Re: [CGUYS] Decent SIP phone

[Vicky Staubly]

On Fri, 11 Apr 2008, John Mealey III wrote:

Need a decent VOIP phone.

Needs to take power over ethernet.

Are there phones out there that people
really like?  Or, not really like?


The only one I've ever used was this one. I used it when I worked at
a VoIP company (we used it for interoperability testing). I don't
think they make it any more, so support is probably not available.

http://yhst-73657565785289.stores.yahoo.net/pingtel-xpressa-sipvoip-ip-phone.html

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[CGUYS] Time Machine Stops Erasing Old Backups

[Harvey]

That's a good idea.  After it fails again, I'll try it.

Harvey

From: "John A. Newitt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: April 11, 2008 7:56:35 AM EDT
Subject: Re: Time Machine Stops Erasing Old Backups


At 12:40 AM -0400 4/10/08, Harvey wrote:

I confirmed that TM is not erasing old backups to make way for the  
new -- again, this is only necessary once the disk is full -- by  
going into the TM backup drive and manually erasing a couple of the  
oldest backups.  That solved the problem, for now.  But the point  
remains, once the backup drive is full, TM can fail to do its job of  
erasing the oldest backups to make way for the newest.


Could this be a file permissions issue? If your try repairing  
permissions on your backup disk does the problem go away?


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Re: [CGUYS] Anyone get an email from Reunion.com saying someone is searching for you?

[Ranbo]

H'I assumed it was Gmail account since the unsolicited email arrived
in Gmail and not OE and I registered using Gmail address.  But come to think
of it, once I registered, further emails from Reunion.com came to OE email.

Anyone know if this is legal, i.e. how or why it differs from sending a
virus to do the same?

Randall

On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 9:03 PM, Brim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I can understand an Outlook or Thunderbird address book, but how does it
> get
> the addresses from your GMAIL accountThey are stored on line aren't
> they?
>
> Brian
> =
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> apparently every email address in my Gmail address book would receive such
> an invitation, one that said I was looking for the recipient on
> Reunion.com!
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[CGUYS] Decent SIP phone

[John Mealey III]

Need a decent VOIP phone.

Needs to take power over ethernet.

Are there phones out there that people
really like?  Or, not really like?

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Re: [CGUYS] Anyone get an email from Reunion.com saying someone is searching for you?

[Brim]

I can understand an Outlook or Thunderbird address book, but how does it get
the addresses from your GMAIL accountThey are stored on line aren't
they?

Brian
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Re: [CGUYS] Anyone get an email from Reunion.com saying someone is searching for you?

[Jeff Wright]

We got some in at my work.  I blacklisted them.

Here's what others are saying:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=reunion.com+spam

> -Original Message-
> Anyone here get an email recently from Reunion.com, saying that someone
> is searching for you there?  


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Re: [CGUYS] Norton SystemWorks

[John Settle]

Pardon the additional post. If you decide to uninstall NSW, be sure to 
visit their website and get the most current uninstaller. You can be in 
a world of hurt otherwise.


Matthew Taylor wrote:
I would never suggest either Norton or McCaffee - they are in my 
opinion bloat-ware of a high order.


Take a look at Trend Micro, or AVG for leaner, and in my experience 
more effective, protection.


Matthew

On Apr 10, 2008, at 9:46 PM, Christopher Range wrote:
I just re-installed NSW.  It says I have 172 days left on the 
subscription.  When I try to update, it won't update.


Before anyone suggests McCaffee, it won't work on my computer 
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Re: [CGUYS] Norton SystemWorks

[John Settle]

I would second Matthew's suggestion. I have used trend Micro at the 
office and AVG at home for some years now.

I am much happier having dumped Norton and McAffee.

John Settle

Matthew Taylor wrote:
I would never suggest either Norton or McCaffee - they are in my 
opinion bloat-ware of a high order.


Take a look at Trend Micro, or AVG for leaner, and in my experience 
more effective, protection.


Matthew

On Apr 10, 2008, at 9:46 PM, Christopher Range wrote:
I just re-installed NSW.  It says I have 172 days left on the 
subscription.  When I try to update, it won't update.


Before anyone suggests McCaffee, it won't work on my computer 
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Re: [CGUYS] Anyone get an email from Reunion.com saying someone is searching for you?

[Ranbo]

Yes, but isn't it good advice for the recipient of such an unsolicited
email?  Suppose 95% of them are legit, doesn't this open one up to this sort
of annoyance (I'm emailing everyone in my address book not to go to this
site, taking some time) or worse, e.g. viruses, etc.?

Randall

On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 2:37 PM, Tony B <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Well, no, that's not good advice for any of us that make public
> contact. We have to check all our email because you never know where a
> legit email will come from.
>
> I got one from somewhere last week (not reunion.com). I opened it. I
> appreciate the heads up, and they weren't asking for money or
> anything. I actually changed one of my profiles after the reminder.
>
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> >  Think I've again and, hopefully, finally, learned the lesson: to NEVER
> click on a site in an email that is unsolicited and not from someone I know.
> Would that not be universally applicable, good advice for everyone?
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Re: [CGUYS] Anyone get an email from Reunion.com saying someone is searching for you?

[Tony B]

Well, no, that's not good advice for any of us that make public
contact. We have to check all our email because you never know where a
legit email will come from.

I got one from somewhere last week (not reunion.com). I opened it. I
appreciate the heads up, and they weren't asking for money or
anything. I actually changed one of my profiles after the reminder.


>  Think I've again and, hopefully, finally, learned the lesson: to NEVER click 
> on a site in an email that is unsolicited and not from someone I know. Would 
> that not be universally applicable, good advice for everyone?


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Re: [CGUYS] Signs of the arrival of FIOS

[Art Clemons]

Scott McClure:

1) With all the recent list discussion of the removal of the POTS copper lines 
during a FIOS installation, what is the make-up of the lines that run along the 
poles after the work that I am seeing performed?


Verizon tends to leave the copper lines in place unless of course an 
entire neighborhood switched to fiber, thus the optical lines for FIOS 
add to what is on your poles.



2) Does the old copper remain on the poles to provide service to homes along 
the way that aren't switched to FIOS?


Once again, yes, Verizon only removes the feed from the old copper 
landline connection point to the house or residence.  If you have two or 
more phone lines and only one is switched to fiber, the other line(s)
presently remain hooked up to the copper landlines and the battery chain 
which provides the 48 volts or so.  Personally I'ld suggest anyone 
worried about losing connectivity after the UPS for FIOS runs out, get 
or keep a 2nd line with as minimum a service as possible (look up 
lifesaver line on Verizon's website for an idea of what I mean).  Calls 
made to that number are free and it leaves one with a backup as long as 
the phone lines work if you have a corded phone that doesn't require 
batteries.


All of this being said, I suspect that folks could set up alternate 
charging arrangements for the battery used by the UPS Verizon provides 
or alternatively, replacing the UPS with one of your own.  Solar 
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Re: [CGUYS] Anyone get an email from Reunion.com saying someone is searching for you?

[slogan2k1]

I did receive one this morning, Randall.  Fortunately, I did not open it, but 
your word to the wise is always appreciated.  Now, I should probably add it to 
my "block" list.

  Thanks.
   
  Susan
  
Randall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  Anyone here get an email recently from Reunion.com, saying that someone is 
searching for you there? I recently got such an email and stupidly clicked on 
the link and registered for their free service to see who this person was (name 
was given, didn't recognize it, but thought she might be going under a married 
name I don't know). I had no intention and no knowledge, until after-the-fact, 
that apparently every email address in my Gmail address book would receive such 
an invitation, one that said I was looking for the recipient on Reunion.com! 

I called the number listed and had a long talk with a customer representative 
and her supervisor at Reunion.com, which is an actual, legitimate site, 
apparently. This was all part of a recent promotion, but the site is apparently 
set up to virtually assure that all of one's email contacts will receive such 
emails if they register, EVEN IF, as I did, one clicks on the "skip this step" 
button. The supervisor changed her story several times, but finally said 
something to the effect that if you do not affirmatively tell them NOT to 
contact everyone in your address book, they take that as an implied 
authorization for them to do so, even though obviously one would not need to 
search for anyone whose email address they already have! Needless to say, I 
communicated my displeasure about these tactics and asked that she forward my 
strong suggestion that they change these tactics, and even suggested that what 
they are doing seems legally questionable and that I might contact the
 appropriate regulatory authorities, such as the FCC. 

So I strongly encourage you to NOT click on the site in the email or visit this 
site, period. If you have already done this, they did say that the invitations 
only go out one time, and this is NOT a virus or anything that should affect 
your computer, at least from what the supervisor said, and their contact 
information is listed on the site (in Virginia). I am alerting the over a 
thousand persons in my address book about this.

I wonder whether their promotion tactics are legal. Isn't this, in effect, just 
like what a virus might do? Is this a way to legally spam people? Thinking 
about creating a website to alert people to this; maybe something like 
DONTGOTOREUNIONDOTCOM. Or are there existing watchdog sites it would be good to 
post such an alert to?

Think I've again and, hopefully, finally, learned the lesson: to NEVER click on 
a site in an email that is unsolicited and not from someone I know. Would that 
not be universally applicable, good advice for everyone?

Thanks,

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[CGUYS] Anyone get an email from Reunion.com saying someone is searching for you?

[Randall]

Anyone here get an email recently from Reunion.com, saying that someone is 
searching for you there?  I recently got such an email  and stupidly clicked on 
the link and registered for their free service to see who this person was (name 
was given, didn't recognize it, but thought she might be going under a married 
name I don't know).   I had no intention and no knowledge, until 
after-the-fact, that apparently every email address in my Gmail address book 
would receive such an invitation, one that said I was looking for the recipient 
on Reunion.com!   

I called the number listed and had a long talk with a customer representative 
and her supervisor at  Reunion.com, which is an actual, legitimate site, 
apparently.  This was all part of a recent promotion, but the site is 
apparently set up to virtually assure that all of one's email contacts will 
receive such emails if they register, EVEN IF, as I did, one clicks on the 
"skip this step" button.  The supervisor changed her story several times, but 
finally said something to the effect that if you do not affirmatively tell them 
NOT to contact everyone in your address book, they take that as an implied 
authorization for them to do so, even though obviously one would not need to 
search for anyone whose email address they already have!  Needless to say, I 
communicated my displeasure about these tactics and asked that she forward my 
strong suggestion that they change these tactics, and even suggested that what 
they are doing seems legally questionable and that I might contact the 
appropriate regulatory authorities, such as the FCC.  

So I  strongly encourage you to NOT click on the site in the email or visit 
this site, period.If you have already done this, they did say that the 
invitations only go out one time, and this is NOT a virus or anything that 
should affect your computer, at least from what the supervisor said, and their 
contact information is listed on the site (in Virginia).  I am alerting the 
over a thousand persons in my address book about this.

I wonder whether their promotion tactics are legal.  Isn't this, in effect, 
just like what a virus  might do?  Is this a way to legally spam people?  
Thinking about creating a website to alert people to this; maybe something like 
DONTGOTOREUNIONDOTCOM.  Or are there existing watchdog sites it would be good 
to post such an alert to?

Think I've again and, hopefully, finally, learned the lesson:  to NEVER click 
on a site in an email that is unsolicited and not from someone I know.  Would 
that not be universally applicable, good advice for everyone?

Thanks,

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Re: [CGUYS] Norton SystemWorks

[Christopher Range]

John Duncan Yoyo wrote:


Could be you are already infected and that is blocking Norton from starting.  
Try an online virus scan- something like
.  I'm sure people have opinions about 
these things here.

Norton will start without any problem.  It is when I run LiveUpdate, 
that the problem occurs.  It seemingly downloads the updates.  That is 
until, it gives me a error message with a code number and a link.  I 
can't remember the code number right now, but, when clicking on it, it 
will go to a page at Norton that instructs how to run LiveUpdate, that way.


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Re: [CGUYS] Norton SystemWorks

[Matthew Taylor]

I would never suggest either Norton or McCaffee - they are in my  
opinion bloat-ware of a high order.


Take a look at Trend Micro, or AVG for leaner, and in my experience  
more effective, protection.


Matthew

On Apr 10, 2008, at 9:46 PM, Christopher Range wrote:
I just re-installed NSW.  It says I have 172 days left on the  
subscription.  When I try to update, it won't update.


Before anyone suggests McCaffee, it won't work on my computer  
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[CGUYS] Gartner - Windows Collapsing

[Snyder, Mark (IT Civilian)]

http://www.computerworld.com.au/index.php/id;1870375122;fp;;fpid;;pf;1

"Calling the situation "untenable" and describing Windows as
"collapsing," a pair of Gartner analysts this week said Microsoft must
make radical changes to the operating system or risk becoming a
has-been."

Thank you,
 
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Re: [CGUYS] Norton SystemWorks

[John Duncan Yoyo]

Could be you are already infected and that is blocking Norton from
starting.  Try an online virus scan- something like
.  I'm sure people have
opinions about these things here.

On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 9:46 PM, Christopher Range <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I just re-installed NSW.  It says I have 172 days left on the subscription.
> When I try to update, it won't update.
>
>  Before anyone suggests McCaffee, it won't work on my computer because, I
> tried it several months ago.
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Re: [CGUYS] Signs of the arrival of FIOS

[John Duncan Yoyo]

I watched the installation in my neighborhood.  They wrapped the fiber
line around the existing POTS lines.  It was sort of cool there was a
spinner that wrapped the fiber around the line as it was pulled down
the line by a guy in a cherry picker bucket at line height from a
moving truck.  They bury the main lines and hook in to them where
convenient.

The black boxes on the line are distribution points where they can
hook up four lines to houses.  When they hooked my house up it was
just one guy and a ladder who hooked up a line which was roughly twice
as long as needed so he could pull the line up to roof height on the
other end.  They stored the extra line coiled in the box on the
outside of the house since it has a special connector on each end that
they simply plug into the box on the outside wall..

It took them about six months to offer FIOS from when I saw the first
signs of installation.

On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 9:16 AM, Scott McClure <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> While walking my dogs the other evening I noticed that many of the utility 
> poles in my subdivision have looped or coiled black cables taped onto them.  
> Some of the coils have an end that goes up to the level where the phone lines 
> are installed.  I took a look at one loop of cable and it had a red plastic 
> "Verizon" marker.  The cable sheath has "Corning Optical" and some other 
> markings.  Some of the cables run into rectangular boxes that are about 2ft 
> long.
>
>  The next day I looked around some more and it appears that the newer cable 
> has been installed along quite a lot of the runs in the few blocks around my 
> house.  My guess is that FIOS is being installed in my subdivision, but I am 
> curious about two things:
>
>  1) With all the recent list discussion of the removal of the POTS copper 
> lines during a FIOS installation, what is the make-up of the lines that run 
> along the poles after the work that I am seeing performed?
>
>  2) Does the old copper remain on the poles to provide service to homes along 
> the way that aren't switched to FIOS?
>
>  Thanks,
>
>  Scott
>
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[CGUYS] Signs of the arrival of FIOS

[Scott McClure]

While walking my dogs the other evening I noticed that many of the utility 
poles in my subdivision have looped or coiled black cables taped onto them.  
Some of the coils have an end that goes up to the level where the phone lines 
are installed.  I took a look at one loop of cable and it had a red plastic 
"Verizon" marker.  The cable sheath has "Corning Optical" and some other 
markings.  Some of the cables run into rectangular boxes that are about 2ft 
long.

The next day I looked around some more and it appears that the newer cable has 
been installed along quite a lot of the runs in the few blocks around my house. 
 My guess is that FIOS is being installed in my subdivision, but I am curious 
about two things:  

1) With all the recent list discussion of the removal of the POTS copper lines 
during a FIOS installation, what is the make-up of the lines that run along the 
poles after the work that I am seeing performed?

2) Does the old copper remain on the poles to provide service to homes along 
the way that aren't switched to FIOS?

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