Re: Europe Distribution - PULSTER

[Marco Trevisan (Treviño)]

Christoph Pulster wrote:

- Freerunner - ready to order ASAP it is available.


Cool, so EU customers will get it before ordering the phone from you 
than buying it from USA...


- soon we offer accessories for Freerunner like spare batterie, charger,  
  Headset, pouch and also the debug-board


Well, in a private mail (quoted also in this ML) you said me that people 
that will buy a phone from you would get also the extra goodies (pouch 
and headsets) generally shipped only to people ordering a 10-pack from USA.

Can you confirm this?

Since I think that is an important issue for many EU buyers (at least 
the Italian ones I've talked to).


- group-sales make local communities, that is wonderful. I am happy to
  sell Freerunner separately or in packages.


I agree with Michele asking you if there's a kind of discount (at least 
on shipping) for a N-pack ordering (with N > 1 :)).


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Re: Europe Distribution - PULSTER

[Michele Renda]

Hello

The price you apply seem to be very correct.
I am a member of a Local Sales group (ITALY - Torino) and we will 
discuss about your propose.
In case we decide to buy from you as Sales Group, I think we will save 
on the shipping cost. Right?


Thank you for your interest in OpenMoko project.
Michele Renda


Christoph Pulster wrote:

I am Chris from pulster.eu - my hello to this great community.
May I add some points from my side:

- Freerunner - ready to order ASAP it is available. We do not
  take pre-orders of items we dont have in hands. For a one-time info-
  mail once the Freerunner is ready to order, please just email me
  mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
- we aim a Freerunner price tag of 299 EUR incl. VAT
- shipping worldwide with DHL, Europa 15 EUR, World 30 EUR postage
- soon we offer accessories for Freerunner like spare batterie, charger,
  Headset, pouch and also the debug-board
- group-sales make local communities, that is wonderful. I am happy to
  sell Freerunner separately or in packages.
- besides Neo1973 - 2x Base 199 eur, 2x Advanced Kit 399 eur in stock,
  last chance to get one

Many thanks,
Chris


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Re: Europe Distribution - PULSTER

[Marco Trevisan (Treviño)]

Thomas Ebi wrote:

I guess I can remove myself from the groupsales page now.


Well, I think that the GroupSales wiki page could be used however to 
reach people for creating Openmoko User Groups, also if you won't buy 
the Freeunner from the USA...


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Re: Europe Distribution - PULSTER

[Thomas Ebi]

Marco Trevisan (Treviño) schrieb:

> Well, I've got a reply about this by him:
> 
> Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote:
>>>  1. Do you know when you'll be approximately able to define a price?
>>>  2. The Freerunner will be shipped with extra goodies (generally
>>> given only to people buying a 10-pack (ie: pouch and headset)?
>>
>> Price fix ASAP I have the units in own hands/stocks.
>> 299-319 eur is really realistic.
>>
>> All goodies included at PULSTER !
>>
>> Also can be bought a lot accessories extra very soon (debug board,
>> pens,  cases etc)
>>
>>
>> you see, I will make all your wishes true :)
> 
> 

Yeah!

To be honest, I was looking forward to the extra pouch which I'm
guessing will be the same as the neo pouch:
http://www.openmoko.com/uploaded_images/57.png

I guess I can remove myself from the groupsales page now.

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Re: Europe Distribution - PULSTER

[Marco Trevisan (Treviño)]

Marco Trevisan (Treviño) ha scritto:

Thomas Ebi wrote:
Well as official partner will it sell the 10pack with the goodies? If 
Pulster doesn't is there another "reseller" that sell the pack?


I sent a mail to Pulster asking about this and they said that they 
won't be selling the 10pack but expect their price to be under that of 
an individual phone in a 10pack.
I also asked if it would be possible to pick up a freerunner directly 
and avoid shipping (this would have at least been convinient for me) 
but they said that it isn't possible due to some law.


That's the same he replied me in facts, but I don't know if they'll ship 
extra goodies (pouch and headsets) that for me are really important!


I'll ask him...


Well, I've got a reply about this by him:

Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote:

 1. Do you know when you'll be approximately able to define a price?
 2. The Freerunner will be shipped with extra goodies (generally
given only to people buying a 10-pack (ie: pouch and headset)?


Price fix ASAP I have the units in own hands/stocks.
299-319 eur is really realistic.

All goodies included at PULSTER !

Also can be bought a lot accessories extra very soon (debug board, pens,  
cases etc)



you see, I will make all your wishes true :)



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Re: Europe Distribution

[simarillion]

I think the question was, if trisoft customers will get their phone later than 
pulster customers, because trisoft is not an OFFICIAL PARTNER ?

In this case I don't think preorders are unserious, because the vendors can 
make a better calculation and for me as customer it's just more comfortable 
as I don't have to check my mails every day and do not miss the release.

I know that preorders are not good for competition between pulster and 
trisoft, but don' forget preorders are not binding.
 
All the best
Michael

Am Freitag 23 Mai 2008 09:35:23 schrieb Sebastian Billaudelle:
> Yes, you're right! Pulster isn't taking any pre-orders.
> But I do no think that you get your freerunner later, since Pulster is
> the OFFICIAL PARTNER!
> C. Pulster said he's the opinion that is is unserious to sell a phone
> that's not released or has a fixed price... I think that's right!
>
> cheers
> Sebastian
>
> Am Freitag, den 23.05.2008, 06:24 +0200 schrieb Marnix Klooster:
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> >
> > |> Steven Le Roux wrote:
> > |>> To resume, there are some dsitributors :
> > |>>
> > |>> France : Bearstech
> > |>> Germany : TRIsoft
> > |
> > | Marco Trevisan (Treviño) 提到:
> > |> Again there's also Pulster for Germany (and rest of Europe too).
> >
> > On 23-05-08 04:53, Harry Tsai wrote:
> > | Hi all,
> > | Currently, "ONLY PULSTER" is openmoko official partner in Germany and
> > | EU and He also is our first partner in world.
> >
> > That makes me a bit curious-- when I looked more than a month ago, only
> > TRIsoft took pre-orders of the FreeRunner, and Pulster didn't; or at
> > least I couldn't find any indication.
> >
> > So I ordered a FreeRunner from TRIsoft.
> >
> > Does that mean that I get my phone later than Pulster customers?  What
> > does it mean for me that TRIsoft is not an official Openmoko partner?
> >
> > As I said, just curious...
> >
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Re: Europe Distribution

[Marco Trevisan (Treviño)]

Thomas Ebi wrote:
Well as official partner will it sell the 10pack with the goodies? If 
Pulster doesn't is there another "reseller" that sell the pack?


I sent a mail to Pulster asking about this and they said that they won't be 
selling the 10pack but expect their price to be under that of an individual 
phone in a 10pack.
I also asked if it would be possible to pick up a freerunner directly and avoid 
shipping (this would have at least been convinient for me) but they said that 
it isn't possible due to some law.


That's the same he replied me in facts, but I don't know if they'll ship 
extra goodies (pouch and headsets) that for me are really important!


I'll ask him...

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Re: Europe Distribution

[Thomas Ebi]

>> Hi all,
>> Currently, "ONLY PULSTER" is openmoko official partner in Germany and EU 
>> and He also is our first partner in world.
>> 
>> BR
>> 
>> Harry
>
> Well as official partner will it sell the 10pack with the goodies? If 
> Pulster doesn't is there another "reseller" that sell the pack?
>
> Cya!
>
> Pietro

Hi,

I sent a mail to Pulster asking about this and they said that they won't be 
selling the 10pack but expect their price to be under that of an individual 
phone in a 10pack.

I also asked if it would be possible to pick up a freerunner directly and avoid 
shipping (this would have at least been convinient for me) but they said that 
it isn't possible due to some law.

regards,
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Re: Europe Distribution

[Harry Tsai]

Hi~

Trisoft should clarify the situation to their pre-order customers, in my 
side I am felt so sad they won't start business with openmoko directly 
that mean they are still not my official distributor partner in Germany. 
:-(
 
BR


Harry



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Hello Harry,

|> Steven Le Roux wrote:
|>> To resume, there are some dsitributors :
|>>
|>> France : Bearstech
|>> Germany : TRIsoft

| Marco Trevisan (Treviño) 提到:
|>
|> Again there's also Pulster for Germany (and rest of Europe too).

On 23-05-08 04:53, Harry Tsai wrote:
| Hi all,
| Currently, "ONLY PULSTER" is openmoko official partner in Germany 
and EU

| and He also is our first partner in world.

That makes me a bit curious-- when I looked more than a month ago, only
TRIsoft took pre-orders of the FreeRunner, and Pulster didn't; or at
least I couldn't find any indication.

So I ordered a FreeRunner from TRIsoft.

Does that mean that I get my phone later than Pulster customers?  What
does it mean for me that TRIsoft is not an official Openmoko partner?

As I said, just curious...

Groetjes,
~ <><
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Re: Europe Distribution

[Sebastian Billaudelle]

Yes, you're right! Pulster isn't taking any pre-orders.
But I do no think that you get your freerunner later, since Pulster is
the OFFICIAL PARTNER!
C. Pulster said he's the opinion that is is unserious to sell a phone
that's not released or has a fixed price... I think that's right!

cheers
Sebastian

Am Freitag, den 23.05.2008, 06:24 +0200 schrieb Marnix Klooster:

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> |> Steven Le Roux wrote:
> |>> To resume, there are some dsitributors :
> |>>
> |>> France : Bearstech
> |>> Germany : TRIsoft
> 
> | Marco Trevisan (Treviño) 提到:
> |>
> |> Again there's also Pulster for Germany (and rest of Europe too).
> 
> On 23-05-08 04:53, Harry Tsai wrote:
> | Hi all,
> | Currently, "ONLY PULSTER" is openmoko official partner in Germany and EU
> | and He also is our first partner in world.
> 
> That makes me a bit curious-- when I looked more than a month ago, only
> TRIsoft took pre-orders of the FreeRunner, and Pulster didn't; or at
> least I couldn't find any indication.
> 
> So I ordered a FreeRunner from TRIsoft.
> 
> Does that mean that I get my phone later than Pulster customers?  What
> does it mean for me that TRIsoft is not an official Openmoko partner?
> 
> As I said, just curious...
> 
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Re: Europe Distribution

[Pietro "m0nt0" Montorfano]

Harry Tsai ha scritto:

Hi all,
Currently, "ONLY PULSTER" is openmoko official partner in Germany and EU 
and He also is our first partner in world.


BR

Harry


Well as official partner will it sell the 10pack with the goodies? If 
Pulster doesn't is there another "reseller" that sell the pack?


Cya!

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Re: Europe Distribution

[Harry Tsai]

Hi all,
Currently, "ONLY PULSTER" is openmoko official partner in Germany and EU 
and He also is our first partner in world.


BR

Harry

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He is first official distributor. At least this is said at 
http://www.reuters.com . (Sorry for no link, but I'm not sure if I am 
allowed to post.)


Greetings Bastian

Sebastian Billaudelle schrieb:
| pulster.eu seems to be the first OFFICIAL distributor in europe!
| Freerunner -> 299€
|
| cheers
| Sebastian
|
| Am Donnerstag, den 22.05.2008, 16:53 +0200 schrieb Steven Le Roux:
|>
|> On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 2:54 PM, Joachim Steiger <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> wrote:

|>
|> Steven Le Roux wrote:
|> > What about Europe distribution ;). Let's come back to the subject :)
|>
|>
|> well.. i think that was already answered somewhere in the thread in
|> other words, but here my short version:
|>
|> afaik there will be 2 possibilities:
|>
|> - order at the openmoko us based webshop.
|> - pay in us$
|> - pay the (to europe quite high but not unusual) higher shipping fee
|> - if not in the us: pay the VAT/sales tax of the target country on
|> recieving the package to the ups guy (usually in cash)
|> - use a CC (currently JCB, VISA, MASTER. _no_ AMEX afaik)
|>
|> - order at a local distributor
|> - pay the local currency
|> - pay for shipping if you do not pick it up yourself
|> - pay the regional tax/vat of your county directly with the device and
|> shipping
|>
|> so the bottomline is: us customers as well as worldwide can very 
easily
|> order directly at openmoko. but if you do not want to have the 
hassle of

|> transatlantic shipping, different currencies etc or want local
|> warranty, buy at a local distributor.
|>
|> i guess due to the shipping costs its cheaper and less hassle to order
|> single devices directly at a distributor. also these could have
|> different payment methods, but thats their decision.
|>
|>
|> kind regards
|>
|> --
|>
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|>
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|> To resume, there are some dsitributors :
|>
|> France : Bearstech
|> Germany : TRIsoft
|>
|> we don't already know conditions, and prices with Bearstech, but 
TRIsoft seems to be arrested to 350€ incl VAT (plus fee's shipment)

|>
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Re: Europe Distribution

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Hello Harry,

|> Steven Le Roux wrote:
|>> To resume, there are some dsitributors :
|>>
|>> France : Bearstech
|>> Germany : TRIsoft

| Marco Trevisan (Treviño) 提到:
|>
|> Again there's also Pulster for Germany (and rest of Europe too).

On 23-05-08 04:53, Harry Tsai wrote:
| Hi all,
| Currently, "ONLY PULSTER" is openmoko official partner in Germany and EU
| and He also is our first partner in world.

That makes me a bit curious-- when I looked more than a month ago, only
TRIsoft took pre-orders of the FreeRunner, and Pulster didn't; or at
least I couldn't find any indication.

So I ordered a FreeRunner from TRIsoft.

Does that mean that I get my phone later than Pulster customers?  What
does it mean for me that TRIsoft is not an official Openmoko partner?

As I said, just curious...

Groetjes,
~ <><
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Re: Europe Distribution

[Harry Tsai]

Hi all,
Currently, "ONLY PULSTER" is openmoko official partner in Germany and EU 
and He also is our first partner in world.



BR

Harry


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Steven Le Roux wrote:

To resume, there are some dsitributors :

France : Bearstech
Germany : TRIsoft


Again there's also Pulster for Germany (and rest of Europe too).

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Re: Europe Distribution

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He is first official distributor. At least this is said at 
http://www.reuters.com . (Sorry for no link, but I'm not sure if I am 
allowed to post.)


Greetings Bastian

Sebastian Billaudelle schrieb:
| pulster.eu seems to be the first OFFICIAL distributor in europe!
| Freerunner -> 299€
|
| cheers
| Sebastian
|
| Am Donnerstag, den 22.05.2008, 16:53 +0200 schrieb Steven Le Roux:
|>
|> On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 2:54 PM, Joachim Steiger <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> wrote:

|>
|> Steven Le Roux wrote:
|> > What about Europe distribution ;). Let's come back to the 
subject :)

|>
|>
|> well.. i think that was already answered somewhere in the thread in
|> other words, but here my short version:
|>
|> afaik there will be 2 possibilities:
|>
|> - order at the openmoko us based webshop.
|>  - pay in us$
|>  - pay the (to europe quite high but not unusual) higher shipping fee
|>  - if not in the us: pay the VAT/sales tax of the target country on
|> recieving the package to the ups guy (usually in cash)
|>  - use a CC (currently JCB, VISA, MASTER. _no_ AMEX afaik)
|>
|> - order at a local distributor
|>  - pay the local currency
|>  - pay for shipping if you do not pick it up yourself
|>  - pay the regional tax/vat of your county directly with the 
device and

|> shipping
|>
|> so the bottomline is: us customers as well as worldwide can very 
easily
|> order directly at openmoko. but if you do not want to have the 
hassle of

|>  transatlantic shipping, different currencies etc or want local
|> warranty, buy at a local distributor.
|>
|> i guess due to the shipping costs its cheaper and less hassle to 
order

|> single devices directly at a distributor. also these could have
|> different payment methods, but thats their decision.
|>
|>
|> kind regards
|>
|> --
|>
|> Joachim Steiger
|> Openmoko Central Services
|>
|>
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|>
|> To resume, there are some dsitributors :
|>
|> France : Bearstech
|> Germany : TRIsoft
|>
|> we don't already know conditions, and prices with Bearstech, but 
TRIsoft seems to be arrested to 350€ incl VAT (plus fee's shipment)

|>
|> --
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Re: Europe Distribution

[Marco Trevisan (Treviño)]

Marc Bantle wrote:

Not to forget pulster.de, who charges 299€ for a freerunner ;-)


Maybe less. Check my previous mail!

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Re: Europe Distribution

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Steven Le Roux wrote:

To resume, there are some dsitributors :

France : Bearstech
Germany : TRIsoft


Again there's also Pulster for Germany (and rest of Europe too).

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Re: Europe Distribution

[f4lken]

i think we need to wait until the release... They will probably release 
at same time an "official" distributor loist...


Sebastian Billaudelle wrote:

pulster.eu seems to be the first OFFICIAL distributor in europe!
Freerunner -> 299EUR

cheers
Sebastian

Am Donnerstag, den 22.05.2008, 16:53 +0200 schrieb Steven Le Roux:


On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 2:54 PM, Joachim Steiger <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> wrote: 


Steven Le Roux wrote:
> What about Europe distribution ;). Let's come back to the
subject :)


well.. i think that was already answered somewhere in the thread in
other words, but here my short version:

afaik there will be 2 possibilities:

- order at the openmoko us based webshop.
 - pay in us$
 - pay the (to europe quite high but not unusual) higher shipping fee
 - if not in the us: pay the VAT/sales tax of the target country on
recieving the package to the ups guy (usually in cash)
 - use a CC (currently JCB, VISA, MASTER. _no_ AMEX afaik)

- order at a local distributor
 - pay the local currency
 - pay for shipping if you do not pick it up yourself
 - pay the regional tax/vat of your county directly with the
device and
shipping

so the bottomline is: us customers as well as worldwide can very
easily
order directly at openmoko. but if you do not want to have the
hassle of
 transatlantic shipping, different currencies etc or want local
warranty, buy at a local distributor.

i guess due to the shipping costs its cheaper and less hassle to
order
single devices directly at a distributor. also these could have
different payment methods, but thats their decision.


kind regards

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To resume, there are some dsitributors :

France : Bearstech
Germany : TRIsoft

we don't already know conditions, and prices with Bearstech, but 
TRIsoft seems to be arrested to 350EUR incl VAT (plus fee's shipment)


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Re: Europe Distribution

[Xavier Vens]

On pulster the price is in the description, the price in the list is
0.00 Euro, should not means that they will sell it at 299 Euro.
I don't trust this actually.


On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 6:49 PM, Sebastian Billaudelle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> pulster.eu seems to be the first OFFICIAL distributor in europe!
> Freerunner -> 299€
>
> cheers
> Sebastian
>
> Am Donnerstag, den 22.05.2008, 16:53 +0200 schrieb Steven Le Roux:
>
> On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 2:54 PM, Joachim Steiger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Steven Le Roux wrote:
>> What about Europe distribution ;). Let's come back to the subject :)
>
>
> well.. i think that was already answered somewhere in the thread in
> other words, but here my short version:
>
> afaik there will be 2 possibilities:
>
> - order at the openmoko us based webshop.
>  - pay in us$
>  - pay the (to europe quite high but not unusual) higher shipping fee
>  - if not in the us: pay the VAT/sales tax of the target country on
> recieving the package to the ups guy (usually in cash)
>  - use a CC (currently JCB, VISA, MASTER. _no_ AMEX afaik)
>
> - order at a local distributor
>  - pay the local currency
>  - pay for shipping if you do not pick it up yourself
>  - pay the regional tax/vat of your county directly with the device and
> shipping
>
> so the bottomline is: us customers as well as worldwide can very easily
> order directly at openmoko. but if you do not want to have the hassle of
>  transatlantic shipping, different currencies etc or want local
> warranty, buy at a local distributor.
>
> i guess due to the shipping costs its cheaper and less hassle to order
> single devices directly at a distributor. also these could have
> different payment methods, but thats their decision.
>
>
> kind regards
>
> --
>
> Joachim Steiger
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>
> To resume, there are some dsitributors :
>
> France : Bearstech
> Germany : TRIsoft
>
> we don't already know conditions, and prices with Bearstech, but TRIsoft
> seems to be arrested to 350€ incl VAT (plus fee's shipment)
>
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Re: Europe Distribution

[Joachim Steiger]

Michele Renda wrote:
> Hi, I'd be interested which firm will manage delivery: UPS, TNT, etc,
> for order from Openmoko shop to Europe.

the Openmoko direct shop in the US always uses UPS for now.

> So I can take information about shipping fee (but this I think you can
> give to me when the shop will be open) and doganal fee.

the shop does use a ups provided api to calculate the shipping costs on
the fly from our shipping hub in freemont to the address you supplied
and displays them before you are input your CC data.
so you should always know the shipping costs up in front.

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Re: Europe Distribution

[Sebastian Billaudelle]

pulster.eu seems to be the first OFFICIAL distributor in europe!
Freerunner -> 299€

cheers
Sebastian

Am Donnerstag, den 22.05.2008, 16:53 +0200 schrieb Steven Le Roux:

> 
> 
> On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 2:54 PM, Joachim Steiger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> 
> Steven Le Roux wrote:
> > What about Europe distribution ;). Let's come back to the
> subject :)
> 
> 
> 
> well.. i think that was already answered somewhere in the
> thread in
> other words, but here my short version:
> 
> afaik there will be 2 possibilities:
> 
> - order at the openmoko us based webshop.
>  - pay in us$
>  - pay the (to europe quite high but not unusual) higher
> shipping fee
>  - if not in the us: pay the VAT/sales tax of the target
> country on
> recieving the package to the ups guy (usually in cash)
>  - use a CC (currently JCB, VISA, MASTER. _no_ AMEX afaik)
> 
> - order at a local distributor
>  - pay the local currency
>  - pay for shipping if you do not pick it up yourself
>  - pay the regional tax/vat of your county directly with the
> device and
> shipping
> 
> so the bottomline is: us customers as well as worldwide can
> very easily
> order directly at openmoko. but if you do not want to have the
> hassle of
>  transatlantic shipping, different currencies etc or want
> local
> warranty, buy at a local distributor.
> 
> i guess due to the shipping costs its cheaper and less hassle
> to order
> single devices directly at a distributor. also these could
> have
> different payment methods, but thats their decision.
> 
> 
> kind regards
> 
> --
> 
> Joachim Steiger
> Openmoko Central Services
> 
> 
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> 
> To resume, there are some dsitributors :
> 
> France : Bearstech
> Germany : TRIsoft
> 
> we don't already know conditions, and prices with Bearstech, but
> TRIsoft seems to be arrested to 350€ incl VAT (plus fee's shipment)
> 
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Re: Europe Distribution

[Marc Bantle]

Steven Le Roux schrieb:

To resume, there are some dsitributors :

France : Bearstech
Germany : TRIsoft

we don't already know conditions, and prices with Bearstech, but 
TRIsoft seems to be arrested to 350€ incl VAT (plus fee's shipment)

Not to forget pulster.de, who charges 299€ for a freerunner ;-)

Cheers, Marc


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Re: Europe Distribution

[Steven Le Roux]

On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 2:54 PM, Joachim Steiger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Steven Le Roux wrote:
> > What about Europe distribution ;). Let's come back to the subject :)
>
> well.. i think that was already answered somewhere in the thread in
> other words, but here my short version:
>
> afaik there will be 2 possibilities:
>
> - order at the openmoko us based webshop.
>  - pay in us$
>  - pay the (to europe quite high but not unusual) higher shipping fee
>  - if not in the us: pay the VAT/sales tax of the target country on
> recieving the package to the ups guy (usually in cash)
>  - use a CC (currently JCB, VISA, MASTER. _no_ AMEX afaik)
>
> - order at a local distributor
>  - pay the local currency
>  - pay for shipping if you do not pick it up yourself
>  - pay the regional tax/vat of your county directly with the device and
> shipping
>
> so the bottomline is: us customers as well as worldwide can very easily
> order directly at openmoko. but if you do not want to have the hassle of
>  transatlantic shipping, different currencies etc or want local
> warranty, buy at a local distributor.
>
> i guess due to the shipping costs its cheaper and less hassle to order
> single devices directly at a distributor. also these could have
> different payment methods, but thats their decision.
>
>
> kind regards
>
> --
>
> Joachim Steiger
> Openmoko Central Services
>
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To resume, there are some dsitributors :

France : Bearstech
Germany : TRIsoft

we don't already know conditions, and prices with Bearstech, but TRIsoft
seems to be arrested to 350€ incl VAT (plus fee's shipment)

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Re: Europe Distribution

[Michele Renda]

Joachim Steiger wrote:

  - pay the (to europe quite high but not unusual) higher shipping fee
  - if not in the us: pay the VAT/sales tax of the target country on
recieving the package to the ups guy (usually in cash)
  
Hi, I'd be interested which firm will manage delivery: UPS, TNT, etc, 
for order from Openmoko shop to Europe.
So I can take information about shipping fee (but this I think you can 
give to me when the shop will be open) and doganal fee.


Thank you

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Re: Europe Distribution

[Joachim Steiger]

Steven Le Roux wrote:
> What about Europe distribution ;). Let's come back to the subject :)

well.. i think that was already answered somewhere in the thread in
other words, but here my short version:

afaik there will be 2 possibilities:

- order at the openmoko us based webshop.
  - pay in us$
  - pay the (to europe quite high but not unusual) higher shipping fee
  - if not in the us: pay the VAT/sales tax of the target country on
recieving the package to the ups guy (usually in cash)
  - use a CC (currently JCB, VISA, MASTER. _no_ AMEX afaik)

- order at a local distributor
  - pay the local currency
  - pay for shipping if you do not pick it up yourself
  - pay the regional tax/vat of your county directly with the device and
shipping

so the bottomline is: us customers as well as worldwide can very easily
order directly at openmoko. but if you do not want to have the hassle of
 transatlantic shipping, different currencies etc or want local
warranty, buy at a local distributor.

i guess due to the shipping costs its cheaper and less hassle to order
single devices directly at a distributor. also these could have
different payment methods, but thats their decision.


kind regards

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Re: Europe Distribution

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Roland Häder wrote:

On Thursday, 22. May 2008, Steven Le Roux wrote:
  

What about Europe distribution ;). Let's come back to the subject :)



As I have read here in mailing list, TriSoft, Germany will do it.
  


You can already pre-order at: http://trisoft.de/openmoko.htm

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Re: Europe Distribution

[Roland Häder]

On Thursday, 22. May 2008, Steven Le Roux wrote:
> What about Europe distribution ;). Let's come back to the subject :)

As I have read here in mailing list, TriSoft, Germany will do it.


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Re: Europe Distribution

[Steven Le Roux]

On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 8:57 AM, Philippe Guillebert <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Pietro "m0nt0" Montorfano wrote:
>
>> Rodolphe Ortalo ha scritto:
>>
>>> Bonjour! [...]
>>>
>>


What about Europe distribution ;). Let's come back to the subject :)



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Re: Europe Distribution

[Philippe Guillebert]

Pietro "m0nt0" Montorfano wrote:

Rodolphe Ortalo ha scritto:

Bonjour! [...]


Well i'm glad to see that you can talk french but this is a public ml 
and not everybody know frenc (me for example) so i (and other people) 
can't understand anything of what you said. So please talk in english, 
imagine what could happend if the asian people will stop writing in 
with our letter and start to write in chinese with their ideograms (i 
like them but i can't understand nothing)...

Hello,

Sorry about that - I guess this message was intended to me only. By the 
way, Openmoko seems to be a catalyst for finding fellow geeks : Rodolphe 
diplomed in the same engineering school (Supélec) as I did ; I also got 
news of an old friend I had lost contact with for 5 years...


There's a French saying about that : "Le monde est petit" :) (World's a 
small place)



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Re: Europe Distribution

[The Rasterman]

On Thu, 22 May 2008 00:47:17 +0200 "Pietro \"m0nt0\" Montorfano"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled:

> Rodolphe Ortalo ha scritto:
> > Bonjour!
> > 
> > Tiens tiens... voilà une adresse email qui me rappelle quelque chose;
> > bien que je n'ai pas remis les pieds a l'école depuis un sacré bout de
> > temps. (Ouf, déjà...!)  
> > 
> > Merci pour le lien vers le revendeur local en tout cas.
> > 
> > Rodolphe Ortalo (1994) ;-)
> > 
> 
> Bene son felice di vedere che parli il francese...
> 
> ENG
> Well i'm glad to see that you can talk french but this is a public ml 
> and not everybody know frenc (me for example) so i (and other people) 
> can't understand anything of what you said. So please talk in english, 
> imagine what could happend if the asian people will stop writing in with 
> our letter and start to write in chinese with their ideograms (i like 
> them but i can't understand nothing)...

http://translate.google.com/translate_t
:)

> Cya!
> 
> Pietro
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Re: Europe Distribution

[Marco Trevisan (Treviño)]

Pietro "m0nt0" Montorfano ha scritto:

Rodolphe Ortalo ha scritto:

Bonjour!

Tiens tiens... voilà une adresse email qui me rappelle quelque chose;
bien que je n'ai pas remis les pieds a l'école depuis un sacré bout de
temps. (Ouf, déjà...!) 
Merci pour le lien vers le revendeur local en tout cas.


Rodolphe Ortalo (1994) ;-)



Bene son felice di vedere che parli il francese...


Ehehe... Well he says something like:

Oh... Voilà an email address which remembers me something; also if I'm 
not going to school since long time (oh... Already!)

Anyway thanks for the link to the local reseller.

:P

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Re: Europe Distribution

[Pietro "m0nt0" Montorfano]

Rodolphe Ortalo ha scritto:

Bonjour!

Tiens tiens... voilà une adresse email qui me rappelle quelque chose;
bien que je n'ai pas remis les pieds a l'école depuis un sacré bout de
temps. (Ouf, déjà...!)  


Merci pour le lien vers le revendeur local en tout cas.

Rodolphe Ortalo (1994) ;-)



Bene son felice di vedere che parli il francese...

ENG
Well i'm glad to see that you can talk french but this is a public ml 
and not everybody know frenc (me for example) so i (and other people) 
can't understand anything of what you said. So please talk in english, 
imagine what could happend if the asian people will stop writing in with 
our letter and start to write in chinese with their ideograms (i like 
them but i can't understand nothing)...


Cya!

Pietro

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Re: Europe Distribution

[Marco Trevisan (Treviño)]

steve wrote:

Rodolphe Ortalo wrote:

Then it is probably time to ask the question: from a european user
perspective, will it be better to place (single-unit) orders directly at
Openmoko via the website or go via Pulster (official distributor no?)?

Our web shop will direct you to both. you choose.


Well... I've contacted Pulster about group orders and its price and he 
answered me:


Christph Pulster wrote:

about 10 pack orders - we try to be cheaper than the 10-order-
pack-price ! so no need to collect ten local buyers.


This sounds so good...! I'm waiting for official news (and maybe infos 
about the gifts too)...


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Re: Europe Distribution

[Rodolphe Ortalo]

Bonjour!

Tiens tiens... voilà une adresse email qui me rappelle quelque chose;
bien que je n'ai pas remis les pieds a l'école depuis un sacré bout de
temps. (Ouf, déjà...!)  

Merci pour le lien vers le revendeur local en tout cas.

Rodolphe Ortalo (1994) ;-)

Le mercredi 21 mai 2008 à 08:53 +0200, Philippe Guillebert a écrit :
> Rodolphe Ortalo wrote:
> > Then it is probably time to ask the question: from a european user
> > perspective, will it be better to place (single-unit) orders directly at
> > Openmoko via the website or go via Pulster (official distributor no?)?
> >   
> 
> Hey,
> 
> About distribution in Europe : Bearstech ( [French] 
> http://bearstech.com/openmoko/register ) is a french company that seem 
> to be wanting to distribute FreeRunner. But the page hasn't been updated 
> for a while...
> 
> Did they contact someone at Openmoko Inc ? Anybody heard of something ?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> 


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Re: Europe Distribution

[Michele Renda]

Hi Steve
I am helping to organize an Italian Sales Group - Torino.
I know is a bit too much early to ask this, but it will be usefull to 
know which company will deliver FreeRunner ordered direct from USA by 
OpenMoko shop.


Here we are frontier tax and it'd like to contact them to know how much 
they will be and how we have to pay them.


I am preparing some spreadsheet to calculate how will be the per unit 
cost, and until now the break point between local reseller and direct 
buy is around 4-5 units.


Thank you
Michele

steve wrote:


ya, that’s what figured doing a few calculations. That said, I did not 
calculate this for everyone in every country.


so YMMV



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I think the shipping from the US to Europe (I think it was on the 
order of $70-120) will make it much more expensive to
order single units from the US than from a European reseller. And you 
would probably get a better guarantee from a European reseller.


/Erland



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RE: Europe Distribution

[steve]

ya, that's what figured doing a few calculations. That said, I did not
calculate this for everyone in every country.

 

so YMMV

 

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I think the shipping from the US to Europe (I think it was on the order of
$70-120) will make it much more expensive to 
order single units from the US than from a European reseller. And you would
probably get a better guarantee from a European reseller.

/Erland

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Re: Europe Distribution

[Lucas Bonnet]

Philippe Guillebert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> About distribution in Europe : Bearstech ( [French]
> http://bearstech.com/openmoko/register ) is a french company that seem
> to be wanting to distribute FreeRunner. But the page hasn't been
> updated for a while...

Sorry, I can't keep up with the sheer amount of mails and information
exchanged on these mailing lists, so no updates, but the page is still
alive :)

We are in talks with Openmoko, we will resell the phones, we just need
to sort a few details out with them.



Regards,
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Re: Europe Distribution

[NeoSleg]

On Wed, 21 May 2008 08:53:29 +0200, Philippe Guillebert

<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Rodolphe Ortalo wrote:

>> Then it is probably time to ask the question: from a european user

>> perspective, will it be better to place (single-unit) orders directly at

>> Openmoko via the website or go via Pulster (official distributor no?)?

>>

>

> Hey,

>

> About distribution in Europe : Bearstech ( [French]

> http://bearstech.com/openmoko/register ) is a french company that seem

> to be wanting to distribute FreeRunner. But the page hasn't been updated

> for a while...

>

> Did they contact someone at Openmoko Inc ? Anybody heard of something ?

>

> Thanks

>





They have a (french) mailing list for that

([EMAIL PROTECTED]).



Last message of the list : 



On Tue, 20 May 2008 12:49:13 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED]

wrote:

> 

> Bonjour à tous,

> 

>   la production devait démarrer le 16 mai, mais l'usine a préféré

> lancer

> un dernier test avant. Donc ça décale d'une semaine la production.

> 

> La dernière estimation est que les téléphones sortiront de l'usine

pour

> l'expédition début juin, je cite Steve Mosher :

> 

> "I figure the first of June or such phones will ship out of china to

> Disty in EU and our HUB in the US."

> 

> Donc d'ici la mi-juin chez nous (compter 2 semaines de transit.

> 

> 

> Cordialement,

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Re: Europe Distribution

[Philippe Guillebert]

Rodolphe Ortalo wrote:

Then it is probably time to ask the question: from a european user
perspective, will it be better to place (single-unit) orders directly at
Openmoko via the website or go via Pulster (official distributor no?)?
  


Hey,

About distribution in Europe : Bearstech ( [French] 
http://bearstech.com/openmoko/register ) is a french company that seem 
to be wanting to distribute FreeRunner. But the page hasn't been updated 
for a while...


Did they contact someone at Openmoko Inc ? Anybody heard of something ?

Thanks


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Re: Europe Distribution

[Erland Lewin]

I think the shipping from the US to Europe (I think it was on the order of
$70-120) will make it much more expensive to
order single units from the US than from a European reseller. And you would
probably get a better guarantee from a European reseller.

/Erland
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RE: Europe Distribution

[steve]

Our web shop will direct you to both. you choose.

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rodolphe Ortalo
Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 2:19 PM
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Subject: RE: Europe Distribution

Then it is probably time to ask the question: from a european user
perspective, will it be better to place (single-unit) orders directly at
Openmoko via the website or go via Pulster (official distributor no?)?

Rodolphe

Le mardi 20 mai 2008 à 13:48 -0700, steve a écrit :
> The phone is in production. The samples people are getting are production
> samples. 
> 
> The biggest hurdle now is getting the factory to let us open the
floodgates.
> 
> It's annoying but also utterly normal.
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Al Johnson
> Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 3:58 PM
> To: community@lists.openmoko.org
> Subject: Re: Europe Distribution
> 
> One of the resellers in Germany appeared to be accepting orders last I
> looked, 
> but production handsets aren't shipping yet. See Steve's post from this 
> evening for an official update on timescales. Some key developers have 
> recently received preproduction handsets, so someone may have mistaken
this 
> for them being on sale.
> 
> On Monday 19 May 2008, Samuel Melrose wrote:
> > Oh right, well thank you =].
> >
> > You say selling, sorry to take your words so seriously... but are they
> > already on sale? I've heard a few people say that they are on sale in
> > the US, but I've seen nothing. Has anyone got anything on this please?
> >
> > I know its probably on the mailing list somewhere, just can't for the
> > life of me find a definite answer.
> >
> > Thanks very much,
> > Samuel Melrose
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > On 19 May 2008, at 17:50, enaut wrote:
> > > Samuel Melrose schrieb:
> > >> Hey everyone,
> > >> I noticed on the wiki that there was some discussion about a
> > >> distribution center in Europe to make it easier for people over here
> > >> to purchase Neo phones (well, I'm sure I remember reading it
> > >> somewhere, unless it was a very weird dream, but nevermind =S). If I
> > >> am correct, it said that it was looked into but came over as too
> > >> expensive? Or not viable for the company?
> > >
> > >
> http://www.pr-inside.com/openmoko-signs-deal-with-german-distributor-r384
> > >865.htm - thats pretty official I think :)
> > >
> > > plus there are multiple webstores selling the Freerunner.
> > >
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RE: Europe Distribution

[Rodolphe Ortalo]

Then it is probably time to ask the question: from a european user
perspective, will it be better to place (single-unit) orders directly at
Openmoko via the website or go via Pulster (official distributor no?)?

Rodolphe

Le mardi 20 mai 2008 à 13:48 -0700, steve a écrit :
> The phone is in production. The samples people are getting are production
> samples. 
> 
> The biggest hurdle now is getting the factory to let us open the floodgates.
> 
> It's annoying but also utterly normal.
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Al Johnson
> Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 3:58 PM
> To: community@lists.openmoko.org
> Subject: Re: Europe Distribution
> 
> One of the resellers in Germany appeared to be accepting orders last I
> looked, 
> but production handsets aren't shipping yet. See Steve's post from this 
> evening for an official update on timescales. Some key developers have 
> recently received preproduction handsets, so someone may have mistaken this 
> for them being on sale.
> 
> On Monday 19 May 2008, Samuel Melrose wrote:
> > Oh right, well thank you =].
> >
> > You say selling, sorry to take your words so seriously... but are they
> > already on sale? I've heard a few people say that they are on sale in
> > the US, but I've seen nothing. Has anyone got anything on this please?
> >
> > I know its probably on the mailing list somewhere, just can't for the
> > life of me find a definite answer.
> >
> > Thanks very much,
> > Samuel Melrose
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > On 19 May 2008, at 17:50, enaut wrote:
> > > Samuel Melrose schrieb:
> > >> Hey everyone,
> > >> I noticed on the wiki that there was some discussion about a
> > >> distribution center in Europe to make it easier for people over here
> > >> to purchase Neo phones (well, I'm sure I remember reading it
> > >> somewhere, unless it was a very weird dream, but nevermind =S). If I
> > >> am correct, it said that it was looked into but came over as too
> > >> expensive? Or not viable for the company?
> > >
> > >
> http://www.pr-inside.com/openmoko-signs-deal-with-german-distributor-r384
> > >865.htm - thats pretty official I think :)
> > >
> > > plus there are multiple webstores selling the Freerunner.
> > >
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RE: Europe Distribution

[steve]

The phone is in production. The samples people are getting are production
samples. 

The biggest hurdle now is getting the factory to let us open the floodgates.

It's annoying but also utterly normal.

 




-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 3:58 PM
To: community@lists.openmoko.org
Subject: Re: Europe Distribution

One of the resellers in Germany appeared to be accepting orders last I
looked, 
but production handsets aren't shipping yet. See Steve's post from this 
evening for an official update on timescales. Some key developers have 
recently received preproduction handsets, so someone may have mistaken this 
for them being on sale.

On Monday 19 May 2008, Samuel Melrose wrote:
> Oh right, well thank you =].
>
> You say selling, sorry to take your words so seriously... but are they
> already on sale? I've heard a few people say that they are on sale in
> the US, but I've seen nothing. Has anyone got anything on this please?
>
> I know its probably on the mailing list somewhere, just can't for the
> life of me find a definite answer.
>
> Thanks very much,
> Samuel Melrose
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> On 19 May 2008, at 17:50, enaut wrote:
> > Samuel Melrose schrieb:
> >> Hey everyone,
> >> I noticed on the wiki that there was some discussion about a
> >> distribution center in Europe to make it easier for people over here
> >> to purchase Neo phones (well, I'm sure I remember reading it
> >> somewhere, unless it was a very weird dream, but nevermind =S). If I
> >> am correct, it said that it was looked into but came over as too
> >> expensive? Or not viable for the company?
> >
> >
http://www.pr-inside.com/openmoko-signs-deal-with-german-distributor-r384
> >865.htm - thats pretty official I think :)
> >
> > plus there are multiple webstores selling the Freerunner.
> >
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Re: Europe Distribution

[Bastian Muck]

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Your question was answered 27 minutes before you wrote to the mailinglist.
see: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-May/017531.html

I guess somewhere in the last week of june (when shipped via air). But 
this is just my guess!


Greetings Bastian

Samuel Melrose schrieb:
| Oh right, well thank you =].
|
| You say selling, sorry to take your words so seriously... but are they 
already on sale? I've heard a few people say that they are on sale in 
the US, but I've seen nothing. Has anyone got anything on this please?

|
| I know its probably on the mailing list somewhere, just can't for the 
life of me find a definite answer.

|
| Thanks very much,
| Samuel Melrose
| [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|
| On 19 May 2008, at 17:50, enaut wrote:
|
|> Samuel Melrose schrieb:
|>> Hey everyone,
|>> I noticed on the wiki that there was some discussion about a
|>> distribution center in Europe to make it easier for people over here
|>> to purchase Neo phones (well, I'm sure I remember reading it
|>> somewhere, unless it was a very weird dream, but nevermind =S). If I
|>> am correct, it said that it was looked into but came over as too
|>> expensive? Or not viable for the company?
|>
|> 
http://www.pr-inside.com/openmoko-signs-deal-with-german-distributor-r384865.htm

|> - thats pretty official I think :)
|>
|> plus there are multiple webstores selling the Freerunner.
|>
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Re: Europe Distribution

[Al Johnson]

One of the resellers in Germany appeared to be accepting orders last I looked, 
but production handsets aren't shipping yet. See Steve's post from this 
evening for an official update on timescales. Some key developers have 
recently received preproduction handsets, so someone may have mistaken this 
for them being on sale.

On Monday 19 May 2008, Samuel Melrose wrote:
> Oh right, well thank you =].
>
> You say selling, sorry to take your words so seriously... but are they
> already on sale? I've heard a few people say that they are on sale in
> the US, but I've seen nothing. Has anyone got anything on this please?
>
> I know its probably on the mailing list somewhere, just can't for the
> life of me find a definite answer.
>
> Thanks very much,
> Samuel Melrose
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> On 19 May 2008, at 17:50, enaut wrote:
> > Samuel Melrose schrieb:
> >> Hey everyone,
> >> I noticed on the wiki that there was some discussion about a
> >> distribution center in Europe to make it easier for people over here
> >> to purchase Neo phones (well, I'm sure I remember reading it
> >> somewhere, unless it was a very weird dream, but nevermind =S). If I
> >> am correct, it said that it was looked into but came over as too
> >> expensive? Or not viable for the company?
> >
> > http://www.pr-inside.com/openmoko-signs-deal-with-german-distributor-r384
> >865.htm - thats pretty official I think :)
> >
> > plus there are multiple webstores selling the Freerunner.
> >
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Re: Europe Distribution

[Samuel Melrose]

Oh right, well thank you =].

You say selling, sorry to take your words so seriously... but are they  
already on sale? I've heard a few people say that they are on sale in  
the US, but I've seen nothing. Has anyone got anything on this please?


I know its probably on the mailing list somewhere, just can't for the  
life of me find a definite answer.


Thanks very much,
Samuel Melrose
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

On 19 May 2008, at 17:50, enaut wrote:


Samuel Melrose schrieb:

Hey everyone,
I noticed on the wiki that there was some discussion about a
distribution center in Europe to make it easier for people over here
to purchase Neo phones (well, I'm sure I remember reading it
somewhere, unless it was a very weird dream, but nevermind =S). If I
am correct, it said that it was looked into but came over as too
expensive? Or not viable for the company?


http://www.pr-inside.com/openmoko-signs-deal-with-german-distributor-r384865.htm
- thats pretty official I think :)

plus there are multiple webstores selling the Freerunner.

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Re: Europe Distribution

[enaut]

Samuel Melrose schrieb:
> Hey everyone,
> I noticed on the wiki that there was some discussion about a
> distribution center in Europe to make it easier for people over here
> to purchase Neo phones (well, I'm sure I remember reading it
> somewhere, unless it was a very weird dream, but nevermind =S). If I
> am correct, it said that it was looked into but came over as too
> expensive? Or not viable for the company?

http://www.pr-inside.com/openmoko-signs-deal-with-german-distributor-r384865.htm
- thats pretty official I think :)

plus there are multiple webstores selling the Freerunner.

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