Re: [CGUYS] Phone or PDA
I have a Samsung SCH-i700 (no longer sold by the majors) that has Wi-Fi built in. Does the 700 have wi-fi? Stewart At 06:42 AM 8/29/2007, you wrote: I'm trying to decide between something like a Treo 700 or a Palm TX. I currently use a Palm 500 and a Samsung cell phone. I like the idea of having the PDA and cell in one unit but I can see disadvantages as well (size for one). On the other hand the TX has wifi which would allow me to check email just about anywhere. Are there any cell phones like the Treo that would allow you to use non proprietary wifi? I'm not interested in paying $60 a month for something like Edge or whatever Sprints equivalent is just to occasionally check my email. Any thoughts? Nick Crettier Front Royal, VA * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Prince of Peace Ozark, AL SL 82 * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Phone or PDA
It may not be the unit- it is often your cellular provider that turns off WiFi- Verizon comes to mind. So, from what I recall, the 700 does have WiFi- if your vendor is NOT Verizon. I think you need to have ATT service or reprogram the device to have WiFi (NOTE: Verizon and Sprint refuse to accept reprogrammed devices). Eschew Obfuscation This is a reply from: Roy A. Ackerman, Ph.D., E.A. Financial, Managerial, and Technical Services for the Professional, Non-Profit, and the Entrepreneurial Organization 703.548.1343 voice 703.783.1340 fax From thinking to doing, from sales to profits, from tax to investments- we are YOUR adjuvancy -Original Message- From: Computer Guys Announcements and Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nick Sent: 08/29/2007 7:43 AM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: [CGUYS] Phone or PDA I'm trying to decide between something like a Treo 700 or a Palm TX. I currently use a Palm 500 and a Samsung cell phone. I like the idea of having the PDA and cell in one unit but I can see disadvantages as well (size for one). On the other hand the TX has wifi which would allow me to check email just about anywhere. Are there any cell phones like the Treo that would allow you to use non proprietary wifi? I'm not interested in paying $60 a month for something like Edge or whatever Sprints equivalent is just to occasionally check my email. Any thoughts? Nick Crettier Front Royal, VA * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Change in Terminology AND broken ibooks
On Aug 29, 2007, at 1:04 AM, b_s-wilk wrote: I took my iBook to the Apple Store today and they don't have a 'special tool' to fix the broken plug tip. However, at our Mac club meeting I got a terrific suggestion--dental tools. You know that scary looking narrow curved hook think that they use to clean between teeth? I'm calling my dentist tomorrow to see what kind of old tools he has that might remove the broken plug tip. What about a straightened fish hook? Steve * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] YahooGroups Problem - Please Help
That just bears out what I said. We show 267 active members (out of 868), and in the month of July there were 4,308 posts! Of course, that doesn't count the shoutbox or chatroom or PMs. On 8/29/07, Alvin Auerbach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tony, thanks for your reply. We currently have over 340 members, with over 240 messages in July. A few members have dropped out due to the deluge, there's been a few flames, but mostly we don't have problems, except for the Yahoo software. Alvin I've never had that specific problem, but my Yahoo account has been hacked twice making it impossible for me to do ANY moderating on my list for long periods. I didn't think AOL did public groups. The alternative is Google Groups I believe. I'm only in one; they seem the same. I run a neighborhood web forum up here in WV, and IMHO free mailing lists are not a great way to engender a sense of community. Maybe with 10-20 people, but once you start getting more nobody can handle the deluge of email. Unless nobody talks about anything. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] YahooGroups Problem - Please Help
Here is a problem I run into that is not really Yahoogroups problem. Every now and then my ISP (earthlink) just drops emails. I mean they drop them, I don't get them and they go into the etherworld. (This happened with a few important notifications for payments I receive for a couple of accounts.) I also cannot set my charter addresses as alternatives to Yahoogroups as Charter will not let their authorization email into the system. I am not sure where the problem lies, but I suspect it is because yahoogroups mail is often tagged as spam by some major spam filters and it it just gets filtered out. This might be a good reason to switch to Googlegroups, but they are not without problems either. Stewart At 08:53 AM 8/29/2007, you wrote: Stewart, thanks for your reply. I've always had all of those boxes checked. On receipt of your message, I went back and looked at them, and they're still checked. I think that I'm getting notified if an application makes it to Pending, and anyhow I check Pending regardless of any notification. It's just that many applications for memberships just don't get from E-mail Commands to Pending!! And Yahoo doesn't seem to care!! Alvin Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Prince of Peace Ozark, AL SL 82 * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] YahooGroups Problem - Please Help
Alvin - I run two lists on YahooGroups, one with about 700 subscribers. What has worked for me is to NOT moderate subscriptions but instead to moderate posts from all new members (I think that this lasts 6 months). When spammers and/or others who are inappropriate to the group post their first messages, I reject their message, unsusbscribe them, and then ban them. Not exactly the highest-tech solution but it works for me and it might for you. Presumably, if someone outside your neighborhood subscribes, it's not with the intention of lurking but rather of selling something, etc. and they will probably show themselves right away. Good luck. Kelly * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
[CGUYS] Change in Terminology AND broken ibooks
I don't know why anyone contributing or receiving this list could complain about the value of information we get. That said, I did it! As a tip to the other loyal viewers- like Betty suggested, frequent returns to the Apple store list are rewarded. By getting up early and returning to the site, I found a bunch of new stock and purchased the one I wanted. Thanks all! Arnold --Betty said--- I took my iBook to the Apple Store today and they don't have a 'special tool' to fix the broken plug tip. However, at our Mac club meeting I got a terrific suggestion--dental tools. You know that scary looking narrow curved hook think that they use to clean between teeth? I'm calling my dentist tomorrow to see what kind of old tools he has that might remove the broken plug tip. As for the online Apple store, the stock in the tag sale changes constantly. It took two weeks to get the black video iPod my husband wanted, at a super discount. If you don't get the item you want today, check back tomorrow several times. The Mac you want WILL appear in the list soon. As for your broken headphone jack, you can use a USB Griffin iMic instead. Betty * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] YahooGroups Problem - Please Help
At 04:29 PM 08/29/2007 +, Kelly Morris wrote Alvin - I run two lists on YahooGroups, one with about 700 subscribers. What has worked for me is to NOT moderate subscriptions but instead to moderate posts from all new members (I think that this lasts 6 months). Moderating members lasts until the moderator changes the status of the member to unmoderated. A moderator can change the status as soon as the membership appears, or leave it in place for as long as they want. I've never had any known problems with pending messages or memberships showing up. If I did, I'd probably set the list the same way you have. As long as it works the way it's supposed to, I think it's easier to weed out spammers from the git-go. Sue * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
[CGUYS] lcd/dlp/plasma
Ok, the time may be upon me. My wife has finally at long last, after much debate, and silence on the subject agreed to go *look* at a new tv. A discontinued sharp aquos is looking like the likely buy. 1299 gets us a 42 lcd at max 1080p resolution. Any thoughts on real world lcd vs plasma is welcome. I've heard a LOT of bad things about DLP so unless someone can debunk the bad things i've heard about that technology, I'll probably stick with LCD or Plasma. I'm also wondering just how bad a standard signal would look on an LCD. We probably won't be getting the upgraded box for sat. just yet so we will only get over the air HD. I've also got a pc i'll be hooking up as well as a progressive dvd player. Mike * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] lcd/dlp/plasma
Oh you will be very surprised at how nicely the signal (ordinary) looks on a new LCD TV. We just got one this year and it is sharp and nice. (No HD just digital box, but even that is nice) DVD's look stupendous. We got a 32/37 (cant remember) for about half that, and it is still nice. (viewsonic) Stewart At 05:00 PM 8/29/2007, you wrote: Ok, the time may be upon me. My wife has finally at long last, after much debate, and silence on the subject agreed to go *look* at a new tv. A discontinued sharp aquos is looking like the likely buy. 1299 gets us a 42 lcd at max 1080p resolution. Any thoughts on real world lcd vs plasma is welcome. I've heard a LOT of bad things about DLP so unless someone can debunk the bad things i've heard about that technology, I'll probably stick with LCD or Plasma. I'm also wondering just how bad a standard signal would look on an LCD. We probably won't be getting the upgraded box for sat. just yet so we will only get over the air HD. I've also got a pc i'll be hooking up as well as a progressive dvd player. Mike * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Prince of Peace Ozark, AL SL 82 * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] lcd/dlp/plasma
P.S. I should have mentioned that an LCD screen currently becomes very expensive if larger than about 40 - 45 inches. Thus, a plasma TV costs less for a larger screen than approximately this size. Second, I should have mentioned that the manufacturer of the rear projection TV that my daughter bought claims a horizontal viewing angle of 70 degrees on each side of perpendicular, and a vertical angle of 30 degrees each side of perpendicular. I did not actually check this angle out at her house, but could easily see that the horizontal viewing angle is far greater than some rear-projection TVs that I have seen in years past; some of these required nearly a head-on view to get full brightness and contrast. Third, I should have mentioned that I don't own an HDTV. I am waiting until Xmas 2008 or until Feb. 2009 to make a choice. Therefore, my opinion previously expressed is based on shopping at local stores on the IEEE article. The lamp warranty was a big factor in my daughter's choice of the DLP TV, as well as her desiring a very large screen. Robert wrote: My two cents. If it is a choice between an LCD or a plasma, I would choose LCD. This opinion is based on a lengthy article in the IEEE Spectrum magazine of 1/2 to 1 year ago reviewing the available HDTV display properties. According to that article, the LCD has an expected lifetime of 5 -- 7 years whereas the plasma display is about 4 years or so. The plasma display gradually gets dimmer and changes color from day one but is not noticeable for about the first 4 years when incorrect colors become a problem. In addition, the plasma is bulky and requires a lot of energy. The article suggested that the plasma technology would fade away as newer technologies become available. The LCD suffers from failure of the backlight. There is a coming technology that provides an individual backlight for each crystal (pixel) that is promising but AFAIK has not arrived on the market yet. My daughter bought a 61 rear projection HDTV a few weeks ago after doing quite a bit of research. I am surprised how much improved the display is from those I have seen in the past and how thin the display is. It's depth is 15 inches and weighs 75 pounds. The problem with the projection TV is burnout of the lamp. This occurs in about 4 -- 5 years and is expensive to replace if possible -- on some models the lamp can't be replaced. She got an extended warranty that covers lamp replacement for 6 years at a cost much less than the cost of the lamp. In case you're interested, the model my daughter chose is a Samsung HL-T6187S * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Windows Defender vs SpyBot Search Destroy
Andy, Thanks for the reference but the article is about a test on Vista, not Windows XP SP2. Steve Andy Gallant wrote: fyi (ymmv) - http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,136205/article.html Stephen Meskin wrote: Does anyone have experience comparing these two? I have used Spybot for a couple of years I also go thru a router and use Firefox, Thunderbird and AVG with Windows XP Firewall off and have had no problem yet. My wife heard that Defender was very good, she goes thru the same router, uses Firefox, M$ Outlook and AVG with Windows XP Firewall turned on. I said I would check Defender with you guys. Steve /snip/ * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] YahooGroups Problem - Please Help
I know that the message gets to yahoo because it's listed in the email commands! Here is a problem I run into that is not really Yahoogroups problem. Every now and then my ISP (earthlink) just drops emails. I mean they drop them, I don't get them and they go into the etherworld. (This happened with a few important notifications for payments I receive for a couple of accounts.) I also cannot set my charter addresses as alternatives to Yahoogroups as Charter will not let their authorization email into the system. I am not sure where the problem lies, but I suspect it is because yahoogroups mail is often tagged as spam by some major spam filters and it it just gets filtered out. This might be a good reason to switch to Googlegroups, but they are not without problems either. Stewart At 08:53 AM 8/29/2007, you wrote: Stewart, thanks for your reply. I've always had all of those boxes checked. On receipt of your message, I went back and looked at them, and they're still checked. I think that I'm getting notified if an application makes it to Pending, and anyhow I check Pending regardless of any notification. It's just that many applications for memberships just don't get from E-mail Commands to Pending!! And Yahoo doesn't seem to care!! Alvin Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Prince of Peace Ozark, AL SL 82 * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] lcd/dlp/plasma
Might want to check into the selling of local stations, out locals came with at the same cost. Course we never watch local anyway. Most of my HD content will be off my computer and dvd anyway. Mike On 8/29/07, Rev. Stewart Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In our area, we will be living with SD for a long time. We are such small markets that no TV station has indicated that they will be upgrading to HD. matter of fact they have said, No upgrade in the foreseeable future. Oh don't suggest Cable I already have it, they to have indicated they are not doing much about it. Satellite might be an option, but then again they just sell you the local stations as an add on!!! Stewart At 07:35 PM 8/29/2007, you wrote: I'm also wondering just how bad a standard signal would look on an LCD. We probably won't be getting the upgraded box for sat. just yet so we will only get over the air HD. SD on HD LCD is very good. OTA HD is better than OTA SD was. Can be a problem if signal is marginal as it will toggle between great picture and no picture. I'm told by a colleague who got an on-roof antenna installed that the results of that were tremendous. Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Prince of Peace Ozark, AL SL 82 * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] lcd/dlp/plasma
On Aug 29, 2007, at 8:10 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: In our area, we will be living with SD for a long time. We are such small markets that no TV station has indicated that they will be upgrading to HD. matter of fact they have said, No upgrade in the foreseeable future. I have been under the assumption that standard definition TV is required to cease being broadcast at a specified point in time. Those frequencies are supposed to be auctioned off. Are you saying that in your area SD will be broadcast on the new frequencies assigned to HD broadcasts? Steve * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] lcd/dlp/plasma
Thanks for the quick input...looks like i will be going for LCD. Now, who can come over and convince my wife? Mike On 8/29/07, Tony B [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Right. It is *not* SD that is being mandated, only that they replace their analog transmitters with 'digital' ones. However, by then more and more footage will be shot in various flavors of HD, so it'll become more common gradually. Most of what we see on TV today is shot in HD. Once a station's digital facilities are in place, it won't cost them any extra to broadcast in HD, so they will. This conversion is not *supposed* to leave any 'dark' TVs when the last analog transmitter is shut down on February 17, 2009. There will be cheap converter boxes, and in fact there's a mandate to offer one free box per household (that requests one). However, at this point I wouldn't buy a new TV that doesn't specifically offer the new ATSC tuner. On 8/29/07, Rev. Stewart Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just looked it up. It is the conversion of Analog to Digital that is being mandated by 2009. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] YahooGroups Problem - Please Help
At 08:06 PM 08/29/2007 -0400, Alvin Auerbach wrote It's not that we want to control what people write, after they're in the group. We want to control who gets in to the group. So we need to approve or deny, so we need the request to go to Pending. I understand--I have a closed group like that also. How many potential members do you have? How do the neighbors find out about the group? Perhaps it would work to simply have them email you and you could send invites or even direct add them to your group? Sue * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] lcd/dlp/plasma
No need for that Mike. Do this. Find out what you wife's favorite movie is. Take her to the store you are considering buying the TV at. Have them hook up the DVD player to both a SDTV (similar to what you have at home) and the LCD TV you are considering buying. Once she sees the difference at what the movie looks like she will probably be OK with it. Stewart At 09:10 PM 8/29/2007, you wrote: Thanks for the quick input...looks like i will be going for LCD. Now, who can come over and convince my wife? Mike Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Prince of Peace Ozark, AL SL 82 * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] YahooGroups Problem - Please Help
Yes there is, you have to know how Yahoo does it. (Believe me they had me stumped too until the other moderator of our group caught it.) Go to invite people just like you normally would. Scroll down to the bottom. It says, http://groups.yahoo.com/group/daystar//group/daystar/subs_addAdd Members from an existing email list. Click this and then you will do a direct add, however you are limited to how many times you can do this a day. Stewart At 09:30 PM 8/29/2007, you wrote: Sue, I am pretty sure there is no way in Yahoo groups to directly add people. I like your suggested work around of inviting people who you see in the email request queue. You can put in a note that this is part of your double opt-in approach g. John DeCarlo, My Views Are My Own Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Prince of Peace Ozark, AL SL 82 * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] lcd/dlp/plasma
In a message dated 8/29/2007 8:53:00 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have been under the assumption that standard definition TV is required to cease being broadcast at a specified point in time. Those frequencies are supposed to be auctioned off. Are you saying that in your area SD will be broadcast on the new frequencies assigned to HD broadcasts? See _http://www.dtv.gov/_ (http://www.dtv.gov/) ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
[CGUYS] Dental Tools
Harbor Freight Tools. mail order and in some locations retail stores. Rocky --Betty said--- I took my iBook to the Apple Store today and they don't have a 'special tool' to fix the broken plug tip. However, at our Mac club meeting I got = a terrific suggestion--dental tools. You know that scary looking narrow curved hook think that they use to clean between teeth? Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user panel and lay it on us. http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7 * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] YahooGroups Problem - Please Help
Sue, Potential members -- let's say potential households instead: 1300. We have a newsletter which we publish about 3 or 4 times per year in which stress the importance of joining the group. I want and need the Yahoo machinery to do its work, and keep my work at a minimum. I feel overloaded already. :( Alvin At 08:06 PM 08/29/2007 -0400, Alvin Auerbach wrote It's not that we want to control what people write, after they're in the group. We want to control who gets in to the group. So we need to approve or deny, so we need the request to go to Pending. I understand--I have a closed group like that also. How many potential members do you have? How do the neighbors find out about the group? Perhaps it would work to simply have them email you and you could send invites or even direct add them to your group? Sue * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] YahooGroups Problem - Please Help
Finally!! A reply from Yahoo! This makes sense, so I guess that I'll stop worrying about it. If people want to join but don't follow the instructions there's nothing that I can do about it (except point it out to them). Thanks everyone for your assistance. Alvin ==Begin Message From Yahoo == Hello Alvin, Thank you for writing to Yahoo! Groups. We appreciate your patience, Alvin. I have heard back from our engineers regarding your concerns about potential members who have requested to join the group via email not showing in the pending members section. Members who request to join via email are sent a confirmation email asking them to confirm. Once this email is returned, they will show up in pending. If they do not respond to the confirmation, they will not show in pending. I hope this has addressed your concerns. Please contact us again if you have any further questions or concerns. Thank you again for contacting Yahoo! Groups. Regards, Gidget ==End Message From Yahoo == At 9:15 PM -0400 8/28/07, Alvin Auerbach wrote: Part 1 Is anyone else a YahooGroups moderator in a group where the moderator must approve each applicant? If so, have you had this [see below] problem, where the email request for membership is received by yahoo, but is not transferred to the Pending page, where a moderator can deal with it? Have you complained? What happened? I have this problem over and over, and prospective members are angry, since they apply and are not approved. Have you found some other way to get around the problem? FAQ: Why do you want to approve each membership application? Ans: The Group is for our neighborhood only, and we disapprove any applicant outside of our boundaries. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Part 2 Is AOL any better? Is there a way to transition to AOL and not need to have all the members reapply? Thanks, Alvin Begin Message to YahooGroups IT NEVER ENDS!! The page http://groups.yahoo.com/[group]//logs?cat=cmds shows Aug 28, 2007 5:59 pm [EMAIL PROTECTED] Membership requested via email The page http://groups.yahoo.com/[group]//members?group=pending does NOT show this request at Aug 28, 2007 8:35 pm The page http://groups.yahoo.com/[group]//logs?cat=mod does NOT show any activity regarding [EMAIL PROTECTED] CAN YOU PLEASE, PLEASE, MAKE THE YAHOOGROUPS SOFTWARE WORK? Please advise. Thank you, Alvin End Message to YahooGroups * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
