[CGUYS] Low system voltage problem solved?

[Ranbo]

When tried to turn on computer today kept getting the same low voltage
system message, whether I had other USB devices plugged into the computer or
not, no matter what I did (turn computer on and off, turn off power on surge
protector).  So finally changed the CMOS battery and, voila, computer has
started up okay 3 times in a row (last 2 were tests).  So, does this mean
those who suggested the battery was the problem in the first place were
right and that I don't have to worry about the computer's power supply?
Please say yes!  Don't need any further computer tricks, just treats.

Randall


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Re: [CGUYS] Low system voltage problem solved?

[Fred Holmes]

The odds are high that you are correct, but nothing is ever certain.

At 11:41 AM 10/31/2008, Ranbo wrote:
>When tried to turn on computer today kept getting the same low voltage
>system message, whether I had other USB devices plugged into the computer or
>not, no matter what I did (turn computer on and off, turn off power on surge
>protector).  So finally changed the CMOS battery and, voila, computer has
>started up okay 3 times in a row (last 2 were tests).  So, does this mean
>those who suggested the battery was the problem in the first place were
>right and that I don't have to worry about the computer's power supply?
>Please say yes!  Don't need any further computer tricks, just treats.
>
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Re: [CGUYS] MS emerg security update - anyone notice monitor pr

[Richard P.]

I wonder if hibernation problems have to do with the on-board,
always-on, anti-virus/anti-spyware/firewall software? The WinXP Pro
system that is used on a VPN here, where all the protections reside on
the corporate server has no problems with hibernation. The local PC
systems which have the protective software loaded internally seem to
have intermittent issues with hibernation. Just personal observation
without data to back it up.

Richard P.

On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 9:24 PM, Tom Piwowar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>This illustrates why I have avoided hibernation: it's never worked
>>reliably enough to be worth it.  Stand-by works fine and if I need to
>>save battery life, I'll turn the system off.
>
> Curiously, the Mac has the same problem. I wonder this is so tough to get
> right.
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Re: [CGUYS] Considering Verizon fios

[gerald]

up does not sound correct.  i show 7.93/2.59mbps.

>Run this speedtest .  FIOS just
>came in at 8.54 Mbps down (between T2 and Ethernet speeds) and 89kbps up.
>
>
>They throw a few services into the package which are nice.  Disney's
>internet is the one I remember.
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Re: [CGUYS] Tivo problem

[Brian Jones]

The problem I'm having is when I change a channel either through the guide 
or the Tivo remote, the channel that it tries to change to is different. 
For example, if I try to change to 296 and I'm already on 249, Tivo tries 
to change to 2296 or 2 or 96.


  I don't use this setup, but it seems that your problem may be in the IR 
transmitter/receiver...  Let me get this straight:


Your TiVo tells your DirectTV receiver to change channels through the IR 
dongle (that you have positioned in front of your DirectTV receiver).
The DirectTV receiver misunderstands the channel requested, and goes to the 
wrong channel (with a bouncing 721).


When you use your remote, are you using the TiVo remote the change channels 
on the DirectTV DVR?  (Thus using the same faulty IR Transmit/recieve link)


Is there another IR device transmitting in the same room? (wireless 
headphones, palm pilot, TV remote stuck in a sofa cushion with a button 
pushed)  Try sheilding the IR link from outside interferance with books, 
cardboard, etc.,  Try optimal placement of the IR transmitter about 18" in 
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Re: [CGUYS] Low system voltage problem solved?

[Tony B]

The battery's  only be there to keep the clock running, so I don't see why
they couldn't design the machine to simply boot to a failsafe setup even if
there was no battery. Lots of people leave their appliances blinking at
12:00.



On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 12:09 PM, Fred Holmes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> The odds are high that you are correct, but nothing is ever certain.
>
> At 11:41 AM 10/31/2008, Ranbo wrote:
> >When tried to turn on computer today kept getting the same low voltage
> >system message, whether I had other USB devices plugged into the computer
> or
> >not, no matter what I did (turn computer on and off, turn off power on
> surge
> >protector).  So finally changed the CMOS battery and, voila, computer has
> >started up okay 3 times in a row (last 2 were tests).  So, does this mean
> >those who suggested the battery was the problem in the first place were
> >right and that I don't have to worry about the computer's power supply?
> >Please say yes!  Don't need any further computer tricks, just treats.
>


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Re: [CGUYS] Low system voltage problem solved?

[db]

That's not true.  The battery & clock ticks is where the whole boot 
process starts.   See:

http://www.webopedia.com/DidYouKnow/Hardware_Software/2004/BootProcess.asp

db

Tony B wrote:

The battery's  only be there to keep the clock running, so I don't see why
they couldn't design the machine to simply boot to a failsafe setup even if
there was no battery. Lots of people leave their appliances blinking at
12:00.



On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 12:09 PM, Fred Holmes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

  

The odds are high that you are correct, but nothing is ever certain.

At 11:41 AM 10/31/2008, Ranbo wrote:


When tried to turn on computer today kept getting the same low voltage
system message, whether I had other USB devices plugged into the computer
  

or


not, no matter what I did (turn computer on and off, turn off power on
  

surge


protector).  So finally changed the CMOS battery and, voila, computer has
started up okay 3 times in a row (last 2 were tests).  So, does this mean
those who suggested the battery was the problem in the first place were
right and that I don't have to worry about the computer's power supply?
Please say yes!  Don't need any further computer tricks, just treats.
  



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Re: [CGUYS] Tivo problem

[Larry Sacks]

>> The problem I'm having is when I change a channel either through the guide 
>> or the Tivo remote, the channel that it tries to change to is different. 
>> For example, if I try to change to 296 and I'm already on 249, Tivo tries 
>> to change to 2296 or 2 or 96.

>   I don't use this setup, but it seems that your problem may be in the IR 
>transmitter/receiver...  Let me get this straight:
>
>Your TiVo tells your DirectTV receiver to change channels through the IR 
>dongle (that you have positioned in front of your DirectTV receiver).
>The DirectTV receiver misunderstands the channel requested, and goes to the 
>wrong channel (with a bouncing 721).

Yep That's exactly what's happening.  

>When you use your remote, are you using the TiVo remote the change channels 
>on the DirectTV DVR?  (Thus using the same faulty IR Transmit/recieve link)

Yes.  The Tivo remote is the only one I use.  

>Is there another IR device transmitting in the same room? (wireless 
>headphones, palm pilot, TV remote stuck in a sofa cushion with a button 
>pushed)  Try sheilding the IR link from outside interferance with books, 
>cardboard, etc.,  Try optimal placement of the IR transmitter about 18" in 
>front and center of your DirectTV box.

No other IR devices.  I actually took the batteries out of the other remotes 
"just in case" one was transmitting when it shouldn't be.

I've never tried the 18" placement, but can give that a try as a test.


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Re: [CGUYS] Tivo problem

[Brian Jones]

I've never tried the 18" placement, but can give that a try as a test.


  I am sure that you have tried the obvious... rebooting the TiVo, 
rebooting the DirectTV DVR, checking the TiVo's IR setup to control the 
DirectTV model you own...


  Since it is likely that the IR link is the source of the problem, you 
might try swapping out the TiVo's IR transmitter with another one.  Know 
anyone else with a TiVo?  I received an IR transmittor with each of my 
TiVo's, but don't use either one.  Maybe someone near you has a spare or can 
swap with you to test it.


   Next, see if changing channels with your DirectTV remote works well... 
this will test the IR receiver in the DirectTV box.


   If still flaky, the only circuit left is the IR driver chip on the TiVo 
motherboard.  If you have a lifetime TiVo contract, get it fixed (I can give 
you the name of the company that can do it).  If no contract, consider 
getting a new TiVo!  They run specials on the new HD Dual Tuner TiVo's 
ocasionally.


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Re: [CGUYS] Considering Verizon fios

[John Duncan Yoyo]

On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 12:10 PM, gerald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> up does not sound correct.  i show 7.93/2.59mbps.


Oh yeah I pay $10 for faster speed.  Forgot about that - I just got
10.9/1.75 but my wife is working on another node.

>
>
> >Run this speedtest .  FIOS just
> >came in at 8.54 Mbps down (between T2 and Ethernet speeds) and 89kbps up.
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Re: [CGUYS] Tivo problem

[John Emmerling]

I will repeat my earlier advice.  Go all the way through Guided Setup.
 It won't cost anything (except time), and could help.  Sorry if you
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[CGUYS] service pack 3

[jsutter]

hi

ms just sent me service pack 3 as part of updates for xp.
do i want to install it??
i'm sorry, i don't know anything about it.
thanks for any advice.
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Re: [CGUYS] Considering Verizon fios

[gerald]

the upload does not sound fast enough

At 04:17 PM 10/31/2008, you wrote:
>On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 12:10 PM, gerald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> up does not sound correct.  i show 7.93/2.59mbps.
>
>
>Oh yeah I pay $10 for faster speed.  Forgot about that - I just got
>10.9/1.75 but my wife is working on another node.
>
>>
>>
>> >Run this speedtest .  FIOS just
>> >came in at 8.54 Mbps down (between T2 and Ethernet speeds) and 89kbps up.
>>
>>
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Re: [CGUYS] Tivo problem

[Larry Sacks]

>I will repeat my earlier advice.  Go all the way through Guided Setup.
> It won't cost anything (except time), and could help.  Sorry if you
>already tried this!

No problem.  I've gone through guided setup...twice so far once even doing 
a full-system reset...  

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Re: [CGUYS] service pack 3

[Richard P.]

The decision is ultimately yours. While I and others on this list have
updated to SP3 and it's running well, it's not been entirely free of
installation and running issues. You might want to read all the other
comments on SP3 in the CGuys archives to get a better viewpoint. As
for me, I would install it again, knowing what I know now, but that's
me. Before installing SP3, just make sure that all of the other
Windows Updates are installed and the computer is running OK. You are
backed up, aren't you?

Richard P.

> ms just sent me service pack 3 as part of updates for xp.
> do i want to install it??
> i'm sorry, i don't know anything about it.
> thanks for any advice.
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Re: [CGUYS] service pack 3

[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

If you can get a disk with XP Service Pack 3 as an upgrade my experience 
was that that works with less problems.  As always back up everything 
before beginning this update. 

On the three occasions I had trouble I was using the windows update.  In 
all three cases the problem was with access to the internet using the 
browser (email still worked).  These were home machines attached to a 
router.   At work, of 40 some stations that updated none had any 
problems.  However, about 25 of those updates were done using a disk we 
obtained via our university license.


Before I undertook the upgrade I investigated the complaints about it 
and decided to wait about six months before upgrading.  By that time I 
did not see many complaints although, as noted, I experienced problems 
on my  home machines.


JL

jsutter wrote:

hi

ms just sent me service pack 3 as part of updates for xp.
do i want to install it??
i'm sorry, i don't know anything about it.
thanks for any advice.
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Re: [CGUYS] Tivo problem

[John Emmerling]

On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 4:59 PM, Larry Sacks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>I will repeat my earlier advice.  Go all the way through Guided Setup.
>> It won't cost anything (except time), and could help.  Sorry if you
>>already tried this!
>
> No problem.  I've gone through guided setup...twice so far once even 
> doing a full-system reset...
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Re: [CGUYS] Considering Verizon fios

[John Duncan Yoyo]

On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 4:50 PM, gerald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> the upload does not sound fast enough
>

Yep, I wonder what is up with that.  This is a Mac computer wired directly
into the hub with  about thirty feet of cat Cat5- Could the Cat 5 be it?


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Re: [CGUYS] service pack 3

[John Duncan Yoyo]

I downloaded the service pack from M$ at <
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=68C48DAD-BC34-40BE-8D85-6BB4F56F5110&displaylang=en>.
I keep a copy of SP2 and SP3 burned on a disk for when I am forced to
reinstall windows.  It goes pretty fast that way.

On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 5:45 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> If you can get a disk with XP Service Pack 3 as an upgrade my experience
> was that that works with less problems.  As always back up everything before
> beginning this update.
> On the three occasions I had trouble I was using the windows update.  In
> all three cases the problem was with access to the internet using the
> browser (email still worked).  These were home machines attached to a
> router.   At work, of 40 some stations that updated none had any problems.
>  However, about 25 of those updates were done using a disk we obtained via
> our university license.
>
> Before I undertook the upgrade I investigated the complaints about it and
> decided to wait about six months before upgrading.  By that time I did not
> see many complaints although, as noted, I experienced problems on my  home
> machines.
>
> JL
>
>
> jsutter wrote:
>
>> hi
>>
>> ms just sent me service pack 3 as part of updates for xp.
>> do i want to install it??
>> i'm sorry, i don't know anything about it.
>> thanks for any advice.
>> john
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Re: [CGUYS] Low system voltage problem solved?

[Brian Jones]

Sorry to differ, but I believe that the 'system clock' they are referring to 
is not the clock/calendar.  There is a more important clock that determins 
the timing of gates as they open and close allowing signals to flow from one 
component to the next.  Most computers boot up just fine without the 
BIOS/Clock battery, but it takes a bit longer for the BIOS to discover what 
is installed in the machine, since this stored data is often lost when the 
battery is removed.   Many of us remember the pre-386 machines of the 90's 
that could not even discover the hard drive partitions when the batteries 
died, and the specific information about that hard drive (heads, sectors, 
tracks, etc.) had to be reentered by hand.  Sometimes we had to remove the 
hard drive and read the lable to figure out what the settings should be.


SNIP
When the computer's power is first turned on, the CPU initializes itself, 
which is triggered by a series of clock ticks generated by the system clock. 
Part of the CPU's initialization is to look to the system's ROM BIOS for its 
first instruction in the startup program.

_
- Original Message - 
From: "db" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


That's not true.  The battery & clock ticks is where the whole boot 
process starts.   See:

http://www.webopedia.com/DidYouKnow/Hardware_Software/2004/BootProcess.asp



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[mike]

If it's bad cat 5.

On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 3:04 PM, John Duncan Yoyo
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 4:50 PM, gerald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > the upload does not sound fast enough
> >
>
> Yep, I wonder what is up with that.  This is a Mac computer wired directly
> into the hub with  about thirty feet of cat Cat5- Could the Cat 5 be it?
>
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Re: [CGUYS] Low system voltage problem solved?

[db]

Who knew???

db

Brian Jones wrote:
Sorry to differ, but I believe that the 'system clock' they are 
referring to is not the clock/calendar.  There is a more important 
clock that determins the timing of gates as they open and close 
allowing signals to flow from one component to the next.  Most 
computers boot up just fine without the BIOS/Clock battery, but it 
takes a bit longer for the BIOS to discover what is installed in the 
machine, since this stored data is often lost when the battery is 
removed.   Many of us remember the pre-386 machines of the 90's that 
could not even discover the hard drive partitions when the batteries 
died, and the specific information about that hard drive (heads, 
sectors, tracks, etc.) had to be reentered by hand.  Sometimes we had 
to remove the hard drive and read the lable to figure out what the 
settings should be.


SNIP
When the computer's power is first turned on, the CPU initializes 
itself, which is triggered by a series of clock ticks generated by the 
system clock. Part of the CPU's initialization is to look to the 
system's ROM BIOS for its first instruction in the startup program.

_
- Original Message - From: "db" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

That's not true.  The battery & clock ticks is where the whole boot 
process starts.   See:
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Re: [CGUYS] MS emerg security update - anyone notice monitor pr

[Tom Piwowar]

>I wonder if hibernation problems have to do with the on-board,
>always-on, anti-virus/anti-spyware/firewall software?

That stuff does cause problems. That is why I keep it off the computers I 
set up. Despite this I still see hibernation problems. So I disable that 
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Re: [CGUYS] Low system voltage problem solved?

[Tom Piwowar]

This is the sason for telling people what they want to hear.

Of course, all your troubles are over. You will have nothing but blue 
skys!


>When tried to turn on computer today kept getting the same low voltage
>system message, whether I had other USB devices plugged into the computer or
>not, no matter what I did (turn computer on and off, turn off power on surge
>protector).  So finally changed the CMOS battery and, voila, computer has
>started up okay 3 times in a row (last 2 were tests).  So, does this mean
>those who suggested the battery was the problem in the first place were
>right and that I don't have to worry about the computer's power supply?
>Please say yes!  Don't need any further computer tricks, just treats.


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[CGUYS] Powerbook G3 keyboard

[Stephen Brownfield]

One of our dogs spilled coffee on my wife's Powerbook G3 keyboard 
(Bronze keyboard). Now a few of the keys don't work. I know I can pick a 
keyboard for it off ebay, but where can I get instructions on how to 
replace it?

Thanks

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Re: [CGUYS] Powerbook G3 keyboard

[Steve Rigby]

On Oct 31, 2008, at 10:06 PM, Stephen Brownfield wrote:

One of our dogs spilled coffee on my wife's Powerbook G3 keyboard  
(Bronze keyboard). Now a few of the keys don't work. I know I can  
pick a keyboard for it off ebay, but where can I get instructions on  
how to replace it?

Thanks


  Try looking here:  http://www.ifixit.com/

  Steve


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[CGUYS] Download limits

[Rev. Stewart Marshall]

This page was forwarded to you from the My Way Web site 
(<http://www.myway.com>www.myway.com)


From: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED]

URL: 
<http://apnews.myway.com//article/20081031/D945NMS81.html>http://apnews.myway.com//article/20081031/D945NMS81.html


Message: Another company sets limits on downloads. Comcasts limit is 
here listed as 250GB a month.


Rev. Stewart A. Marshall
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