Re: [CGUYS] FW: Microsoft posts emergency defense for new attac

2008-10-25 Thread Wayne Dernoncourt
Tom Piwowar
 Wow! An attack that  penetrates firewalls to seek you
 out -- no user action required. I don't see how anyone
 after this -- including WFBs -- can take umbrage when I
 refer to it as crappy software.

  Microsoft says it found evidence two weeks ago of an
  RPC (remote procedure call) attack that can potentially
  infect Windows machines across the Net with no user
  action required.

What is required for this attack to occur?  Does the
victim/user have to visit a website hosting the malware?
(Note the website could be having ads for bandaids that
have the malware as the actual content not the bandaids)

Or can the user sit behind their router (NAT'ed) and be
infected.

Does anyone know if the contents of the ads are actually
screened for malware??

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Re: [CGUYS] FW: Microsoft posts emergency defense for new attac

2008-10-25 Thread Jeff Wright
 What is required for this attack to occur?  Does the
 victim/user have to visit a website hosting the malware?
 (Note the website could be having ads for bandaids that
 have the malware as the actual content not the bandaids)
 
 Or can the user sit behind their router (NAT'ed) and be
 infected.

If you are unpatched and don't use any kind of firewall and/or you have file
and print sharing turned on, you'll most likely be infected.  Windows XP SP2
and SP3 has the firewall turned on by default, but since file and print
sharing creates an exception in the firewall, that won't help you here.
(Windows Vista is vulnerable, but to a much lesser degree than XP.)  A
hardware firewall is best, even if it's just a router using NAT.

From MS security site:  http://tinyurl.com/6qnwnv

If you are behind a perimeter firewall that filters inbound connections to
TCP ports 139 and 445, you will not be reachable from the Internet. This is
a common home user scenario. In this scenario, only the machines in your
local LAN will have the ability to exploit this vulnerability.

The best course is to apply the patch; I've done it to my home machines and
all of my PCs on my network at work.  No problems to report.  

Test to see what ports are open at Steve Gibson's ShieldsUp!:
https://www.grc.com/x/ne.dll?bh0bkyd2


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[CGUYS] Compaq SCSI drive

2008-10-25 Thread b_s-wilk
Bob's Compaq Presario F572US notebook has an 80GB hard drive. It's too 
small. He asked the computer what kind of drive it had. Vista told him, 
Htachi HTS541680J9S SCSI drive. I knew it wasn't SCSI, so I looked it 
up, and it's SATA.


How big a drive can he put into this notebook? How complicated is it? 
Does he have to take the entire notebook apart and tape screws to a 
diagram, or is it more straightforward?


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Re: [CGUYS] Compaq SCSI drive

2008-10-25 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Compaq's usually have a nice handy little black panel that comes off 
on the bottom.


I would assume the sky is the limit as long as it fits in the slot.

Stewart


At 11:51 AM 10/25/2008, you wrote:
Bob's Compaq Presario F572US notebook has an 80GB hard drive. It's 
too small. He asked the computer what kind of drive it had. Vista 
told him, Htachi HTS541680J9S SCSI drive. I knew it wasn't SCSI, so 
I looked it up, and it's SATA.


How big a drive can he put into this notebook? How complicated is 
it? Does he have to take the entire notebook apart and tape screws 
to a diagram, or is it more straightforward?


Betty


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Re: [CGUYS] RAID Risks Rising

2008-10-25 Thread Tom Piwowar
Not really cause it won't make any difference in your opinion of RAID.  Z
for Zealot!

You probably think I pal around with terrorists too.


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Re: [CGUYS] RAID Risks Rising

2008-10-25 Thread Tom Piwowar
Never said RAID was best, just that it has it's place.  Tom's argument
previously was that because of HD's high MTBF RAID was useless, this new
article that came up said RAID was useless because of low MTBF. 

I think you should reread the 2009 article more carefully. That article 
was not about MTBFs. It was about the probability of errors vs the number 
of bytes on the drive. As the number of bytes increases the probability 
of an error increases. The author said that that probability of 1 error 
would soon approach 100%. Under those condtions RAID would fail to 
rebuild a bad drive.

Hence a RAID set would be no more secure than a single drive and it would 
be less reliable because the probability of something going wrong on a 
RAID set is higher than the probability of a single drive failing.

Probability lesson (simplified but accurate):
1) The non-RAID bet: I flip a coin. Heads you lose.
2) The RAID bet: I flip 7 coins. If any one is heads, you lose.

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Re: [CGUYS] Low battery voltage warning?

2008-10-25 Thread Tom Piwowar
I thought so too.  That should warrant a refund, right?

Or a replacement of the power supply.

It is worth a try. Sometimes a kindly clerk will swop your bad part with 
one in another box and send the open box back to the manufacturer.


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Re: [CGUYS] Compaq SCSI drive

2008-10-25 Thread mike
Don't assume that, some cases are specifically made for 5400 rpm drives, a
7200 rpm might cause issues.

On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 9:59 AM, Rev. Stewart Marshall 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Compaq's usually have a nice handy little black panel that comes off on the
 bottom.

 I would assume the sky is the limit as long as it fits in the slot.

 Stewart



 At 11:51 AM 10/25/2008, you wrote:

 Bob's Compaq Presario F572US notebook has an 80GB hard drive. It's too
 small. He asked the computer what kind of drive it had. Vista told him,
 Htachi HTS541680J9S SCSI drive. I knew it wasn't SCSI, so I looked it up,
 and it's SATA.

 How big a drive can he put into this notebook? How complicated is it? Does
 he have to take the entire notebook apart and tape screws to a diagram, or
 is it more straightforward?

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Re: [CGUYS] RAID Risks Rising

2008-10-25 Thread mike
Single drives still aren't fast enough for enterprise work.  We've been over
this...the horse is dead, buried, he's been exhumed and is now being beaten
again within an inch of his death.  RAID with backup on/offsite is still
cheaper then putting together a cluster for some mid range customers.   I've
never said RAID should be used for storage...and of course always backup.

This from my RAID 0 fully backed up pc.

On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 10:16 AM, Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Never said RAID was best, just that it has it's place.  Tom's argument
 previously was that because of HD's high MTBF RAID was useless, this new
 article that came up said RAID was useless because of low MTBF.

 I think you should reread the 2009 article more carefully. That article
 was not about MTBFs. It was about the probability of errors vs the number
 of bytes on the drive. As the number of bytes increases the probability
 of an error increases. The author said that that probability of 1 error
 would soon approach 100%. Under those condtions RAID would fail to
 rebuild a bad drive.

 Hence a RAID set would be no more secure than a single drive and it would
 be less reliable because the probability of something going wrong on a
 RAID set is higher than the probability of a single drive failing.

 Probability lesson (simplified but accurate):
 1) The non-RAID bet: I flip a coin. Heads you lose.
 2) The RAID bet: I flip 7 coins. If any one is heads, you lose.

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Re: [CGUYS] RAID Risks Rising

2008-10-25 Thread Tom Piwowar
This from my RAID 0 fully backed up pc.

Ever see Stoppard's Rosencrantz and Guildenstern?


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Re: [CGUYS] FW: Microsoft posts emergency defense for new attac

2008-10-25 Thread Tom Piwowar
If a worm got loose inside the office network (and the patch hadn't been 
installed), the attack would spread like wildfire.

So to be safe, even after patching all my PCs, if somebody brings in a 
laptop I would want to be sure that it is fully patched before letting it 
attach to my network.

How do I do that?

My Macs keep a SoftwareUpdate.log. Does Windows do same?


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Re: [CGUYS] Verizon FIOS misinformation?

2008-10-25 Thread Richard P.
Another salesperson for Verizon FIOS was back out here today and also
erroneously stated that Cox analog delivery were going away as of Feb
19, 2009. At least this time I was able to find out that this is an
contractor for a private company. He was very upset that I got his
name and then refused to give me his badge number. At least this
wasn't a Verizon personnel, although it is discouraging that the
misinformation is still being spread around.

Richard P.

On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 12:30 AM, Eric S. Sande [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Two Verizon sales guys were out today selling FIOS. During the
 conversation, they announced that that analog Cox cable TV was going
 to go away as of February 2009.



 I have a lot of respect for Verizon and was half considering going
 with their FIOS, but with this type of sales tactics, they lose
 credibility in my view.

 I'm sorry if Verizon misrepresented anything regarding a
 competitor.  Our business ethics model does not permit
 speculation on, misrepresentation, or deprecation of our
 competitor's services or plans.

 We compete based on the strengths of our products, period.

 I will say that anyone who works for Verizon that is found
 to badmouth a competitor is subject to discipline up to and
 including dismissal.


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Re: [CGUYS] FW: Microsoft posts emergency defense for new attac

2008-10-25 Thread Richard P.
You can also do a Windows Update and check the patch history.

Richard P.

On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 3:02 PM, mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 According to the guardian, the fix arrives as KB958644, you can open
 add/remove programs control panel to check if it is there.

 Mike

 On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 11:13 AM, Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 If a worm got loose inside the office network (and the patch hadn't been
 installed), the attack would spread like wildfire.

 So to be safe, even after patching all my PCs, if somebody brings in a
 laptop I would want to be sure that it is fully patched before letting it
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 How do I do that?

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Re: [CGUYS] FW: Microsoft posts emergency defense for new attac

2008-10-25 Thread Tom Piwowar
According to the guardian, the fix arrives as KB958644, you can open
add/remove programs control panel to check if it is there.

Thanks, but what about the other 48,237 patches? Is there a reliable way 
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Re: [CGUYS] FW: Microsoft posts emergency defense for new attac

2008-10-25 Thread mike
Tom, come on, there are only 48,234 patches.  AFAIK, the best/easiest and
maybe only way is to run windows update.

Mike

On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 12:22 PM, Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 According to the guardian, the fix arrives as KB958644, you can open
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[CGUYS] what router?

2008-10-25 Thread rlsimon
I've had ATT dialup since it was acquired from IBM ...a long time.  It's too
slow and I'm fed up.  No FIOS here during my natural life per verizon.  No
DSL either as we're in the stix and too far from the switch.  Comcast
offering $24.95/mo for 768mbps speed (like DSL) cheep.  Offering TV for
$10/mo for a year (limited cable which is local channels and some other
stuff).  I don't want to rent their modem so I was gonna get a cable modem +
wifi router combo so I can take my laptop (has a/b/g internal) room2room and
would place modem/router next to computer and use ethernet to hook to router
and coax in wall to get comcast (wires already in there).  Questions:
 
Linksys or Netgear ...which is better?
Do I need n ?
What else?
 
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Re: [CGUYS] MS Astroturfing

2008-10-25 Thread Jeff Wright
 In the sidebar of the article about RAID was another interesting story:
 http://blogs.zdnet.com/Apple/?p=2415
 The author reports that MS is seeking to pay pundits to write anti-
 Apple stories. They offered to provide all the research to write from
and
 $15,000.

Proving once again that having a smug, hipster stereotype and a clumsy, dork
stereotype in broadcast ads, running so frequently so as every person on the
planet could claim one showing as their very own, is a much better way of
spreading half-truths and misinformation about your competitor.

When you're perpetually stuck in last place, that's SOP.  I suppose that's
why Apple ads remind me of McCain ads, divisive and slinging piss and
vinegar everywhere, while the recent I'm a PC Windows ads come off much
more inclusive, positive and hopeful, like a certain other presidential
candidate.

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Re: [CGUYS] RAID Risks Rising

2008-10-25 Thread Jeff Wright
I can recall Robert Metcalfe, the co-inventor of Ethernet and founder of
3Com, writing in 1996 or so about the coming Internet crash.  He called it
a gigalapse. He publicly and very enthusiastically predicted that very
soon the Internet would not be able to handle the data load and would fail.

I must have overslept that day and missed it.  Oh yeah, I remember something
about Y2K destroying the world too.

IOW, I'll believe this latest apocalyptic prediction when I (or someone
else) see(s) it.

 -Original Message-
 From Zdnet storage blogs - titled Why RAID 5 stops working in 2009
 Robin Harris discusses why RAID risks are starting to overwhelm its
 protections.  A must read for anyone serious about storage (and
 especially retrieval) - not a be-all, but these risks are real and not
 considering them invites disastrous data loss.
 
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Re: [CGUYS] what router?

2008-10-25 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
N will give you the best coverage.  It may be overkill on speed but 
it is backward compatible.


Check out CNET and newegg for pricing (But also read the customer 
reviews for a critical eye on what works and what does not)


I have a Belkin pre-N MIMO and the coverage is excellent, and it works well.

I would say minimum G mimo for any router.

(Caution on the new linsys they have done away with external antennas.)

Stewart


At 02:36 PM 10/25/2008, you wrote:

I've had ATT dialup since it was acquired from IBM ...a long time.  It's too
slow and I'm fed up.  No FIOS here during my natural life per verizon.  No
DSL either as we're in the stix and too far from the switch.  Comcast
offering $24.95/mo for 768mbps speed (like DSL) cheep.  Offering TV for
$10/mo for a year (limited cable which is local channels and some other
stuff).  I don't want to rent their modem so I was gonna get a cable modem +
wifi router combo so I can take my laptop (has a/b/g internal) room2room and
would place modem/router next to computer and use ethernet to hook to router
and coax in wall to get comcast (wires already in there).  Questions:

Linksys or Netgear ...which is better?
Do I need n ?
What else?

thanx!


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Re: [CGUYS] what router?

2008-10-25 Thread gerald
i did not know komkast had modem/routers.
if you get one, make certain it is komkastick approved.  i bought one a few 
years that was not approved.

since people are very unhappy with comcast and switching to fios(we did it for 
cost -$50 a month), there should be tons of modems on ebay.

N routers are super fast.(i think).  i bought one for my wife to connect to 
her big MAC.

the N she got does not want to change IP address, and conflicts with 
something else, so she runs next slower(G?) and it is plenty fast for her.  
she uses the modem/router from FIOS.

At 03:36 PM 10/25/2008, you wrote:
I've had ATT dialup since it was acquired from IBM ...a long time.  It's too
slow and I'm fed up.  No FIOS here during my natural life per verizon.  No
DSL either as we're in the stix and too far from the switch.  Comcast
offering $24.95/mo for 768mbps speed (like DSL) cheep.  Offering TV for
$10/mo for a year (limited cable which is local channels and some other
stuff).  I don't want to rent their modem so I was gonna get a cable modem +
wifi router combo so I can take my laptop (has a/b/g internal) room2room and
would place modem/router next to computer and use ethernet to hook to router
and coax in wall to get comcast (wires already in there).  Questions:
 
Linksys or Netgear ...which is better?
Do I need n ?
What else?
 
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Re: [CGUYS] FW: Microsoft posts emergency defense for new attac

2008-10-25 Thread Tom Piwowar
Tom, come on, there are only 48,234 patches.  AFAIK, the best/easiest and
maybe only way is to run windows update.

You want me to connect an unknown computer to my network and run Windows 
Update? You must be kidding.

I ask Is that neighborhood safe to walk in? You say Go take a walk 
there. If you come back without any bullet holes it should be okay.

I guess this is just one more reason why Windows is not ready for the 
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Re: [CGUYS] FW: Microsoft posts emergency defense for new attac

2008-10-25 Thread mike
Or set it up so it can't connect to your networknot too difficult.


On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 1:47 PM, Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Tom, come on, there are only 48,234 patches.  AFAIK, the best/easiest and
 maybe only way is to run windows update.

 You want me to connect an unknown computer to my network and run Windows
 Update? You must be kidding.

 I ask Is that neighborhood safe to walk in? You say Go take a walk
 there. If you come back without any bullet holes it should be okay.

 I guess this is just one more reason why Windows is not ready for the
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Re: [CGUYS] FW: Microsoft posts emergency defense for new attac

2008-10-25 Thread Tom Piwowar
Since I'm safe here behind my firewall with everything else running on my 
LAN at the moment being Macs I did take your advice and ran Microsoft 
Update. After churning away for several minutes and insisting that I 
install serveral updates to Microsoft Update it now says Error number 
0x80072EE2.

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Re: [CGUYS] what router?

2008-10-25 Thread Tom Piwowar
Linksys or Netgear ...which is better?

Linksys is owned by Cisco. Netgear works fine too. D-Link is also fine.


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Re: [CGUYS] FW: Microsoft posts emergency defense for new attac

2008-10-25 Thread Jeff Wright
 You want me to connect an unknown computer to my network and run
 Windows Update? You must be kidding.

You let people bring in laptops and connect to your internal LAN?  That must
be exciting to watch and see if it takes down your network.

I never allow outside laptops on our LAN.  I have a guest network that goes
straight out to the Internet and have network jacks in public areas, such as
conference rooms, assigned to that.  There are also ways of requiring
authentication in order to provide an IP address to prevent unauthorized
access, but that's not something I've ever been able to get around to.

 Thanks, but what about the other 48,237 patches? Is there a reliable
 way to determine if a Windows XP system is fully patched?

Windows Update is the most reliable method, but if it floats your boat:
C:\Windows\windowsupdate.log.  Not designed for the casual user.


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Re: [CGUYS] FW: Microsoft posts emergency defense for new attac

2008-10-25 Thread Jeff Wright
I run into that occasionally.  Close the browser and try again or just turn
on auto update, but leave it to d/l only and notify.

 -Original Message-
 Since I'm safe here behind my firewall with everything else running on
 my LAN at the moment being Macs I did take your advice and ran Microsoft
 Update. After churning away for several minutes and insisting that I
 install serveral updates to Microsoft Update it now says Error number
 0x80072EE2.
 
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Re: [CGUYS] FW: Microsoft posts emergency defense for new attac

2008-10-25 Thread mike
Not me, you seem to have the worst luck with computers then anyone else I
know.

On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 2:12 PM, Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Since I'm safe here behind my firewall with everything else running on my
 LAN at the moment being Macs I did take your advice and ran Microsoft
 Update. After churning away for several minutes and insisting that I
 install serveral updates to Microsoft Update it now says Error number
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Re: [CGUYS] what router?

2008-10-25 Thread Jeff Wright
 Linksys or Netgear ...which is better?
 Do I need n ?
 What else?

I prefer Netgear over Linksys, but either will be fine.  You can generally
find good refurbed Netgear equipment on eBay.  I've had very good results
with Justdeals on eBay, who typically has a good supply of refurbed Netgear
equipment, at a very nice discount over buying new.  No duds yet.

I have a G access point (NOT a router--my firewall is my router) and cards
and that's fine with me.  The MIMO (multiple-input and multiple-output)
variety tend to have better coverage than non-MIMO.  I picked up a Level 1
internal MIMO wireless card for my desktop (to go with my Netgear MIMO
access point) at Microcenter for $29.  Works great.

Don't buy anything that offers only WEP encryption.  WPA2 is the best
encryption standard and most hardware out now will support that, but I still
see a lot for sale that is WEP-only.  

Don't worry about not broadcasting your SSID; that offers very little in the
way of security.  Just make the SSID something meaningless and enable WPA or
WPA2 encryption; make sure your passcode is long enough to be difficult to
crack.  I generally use a phrase that I can remember, but isn't commonly
known.  I think mine is 26 characters long, with both letters and numbers.

Oh, and *change the default password* to the router admin console!


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Re: [CGUYS] FW: Microsoft posts emergency defense for new attac

2008-10-25 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 8:20 PM, Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 It was waiting on my machine at work this morning.  The only annoyance was
 it rebooted the machine without warning after it installed.

 Why should they warn you? The computer belongs to Microsoft. You are
 lucky that they even let you use it.

 The Commonwealth of Virginia might have an argument with that,


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John Duncan Yoyo
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Re: [CGUYS] FW: Microsoft posts emergency defense for new attac

2008-10-25 Thread Tom Piwowar
You let people bring in laptops and connect to your internal LAN?  That must
be exciting to watch and see if it takes down your network.
I never allow outside laptops on our LAN.

The fundamental question is whether IT is there to support the mission of 
the organization or if the mission of the organization is to support IT.

C:\Windows\windowsupdate.log

Thank you.


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Re: [CGUYS] FW: Microsoft posts emergency defense for new attac

2008-10-25 Thread Tom Piwowar
I will note here that Microsoft should steal this idea, assuming it is less
cryptic than the current Windows update log.

It is a nice simple list: Name of update. Version number. Date of install.

If you want cryptic there are many other logs to amuse.


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Re: [CGUYS] FW: Microsoft posts emergency defense for new attac

2008-10-25 Thread Tom Piwowar
I will note here that Microsoft should steal this idea, assuming it is less
cryptic than the current Windows update log.

I just got a nice simple list from Windows Update: Product, Update 
name/version, Status, Date, Source. Just what I want to see.

Not wanting to be too useful MS only shows 10 per screen and there are 
142 screens worth for my PC. Oh joy.

To see this I'm in IE at the Windows Update site. In the page's sidebar 
it says I am on a page called Review Your Update History. Is the 
browser reading log files off of my computer? I don't like that one bit. 
There should be a more secure way to get me this information.

It won't let me access any updates until it forces Windows Genuine 
Advantage on me. 

I hope the new administration gets back to enforcing the Sherman 
Antitrust Act.


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Re: [CGUYS] what router?

2008-10-25 Thread Eric S. Sande
I used to use Linksys or Netgear but bought a couple of dLinks recently 
and was favorably impressed.  Cheaper and easier to setup.


I carried an old D-Link hub to Cleveland in the winter and it
worked to spec.

:-)


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Re: [CGUYS] FW: Microsoft posts emergency defense for new attac

2008-10-25 Thread Jeff Wright
 The fundamental question is whether IT is there to support the mission
 of the organization or if the mission of the organization is to support
 IT.

The fundamental question is whether IT will protect the assets and business
operations of the business or allow them to be disrupted by clueless people.

A few weeks ago, our auditors arrived to start their on-site work.  They
come every year and I had set up an office with access to the Internet over
our guest network.  For some odd reason, they couldn't pick up IP addresses
for that subnet.  I thought the inexpensive router I had on that segment,
providing IPs, had gone bad.  So I replaced it with a new one (after a trip
to Best Buy), but the problem persisted.  

After some additional investigation, I discovered that the hub they had
brought in to aggregate their laptops was, in fact, a router, with its own
DHCP server.  It was having a fun time giving out its own incompatible IP
addresses.

I gave them a 5 port dumb switch to use and (nicely) told them to never do
that again on anyone's network.  Ever.

Had they done that on the internal LAN, I don't want to think about the
havoc that would have caused.


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Re: [CGUYS] FW: Microsoft posts emergency defense for new attac

2008-10-25 Thread Jeff Wright
 Not wanting to be too useful MS only shows 10 per screen and there are
 142 screens worth for my PC. Oh joy.

And you patched this PC the last time, when?  1998?

You do have some odd issues.  I've never seen that.  If there is an old PC
that hasn't been on in while, I'll see a lng list of updates, all on one
page.  I don't know what you did to get it to only show 10 at a time.


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Re: [CGUYS] They're soooo COMCASTIC

2008-10-25 Thread Paula Minor
I don't get my email thru Comcast but I have noticed consistently  
slower download and response times in the last several weeks on  
Comcast.  I'm in Seattle.



Same here in Indianapolis

Paula/IN/USA







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