Re: [CGUYS] Low battery voltage warning?
When I unplug most of the USB devices computer starts up normally. If not, I keep getting the low system voltage message, though now usually when I hit F1 (as it says; to continue) it starts up. Have repeated this experiment 4 or 5 times now. Still haven't replaced the battery. Should I still replace it with the Dell replacement I've got or does this mean it is the power supply? Also, volume for speakers has been low for about a month. Would this be a related problem? Thanks Randall On Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 7:48 AM, Mike Sloane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "refurbished" is a technicality used in the the consumer goods business. > Legally, they cannot sell something as "new" if the produce was offered for > sale (i.e. sold to a retailer). So if it comes back to the manufacturer for > any reason, even if the package was never opened, it has to be sold as > "refurbished". So cards, power supplies, monitors, etc. that may be > essentially brand new show up as "refurbs" with the warning "may contain > minor cosmetic defects" and/or similar. It is also a way for a manufacturer > to get rid of obsolete inventory after a product change and still keep their > retailers happy that they aren't being sideswiped/undercut by the > manufacture. > > So, yes, you could be getting a brand new battery that is "refurbished". > > Mike > > > Tom Piwowar wrote: > >> BTW, Dell said they only sell refurbished >>> batteries. The cost is only $1.99, but wonder how long this will last. >>> I >>> ordered an extra for a back up. >>> >> >> This sounds suspicious. In my experience batteries do not get refurbished. >> >> >> * >> ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** >> ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** >> * >> >> >> > > * > ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** > ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** > * > * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Low battery voltage warning?
If it's not hard to get to the battery for replacement, I'd go ahead and do it. Reason being, it'll go bad anyway just sitting in a drawer. But, as I predicted on day 1, it likely has nothing to do with your problem. You may not even need to replace the power supply if you don't want. Just get an external powered USB hub (which isn't a bad idea these days anyway). No, low volume is likely an amplifier issue and amps are usually built into the speakers. Try headphones to see if the output level is normal. On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 10:34 AM, Ranbo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > When I unplug most of the USB devices computer starts up normally. If not, > I keep getting the low system voltage message, though now usually when I hit > F1 (as it says; to continue) it starts up. Have repeated this experiment 4 > or 5 times now. Still haven't replaced the battery. Should I still replace > it with the Dell replacement I've got or does this mean it is the power > supply? Also, volume for speakers has been low for about a month. Would > this be a related problem? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Low battery voltage warning?
Thanks, What would an external powered USB hub cost? These problems started after I added an external hard drive for back ups. Could that have been adding one too many things, a straw tipping some balance, so to speak? Randall On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 10:59 AM, Tony B <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If it's not hard to get to the battery for replacement, I'd go ahead > and do it. Reason being, it'll go bad anyway just sitting in a drawer. > > But, as I predicted on day 1, it likely has nothing to do with your > problem. You may not even need to replace the power supply if you > don't want. Just get an external powered USB hub (which isn't a bad > idea these days anyway). > > No, low volume is likely an amplifier issue and amps are usually built > into the speakers. Try headphones to see if the output level is > normal. > > > On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 10:34 AM, Ranbo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > When I unplug most of the USB devices computer starts up normally. If > not, > > I keep getting the low system voltage message, though now usually when I > hit > > F1 (as it says; to continue) it starts up. Have repeated this experiment > 4 > > or 5 times now. Still haven't replaced the battery. Should I still > replace > > it with the Dell replacement I've got or does this mean it is the power > > supply? Also, volume for speakers has been low for about a month. Would > > this be a related problem? > > > * > ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** > ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** > * > * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Low battery voltage warning?
>What would an external powered USB hub cost? These problems started after I >added an external hard drive for back ups. Could that have been adding one >too many things, a straw tipping some balance, so to speak? That sounds very much like a right answer. Before going for a powered hub, doesn't your external hard drive have a power supply? Many do. Or does it have a power socket? Then you have to buy a power supply (about $10). This would solve your problem more directly. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Nerd Boy
Today I passed a van for "Nerd Boy Computer Repairs." Do you think this moniker would make it more difficult for them to hire competent help? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Nerd Boy
Who would work for "Nerd Boy Computer Repairs"? Well, "Nerd Boy" as a job title beats "Unemployed Nobody." The current economic climate is pretty tough. BTW, I'm on the way to becoming an Unemployed Nobody myself, because my job is going away--it's been cut from the budget. My job-hunting efforts haven't yielded results so far. I'm looking for anything in office administration (e.g. administrative assistant, project assistant, project associate), editing, writing, information services, etc., or all of the above. The Washington, D.C. area is supposed to be better than the rest of the country for job-hunters, but I'm still looking. Suggestions, anyone? --Constance Warner On Behalf Of Tom Piwowar Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 12:55 PM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: [CGUYS] Nerd Boy Today I passed a van for "Nerd Boy Computer Repairs." Do you think this moniker would make it more difficult for them to hire competent help? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Nerd Boy
a nerd is a most honorable god position. just below zeus and helios, but above all the rest. have yet to see an mit man person who did not proudly consider himself a nerd. (bernake didn't go to mit, did he?) At 12:54 PM 10/21/2008, you wrote: >Today I passed a van for "Nerd Boy Computer Repairs." > >Do you think this moniker would make it more difficult for them to hire >competent help? > > >* >** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** >** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** >* * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Nerd Boy
> a nerd is a most honorable god position. just below zeus and helios, > but above all the rest. Yeah. And -way- better than "geek." * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Nerd Boy
Well, "Geek Squad" is already taken. "Nerd Herd" is being used on the tv-show "Chuck". That pretty much leaves "People with Pocket Protectors Who Fix Computers" or "Socially Inept But Capable of Fixing Your Computer" or "Just because we wear contact lenses doesn't mean we don't have taped glasses at home" but none of those flow off the tongue very well. -Original Message- From: Computer Guys Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Constance Warner Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 11:54 AM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Nerd Boy Who would work for "Nerd Boy Computer Repairs"? Well, "Nerd Boy" as a job title beats "Unemployed Nobody." The current economic climate is pretty tough. BTW, I'm on the way to becoming an Unemployed Nobody myself, because my job is going away--it's been cut from the budget. My job-hunting efforts haven't yielded results so far. I'm looking for anything in office administration (e.g. administrative assistant, project assistant, project associate), editing, writing, information services, etc., or all of the above. The Washington, D.C. area is supposed to be better than the rest of the country for job-hunters, but I'm still looking. Suggestions, anyone? --Constance Warner On Behalf Of Tom Piwowar Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 12:55 PM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: [CGUYS] Nerd Boy Today I passed a van for "Nerd Boy Computer Repairs." Do you think this moniker would make it more difficult for them to hire competent help? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Nerd Boy
> a nerd is a most honorable god position. just below zeus and helios, > but above all the rest. I think it is the juxtaposition with "boy" that is the problem. "Water boy." OK. "Bat boy." OK "Stock boy." Less good, wants to be a "sales associate." "Fan boy" Not so good. "Soldier boy." Depends who's talking. Could lose some teeth. Call your surgeon "boy" and see what happens. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Nerd Boy
>BTW, I'm on the way to becoming an Unemployed Nobody myself, because my >job is going away--it's been cut from the budget. Oof, that's tough. >The Washington, D.C. area is supposed to be better than >the rest of the country for job-hunters, but I'm still looking. The last few months have been tough. Recently things look to be stabilizing. And there should be a big turn over here in the next few months. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Nerd Boy
>> a nerd is a most honorable god position. just below zeus and helios, >> but above all the rest. >I think it is the juxtaposition with "boy" that is the problem. > >"Water boy." OK. >"Bat boy." OK >"Stock boy." Less good, wants to be a "sales associate." >"Fan boy" Not so good. >"Soldier boy." Depends who's talking. Could lose some teeth. >Call your surgeon "boy" and see what happens. But let's not forget where "Boy" was much, much better than "Man". As Dave Thomas found out in the series "Rocket Boy" where the "Rocket Boy" costume was really cool looking but the "Rocket Man" costume looked somewhat less cool. Larry * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Nerd Boy
In English boy is considered a diminutive appellation. Much like the German ending chen. Many languages use a diminutive to show younger, or smaller of the normal. Names can be used that way also to show younger Adamchecn etc. We in America called our president (Before Regan) Jimmy and did not understand why the world did not use that term. It was considered a diminutive term. (kid or child name not an adult name) I much prefer being called a geek over a nerd. I did not have a pocket protector in my shirt in school, and never ever wore Horn rimmed glasses or fixed the temple with tape. (I preferred the Ray-Ban tear drop look) Stewart At 04:10 PM 10/21/2008, you wrote: But let's not forget where "Boy" was much, much better than "Man". As Dave Thomas found out in the series "Rocket Boy" where the "Rocket Boy" costume was really cool looking but the "Rocket Man" costume looked somewhat less cool. Larry Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Low battery voltage warning?
Replacing the battery wouldn't hurt since you have it. The important aspect is the system does not have enough power to service all the devices now but it did before. Getting a USB hub will only fix the symptom not the cause. This symptom will probably be progressive. At some point the system won't start up at all no matter what you do to compensate. db Tony B wrote: If it's not hard to get to the battery for replacement, I'd go ahead and do it. Reason being, it'll go bad anyway just sitting in a drawer. But, as I predicted on day 1, it likely has nothing to do with your problem. You may not even need to replace the power supply if you don't want. Just get an external powered USB hub (which isn't a bad idea these days anyway). No, low volume is likely an amplifier issue and amps are usually built into the speakers. Try headphones to see if the output level is normal. On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 10:34 AM, Ranbo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: When I unplug most of the USB devices computer starts up normally. If not, I keep getting the low system voltage message, though now usually when I hit F1 (as it says; to continue) it starts up. Have repeated this experiment 4 or 5 times now. Still haven't replaced the battery. Should I still replace it with the Dell replacement I've got or does this mean it is the power supply? Also, volume for speakers has been low for about a month. Would this be a related problem? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Apple Profit
This news headline from Marketwatch should make Tom happy: Apple profit rises 26% as iPod, Mac sales jump iPhone sales reach almost 7 million units By Rex Crum, MarketWatch Last update: 5:16 p.m. EDT Oct. 21, 2008 SAN FRANCISCO (MarketWatch) -- Apple Inc. on Tuesday reported a fiscal fourth-quarter profit that rose 26% from a year ago on revenue of almost $8 billion and increases in sales of its Macintosh computers, iPods and iPhones. Although earnings topped Wall Street analysts' estimates, AAPL 91.36, -7.08, -7.2%) kept with its tradition and delivered a first-quarter outlook that fell below analysts' forecasts, potentially setting the company's stock up for a big decline on Wednesday. Chief Financial Officer Peter Oppenheimer said in a statement that for Apple's fiscal first quarter, the company expects to earn between $1.06 and $1.35 a share on revenue in a range of $9 billion to $10 billion, for what is typically Apple's busiest business period. Such results could end up below what Apple reported in the same quarter a year ago, when it earned $1.58 billion, or $1.76 a share, on $9.6 billion in sales. However, analysts surveyed by FactSet Research had forecast Apple to earn $1.65 a share on $10.6 billion in sales. While Apple is known for exceeding both its own, and Wall Street's estimates, the low-ball outlook, combined with the uneasiness about consumer spending during the holiday season, could drum up more negativity than usual around Apple's stock and its potential for growth next year. Oppenheimer said that Apple would remain "prudent" with its outlook because in the current economic environment, "visibility is low and forecasting is challenging." And Chief Executive Steve Jobs, who typically comments only about how well Apple has done, even gave an opinion about how the current economic uncertainty might affect the company. "We don't yet know how this economic downturn will affect Apple," Jobs said. "But we're armed with the strongest product line in our history. Jobs also said Apple is sitting on "$25 billion of cash safely in the bank with zero debt." For its fourth quarter, Apple said it earned $1.14 billion, or $1.26 a share, on revenue of $7.9 billion, up from of $904 million, or $1.01 a share, on $6.22 billion in sales in the same period a year ago. The results beat the earnings estimates of analysts surveyed by FactSet Research, who forecast Apple to earn $1.10 a share on revenue of $8.02 billion. Apple also exceeded its own estimates for a profit of $1 a share on $7.8 billion in sales. Apple said that when adjusting to eliminate the impact of subscription-based accounting related to certain products, it would have earned $2.44 billion on $11.68 billion in sales. During the quarter that ended Sept. 27, Apple said it sold 2.6 million Mac computers, along with 11 million iPod digital media players. Apple also said it sold 6.9 million iPhones during the quarter, which included the release of the new 3G iPhone, in July. Jobs called the iPhone sales "spectacular" and took a shot at one Apple rival, saying, "We sold more phones than RIM," referring to BlackBerry maker Research In Motion Ltd. End of Story Richard P. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Apple Profit
>This news headline from Marketwatch should make Tom happy: Sad about Yahoo! though. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Low battery voltage warning?
Ten bucks. On a good day. I bought a 10 buck one for my 90 year old mother in law to charge her I-pod. She's still groovin' to her tunes. - Original Message - From: "Ranbo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 12:27 PM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Low battery voltage warning? Thanks, What would an external powered USB hub cost? These problems started after I added an external hard drive for back ups. Could that have been adding one too many things, a straw tipping some balance, so to speak? Randall On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 10:59 AM, Tony B <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: If it's not hard to get to the battery for replacement, I'd go ahead and do it. Reason being, it'll go bad anyway just sitting in a drawer. But, as I predicted on day 1, it likely has nothing to do with your problem. You may not even need to replace the power supply if you don't want. Just get an external powered USB hub (which isn't a bad idea these days anyway). No, low volume is likely an amplifier issue and amps are usually built into the speakers. Try headphones to see if the output level is normal. On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 10:34 AM, Ranbo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > When I unplug most of the USB devices computer starts up normally. If not, > I keep getting the low system voltage message, though now usually when > I hit > F1 (as it says; to continue) it starts up. Have repeated this > experiment 4 > or 5 times now. Still haven't replaced the battery. Should I still replace > it with the Dell replacement I've got or does this mean it is the power > supply? Also, volume for speakers has been low for about a month. > Would > this be a related problem? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] They're soooo COMCASTIC
I think if you examine the log, you may find out that the connection is timing out during the authentication process. The response by your email program to this event is to assume that the password given was incorrect. I've noticed that Comcast's email server has been unresponsive lately. But if I just keep trying to check mail, it eventually works. Not ideal. - John So true, John. It's happened to me several times since I sent the original post and I"m gradually shifting everything over to my gmail or mac accounts. Paula/IN/USA * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Low battery voltage warning?
Okay, so are these my options?: 1) wait and let it fail (presumably even if first unplug all the devices) 2) buy a new power supply 3) buy a new computer? And is the CMOS battery now an irrelevant issue to this problem, as I think you are suggesting? Thanks, Randall On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 12:02 PM, db <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Replacing the battery wouldn't hurt since you have it. The important aspect > is the system does not have enough power to service all the devices now but > it did before. > > Getting a USB hub will only fix the symptom not the cause. > > This symptom will probably be progressive. At some point the system won't > start up at all no matter what you do to compensate. > > db > > > Tony B wrote: > >> If it's not hard to get to the battery for replacement, I'd go ahead >> and do it. Reason being, it'll go bad anyway just sitting in a drawer. >> >> But, as I predicted on day 1, it likely has nothing to do with your >> problem. You may not even need to replace the power supply if you >> don't want. Just get an external powered USB hub (which isn't a bad >> idea these days anyway). >> >> No, low volume is likely an amplifier issue and amps are usually built >> into the speakers. Try headphones to see if the output level is >> normal. >> >> >> On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 10:34 AM, Ranbo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >>> When I unplug most of the USB devices computer starts up normally. If >>> not, >>> I keep getting the low system voltage message, though now usually when I >>> hit >>> F1 (as it says; to continue) it starts up. Have repeated this experiment >>> 4 >>> or 5 times now. Still haven't replaced the battery. Should I still >>> replace >>> it with the Dell replacement I've got or does this mean it is the power >>> supply? Also, volume for speakers has been low for about a month. Would >>> this be a related problem? >>> >>> >> >> >> * >> ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** >> ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** >> * >> >> >> > > > * > ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** > ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** > * > * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Low battery voltage warning?
Yes, the external hard drive has its own power supply, but I'm having this problem with this, so I'm not sure how this solves the problem. Randall On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 12:52 PM, Tom Piwowar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >What would an external powered USB hub cost? These problems started after > I > >added an external hard drive for back ups. Could that have been adding > one > >too many things, a straw tipping some balance, so to speak? > > That sounds very much like a right answer. > > Before going for a powered hub, doesn't your external hard drive have a > power supply? Many do. Or does it have a power socket? Then you have to > buy a power supply (about $10). This would solve your problem more > directly. > > > * > ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** > ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** > * > * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
