Re: [CGUYS] installing itunes or firefox ... which one should I do?

[Vicky Staubly]

On Mon, 14 Jul 2008, mike wrote:

To say these programs will never interfere with your current setup is
playing with fate...so I'll just say installing firefox should not interfere
at all with anything you have going on that machine.  At install time you
can either choose to import your bookmarks...or not into the new browser.
You can still use internet explorer as much as you like and firefox as
little as you need to.


One more tip: If you want IE to continue to handle the URLs/links that
you click on in other programs (email, etc.), then, when Firefox asks
if you want to make it the "default browser", then say NO. On the other
hand, Firefox is the default browser on my WinXP machine at work, and it
seems to work fine for me. But, if you want to change things as little as
possible...


On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 11:22 PM, Elaine Zablocki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

A group I belong to is offering information, and in order to access this
information  I need to install either iTtunes or Firefox.

I'm currently using Windows XP Home and Internet Explorer 6.0.2900.2180. I
am trying to avoid adding new, unfamiliar programs because of the risk they
will interfere with my current system. My computer was built in December,
2004 and right now all my programs are about the same vintage and work well
together.

The group's computer guy tells me:
"...i am sure that they [tech experts] will recommend that you start using
firefox instead of internet explorer. there are no risks involved with
firefox, and it will help you to avoid viruses and all kind of bad things
that internet explorer will not warn you about."

I already have an anti virus program and Zone Alarm... I just don't know
what  unpredictable things Firefox may do to my mix of programs mostly from
2003/2004.  I hesitate to install a brand new program for an essential
function like Web browsing.  This is something I use every day for essential
functions ... if I install Firefox, will something suddenly stop working?

It sounds like I'm going to have to install either itunes or Firefox.  I'm
afraid that either one of them may interfere with my current functions; I'm
afraid that either one of them may take a lot of time that I don't have to
install and learn.

Which one will cause me the least hassle?   Which of the two is easiest to
install... interferes least with other programs?

Many thanks for your advice!!


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Re: [CGUYS] installing itunes or firefox ... which one should I do?

[Tony B]

I had nothing but trouble with iTunes the last time I tried it. But it
uninstalled nicely.

No question you should be using Firefox 3 instead of IE6, but your
question seems odd - iTunes or Firefox??? Firefox is a web browser;
iTunes is well, something else. I'd love to know what 'information'
requires either iTunes or Firefox to acquire?


On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 2:22 AM, Elaine Zablocki
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> A group I belong to is offering information, and in order to access this
> information  I need to install either iTtunes or Firefox.


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Re: [CGUYS] installing itunes or firefox ... which one should I do?

[John Emmerling]

I would assume the OP means Safari.  It seems to get installed as part of
the package when you install or upgrade iTunes.

On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 5:43 AM, Tony B <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I had nothing but trouble with iTunes the last time I tried it. But it
> uninstalled nicely.
>
> No question you should be using Firefox 3 instead of IE6, but your
> question seems odd - iTunes or Firefox??? Firefox is a web browser;
> iTunes is well, something else. I'd love to know what 'information'
> requires either iTunes or Firefox to acquire?
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 2:22 AM, Elaine Zablocki
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> > A group I belong to is offering information, and in order to access this
> > information  I need to install either iTtunes or Firefox.
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Re: [CGUYS] installing itunes or firefox ... which one should I do?

[Chris Dunford]

> A group I belong to is offering information, and in order to access
> this information  I need to install either iTtunes or Firefox.

Like Tony, this choice seems a bit odd to me--it's sort of like saying, in
order to do X you will need either a garden hose or a microwave oven.

In any event, I would definitely go with Firefox over iTunes. My experience
with iTunes has been absolutely horrible. If I were to compile a Top Ten
list of the worst software I've ever used, iTunes would be right up near the
top.  

Firefox, on the other hand, is solid; and it won't interfere with your use
of IE as long as you don't make it the default browser. If it happens to
install itself as the default browser (e.g., Firefox opens when you click
link from an email), just start IE, open Tools->Internet Options->Programs,
and click "Make Default".


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Re: [CGUYS] installing itunes or firefox ... which one should I do?

[gerald]

i use foxpro 3 as a browser.  have been using those products since  ver 0.XXX 
days.  like it a lot better than explorer, but am used to it.

i loaded earlier iTunes, and thought it sucked. my wife convinced me to load 
the latest version of iTunes.  safari did not load onto my pc.  the latest 
version of iTunes is very nice, once you get rid of the apple push to sell 
tunes.  even bot an iPod to use with the iTunes.  very nicely integrated 
package.  best stuff to come out of apple since excel.

foxpro and iTunes do not conflict with anything on my pc with xp.

At 08:40 AM 7/15/2008, you wrote:
>I would assume the OP means Safari.  It seems to get installed as part of
>the package when you install or upgrade iTunes.
>
>On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 5:43 AM, Tony B <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> I had nothing but trouble with iTunes the last time I tried it. But it
>> uninstalled nicely.
>>
>> No question you should be using Firefox 3 instead of IE6, but your
>> question seems odd - iTunes or Firefox??? Firefox is a web browser;
>> iTunes is well, something else. I'd love to know what 'information'
>> requires either iTunes or Firefox to acquire?
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 2:22 AM, Elaine Zablocki
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > A group I belong to is offering information, and in order to access this
>> > information  I need to install either iTtunes or Firefox.
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Re: [CGUYS] Process name (null) on OS X

[JF]

No comments on this issue, eh? I suppose you'd have to be a serious OS X
geek to know about something like this.
What I find when I Google is that it's:
Something to do with the Classic environment, which I've never allowed to
load on the machine.
Some anonymous app that consumes massive amounts of CPU cycles. These apps
are not anonymous since their icons are right there beside the (null), and
they use the CPU about the way I would expect them to.

This is a new(refurb) notebook from Apple running 10.5, so I wonder if it's
a glitch that an update will fix.


On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 7:17 PM, Jordan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> There is a curiosity I've noticed lately. Beside the symbols for the
> Thunderbird, Sunbird, and Audio Hijack applications in Activity Monitor, it
> calls the process name (null) instead of their names. These apps seem to be
> working properly and quitting them a restarting them does not help. I did a
> little Googling and did not find anything helpful except that the system is
> not recognizing their names.
> Does anyone know what's going on?
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Re: [CGUYS] Process name (null) on OS X

[db]

I googled  "Process name (null) on OS X"  and came up with this:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Process+name+%28null%29+on+OS+X&btnG=Google+Search";

I guess  you have already done this because the results seem to refer to 
A Classic environment or apps which doesn't add up in your case...


A mystery...

db

JF wrote:

No comments on this issue, eh? I suppose you'd have to be a serious OS X
geek to know about something like this.
What I find when I Google is that it's:
Something to do with the Classic environment, which I've never allowed to
load on the machine.
Some anonymous app that consumes massive amounts of CPU cycles. These apps
are not anonymous since their icons are right there beside the (null), and
they use the CPU about the way I would expect them to.

This is a new(refurb) notebook from Apple running 10.5, so I wonder if it's
a glitch that an update will fix.


On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 7:17 PM, Jordan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

  

There is a curiosity I've noticed lately. Beside the symbols for the
Thunderbird, Sunbird, and Audio Hijack applications in Activity Monitor, it
calls the process name (null) instead of their names. These apps seem to be
working properly and quitting them a restarting them does not help. I did a
little Googling and did not find anything helpful except that the system is
not recognizing their names.
Does anyone know what's going on?





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Re: [CGUYS] installing itunes or firefox ... which one should I

[Tom Piwowar]

>foxpro and iTunes do not conflict with anything on my pc with xp.

Me too with FireFox. My PC is about the same vintage as yours. In this 
case the fact that MS did not produce a new version of Windows for so 
many years is an advantage because your old OS is still quite up to date 
(assuming you have kept your patches up to date).

Firefox has never been a problem. It is not one of those applications 
that makes bunches of changes to your computer. If it is not running it 
is completely off so you have control over it. There are minor settings 
it can change, like making itself your default web browser, but such 
settings are easy to change. Overall I think FireFox works better then IE.

iTunes is okay, but is a different Story. Apple is trying to show Windows 
users how much easier a Mac is to use than a PC. To do it Apple had to do 
a lot of fancy programming. iTunes tries to do things on a PC that are 
not so simple. Consequently the early versions of iTunes did have some 
glitches. Apple haters will constantly remind you of the old problems and 
not mention that recent versions work well.

All in all FireFox will be the safer bet because it is simpler.

On the other hand you may really enjoy iTunes. Besides the store, iTunes 
provides access to 1s of free podcasts covering a tremendous range of 
material. For example it has become one of the best places to learn a 
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Re: [CGUYS] installing itunes or firefox ... which one should I do?

[Elaine Zablocki]

At 02:43 AM 7/15/2008, Tony B wrote:

No question you should be using Firefox 3 instead of IE6, but your
question seems odd - iTunes or Firefox??? Firefox is a web browser;
iTunes is well, something else. I'd love to know what 'information'
requires either iTunes or Firefox to acquire?


Since 1987 I've been a student of Buddhist teacher Sogyal Rinpoche, 
the author of The Tibetan  Book of Living and Dying.  (The book 
includes  chapters on meditation, compassion, how to help the dying, 
how to help people after death.)  His organization is called Rigpa, 
and the web site is:

www.rigpa.org/

Rigpa also has a program of Spiritual Care for the Dying, to improve 
end-of-life care for everyone, not just Buddhists. It offers a 
training course for caregivers.

http://www.spcare.org/
http://www.townsendletter.com/May2004/pathways0504.htm

There's also a web site for students (not available to public 
access)  and Rigpa has just announced that they're going to post 
short audio snips of teachings on this web site, so people can listen 
whenever they have a spare five minutes.  In order to access these 
teachings, you need to have either iTtunes or Firefox installed, so 
you can download the files to your computer.  I don't know why they 
set it up this way!  I wish they had just posted them as MP3 files 
 I download MP3s all the time from Live Music Archives (and 
continually appreciate JetAudio, which Tom P.  recommended on this 
list two or three years ago.)


Many thanks for the information you've posted ... it's just what I 
need!!  Especially that Firefox will import my current links, and 
that I don't have to make it my default browser.  I guess I'll backup 
my current program drive, and then give it a try.



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Re: [CGUYS] Tom: "I just renewed my candy-bar Nokia 6010 for a

[db]

I don't understand Tom.  You say $75/ yr. for 1150 mins. from T-Mobile. 
 Don't you mean $75/ mo.?


db

Tom Piwowar wrote:
I am interested in knowing the name of your current cell phone  
company, and why you made the switch (assuming that "renewed"  
indicates that you switched, not that you purchased a year's worth of  
time), and details of your plan (unless of course, you consider my  
request unseemly prying).



Nope. I'm still with TMobile. I purchased a year's more time: 1150 
minutes for $100 plus my unused minutes rolled over. So far I'm buying 
$50 and $100 in alternating years so I'm averaging $75/year for cell 
service.



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Re: [CGUYS] installing itunes or firefox ... which one should I

[Chris Dunford]

> Apple haters will constantly remind you of the old problems
> [with iTunes] and not mention that recent versions work well.

Sigh.

1) I am not an Apple hater. I don't even know any Apple haters. I believe
that Apple makes, for the most part, very fine products. Your continuing
references to "Apple haters" reminds me of nothing so much as some
conservatives' view of anyone who disagrees with them as "America haters".

I do hate iTunes. That is not Apple. It is one Apple product.

2) It WAS a recent version of iTunes that I had so much trouble with. In
fact, it was the current version as of a month or so ago. I had that same
amount of trouble with it (to wit, constant and endless) as I have had with
every other Windows version of iTunes that I've tried.  It is, as far as I
can tell, a very, very poorly written piece of software.


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Re: [CGUYS] installing itunes or firefox ... which one should I

[Steve at Verizon]

Let me put in my plug for iTunes as well.
I didn't think I would have any interest in the iTunes Store, as I am 
purely a jazz and classics guy. But surprisingly, I have found a great 
collection of these genres and have found myself purchasing occasionally.


iTunes Store is also great for finding and subscribing to podcasts. Also 
iTunes U has some great college courses for free.


I fought the iPod player for several years (Irivers, etc.) but succumbed 
to the Nano and Shuffle (primarily for audiobooks). Of course, iTunes is 
best for managing iPods (is there any other (PC) choice?) (Another 
reason I went with iPods/iTunes was that I just hated the Windows Media 
Player!, and WinAmp just didn't cut it for me)


I do use the Radio feature for radio streaming, but it doesn't have the 
greatest lists and is hard to add to. Anyone recommend a good easy to 
use streaming radio app for the PC?


On the other hand you may really enjoy iTunes. Besides the store, iTunes 
provides access to 1s of free podcasts covering a tremendous range of 
material. For example it has become one of the best places to learn a 
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Re: [CGUYS] installing itunes or firefox ... which one should I

[mike]

Well the problem is, with Tom you are either a nice party loyalist, or you
get shipped to Siberia, there are no free thinkers comrade Dunford!

Mike

On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 8:42 AM, Chris Dunford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> > Apple haters will constantly remind you of the old problems
> > [with iTunes] and not mention that recent versions work well.
>
> Sigh.
>
> 1) I am not an Apple hater. I don't even know any Apple haters. I believe
> that Apple makes, for the most part, very fine products. Your continuing
> references to "Apple haters" reminds me of nothing so much as some
> conservatives' view of anyone who disagrees with them as "America haters".
>
> I do hate iTunes. That is not Apple. It is one Apple product.
>
> 2) It WAS a recent version of iTunes that I had so much trouble with. In
> fact, it was the current version as of a month or so ago. I had that same
> amount of trouble with it (to wit, constant and endless) as I have had with
> every other Windows version of iTunes that I've tried.  It is, as far as I
> can tell, a very, very poorly written piece of software.
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Re: [CGUYS] installing itunes or firefox ... which one should I

[Elaine Zablocki]

At 09:05 AM 7/15/2008, you wrote:
I do use the Radio feature for radio streaming, but it doesn't have 
the greatest lists and is hard to add to. Anyone recommend a good 
easy to use streaming radio app for the PC?


This isn't an application, but it is a wonderful resource if you want 
to find out what sort of music is available online.


http://jrabold.net/radio/index.htm

It lists all the music programs available on public radio internet, 
with the times they are available online, and live links to the 
stations. I mean, you can find the complete week's schedule for a 
program you like, or you can find all the music programs that happen 
to be playing at any particular time.


You can listen in real time, and you can also use JetAudio to save 
anything you're listening to, to your hard drive as an audio file... 
limited file formats available in the free version, more formats 
available in the full version.



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Re: [CGUYS] installing itunes or firefox ... which one should I

[Tom Piwowar]

>1) I am not an Apple hater.

I was not referring to you specifically. 

I suspend your sentence and you may now depart the gulag.


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Re: [CGUYS] Tom: "I just renewed my candy-bar Nokia 6010 for a

[Tom Piwowar]

>I don't understand Tom.  You say $75/ yr. for 1150 mins. from T-Mobile. 
>  Don't you mean $75/ mo.?

I say what I mean and I mean what I say. $75 per year.


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Re: [CGUYS] Tom: "I just renewed my candy-bar Nokia 6010 for a

[db]

Is that for 1150 mins / yr.?

(I have been with T-Mobile for several  years and pay $45.99/ mo. (not 
counting taxes) or  $551.88/ yr for 1000 mins. / mo which amounts to 
12,000 mins. / yr.). 


db.

Tom Piwowar wrote:
I don't understand Tom.  You say $75/ yr. for 1150 mins. from T-Mobile. 
 Don't you mean $75/ mo.?



I say what I mean and I mean what I say. $75 per year.


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Re: [CGUYS] Tom: "I just renewed my candy-bar Nokia 6010 for a

[Judy Cosler]

well, what's the plan???
don't know what to look for on t-mobile site!

Tom Piwowar wrote:

I don't understand Tom.  You say $75/ yr. for 1150 mins. from T-Mobile.
 Don't you mean $75/ mo.?



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Re: [CGUYS] Tom: "I just renewed my candy-bar Nokia 6010 for a

[mike]

home/plans/prepaid...

http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/plans/

Mike

On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 12:54 PM, Judy Cosler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> well, what's the plan???
> don't know what to look for on t-mobile site!
>
>
> Tom Piwowar wrote:
>
>> I don't understand Tom.  You say $75/ yr. for 1150 mins. from T-Mobile.
>>>  Don't you mean $75/ mo.?
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Re: [CGUYS] installing itunes or firefox ... which one should I

[Steve Rigby]

On Jul 15, 2008, at 12:05 PM, Steve at Verizon wrote:

I do use the Radio feature for radio streaming, but it doesn't have  
the greatest lists and is hard to add to. Anyone recommend a good  
easy to use streaming radio app for the PC?


  Winamp?

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Re: [CGUYS] Process name (null) on OS X

[David K Watson]

Have you tried running "top" in Terminal to see if the process
names show up there?  This will give us a little more information
on how deep the problem goes, and it is also a partial substitute
for Activity Monitor.  You can read about it at





You could also try these things, in order:

Try logging in as another user or Guest, and see what happens.
If Activity Monitor works for other users, see what startup items
you have running.

Ordinarily it doesn't do much good, but this looks like a good
time to launch Disk Utility.app (in the Applications/Utilities
folder) and verify your hard disk and repair its permissions.

Boot into Safe Mode and see if the problem persists there.  If
Activity Monitor works there, then the problem is most likely
due to a kernel extension you added or a startup item.

Finally, you might try updating/reinstalling/uninstalling Audio Hijack,
since it reportedly has caused various bizarre system problems.


Give us more information:  which version OS X are you using?
Have you done any system "enhancements" besides Audio
Hijack, such as Application Enhancer (APE) from Unsanity?


David



Date:Mon, 14 Jul 2008 19:17:44 -0400
From:Jordan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Process name (null) on OS X

There is a curiosity I've noticed lately. Beside the symbols for the
Thunderbird, Sunbird, and Audio Hijack applications in Activity  
Monitor,
it calls the process name (null) instead of their names. These apps  
seem

to be working properly and quitting them a restarting them does not
help. I did a little Googling and did not find anything helpful except
that the system is not recognizing their names.
Does anyone know what's going on?



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Re: [CGUYS] Tom: "I just renewed my candy-bar Nokia 6010 for a

[Tom Piwowar]

>http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/plans/

That be the one. They call it "Pay As You Go." It is the best deal I have 
seen.

T


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Re: [CGUYS] Process name (null) on OS X

[Tom Piwowar]

>No comments on this issue, eh? I suppose you'd have to be a serious OS X
>geek to know about something like this.

No geeks here, just fan bois and glitterati.


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Re: [CGUYS] Tom: "I just renewed my candy-bar Nokia 6010 for a

[db]

I don't see a "Pay as you Go" there.Do you mean Flex Pay or Prepaid?

And is your plan for 1150 mins per yr. or per month?

db

Tom Piwowar wrote:

http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/plans/



That be the one. They call it "Pay As You Go." It is the best deal I have 
seen.


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Re: [CGUYS] Tom: "I just renewed my candy-bar Nokia 6010 for a

[Tom Piwowar]

>(I have been with T-Mobile for several  years and pay $45.99/ mo. (not 
>counting taxes) or  $551.88/ yr for 1000 mins. / mo which amounts to 
>12,000 mins. / yr.). 

What the heck are you doing that you yack on the phone for 1000 minutes a 
month? 1000 minutes is almost 17 hours!

I admit that I am probably an extreme case. 1150 minutes per year is 
slightly over 3 minutes a day. Most of my calls last under a minute. I 
often use SMS instead of calling. There are many days when I do not use 
the cell phone at all.


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Re: [CGUYS] Process name (null) on OS X

[Stephen Brownfield]

I am running 10.4.11 and do not have this problem. I run Thunderbird, 
but not  Audio Hijack (I use WireTap Pro) and Sunbird (I am now looking 
at it thanks to you).  What OS are you running?  Do you know if you have 
always had this problem or is it new?


Steve


Jordan wrote:
There is a curiosity I've noticed lately. Beside the symbols for the 
Thunderbird, Sunbird, and Audio Hijack applications in Activity 
Monitor, it calls the process name (null) instead of their names. 
These apps seem to be working properly and quitting them a restarting 
them does not help. I did a little Googling and did not find anything 
helpful except that the system is not recognizing their names.

Does anyone know what's going on?


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Re: [CGUYS] Tom: "I just renewed my candy-bar Nokia 6010 for a

[Rev. Stewart Marshall]

I have 700 minutes but that is shred between 4 people.  If I had only 
myself and my wife to worry about I would have prepaid had for many 
years and it served me well.


My middle son uses his Cell phone like a regular phone.  He has no 
landline where he lives.  My wife and him talk daily so those calls are free.


My youngest (when he gets out of basic Training) will also have his 
phone as a landline so much use.


My wife and I sms most of the time and that is not a bog 
deal.  However I must have my phone ready for calls at any time as I 
am an on call type of employee.  (24x7x365)


Many young folks use their cells like a land line and that is where 
the Cell companies are rolling in the profit.


Stewart

At 06:57 PM 7/15/2008, you wrote:

What the heck are you doing that you yack on the phone for 1000 minutes a
month? 1000 minutes is almost 17 hours!

I admit that I am probably an extreme case. 1150 minutes per year is
slightly over 3 minutes a day. Most of my calls last under a minute. I
often use SMS instead of calling. There are many days when I do not use
the cell phone at all.


Rev. Stewart A. Marshall
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Prince of Peace
Ozark, AL  SL 82


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Re: [CGUYS] Tom: "I just renewed my candy-bar Nokia 6010 for a

[db]

I use my cell as my phone for business and personal uses.

Some of my business is solely conducted over the phone.  Any single 
phone call of mine can easily last 3 mins.   I generally use between 600 
and 1000 minutes per month and that is less than a lot of my consultant 
biz friends use.  I'm not sure but maybe I am in the middle to upper end 
of the cell usage spectrum...


You do seem to be an extreme case on the low end when it comes to phone 
calls.  You must do a lot pf comm. as a consultant by email.


I still can't find "Pay as you go" plans on T-Mobile.   I  pay my 
monthly bill every month... is that Pay as you Go?  or is what you have 
cheaper?


db



Tom Piwowar wrote:
(I have been with T-Mobile for several  years and pay $45.99/ mo. (not 
counting taxes) or  $551.88/ yr for 1000 mins. / mo which amounts to 
12,000 mins. / yr.). 



What the heck are you doing that you yack on the phone for 1000 minutes a 
month? 1000 minutes is almost 17 hours!


I admit that I am probably an extreme case. 1150 minutes per year is 
slightly over 3 minutes a day. Most of my calls last under a minute. I 
often use SMS instead of calling. There are many days when I do not use 
the cell phone at all.



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Re: [CGUYS] Tom: "I just renewed my candy-bar Nokia 6010 for a

[b_s-wilk]

Nokia 6010--like a Shure microphone--tough enough to hammer nails [well, 
brads or #4 finishing nails]--great phone, but doesn't do well inside a 
Big Gulp.


I gave my 6010 to my husband after unlocking it. He pays about $50 a 
year with 7-11 SpeakOut. All of their refills $25 and above expire in a 
year, and unused minutes roll over. SpeakOut uses the AT&T network and 
has better coverage where we live. T-Mobile minutes are 5 cents cheaper, 
but who cares if you only make one or two short calls a week.


I have the cheapest T-Mobile plan using an unlocked Nokia 3220, and an 
unlocked Moto SLVR for travel, and am considering switching to the same 
PAYGO plan as Tom's instead of the contract. I kept the contract for 
international calling--actually, texting--while overseas, but am getting 
a free prepaid SIM from United Mobile through MoneyBookers.com as soon 
as I decide whether to have a number in the UK or Lichtenstein, 
http://www.united-mobile.com/moneybookers/?l=en.


Betty

>I am interested in knowing the name of your current cell phone  
>company, and why you made the switch (assuming that "renewed"  
>indicates that you switched, not that you purchased a year's worth of  
>time), and details of your plan (unless of course, you consider my  
>request unseemly prying).


Nope. I'm still with TMobile. I purchased a year's more time: 1150 
minutes for $100 plus my unused minutes rolled over. So far I'm buying 
$50 and $100 in alternating years so I'm averaging $75/year for cell 
service.



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Re: [CGUYS] installing itunes or firefox ... which one should I

[b_s-wilk]

Both iTunes and Firefox work well on our old Dell with W2000 Pro and a 
2007 Compaq notebook with Vista. Keep both programs up to date and 
they'll be fine.


After using Firefox for a short time, you'll be glad to make it your 
default browser instead of IE.


Betty


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[CGUYS] Problem with Outlook Express 6.0

[Colin Cody]

Today, suddenly my Outlook Express 6.0 running under MS XP service pack 2 
stopped recognizing a double click or a right click for email attachments.


Meaning that I can not open the attachments and I can not even save the
attachments to disc with a right click, to then open from the disc.

I found that I am able to save the attachments by doing: File / Save 
Attachments. This is not a satisfactory fix to the problem though


What I have done so far:

I've tried deleting all the files in the directory C:\Programs\Outlook
Express.  With the intent of copying a set of files from another computer.
But as soon as I delete them the system "magically" re-creates than all over
again.  The problem still exists.

I've just deleted about 10,000 email messages, thinking maybe too many
messages could be the problem (I may have 100's of  thousands of
messages, for all I know)  The problem still exists.

I tried to download OE service pack #1 from the Microsoft website.  The
message was that my current copy is newer than the download, permission
denied.

Of course I've shut down the computer (for an hour) and then booted.
I rebooted several times today.   The problem still exists.

I have a backup on my Windows Home Server, but I do not know what files or
directories to restore to get yesterday's copy of Outlook Express 6.0 or
whatever the offending issue is.

No, I have not installed any new software today.

Yes, I have Symantec Antivirus running all the time.

Yes, I have just run a "quick scan" from Symantec Antivirus.

Any ideas?

Colin


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Re: [CGUYS] Tom: "I just renewed my candy-bar Nokia 6010 for a

[Richard P.]

Type in "Pay as you go" in T-Mobile's search box and you'll see it under 
T-Mobile Prepaid plans.


Richard P.


I still can't find "Pay as you go" plans on T-Mobile.   I  pay my 
monthly bill every month... is that Pay as you Go?  or is what you 
have cheaper?



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Re: [CGUYS] "I just renewed my candy-bar Nokia 6010 for a

[b_s-wilk]

Click on Prepaid at the top of http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/plans/, you 
go here, http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/plans/#Prepaid. Then click on "See 
Rates"

http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/plans/Default.aspx?plancategory=4.

Click on Pay As You Go, expand, and you'll see the cheapest rates around 
with longest expiration times. If you use your phone infrequently, 
T-Mobile and SpeakOut GSM plans are best.




I don't see a "Pay as you Go" there.Do you mean Flex Pay or Prepaid?

And is your plan for 1150 mins per yr. or per month?

db

Tom Piwowar wrote:

http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/plans/



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[CGUYS] Radio streaming [was: installing itunes or firefox ... ]

[b_s-wilk]

There isn't one app that works for all streams. Although I prefer to use 
a standalone player, usually iTunes, WM Player or RealPlayer, many radio 
streams open in pop-up windows in a browser, using Flash as an envelope 
for WM or MP3 streams. That way you can bookmark each stream. A useful 
resource to find radio stations, their web sites and stream links is 
http://radio-locator.com/. Lists of public radio stations, programs, 
their schedules and stream links are at http://www.publicradiofan.com/.


Since the pop-up windows have URLs, I can add them to my calendar and 
have favorite radio stations open automatically in a browser on my own 
schedule, without having to write extra scripts.


Betty


I do use the Radio feature for radio streaming, but it doesn't have the 
greatest lists and is hard to add to. Anyone recommend a good easy to use 
streaming radio app for the PC?


This isn't an application, but it is a wonderful resource if you want to find 
out what sort of music is available online.

http://jrabold.net/radio/index.htm

It lists all the music programs available on public radio internet, with the times they are available online, and live links to the stations. I mean, you can find the complete week's schedule for a program you like, or you can find all the music programs that happen to be playing at any particular time. 



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