Re: [CGUYS] new comcast install
you want their coax everywhere. i was surprised when FIOS came in and said that the cable in the house was the same as their cable, and did not recable the house. i presume they would have recabled if i requested. FIOS dug a new trench from about 2-300 feet west to someplace to the far east to install my new FIOS. a lot of it was hand dug. the comcast box and cable was on the far side of the street. fios came down the public right of way section of my yard and put in new cable. the cable was double(2 cables) and bright orange. when i had 768 at the factory and 3mb at home, i could seldom tell the difference. only in downloading a long file from a really good server. At 02:48 PM 10/26/2008, you wrote: questions: i have a wire from pole to house that is over 15 years old just sitting there unused ...should I make them put a new one up? i have coaxial cable to the rooms with TVs (2) and room with 2nd TV has the computer ...will that coax (also about 15+ years old but working fine with 40' tower antenna to analog TVs) be good for the new service or do I need to insist they drag a new cable for that ? ...for the internet connection? I intend to replace my dialup (gets about 23kbps speed usually or worse) with the cheapest internet they offer (768kbps) ...that's about the speed of DSL ...that costs $24.95/mo forever ...they also have 6mb/s for 34.95/6mo--42.95 after which I can change to for $1.99 fee later...I intend to start with the cheapie and see ...comments? I can get limited TV for $10/mo x 12mo then $14 after and of course can get more ...I have no HDTVs (hope is to see the bottom of prices this season as nobody has any cash to spare) and see about upgrades but for now will keep analog TV (1984 Sony KV25XBR very nice set) and JVC DR-MV1S (VCR/DVDR dual tuner analog) which are working fine and a little analog screen next to my computer for now ...any comments? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Low battery voltage warning?
Sorry for the continuing questions on this, but computer is exhibiting new behavior at start up. Today, even with all the USB devices pulled, still got the low system battery voltage warning, and on first few tries nothing happened when I hit the F2 key to continue, as it says on screen. Finally, after turning power strip and computer off and then on, still got the warning, but the F2 key brought up start menu. Previously, it seemed that when I unplugged the USB devices (or most of them) it would start up normally. So now I'm really confused - it seems from the feedback here that there are at least 2 different problems going on, maybe 3: 1) the external hard drive power supply (because it only seems to work when it is plugged into the computer) 2) the power supply for the desk top itself and 3) maybe the CMOS battery? I haven't yet replaced the CMOS battery, because the more recent behavior and comments here seemed to be pointing away from that as the problem. Should I still try to replace it (I have the replacement from Dell)? Am I now faced with having to replace both the Computer's power supply and the External HD power supply (or the External Hard Drive itself)? Do I have a ghost in my machine? Is it haunted - an early Halloween haunting? Could the extra draw from the External Hard Drive on the Desktop's power supply have damaged its power supply or the CMOS battery? The start up problems did seem to coincide approximately with when I got the External Drive. bonus question: Should I forget the whole thing and find way to buy a laptop, which, I think, is what I really want anyway? Thanks, Randall On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 10:02 PM, Ranbo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought so too. That should warrant a refund, right? Randall On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 8:15 PM, Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It wouldn't be the first time a power brick failed. If the drive stays on with the USB disconnected, the drive power is fine. If not, get a new brick for it at Radio Shack or someplace if you have to. No point in obsessing over the warranty after the fact. Maybe you can get the manufacturer to send another brick. Buying at Office Depot is rarely wise. They charge too much and don't provide good service. I thought that a previous test had confirmed that the power brick was bad. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Low battery voltage warning?
I'll vote for the Power supply. Ranbo wrote: Sorry for the continuing questions on this, but computer is exhibiting new behavior at start up. Today, even with all the USB devices pulled, still got the low system battery voltage warning, and on first few tries nothing happened when I hit the F2 key to continue, as it says on screen. Finally, after turning power strip and computer off and then on, still got the warning, but the F2 key brought up start menu. Previously, it seemed that when I unplugged the USB devices (or most of them) it would start up normally. So now I'm really confused - it seems from the feedback here that there are at least 2 different problems going on, maybe 3: 1) the external hard drive power supply (because it only seems to work when it is plugged into the computer) 2) the power supply for the desk top itself * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] iMove HD 5.0 question
I was trying to work on some clips I just imported, immediately got a Letterboxing-This may take awhile message. It's been doing that for 3 hours now. I assume this is because I shot the video in 16:9 aspect, but does it really take that long (about 30 minutes of video total)? tia. david David Turk Manager, Preservation Imaging Services Indiana Historical Society Eugene and Marilyn Glick Indiana History Center 450 W. Ohio St. Indianapolis, IN 46202 (317) 232-4592 [EMAIL PROTECTED] * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Low battery voltage warning?
If you have to spend $100 to have someone replace the computers power supply... replacing the machine instead is something to consider as a better long term investment. But you also need to think about how you are going to get your data off of that machine. Taking out adapter cards will help reduce the load but time is not on your side. With a failing PS, the situation will continue to get worse. The sooner the better. db Ranbo wrote: Sorry for the continuing questions on this, but computer is exhibiting new behavior at start up. Today, even with all the USB devices pulled, still got the low system battery voltage warning, and on first few tries nothing happened when I hit the F2 key to continue, as it says on screen. Finally, after turning power strip and computer off and then on, still got the warning, but the F2 key brought up start menu. Previously, it seemed that when I unplugged the USB devices (or most of them) it would start up normally. So now I'm really confused - it seems from the feedback here that there are at least 2 different problems going on, maybe 3: 1) the external hard drive power supply (because it only seems to work when it is plugged into the computer) 2) the power supply for the desk top itself and 3) maybe the CMOS battery? I haven't yet replaced the CMOS battery, because the more recent behavior and comments here seemed to be pointing away from that as the problem. Should I still try to replace it (I have the replacement from Dell)? Am I now faced with having to replace both the Computer's power supply and the External HD power supply (or the External Hard Drive itself)? Do I have a ghost in my machine? Is it haunted - an early Halloween haunting? Could the extra draw from the External Hard Drive on the Desktop's power supply have damaged its power supply or the CMOS battery? The start up problems did seem to coincide approximately with when I got the External Drive. bonus question: Should I forget the whole thing and find way to buy a laptop, which, I think, is what I really want anyway? Thanks, Randall On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 10:02 PM, Ranbo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought so too. That should warrant a refund, right? Randall On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 8:15 PM, Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It wouldn't be the first time a power brick failed. If the drive stays on with the USB disconnected, the drive power is fine. If not, get a new brick for it at Radio Shack or someplace if you have to. No point in obsessing over the warranty after the fact. Maybe you can get the manufacturer to send another brick. Buying at Office Depot is rarely wise. They charge too much and don't provide good service. I thought that a previous test had confirmed that the power brick was bad. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Low battery voltage warning?
If I remember correctly this is a generic Dell desktop. I remember hearing somewhere (This MAY NOT BE ACCURATE) that Dell used a proprietary wiring setup in their machines. I belive that there are some adapters that would allow a good 400 watt power supply (which should cost less than $50.00 to purchase) to be used. Stewart At 01:10 PM 10/27/2008, you wrote: If you have to spend $100 to have someone replace the computers power supply... replacing the machine instead is something to consider as a better long term investment. But you also need to think about how you are going to get your data off of that machine. Taking out adapter cards will help reduce the load but time is not on your side. With a failing PS, the situation will continue to get worse. The sooner the better. db Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Low battery voltage warning?
Laptops are great for portability. They are very expensive when taking into account durability, lifespan, repair costs and ooommph. db Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: Again I vote for computer power supply. Question, what kind of power strip is this plugged into and is it plugged into some sort of Battery Back up line filter? Final note if you are not really in love with this machine and need portability I vote for a good laptop. Stewart At 09:22 AM 10/27/2008, you wrote: Sorry for the continuing questions on this, but computer is exhibiting new behavior at start up. Today, even with all the USB devices pulled, still got the low system battery voltage warning, and on first few tries nothing happened when I hit the F2 key to continue, as it says on screen. Finally, after turning power strip and computer off and then on, still got the warning, but the F2 key brought up start menu. Previously, it seemed that when I unplugged the USB devices (or most of them) it would start up normally. So now I'm really confused - it seems from the feedback here that there are at least 2 different problems going on, maybe 3: 1) the external hard drive power supply (because it only seems to work when it is plugged into the computer) 2) the power supply for the desk top itself and 3) maybe the CMOS battery? I haven't yet replaced the CMOS battery, because the more recent behavior and comments here seemed to be pointing away from that as the problem. Should I still try to replace it (I have the replacement from Dell)? Am I now faced with having to replace both the Computer's power supply and the External HD power supply (or the External Hard Drive itself)? Do I have a ghost in my machine? Is it haunted - an early Halloween haunting? Could the extra draw from the External Hard Drive on the Desktop's power supply have damaged its power supply or the CMOS battery? The start up problems did seem to coincide approximately with when I got the External Drive. bonus question: Should I forget the whole thing and find way to buy a laptop, which, I think, is what I really want anyway? Thanks, Randall Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] iMove HD 5.0 question
Quite a lot depends on the speed of your machine. Given that you are not running the latest version of iMovie (the last iMovie to call itself HD was version 6 and the most recent version of iMovie is version 7), I suspect that your experience is not out of line for your hardware. I think that iMovie HD 5.0 was current for PowerPC macs mostly running at less than 1 GHz, and I recall that for them, some tasks had to be set up to work overnight. If your Mac will support it, try using iMovie HD 6 (which has a design similar to iMovie HD 5) or even iMovie 7 (radically redesigned) to see if they are better optimized. Apple made iMovie HD 6 a free download because many users were disgruntled with the redesign of iMovie 7. I was trying to work on some clips I just imported, immediately got a Letterboxing-This may take awhile message. It's been doing that for 3 hours now. I assume this is because I shot the video in 16:9 aspect, but does it really take that long (about 30 minutes of video total)? tia. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] iMove HD 5.0 question
David Turk Manager, Preservation Imaging Indiana Historical Society 450 W. Ohio St. Indianapolis, IN 46202 [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Computer Guys Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David K Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 4:55 PM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] iMove HD 5.0 question Quite a lot depends on the speed of your machine. Given that you are not running the latest version of iMovie (the last iMovie to call itself HD was version 6 and the most recent version of iMovie is version 7), I suspect that your experience is not out of line for your hardware. I think that iMovie HD 5.0 was current for PowerPC macs mostly running at less than 1 GHz, and I recall that for them, some tasks had to be set up to work overnight. If your Mac will support it, try using iMovie HD 6 (which has a design similar to iMovie HD 5) or even iMovie 7 (radically redesigned) to see if they are better optimized. Apple made iMovie HD 6 a free download because many users were disgruntled with the redesign of iMovie 7. I was trying to work on some clips I just imported, immediately got a Letterboxing-This may take awhile message. It's been doing that for 3 hours now. I assume this is because I shot the video in 16:9 aspect, but does it really take that long (about 30 minutes of video total)? tia. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] iMove HD 5.0 question
Thanks! Will give that a try... david David Turk Manager, Preservation Imaging Indiana Historical Society 450 W. Ohio St. Indianapolis, IN 46202 [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Computer Guys Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David K Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 4:55 PM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] iMove HD 5.0 question Quite a lot depends on the speed of your machine. Given that you are not running the latest version of iMovie (the last iMovie to call itself HD was version 6 and the most recent version of iMovie is version 7), I suspect that your experience is not out of line for your hardware. I think that iMovie HD 5.0 was current for PowerPC macs mostly running at less than 1 GHz, and I recall that for them, some tasks had to be set up to work overnight. If your Mac will support it, try using iMovie HD 6 (which has a design similar to iMovie HD 5) or even iMovie 7 (radically redesigned) to see if they are better optimized. Apple made iMovie HD 6 a free download because many users were disgruntled with the redesign of iMovie 7. I was trying to work on some clips I just imported, immediately got a Letterboxing-This may take awhile message. It's been doing that for 3 hours now. I assume this is because I shot the video in 16:9 aspect, but does it really take that long (about 30 minutes of video total)? tia. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Flaky PC - BSD's
I rescued a Gateway ATXSTF Performance 1400 machine from the dumpster at the town's clean-up day Saturday. The owner said that he thought something was wrong with the motherboard. It had a Staples repair sticker and another sticker on the back announcing that it was refurbished - I suppose those two stickers should have been enough to let it go into the dumpster. :-) First, it wouldn't boot at all - just a series of beeps. I took a chance and replaced the battery (I didn't have a 2032, so I threw in a 2025, which seems to work OK), and it now boots up, but then would start to load WinXP and then re-boot repeatedly. So I pulled every plug, connector, card, memory, and even the P4 processor and re-seated them. Now it boots up and loads WinXP (home), but if I try to much of anything, I get a BSD with the usual cryptic messages - never the same ones twice. Thinking that I might have a bad ram (there are two 512 meg sticks), I pulled them one at a time, but all that did was slow the Windows boot time. It came with another hard drive (apparently the trouble started when the owner tried to install a 200 gig drive to replace the 100 gig drive), and I will try that next. I really don't need another 1.5 GHz Windowz machine, but I am just ornery enough that I would like to get it working. Any (constructive) suggestions? Mike * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Flaky PC - BSD's
Replace the memory!!! Memory (DDR single sticks) tend to be flaky and when they have problems nothing works right. Stewart At 05:25 PM 10/27/2008, you wrote: I rescued a Gateway ATXSTF Performance 1400 machine from the dumpster at the town's clean-up day Saturday. The owner said that he thought something was wrong with the motherboard. It had a Staples repair sticker and another sticker on the back announcing that it was refurbished - I suppose those two stickers should have been enough to let it go into the dumpster. :-) First, it wouldn't boot at all - just a series of beeps. I took a chance and replaced the battery (I didn't have a 2032, so I threw in a 2025, which seems to work OK), and it now boots up, but then would start to load WinXP and then re-boot repeatedly. So I pulled every plug, connector, card, memory, and even the P4 processor and re-seated them. Now it boots up and loads WinXP (home), but if I try to much of anything, I get a BSD with the usual cryptic messages - never the same ones twice. Thinking that I might have a bad ram (there are two 512 meg sticks), I pulled them one at a time, but all that did was slow the Windows boot time. It came with another hard drive (apparently the trouble started when the owner tried to install a 200 gig drive to replace the 100 gig drive), and I will try that next. I really don't need another 1.5 GHz Windowz machine, but I am just ornery enough that I would like to get it working. Any (constructive) suggestions? Mike Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Low battery voltage warning?
I remember hearing somewhere (This MAY NOT BE ACCURATE) that Dell used a proprietary wiring setup in their machines. Not accurate for desktops. Laptops are all proprietary to some extent. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Flaky PC - BSD's
Mike Sloane I rescued a Gateway ATXSTF Performance 1400 machine from the dumpster at the town's clean-up day Saturday. The owner said that he thought something was wrong with the motherboard. It had a Staples repair sticker and another sticker on the back announcing that it was refurbished - I suppose those two stickers should have been enough to let it go into the dumpster. :-) Yup, memory would be an easy/fairly cheap thing to test. If that doesn't pan out, try SpinRite. Then again, if you don't already have it, you should ask yourself whether it's worth the $80 the s/w costs. -- Take care | This clown speaks for himself, his job doesn't Wayne D. | supply this, at least not directly On a clear disk you can seek forever * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Low battery voltage warning?
Computer and External HD are both plugged into a Surge Master II power strip. Not plugged into a battery back up line filter, as don't even know what that is. Not in love with machine, though money for new computer or laptop is somewhat an issue. Eventually, want laptop, as would be better for back, neck and other problems to be able to use laptop in recliner or in better ergonomic positions than sitting at a desk. Randall On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 1:59 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Again I vote for computer power supply. Question, what kind of power strip is this plugged into and is it plugged into some sort of Battery Back up line filter? Final note if you are not really in love with this machine and need portability I vote for a good laptop. Stewart At 09:22 AM 10/27/2008, you wrote: Sorry for the continuing questions on this, but computer is exhibiting new behavior at start up. Today, even with all the USB devices pulled, still got the low system battery voltage warning, and on first few tries nothing happened when I hit the F2 key to continue, as it says on screen. Finally, after turning power strip and computer off and then on, still got the warning, but the F2 key brought up start menu. Previously, it seemed that when I unplugged the USB devices (or most of them) it would start up normally. So now I'm really confused - it seems from the feedback here that there are at least 2 different problems going on, maybe 3: 1) the external hard drive power supply (because it only seems to work when it is plugged into the computer) 2) the power supply for the desk top itself and 3) maybe the CMOS battery? I haven't yet replaced the CMOS battery, because the more recent behavior and comments here seemed to be pointing away from that as the problem. Should I still try to replace it (I have the replacement from Dell)? Am I now faced with having to replace both the Computer's power supply and the External HD power supply (or the External Hard Drive itself)? Do I have a ghost in my machine? Is it haunted - an early Halloween haunting? Could the extra draw from the External Hard Drive on the Desktop's power supply have damaged its power supply or the CMOS battery? The start up problems did seem to coincide approximately with when I got the External Drive. bonus question: Should I forget the whole thing and find way to buy a laptop, which, I think, is what I really want anyway? Thanks, Randall Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Low battery voltage warning?
I'm doing pretty basic stuff; no gaming, for example. What would I lose going to a laptop if don't have exotic needs or for great speed or power? Randall On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 4:17 PM, db [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think it is model dependent. There are BIG tradeoffs in compute power, expense, durability and repair costs in exchange for portability when you move from desktop to laptop. If you need or value portability, these trade offs can easily be worthwhile but you are kidding yourself if you think they don't exist. It doesn't depend on models ... it depends on the difference in the form factor and everything that goes with it. Shrinking all the engineering from a generic AC powered box into a custom miniaturized DC powered package has many many inevitable engineering and cost/ expense implications. db Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: Greatly depends on manufacturer and models. They have gotten much easier to work on and maintain. Changing out a keyboard, harddrive, memory battery are easy and quick fixes. The most expensive repair and usually the most normal repair is the display. The display on a laptop is not only critical for its use, but also the most easily damaged in dropping, hitting etc. I have been able to replace keyboards on a Gateway, Compaq and Dell with little or no problems. Same with Harddrives. Be careful for the bottom end laptops. They are cheap and not that durable. Got my youngest a Dell laptop at Walmart during BlackFriday last year and we have been very pleased with it. And he is not that kind to it either. My Dell is the Latitude series and I am very pleased with it. (Latitude is their business level machines.) Stewart At 01:25 PM 10/27/2008, you wrote: Laptops are great for portability. They are very expensive when taking into account durability, lifespan, repair costs and ooommph. db Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Selection of Browser to Print Entertainment Coupons
To Entertainment.com: I had a problem printing restaurant coupons on http://www.entertainment.com using Safari 3.1.2 on my iMac running Mac OS 10.5.5. Your representative told me that your site isn't compatible with my browser, and that I should use Internet Explorer. I exercised an option on Safari that lets me have Safari just tell your site that it's an Internet Explorer, even though it's still actually Safari. After that, I had no problem printing the coupon. So there's nothing wrong with my browser, it's just that your software limits who it wants to deal with. This is akin to saying You can't eat in my restaurant because I don't like the color of your skin. There is no excuse for this type of behavior. Please change your policy and accept any browser which adheres to internet standards. I look forward to your response. Sincerely, Alvin Auerbach CC Distribution * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Selection of Browser to Print Entertainment Coupons
They probably won't be able to read your email because you wrote it with an incompatible program :) Otherwise, a great response! Looking forward to hear what they say. Richard P. On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 8:57 PM, Alvin Auerbach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To Entertainment.com: I had a problem printing restaurant coupons on http://www.entertainment.com using Safari 3.1.2 on my iMac running Mac OS 10.5.5. Your representative told me that your site isn't compatible with my browser, and that I should use Internet Explorer. I exercised an option on Safari that lets me have Safari just tell your site that it's an Internet Explorer, even though it's still actually Safari. After that, I had no problem printing the coupon. So there's nothing wrong with my browser, it's just that your software limits who it wants to deal with. This is akin to saying You can't eat in my restaurant because I don't like the color of your skin. There is no excuse for this type of behavior. Please change your policy and accept any browser which adheres to internet standards. I look forward to your response. Sincerely, Alvin Auerbach CC Distribution * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *