app. If you
say 0.3 is better, than I'll put it to CU.

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Re: RPN Calculator application available

2010-01-14 Thread Patryk Benderz
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> Blog post (with links): http://glitch.tl/mkrpn.html
Hi Michael,
on your blog, there is a link to 0.3 version. I suppose this is testing?

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[Community Updates] 2009-12-31 released.

2009-12-31 Thread Patryk Benderz
Hello everybody,
recent Community Update is out and ready!
Take a look at:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates/current

and contribute to the new draft at:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates/Draft_2010-01-14

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Re: [Android] Android Cupcake V22 installer-image

2009-12-31 Thread Patryk Benderz
Dnia 2009-12-30, śro o godzinie 01:35 -0800, ghislain pisze:
> http://panicking.kicks-ass.org/blog/index.php Penguin Embedded  has created a
> new version of Android Cupcake. I've created an installer-image for it, it
> can be dowloaded here:  http://www.openmobile.nl/pages/downloads.php#av22
> Android-Cupcake-V22 . 
[cut]
Hi Ghislain,
does this installer includes FCSE patches from ARM ML, recently added by
Michael Trimarchi?

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Re: QtMoko v15

2009-12-31 Thread Patryk Benderz
Dnia 2009-12-17, czw o godzinie 02:20 -0800, ghislain pisze:
> I just created another installer-image, 
> http://www.openmobile.nl/pages/downloads.php#qtm15b QtMoko V15B  (so one can
> choose which is preferred), these are the changes:
> * Upgraded 'pkg-fso-keyring' to '2009.09.12'
> * gpsd installed
> * Working TangoGPS
> * Working Navit
> * Enabled GSM multiplexing
> * Added SMS-Receive bug-fix
Hi thanks for this installer. I had trouble with finding english version
of your page, thus I have a question. Does thia installer works only for
SD card , or do you provide .jffs images somewhere?

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Re: [H:1] New keyboard: t9brain

2009-12-31 Thread Patryk Benderz
Dnia 2009-12-10, czw o godzinie 12:49 -0500, Tony McKeehan pisze:
> Sorry, didn't realize that the mailing list handled it like that... 
> (resending)
> 
> 
> Screenshots from rev4 [1] [2]
> 
> I've made a new keyboard, built specifically for the Hackable:1 distro. 
[cut]
Hi Tony,
I am preparing CU release and was wondering if you considered renaming
your keyboard name from T9keyboard to TuxNINE ro Tux9 or similar? Please
let us know what name of your keyboard should we put into CU. In a
meantime i will put all three.

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Re: Re: [CU,Templates] DistributionBox template latest changes

2009-12-23 Thread Patryk Benderz
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> 1) if I look back, yes it was me mistake
> now I thing is better make Template:DistributionBox for each
> distribution. It will be better for use on wiki and It will be on all
> page actual
Lets discuss this in separate thread, and after new year begins, as this
will be long discussion I suppose, OK?

> 2) If you want history what distro's versions were working on what
> hardware, I thing is better start make new page on wiki call something
> like: History what distributions versions working on what hardware
> In this system if you wan this information, you must brows the wiki
> and remember how it's changing 
Will you create AND *maintain* such a wiki page? If you think you have
enough time to maintain another wiki page then you are welcome to do
it :), but maybe you could dedicate this free time of yours to take care
of many old and outdated wiki pages that need fixing?

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> 1) it about translating templates and using on localize page on wiki
> if you use sub-templates, it will be actual also on localize page
> which use translate Template:DistributionBox
I think templates should be universal, not translated. This can be done,
but after new year, OK?

> 2) if some distributions start work on new hardware, it thing it will
> be written like text on news
I do not understand, please explain.

> 3) I don't  know, I'm not programmer... I thing the history page of
> changing sub-templates can be use  automatically on page:
> History what distributions versions working on what hardware
I do not understand. But lets leave this history stuff for now.
 
> 4) On wiki: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Distributions
> In the Names of Distibutions you don't use number of version
And what is the question? Because i do not know if you think it is good
or bad?
Anyway, I'll try to explain according to my knowledge. First of all
there is no section called "Names of Distributions" on this wiki page,
so please be precise. I guess you are talking about "Overview" section?
If you are talking about "Hardware/Works" boxes in "Overview" section,
than I have to admit I didn't know that these templates are used
anywhere else besides "Community Updates". Now since I know that, it
changes my point of view. Those "Hardware/Works" boxes can't be used to
keep history anymore. But they fit nicely to reduce amount of work for
wiki editors (like us).
What I do not like, is their naming schemes. Now their names suggests
that these boxes shows, what software can run under some distro.
Additionally you need to keep naming scheme consistent with other
templates (do not use spaces). IMHO it need to be changed to reflect
their purpose. Example:

Template:Works on Android -> Template:AndroidSupportedHardware
Template:Works_on_Debian  -> Template:DebianSupportedHardware
Template:Works on Gentoo  -> Template:GentooSupportedHardware
...
Do you mind if I ask you to rename these templates according to these
examples?
In order to help you within this work, I will add these templates to
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Templates page, as they are not listed
there. Oops, I forgot to add Template:DistributonBox also, mea culpa.
Does everyone agree for this solution?

> 5) News can use Distributions box and under him write changes
> now is change in DistributonBox and it make this template useful only
> for news page
I assume you want to make separate Template:DistributonBox for each
distro? Lets discuss this in separate thread, and after new year begins,
as this will be long discussion I suppose, OK?

> I hope some of me ideas it will be useful.
> Kukide
Indeed, ideas were useful. Thanks

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Re: [CU,Templates] DistributionBox template latest changes

2009-12-22 Thread Patryk Benderz
Dnia 2009-12-22, wto o godzinie 10:57 -0500, Warren Baird pisze:
> I can't speak for Kukide - but I'd agree that the changes don't seem
> to make sense --- I like having a history available, and I don't think
> it makes sense to have to twiddle the templates everytime a new distro
> variant comes along.
Hi Warren, thank you for your answer. I will wail till tomorrow just to
be sure nobody feels otherwise. If not, i will revert Kukide's changes.

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Re: [CU,Templates] DistributionBox template latest changes

2009-12-22 Thread Patryk Benderz
Dnia 2009-12-09, śro o godzinie 19:45 +0100, Patryk Benderz pisze:
> Hi all,
> Recently wiki editor Kukide, changed DistributionBos template. It was on
[cut]
Tomorrow is a release date for next CU and it looks like nobody
(including author of the changes - Kukide) is interested in this topic.
May I assume Kukide has abandoned his project of changes in Templates
for DistributionBox ?

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Re: QtMoko v16

2009-12-21 Thread Patryk Benderz
Dnia 2009-12-21, pon o godzinie 14:38 +0100, Radek Polak pisze:
> Hi,
> new images of QtMoko are released! They can be downloaded from sourceforge as 
> usually [1].
[cut]
Thanks, nice Chrstmas gift ;)

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Re: Autonofix à Grenoble (France)

2009-12-13 Thread Patryk Benderz
Dnia 2009-12-11, pią o godzinie 22:19 +0100, swap38 pisze:
> Hi all,
> 
> Autonofix party this sunday (december 13) near Grenoble (France).
> For more details :
> http://openmoko-fr.org/blog/index.php?post/2009/12/11/Autonofix-party-%C3%A0-Grenoble
> 
> \Swap38
Please report such events a bit earlier so people can have more time to
react.

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[Community Updates] 2009-12-09 released

2009-12-11 Thread Patryk Benderz
Hello everybody,
Recent Community Update is out.
Take a look at:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates/2009-12-09

and contribute to the new draft at:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates/Draft_2009-12-23

Thanks to all contributors for buuilding this issue of CU.

P.S. If it is not welcome to send a copy to Shr-User ML, please let me
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Re: [H:1] New keyboard: t9brain

2009-12-11 Thread Patryk Benderz
Dnia 2009-12-10, czw o godzinie 19:20 -0600, Esteban Monge pisze:
> Why not TuxNINE? or Tux9?
sounds good for me ;)

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Re: [H:1] New Keyboard! t9brain

2009-12-10 Thread Patryk Benderz
Hi tony,
It would be wiser to start a new thread for this.

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Re: Navigation

2009-12-09 Thread Patryk Benderz
Dnia 2009-12-09, śro o godzinie 11:02 -0800, Mike Crash pisze:
> Hello everyone, I only want to inform you, that I am working on new
> navigation for the Freerunner, current name is MC Navi, but may change.
Great! Looks nice :) Right on time to todays CU release. Lets put it to
Community section until you release stable application.

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[CU,Templates] DistributionBox template latest changes

2009-12-09 Thread Patryk Benderz
Hi all,
Recently wiki editor Kukide, changed DistributionBos template. It was on
wiki also, thus i assume i can quote his email to me: 

> Hi, I change your templates
> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Template:DistributionBox and rewrite on
> all back-links. 
> I make some new templates for this page:
> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Distributions In the future if some
> distribution start work on new hardware, it will be easy change in
> template for this distribution and it will change on all places in
> wiki. :) 
> 
> And I thing in the future distributions will work on more hardware and
> it will be helpful split information about "other" device. This is a
> possible on this page: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Template:Works 
> 
> I hope it will be useful. 
> 
> Kukide

Today i started to add some entries to Community Updates. One of them
was SHR-Testing branch. I have 2 considerations about this:

1) It appeared, that after Kukide's modifications you have to add new
sub-template for each new distribution, describing hardware it works on.
In my opinion it is a flaw. Kukide kindly made template for SHR and few
other distros, but didn't make new one for SHR-Testing. This scenario
will repeat for future distributions and generates additional work for
wiki editors.

2) It also appeared, that using sub-templates we loose all history of
what distro's versions were working on what hardware.
Example: if you modify template for lets say QtMoko v123, by adding new
hardware (lets consider that QtMoko V123 works on PS3) it will appear in
all previous Community Updates, that all previous versions of QtMoko
starting from V1, V2,... also are working on PS3... which is not true.
This is a flaw also IMHO.

Conclusions: I think we should revert these changes and use old
DistributionBox template. Of course keeping in mind freedom in all
aspects I am asking all of you, what is your opinion (especially you
Kukide) before reverting those changes.

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Re: [Community Updates] 2009-11-25 released

2009-11-29 Thread Patryk Benderz
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> 
> what is the current staus of SHR-U? Can be used as daily distro? Are
> the problems fixed by now? I still have the version from September
> which rather works and try to avoid potential problems.

Your questions has been mostly answered on shr-user mailing list:
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[Community Updates] 2009-11-25 released

2009-11-27 Thread Patryk Benderz
Hello everybody, better late then never ;).
Recent Community Update is out.
Take a look at:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates/2009-11-25

and contribute to the new draft at:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates/Draft_2009-12-09

Thanks to all contributors:
Heinervdm
Rhk

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Re: [Community Updates] 2009-11-11 released!

2009-11-12 Thread Patryk Benderz
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> I had to change a small thing, because the summary of what's going on in the 
> SHR land wasn't from. I just forwarded the original message from Sebastian 
> Spaeth :)
my fault, thanks for fixing this


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[Community Updates] 2009-11-11 released!

2009-11-12 Thread Patryk Benderz
Hello everybody, recent Community Update is out!
Take a look at:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates/2009-11-11

and contribute to the new draft at:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates/Draft_2009-11-25

Thanks to all contributors:
Any Key
Zeusone
Toams
Sveinung
Jldominguez
Pieterc
Valos

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Re: org.freesmartphone.Device.Orientation

2009-11-12 Thread Patryk Benderz
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> Please take a look other dbus APIs. The general consensus these days is
> that enums are pretty much frowned upon, since
> a) dbus marshalling is adding overhead anyways, and
> b) string constants are way better to debug and use from command line
> interfaces.
OK, thanks for clarifying this out for me.


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Re: org.freesmartphone.Device.Orientation

2009-11-11 Thread Patryk Benderz
Dnia 2009-09-10, czw o godzinie 00:10 +0200, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
pisze:
> is now working in the first version. Here's an example output of mdbus -s -l 
> where I have (orientation status in brackets):
[cut]
Great job Mickey, but what about integer orientation codes which were
discussed previously? These are much easier to use, easier to compare
integer than "some long string".


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Re: Ideal screen rotation

2009-11-04 Thread Patryk Benderz
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> autorotation for the apps where that makes sense).  Alternatively - at
> least for e17 - an easily accessible gadget in the top shelf could
What about full screen appications? Maybe using AUX button is a
solution?


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Re: Community update 2009-10-28

2009-10-29 Thread Patryk Benderz
Thanks! But I would say there are lot of news this time ;) thanks to all
contributors.

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Re: New Version of Minimoko and additions

2009-10-29 Thread Patryk Benderz
Dnia 2009-10-23, pią o godzinie 20:30 +0200, Matthias Huber pisze:
> Good evening, Lists!
> 
> Today i released a new Version of Minimoko with Additions.
Hi Matthias,
tell me should this be considered as another distro? I mean, do you want
to put this into applications or distro section in CU?

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[Community Updates] 2009-10-14 released!

2009-10-15 Thread Patryk Benderz
Hello everybody, recent Community Update is out!
Take a look at:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates/2009-10-14

and contribute to the new draft at:
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Re: [fso based] Simplified mixer app

2009-10-13 Thread Patryk Benderz
Hi Al,
do you want me to add it to CU, or is it too early to show this app to
average user?

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Re: Launcher - v 0.37 Release UPDATED (inbuilt contacts, sms and phonelog)

2009-09-28 Thread Patryk Benderz
[cut]
>   This newer version is faster because it doesn't delete and re-sync all the
> contacts every time. The settings window lets you sync contacts if you've
> changed something from another program and need to get launcher up to date.
Hi c_c,
if this is a new version, could you at least provide version number in
subject? It is hard to track for new releases (to put them into CU) if
all happens in this topic and subject doesn't change.
Of course best way IMHO would be to start new post with each new
release, if this doesn't bother you too much.

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Re: 2.6.31 is out, where is my ultimate kernel?

2009-09-10 Thread Patryk Benderz
[cut]
> But yes, I'm also interested as a non-kernel person about hearing
> what's happening in that area. Could it go in the community updates?
You are more than welcome to add content :)
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Re: Litephone 0.1

2009-09-10 Thread Patryk Benderz
Dnia 2009-09-09, śro o godzinie 21:37 +0200, Christof Musik pisze:
> Hello
> 
> Today I'm pleased to announce Litephone 0.1. Since the last version
> released by Michal I've done some work and improved the whole code.
Great to hear this. I like Litephone much mores than Paroli (sorry
Angus ;) )

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Re: QtMoko images V9

2009-09-10 Thread Patryk Benderz
Dnia 2009-09-09, śro o godzinie 22:26 +0200, Radek Polak pisze:
> Hi all,
> i have just uploaded new QtMoko debian images. You can download as
Great, thanks! One question about your version numbering. As it is not
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version, and even are stable?

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Re: Device Orientation API

2009-09-10 Thread Patryk Benderz
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> Basically, it's sending you a string whenever the orientation changes. Valid 
> substrings contain "portrait", "landscape", "faceup", "facedown".
IMHO using integers where (x,y,z) are -1,0 or 1, would be better idea.
This way you could make mathematical operations on this. Or use a
conditions like: (x=1,y>=0,z<0). There is already some info about axis
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Re: eneolock screen locker

2009-09-03 Thread Patryk Benderz
Dnia 2009-09-03, czw o godzinie 03:13 -0500, Mike Crash pisze:
> If someone interested, I have created new screen locker inspired by ZedLock.
Thanks for updating CU.

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Re: Community Updates 02-09-09

2009-09-02 Thread Patryk Benderz
Dnia 2009-09-02, śro o godzinie 18:41 -0400, Tony McKeehan pisze:
> Hello, everyone, I've sent out the release to the new community updates 
Thanks Tony, especially for keeping history of editions ;)

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Re: Fwd: buzzfix in India

2009-09-02 Thread Patryk Benderz
Dnia 2009-09-02, śro o godzinie 13:57 +0200, Patryk Benderz pisze:
> [cut]
> > I actually wanted to mention 20Apr2009 when Rakshat first sent off a
> But April was in the past. How can you tell people that this party will
> be organized in the past? I don't get it, is it something wrong with me?
OK, i think i get it now. On April 20th there was an announcement only?
If so, i would change text on CU from:
"IDA Systems had announced buzz fix for Indian customers on Apr 20th"
to:
"On Apr 20th, IDA Systems had announced buzz fix for Indian customers.
Exact date of buzz fix is not known yet..."

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Re: Fwd: buzzfix in India

2009-09-02 Thread Patryk Benderz
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> I actually wanted to mention 20Apr2009 when Rakshat first sent off a
But April was in the past. How can you tell people that this party will
be organized in the past? I don't get it, is it something wrong with me?

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Re: Fwd: buzzfix in India

2009-09-02 Thread Patryk Benderz
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> I have updated 
> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates/Draft_2009-09-02#Community.
> Hope thats fine!
I just wanted to be sure about date, by "...on Apr 20th." you mean
2010-04-10 ??? Isn't it too early for announcing?

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Re: Fwd: buzzfix in India

2009-09-01 Thread Patryk Benderz

Dnia 2009-09-01, wto o godzinie 13:54 +0530, Vikas Saurabh pisze:
> Hi guys,
> 
> First off, I am terribly sorry for the delay. I was too busy with work
> of late. Anyways, I guess we need to plan on the dates and mode of
> transport of phones to NCR.
> 
> Till now, I know of only following people (through this mail chain):
You might get some luck by announcing it on CU. Depends on how soon do
you plan to organize fix party. Is it better to announce tomorrow, or on
next CU?
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Re: [ALL] POLL: What distro do you use?

2009-09-01 Thread Patryk Benderz
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> OK, I won't close it tomorrow.
Thank you. Maybe it is worth to mention that it is still open on CU?

> (though I'm still pretty sure nothing dramatic will happen..)
I am not counting on this. My hidden target ;) is to use this poll to
get to know how many people reads CU and aren't subscribed to ML, if
they start to vote. Regardless of voting results i will get some
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Re: [ALL] POLL: What distro do you use?

2009-09-01 Thread Patryk Benderz
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> 
> Holy moly... where did that come from? By CU I am hoping you mean
> Community Update.  I did not mention nor did I consider the CU in my
> statement.  I don't know how many people read the CU but I would GUESS
> that the majority of the readers are on this mailing list and have
> already responded to the poll.  Regardless, It would not hurt to
> include it in the CU if there will be one soon.  I apologize if I hit
> an unseen nerve (and it seems I did.)
Seems wrong. Getting me nervous need much more effort and finesse. What
does, is that those 275 respondents you mentioned above are probably
only those who are subscribed to one/some of mailing lists. And you are
trying to ignore those who are looking information about their devices
other ways, like OM wiki. We do not know how many they are such people,
but I assume following:
minimum - NULL, that means you are right
maximum would be approximately the same as number of smart phones sold
by OM Inc. This number might be greater than 300. I do not want to
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Re: [ALL] POLL: What distro do you use?

2009-09-01 Thread Patryk Benderz
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> This is exactly what you're supposed to do, well done, thanks!
> 
> If one person starts stuff like this, he can only share it to n
> forums/lists - the people who read those and follow also some other
> need to spread the word.
If you really mean it, will you make those polls last longer?

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Re: [ALL] POLL: What distro do you use?

2009-09-01 Thread Patryk Benderz
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> 
> I completely agree... over 275 respondents with SHR claiming 65% of
> the usage votes.  I don't think carrying on the poll will alter the
> results significantly.
So, you assume almost no one reads CU? In that case maybe we should stop
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Re: Community news tomorrow - news needed!

2009-09-01 Thread Patryk Benderz
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> I have added the Advanced Geocaching Tool there; can someone tell me how
> to upload a screenshot?
Please add screenshot with resolution the same as FR screec , and not
bigger then limit for images on wiki.
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Upload

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Re: Community news tomorrow - news needed!

2009-09-01 Thread Patryk Benderz
Dnia 2009-09-01, wto o godzinie 12:00 +0300, Risto H. Kurppa pisze:
> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates/Draft_2009-09-02
> 
> Please add new application releases, any important e-mails from the
> lists etc etc, news from different distributions etc
Good to know that somebody else also takes care :)

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Re: [ALL] POLL: What distro do you use?

2009-09-01 Thread Patryk Benderz
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> So what's your idea to reach them?
through CU (I can see you already did this, thanks) but make this poll
last longer and invite people to vote with us.

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Re: New Freerunner Owner wants to help out!

2009-09-01 Thread Patryk Benderz
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> 
> .. or help with Litephone, which works with SHR and already uses
> opimd :-)
> 
> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Litephone
Michał, can you tell me where is some bug track for litephone? I
couldn't find it.


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Re: [ALL] POLL: What distro do you use?

2009-09-01 Thread Patryk Benderz
Hi Risto,
could you make those polls available longer? I assume there are some
amount of users who do not follow mailing list. We should let them vote
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Re: QNavitCtl - Navit Bookmarks via dbus

2009-08-28 Thread Patryk Benderz
[cut]
> with this: "Unfortunately using the country border for detecting the
> membership of a town also isn't an option, because the boundaries are
> usually not closed or wrong"
Exactly, but few sentences further, they claim there is a workaround -
you need some scripts they made.

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Re: Community list archives fail

2009-08-28 Thread Patryk Benderz
> The link to nabble doesn't work. Here's the correct one:
> http://n2.nabble.com/all-Don-t-answer-a-call-by-turning-FR-upside-down-tp3530667p3530667.html
Marko, maybe we should convince others (as on wiki CUD) to use: ?
http://news.gmane.org/index.php?prefix=gmane.comp.handhelds.openmoko

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Re: Om2009

2009-08-27 Thread Patryk Benderz
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> Sorry to tell you but this is because there have been no changes in
> OM2009 -> nothing that could break anything.
That is the virtue os stable release.

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Re: Showroom hosting , roadmap draft & design

2009-08-27 Thread Patryk Benderz
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> Wouldn't it be better to use Debian for the first start?
> - Az Martinez said it does not need any adoption on the distro-side
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Re: Om2009

2009-08-27 Thread Patryk Benderz
I use OM2009T5, with OWrt state files and few SHR libraries. Why OM2009?
Simply because it is much more stable than SHR-U. Now someone will start
yelling "...but it is called unstable...". Fine, but SHR means "STABLE
hybrid release" in first place. So i ask, where is this stability?
I hate to say this, but in circumstances you are having new full time
job, it might be worth to abandon OM2009. What to do on SHR? Definitely
take care of _real_ testing branch which would be more stable. This way,
some day maybe we will have SHR release which finally will be totally
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Re: QNavitCtl - Navit Bookmarks via dbus

2009-08-27 Thread Patryk Benderz
[cut]
> I like all the purposes you did it for - this makes Navit again a bit
> more usable
Oh, come on Risto, it is much more usable than tangoGPS for example.
Navit has a working routing engine which is vital.

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Re: [om2009] (I) messed up alsa

2009-08-27 Thread Patryk Benderz
Dnia 2009-08-26, śro o godzinie 19:21 +0300, Risto H. Kurppa pisze:
> You can try this:
> http://kurppa.fi/freerunner/config_files/gsmhandset.state (copy to ..
> hmm.. let me try.. /usr/share/openmoko/scenarios )
I'll try those also if you do not mind. I am still looking for good
scenarios. I still get complaints while talking through FR.


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Re: [om2009] (I) messed up alsa

2009-08-26 Thread Patryk Benderz
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> The sound has been described as
> BRRiKKKiRRRiRRiZZiZZZSCH
Congratulations! You have just found undocumented function of FreeRunner
- it translates your voice to BrikiriZsh language ;)

> I *guess* I messed up the alsa-state
> files permanently. What's the easiest
> way to revert them back to their original
Restore from backup ;) And seriously, i would download stock state files
from any distro and `scp` them into FR.
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Re: [ALL] POLL: What distro do you use?

2009-08-26 Thread Patryk Benderz
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> Could you add separate entries for Om 2007, Om 2008 and Om 2009?
+1
I think we also should post our modifications (like changing state
files, or using other telephony software) because for some of us - like
me - stock SHR is unusable.
Also might be worth to to mention if it is used as daily or testing
phone.
Can you put this on top of this survey?

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Re: [QtMoko] new images v6

2009-08-26 Thread Patryk Benderz
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> I saw in syslog, that atd takes only the first date as event you could 
> problably make an rework with a cron job for every day events. Or tell atd on 
> event make a new one.
...or install normal cron and use it. AFAIK it can be obtained on opkg
for instance...
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Re: [ALL] New showroom for Openmoko apps

2009-08-25 Thread Patryk Benderz
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> Do we want to support more hardware than the Freerunner?
IMHO - no. If this hardware supports some distro, than application would
run on it.
Opposite example would be showroom for distributions, where you should
tell if some distro runs on particular hardware.
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Re: [ALL] New showroom for Openmoko apps

2009-08-25 Thread Patryk Benderz
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> I a little disagree with you here, I like the vision of the apt-get
> portal to be aplication-centric instead of distro-centric, I agree to
Each distro has it's own bb files. How do you imagine concatenating
these? Several app's descriptions from each distro? You have to divide
showroom into distros to separate their bb files.
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Re: [All] Status of the OM community - volunteer

2009-08-24 Thread Patryk Benderz
Dnia 2009-08-24, pon o godzinie 09:08 +0100, nacer pisze:
> Hi,
> I see there is a lot of work on the wiki. How can I help? I am really 
> new to the project, but let me know how I can be helpful.
I invite you to help in editing Community Updates. IMHO it is easy for a
beginner, require not much work, but has to be done often. On [1] you
will find previous CU releases to have something to compare. Current CU
work is located in Draft_-MM-DD [2]. Exact instructions how to
contribute to Community updates, while conforming to wiki editing
guidelines are there [3].
Additionally if you have nice ideas how future Community Updates should
look like, we can discuss how template/draft of whole CU should like
here [4].

[1]
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates
[2]
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates/Draft_2009-09-02
[3]
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Talk:Community_Updates/Draft_2009-09-02
[4]
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Update_Draft

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Re: [shr-unstable 20090808] what the... opkg not found?

2009-08-24 Thread Patryk Benderz
Dnia 2009-08-23, nie o godzinie 09:28 -0700, jeremy jozwik pisze:
> r...@om-gta02 / $ opkg upgrade
> -sh: opkg: not found
you might want to try to use an alias:
# alias opkg='opkg-cl'


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Re: High pitch voice when the screen is in horizontal mode

2009-08-24 Thread Patryk Benderz
[cut]
> Anyone else experiencing the same?
I assume everybody experience this, but not all hear this sound, as it
is rather high frequency. 

> Btw, I haven't destroyed my ears going to rock concerts without ear
> plugs so if you don't hear it doesn't mean it's not there :) (No, I
> have no idea how high it is.. higher than I can whistle anyway..)
That is odd, i have destroyed mine but I can here it either ;)

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Re: How does well does this community work?

2009-08-24 Thread Patryk Benderz
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> has lead me to push forward a wiki, mailing list and nabble based  
For a starter i discourage you from using nabble - it is evil ;) - it
breaks one discussion into separate threads. It's a pain in the @ss for
those who use normal mail software. Especially when it is capable of
threading.
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Re: [ALL] New showroom for Openmoko apps

2009-08-21 Thread Patryk Benderz
[cut]
> Maybe we should get something like frappdb.org or something like that?
I like it :)
[cut]

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Re: [ALL] New showroom for Openmoko apps

2009-08-21 Thread Patryk Benderz
[cut]
> So what? Then such "showroom" should have Android, OpenWrt, Qtopia,
> OE, Gentoo, Debian, Arch... and other versions of packages for one
> app? Who'll package it then? Application developer? Showroom
> maintainer? Please be serious...
and that is exactly why "Showroom" should be showroom only - not a
repository. Packages should be maintained at distro level with bb
recipes.
> 
> Official Openmoko distributions are Om2009 and SHR (as now it's
Really? I have just checked here:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Distributions#Official_Openmoko_releases
and SHR is not listed as official. Should it be updated?

[cut]
> We're talking about "Openmoko" apps here. Other distro maintainers
> (like Debian, OpenWrt etc.) have to care about their repositories on
This topic is _not_ about repositories, look at the subject.
> their own. So they can post informations how to get in their repos,
> but on their own, on theirs sites or threads on ml. But if we're
> talking about Openmoko, then I can't see any better choise than
> sending recipe for shr-devel maillist, even, if it's target isn't only
> SHR.
> 
> > btw: i don't recall to be this list shr centric, so please post your "shr
> > rulz" stuff at the shr lists.
> 
> Ok, so we can't talk about any distro here, cause it isn't "Android
> centric"? I can't recommend Debian for someone here, cause it's not
> "Debian centric"? Be serious!
...be calm
> 
> SHR has the best system to send new recipes. If something else would
> have better, then i'd talk now about that, not SHR. Again, don't make
> people idiots, cause in majority of cases person who does that shows
> that he's idiot himself!
...easy, if we start fighting, there will be no time left for coding.

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Re: [ALL] New showroom for Openmoko apps

2009-08-21 Thread Patryk Benderz
[cut]
> It does not look good! Wiki is a nice idea, freely editable for
> everyone - but it just doesn't work for all purposes.
Such a showroom doesn't need to look fancy - it has to be informative!
Something like:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/index.php?title=Main_Page/pl&oldid=40837
is nice enough for me. And i bet it is not that hard to make it look
fancy at wiki if you really want to.

[cut]
> Can't get RSS out with comments. Wiki doesn't create a repository. And
> - it doesn't look appealing!
1.You didn't mention RSS earlier.
2.This topic is about creating Showroom - not about repo.
3.same as before - it has to be informative in first place, then we can
look after good look.

[cut]
> Not? See http://www.opkg.org/packages ...
Sorry, didn't noticed these two files:
Packages
Packages.gz
You are right, opkg is a repository. A poor one which doesn't include
dependencies. Regardless of above, you started this topic with subject
"New showroom for Openmoko apps", not "New repo..."

[cut]
> Have tried to do that for ~6 months now.
...to contact with him, or to convince him?

Did you investigate status of opkg.org domain? Is it bought by this guy
or sponsored by OpenMoko?
Someone mentioned that opkg.org source code is available. If domain is
sponsored by OM or else, than IMHO after half year of catching author
you can ask OM to hand it over to someone else, maybe you?

Looks like a flame - going to look aronud for an extinguisher ;)

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Re: [ALL] New showroom for Openmoko apps

2009-08-21 Thread Patryk Benderz
Dnia 2009-08-20, czw o godzinie 16:46 +0300, Risto H. Kurppa pisze:
> Hi there!
> 
> ABSTRACT
> I think a new showroom for community created application is needed to
I think instead of creating new showroom it is better to improve
existing ones.
> boost the development and help users to get to know new apps easily.
Wiki does this (applications section)
> Now we have opkg.org to show & distribute the apps created by the
> community for Freerunner.
> 
> SETUP
> opkg.org has allowed us to easily see what apps are new in the
Go ahead and improve wiki to show new
> community, the comment system has alowed us to get in touch with the
> developer/packager and we've seen nice screeshots there to encourage
> us to try apps. Also the release of opkg.org repository was great!
Wiki does this all also.
> 
> But:
> opkg.org is has many outdated and broken packages with missing dependencies
> opkg.org doesn't separate packages for different distributions
> opkg.org doesn't share the source codes as per GPL
> opkg.org code can be changed only by the main developer
> opkg.org developer doesn't seem to be working on it any more (since April)
> opkg.org developer is not an easy fish to catch
> 
> Now have a look at these:
sorry but i didn't even bother...
[cut]

> For Freerunner, we need something like this to do the trick. Being
> easily able to promote applications will inspire devels to write apps
> which the makes the users and other devels more satisfied with
> Freerunner and inspire more developers to participate. Repositories
> are nice but there needs to be a way for people to know what apps are
> now in. Ubuntu with ~30 000 packages doesn't inspire me to try even a
This is untrue my friend, first of all it would be not 30 000 but 27
000. But that is not true either because ~25100 of these packages are
backported from Debian. Thus the remeining ~1900 packages belong to
Ubuntu.
Regardless of the above, we should not compare Ubuntu/Debian
repositories with opkg.org, simply because opkg is not repository.
> music player without comments from others and a screenshot.
> 
> METHODS
> 
[...cut]
Everything in METHODS and below can be obtained with already existing
wiki. As a conclusion: better use your spare time to improve wiki
instead of creating another opkg.org. Or if i didn't convinced you yet -
try to catch opkg author, and convince him to hand over opkg page to
community.

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Re: [ALL] New showroom for Openmoko apps

2009-08-21 Thread Patryk Benderz
[cut]
> My opinion is simple. Developer of app provides bb file (or asks
> someone to write it) and then all distros provide that app in repo.
> And that's all.
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Re: Fwd: buzzfix in India

2009-08-21 Thread Patryk Benderz
[cut]
> We are planning a buzz fix for FRs in India. As Rakshat has already
Do you pplan it on any particular date? IMHO it is worth to put it into
CU, but need date details also.
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Re: [Community Updates] August 19, 2009 released!

2009-08-20 Thread Patryk Benderz
For details look at my response for Risto's mail.
> You might as well ask him to subscribe with another email, which might not
> be very convenient for him.
not convenietnt at all :(
> 
> I'm betting he might not be able to remove that message some corporate idiot
> thinks is binding.
exactly, i do not like all this garbage in my sig. at all!

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Re: [Community Updates] August 19, 2009 released!

2009-08-20 Thread Patryk Benderz
[cut]
> Awesome, thanks Patryk for this!!!
Praises also should go to:
* MadHatter
* Kichkasch
* PipBoy2000
* Crei

BTW, i am wondering, is it good idea to list who contributed to current
CU? This might encourage others to add something to CU.
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> ( I find this not fully suitable for this list.. Can I share the link
> now to other people... I'd appreciate if you could remove this from
> mails to this list..)
Yes, that is little complicated. I'll try to excuse myself a little:
Generally you are right and i intend to change my behaviour, but as Rui
wrote in another post in this thread, using another email account is not
convenient for me, simply because this is not my corporate email :). I
have to use it as corporate email temporarily because our mail service
was moved to exchange2007. I use Evolution, which does not support RPC
over HTTP yet. So i need to use one account for now. And i simply do not
remember to change my signature manually each time i send post here.
I was trying to setup different signatures, depending on destination
addressee, but AFAIK Evolution can change sign. depending on sender
address only. If you can provide some hints on how to do it i would be
grateful.

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servers in this corporate environment dominated by evil microsoft.

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[Community Updates] August 19, 2009 released!

2009-08-19 Thread Patryk Benderz
Hello everybody, August 19th , 2009 Community Update is out!
Take a look at:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates/2009-08-19

and contribute to the new draft at:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates/Draft_2009-09-02

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Re: [debian] navit: how good is the debian package?

2009-08-19 Thread Patryk Benderz
[cut]
> Since than i always compile navit myself from source directly on my
> freerunner (thanks to all the gcc tools in debian for freerunner).
> It compiles about half an hour but i can use every compile switch i like
> and it always runs quite fast. At the moment i think this is the best
> way for a fast and optimized version of navit.
I install navit as package from this feed:
http://download.navit-project.org/navit/openmoko/svn/
Maybe you could improve ipks compiled on this server, by telling them
which switches makes it faster on FR?

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Re: [all / linux] neo as gps unit?

2009-08-19 Thread Patryk Benderz
[cut]
> DAEMON_OPTS="-S localhost:gpsd -P $PIDFILE"
r...@om-gta02 ~ $ fso-gpsd -?
[...]
  -S integer (default 2947)   Set port for daemon
[...]
so you could provide just "-S gpsd" so daemon listen an all IPs...

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Re: [all / linux] neo as gps unit?

2009-08-18 Thread Patryk Benderz
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> if not, is it possible to do?
You might try this:
http://www.opkg.org/package_91.html

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Re: buzzfix in Switzerland?

2009-08-17 Thread Patryk Benderz
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> Any pointers would be great.
http://www.handheld-linux.com/wiki.php?page=Buzz-Rework


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Re: Intone 0.66 release

2009-08-14 Thread Patryk Benderz
>   :-) Well, it seems to me that some users don't use opkg.org. I hope I'm
> not breaking some ML rule here - am I?
Well, probably not, but i remember a thread where some users, including
me, asked for not using nabble, as it splits discussion into separate
threads, where it should be one. It is really annoying, especially when
you use normal mail client which is capable of threading.
I was afraid nabble could do something bad with ipks also. Besides
opkg.org is intended for such purposes, isn't it? :) And if you take a
look at opkg.org you will notice that most of apps has it's entries
there and are up to date.

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Re: Evopedia 0.2.1

2009-08-14 Thread Patryk Benderz
> It actually looks just like the article area of the official Wikipedia,
> but you are right, screenshots are always nice. I have put some on the
> opkg.org site: http://www.opkg.org/package_128.html
Thanks, actually i need this for CU entry and its tiresome to install
all applications just to make screen-shots...

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Re: [Wiki] Neon into Hall of Fame (2 Votes)

2009-08-14 Thread Patryk Benderz
[cut]
> Maybe just a mention of the Hall of Fame wiki page.  I`m not worried to much 
> about cheating. Its against the spirit of the community and I believe most 
> people knows this.
I already made a short note about HoF, The question was: what about
Doodle?


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Re: Intone 0.66 release

2009-08-14 Thread Patryk Benderz
[cut]
>   I'm thinking of moving the volume control to the settings page. That
> should give me some space for perhaps 2 more buttons (for +/- 5 sec fwd). 
>   What do you think?
IMHO it is better to get rid os icons next to song names, and put volume
slider vertically on right side of LCD.
>   Please post your feedback. Thanks.
> 
> http://n2.nabble.com/file/n3443088/intone_0.66_arm.ipk intone_0.66_arm.ipk 
Tell me, why do you use nabble for posting ipk, when this package is on:
http://www.opkg.org/packages/intone_0.66_arm.ipk
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Re: Buzz fix party at Debconf09 pics aviable :)

2009-08-14 Thread Patryk Benderz
Dnia 2009-08-11, wto o godzinie 12:16 +0200, Davide Scaini pisze:
> ...i want it fixed too!!!
> is there somewhere in europe where i can send my fr for fix?
You could in the past - read Community Updates:
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Re: Evopedia 0.2.1

2009-08-14 Thread Patryk Benderz
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> Everything is available at
> http://www.reitwiessner.de/openmoko/evopedia.html
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Re: [Wiki] Neon into Hall of Fame (2 Votes)

2009-08-14 Thread Patryk Benderz
[cut]
> I can setup a poll or two for the other applications if thats desired?
Is it relevant to inform about those pools on Community Update?
Personally i think only discussion lists members should vote. Otherwise
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Re: [Wiki] Neon into Hall of Fame (2 Votes)

2009-08-12 Thread Patryk Benderz
[cut]
> seems rather chaotic if we all start a thread to vote for an app,
> aren't there places to make free polls?
Good idea, but would be nice if i don't need to register yet another
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Re: [Wiki] Hall of Fame created

2009-08-12 Thread Patryk Benderz
> I tried to integrate an Author= Tag, but the box doesn't seem to support
> that. Could someone add such a feature? I don't know how to edit the box
> template. The data is already in the page, just need to support an
> Author=.
This can be done rather easyly but three cases arise:

1.All old calls to ApplicationBox should be updated

2.There already is "homepage" tag which should lead to contact
information also. If author doesn't provide contact info on projects
homepage, it might mean he/she doesn't want to reveal this info. We
should respect his/her decision.

3.We should formally ask ApplicationBox template author for his/her
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Re: [Wiki] Neon into Hall of Fame (2 Votes) (was: Re: [Wiki] Hall of Fame created)

2009-08-12 Thread Patryk Benderz
Dnia 2009-08-12, śro o godzinie 12:08 +0200, Marcel pisze:
> Am Mittwoch, den 12.08.2009, 04:58 -0500 schrieb KaZeR:
> > I suggest adding Neon (the image viewer).
> 
> According to Adolph Vogel's suggestion, I vote for Neon.
> 2 Votes so far.
+1
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Re: [Community Updates] August 6th, 2009 released!

2009-08-10 Thread Patryk Benderz
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> Impressive! the new layout is wonderful ;)
> Keep up the good work!
> 
>  Niko
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[Community Updates] August 6th, 2009 released!

2009-08-06 Thread Patryk Benderz
Hello eveerybody, August 6th, 2009 Community Update is out!
Take a look at:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates/2009-08-06

and contribute to the new draft at:
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Re: [CU] voting required - VOTING RESULTS

2009-08-06 Thread Patryk Benderz
Voting results are at end of this post, but first few explanation words
about assumptions i mad while counting votes. For those who have voted
more than once, I have counted votes from latest post.
It was easy to count votes of those who voted clearly and made sure i
counted their votes correctly, like Warren Baird. Many thanks to those
of you guys!
But some of you voted early, and didn't redefined your votes at and of
voting, so verify my assumptions, and redefine your votes LAST time if
you think i have misinterpreted your posts.

1.Alex Teiche wrote: "I like V1, but there has to be some sort of clear
defining line that defines the border between two of them(line, etc).
It would also be really great if it had either V3 or V4's table, as that
is really nice."
So i assumed it has to have white background, some lines dividing
tables, and "working hardware" table on right side of template.
Templates 7a and 7c fits this description, but you didn't defined which
"working hardware" table you like more. Since most of people voted for
7c than for 7a, i assumed you would do so also, thus i counted your vote
as: 7c.

2.Mathieu Rochette wrote: "I prefer the first template too. but is it
possible to have the third
column (hardware/works) for that one ?"
Again like above: white background, no word about frame (like/dislike)
so i took under consideration versions with frames and without. Now
about "working hardware" table. This mail was dated on 25th of July.
Wiki history shows that at this moment W/H tables was only on the right
side of the template so i assumed you wanted W/H table on the right
side. Thus templates 7a,7b,7c,7d fits here. Again, since most of people
voted for 7c than for 7a, i assumed you would do so also, thus i counted
your vote as: 7c.

3.Jon 'maddog' Hall. Your latest email, dated 2009-07-29 says: "Either
8a or 8b"
After scratching top of my head for a while and wondering if you wanted
to divide your vote between those two, or wanted me to decide which do
you like more, I decided I should be consequent and count your vote  as
in two points above (similarily as most voted), so i counted your vote
as: #8a.

4.Shashank Bharadwaj: you didn't voted explicitly, but you added new
version #9 to templates, so i assumed you wanted to vote for this
version, so your vote goes to #9.

5.Fabian Schölzel wrote: "May i propose some different layout? Wouldnt
it be better, if the 2-columns 
have the text left and the screenshot/infobox on the right?"
Your mail fits perfectly to #9 template made by Shashank Bharadwaj,
thus your vote goes to #9.

Conclusions:
For future (if any) votings i propose to clarify explicit rules before
voting, cause it took me over one hour to count votes, consider all
non-clear votes cases and write this email :)
Example voting plan might look like this:
Day[1]:Define proposed templates and make a post on ML.
Day[2-7]  :Gather remarks, comments and incorporate it to new templates.
Day[8-10] :Start voting period, gather votes.
Day[11]   :Stop voting period. Count votes and announce voting results.
Day[12-14]:Implement final changes.

VOTING RESULTS:
Name Vote
Alex Teiche  7c
Andrew Stephen   8a
Dave Ball8a
David Ford   1
David Reyes Samblas Martinez 7c
Denis Galvão 7c
Fabian Schölzel  9
jeremy jozwik2
Jon 'maddog' Hall8a
Juan Alberto Aranda Alvarez  8a
Marko Knöbl  1
Mathieu Rochette 7c
Nicola Mfb   7d
Patryk Benderz   7c
Rafael Campos7c
Shashank Bharadwaj   9
Warren Baird 8a

First three places:
1. 7c with 6 votes
2. 8a with 5 votes
3. 1 and 9 with2 votes

So the winner is #7c.

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Re: The University of São Paulo's intent to join Openmoko development

2009-08-06 Thread Patryk Benderz
> implement encrypted conversation over GSM data calls, which AFAIK isn't
> available in any of the closed phones.
There is such a solution of encrypted GSM call invented be some Polish
company:
http://www.tl2000.pl/en
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Re: [CU] voting required

2009-08-04 Thread Patryk Benderz
Second week of voting is passing by. Looks like nobody else will vote,
thus i propose to end voting on 2009-08-06, together with CU release
[just in case someone will release new distro ;) ].

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Re: q: isnt it possible to run neo without sim-card

2009-08-04 Thread Patryk Benderz
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> to me the subject appears as "[android-freerunner] q: isnt it possible
> to run neo without sim-card"
I use Evolution 2.26.1 and do not see this prefix... bug in Evo?

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Re: Commercial alternative to "MintyBoost"

2009-08-04 Thread Patryk Benderz
http://www.outletpc.com/c6862.html
http://www.boxwave.com/products/batteryadapter/
http://www.semsons.com/unbaexwiusbp.html

rather not AA:
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Re: Home automation with Open moko

2009-07-31 Thread Patryk Benderz
> Will a dongle that attaches to FR and an embedded system that connects 
> to home grid and then be able to control your home appliance from FR be 
> a product worth a consumer market?
Yes, but i would prefer to control such a grid by wifi or bluetooth,
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Re: [CU] voting required

2009-07-30 Thread Patryk Benderz
> May i propose some different layout? Wouldnt it be better, if the 2-columns 
Of course! You even may go to [1] and add another layout of your design.
It is really quite easy with wiki. Voting is still open, so go ahead!
Remember to use {{{Editing}}} tag if you plan longer edition.

[1] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Template:DistributionBox

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Re: Can my FreeRunner remind me to shut it down if it is still running at 22:00?

2009-07-30 Thread Patryk Benderz
> I prefer to shut down my cell phone before going to bed, but I
You can install core-utils package and use cron to shut it down
automatically at 22:00.

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