Re: [CGUYS] Revealed Truth
And so legally you twist the definition because certain members of the military agreed to have it done to them with their training. What contract did the prisoners at Guantanamo(sp) sign? And what about the law against any contract under duress? The argument is BS. Jeff M I think this whole question is real simple. When others did this to OUR servicemen, we thought it was torture. What else really needs to be said? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Revealed Truth
Think of those massive profits Al Gore has been racking up.. Well, actually, Gore donates the profits from his environmental activities, including the books and the movie, to a nonprofit. Most of his wealth is from his Apple and Google stock. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Revealed Truth
On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 8:30 AM, Chris Dunford seed...@gmail.com wrote: I think this whole question is real simple. When others did this to OUR servicemen, we thought it was torture. What else really needs to be said? Those who support physically abusive interrogation techniques, AKA torture when done to us, simply say that it is righteous when we do it because we are the good guys. Just think Jack Bauer. I also suggest observations of how routine it is to see TV cop shows display gratuitous beatings delivered by police questioners. More grease for the slippery slope? Anyone remember Johnny Mike Spann, the apparently cruel and diabolical CIA interrogator in Afghanistan who's abusive tactics resulted in his murder and a huge prison uprising over there years back. He was honored here in the U.S., but reviled in most of the rest of the world that knew of the situation in which he was involved. I think that event was the handwriting on the wall that should have been enough to have been able to prevent what happened at Abu Gharib. Instead, our intelligence community, Justice Department and Executive Branch decided that they liked it. Keeping this on topic, it was the use of computers that brought the abuses at Abu Gharib to light although bringing it to light was not the initial intent. Instead, pure and unadulterated titillation and entertainment was the initial intent. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] How do I change the sizes pf the partirions?
My C: Drive has two partitions. One is much smaller and has the programs, windows, etc. The other much larger has only two files because I have a D: Drive with my data. How to I make C: without a partition? Or at least increase the first C: partition and decrease the second? Do I have to have a program to do this? Many thanks to you all, again. Marcio (from Belo Horizonte, Brazil after living ans working 30 years in the USA...) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Revealed Truth
I am not legally twisting anything, nor am I supporting the policy. You are simply starting from a conclusion and rejecting any logic incompatible with your conclusion. That has not place in law or science. I am not arguing what we did or did not do was right. I am not arguing what we did was useful. Neither of those opinions informs a discussion of what the controlling law is. Matthew On May 16, 2009, at 11:35 PM, Jeff Miles wrote: And so legally you twist the definition because certain members of the military agreed to have it done to them with their training. What contract did the prisoners at Guantanamo(sp) sign? And what about the law against any contract under duress? The argument is BS. Jeff M On May 16, 2009, at 8:06 PM, Matthew Taylor wrote: The law in an ass, and always has been as it is an imperfect creation of an imperfect institution put in pl;ace by imperfect beings. Nevertheless, the law determines what is legal. Either you argue that every POTUS, ever chairman of the Joint Cheifs, and much of the senior command staff are criminals because they approved and implemented SERE and SERE = torture, or you can not argue that identical practices are criminal torture. There are many places where the common usage definition of a term does not match the legal definition, but in matters of law it is the legal definition that is controlling. Matthew On May 16, 2009, at 9:55 PM, Jeff Miles wrote: Yes, I've heard this argument, and it's stupid. Because we torture our own servicemen and call it training doesn't change what it is. However, it is a good game. I wonder how many other definitions we can change to suit our legal needs? Jeff M On May 16, 2009, at 4:52 PM, Matthew Taylor wrote: The problem is the legal reasoning that says it was not torture is quite sound - the key being that as I understand it we did nothing that we do not do to our own servicemen in the resistance portion of SERE (Survival, Evasion, Resistance, and Escape) training. If the assumption is that we are not torturing our own servicemen, then doing the same to others might be extremely poor judgement in the circumstances, might be held to be wrong for a variety of reasons, but it still would not be torture. Matthew * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http:// www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http:// www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] How do I change the sizes pf the partirions?
My C: Drive has two partitions. One is much smaller and has the programs, windows, etc. The other much larger has only two files because I have a D: Drive with my data. How to I make C: without a partition? Or at least increase the first C: partition and decrease the second? Do I have to have a program to do this? Do you really want to do this? Why not just use the partition as it is? Any time you do something like this there is a risk that everything on the drive will be lost or that the drive will start to work strangely. Why not just enjoy the computer as it is? If you need more space, just add a drive. A big new hard drive will cost you less than the commercial software that changes partition size. (Read that last sentence twice.) http://gparted.sourceforge.org is free, but probably too much fun. Acronis Disk Director is $50 and has a decent reputation Partition Magic ($70) used to be great, but was bought by Symantec and has gone the way of all things Symantec -- expensive and buggy. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] How do I change the sizes pf the partirions?
Again, excellent advice. You are becoming a psychoanalist... Why did I decide to do this? Obssessive compulsive traits?... Marcio -Original Message- From: Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com Sent: May 17, 2009 11:17 AM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] How do I change the sizes pf the partirions? My C: Drive has two partitions. One is much smaller and has the programs, windows, etc. The other much larger has only two files because I have a D: Drive with my data. How to I make C: without a partition? Or at least increase the first C: partition and decrease the second? Do I have to have a program to do this? Do you really want to do this? Why not just use the partition as it is? Any time you do something like this there is a risk that everything on the drive will be lost or that the drive will start to work strangely. Why not just enjoy the computer as it is? If you need more space, just add a drive. A big new hard drive will cost you less than the commercial software that changes partition size. (Read that last sentence twice.) http://gparted.sourceforge.org is free, but probably too much fun. Acronis Disk Director is $50 and has a decent reputation Partition Magic ($70) used to be great, but was bought by Symantec and has gone the way of all things Symantec -- expensive and buggy. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Revealed Truth
Right...and the company he chairs and partly owns that does the 'carbon offsets', he makes nothing? On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 5:29 AM, Chris Dunford seed...@gmail.com wrote: Think of those massive profits Al Gore has been racking up.. Well, actually, Gore donates the profits from his environmental activities, including the books and the movie, to a nonprofit. Most of his wealth is from his Apple and Google stock. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] How do I change the sizes pf the partirions?
gparted is as much fun as you can have with a partition manager... Acronis is a lifesaver. Nothing like being back up and running complete with programs etc in ten minutes off a brand new drive. On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 8:17 AM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: http://gparted.sourceforge.org is free, but probably too much fun. Acronis Disk Director is $50 and has a decent reputation * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Revealed Truth
Do you think what trainees experience in a training exercise, in a controlled situation, at the hands of people they trust, is the same as what the prisoners experienced? Matthew Taylor wrote: I am not legally twisting anything, nor am I supporting the policy. You are simply starting from a conclusion and rejecting any logic incompatible with your conclusion. That has not place in law or science. I am not arguing what we did or did not do was right. I am not arguing what we did was useful. Neither of those opinions informs a discussion of what the controlling law is. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Revealed Truth
Capitalists thrive only when their profit margin generates a customer's margin. That is when the capitalist's reward for producing roughly matches the value of the customer's satisfaction beyond the price paid. In these difficult times we should try genuine capitalism, as Adam Smith explained it in The Theory of Moral Sentiments... But that is not where the big profits are. A great example is M$ vs. Apple. (And this will hopefully put us back on topic.) Apple thrives by boosting the customer's margin. In fact if you look at the I'm a Mac ad series I think you will find that most of the ads are just about that -- how Apple boosts the customer's margin. In contrast I see M$ making its money by grabbing its customers by the balls and making them pay. They hook businesses in with the promise of low prices and big savings, insinuate themselves into the core of the business, and then start making demands. Essentially, pay up or we pull our software and you go out of business. That's why such a business puts great emphasis on linking everything they make to everything else they make, while not working well with other company's software, and killing competitors. They want to be very sure that their prey has nowhere to run to. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] How do I change the sizes pf the partirions?
Again, excellent advice. You are becoming a psychoanalist... Why did I decide to do this? Obssessive compulsive traits?... Well you do know I think that anyone using a PC needs psychological intervention. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] How do I change the sizes pf the partirions?
If I'm not mistaken, I don't think Symantec even supports Partiton Magic any more. Last time I looked, version 8 was the latest (had been for a few years) and I thougth there was no further development. And Ver 8 does NOT work on Vista. Too bad, I always thought that PM was the best of the class. Michael Partition Magic ($70) used to be great, but was bought by Symantec and has gone the way of all things Symantec -- expensive and buggy. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] How do I change the sizes pf the partirions?
If I'm not mistaken, I don't think Symantec even supports Partiton Magic any more. Last time I looked, version 8 was the latest (had been for a few years) and I thougth there was no further development. And Ver 8 does NOT work on Vista. Isn't that Symantec's MO: buy a popular product, invest nothing, raise the price, keep selling it as long as possible. They still sell version 8. Since PM runs booted from the CD I don't think it matters what version of the OS is on the drive. Has M$ made any changes to NTFS that would matter? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] How do I change the sizes pf the partirions?
I can't speak to whatever changes who made to what, I can just tell you that PM8 is NOT vista compatible. I tried and failed. Still works great on my XP systems and so I keep it for that. I use Acronis and/or Paragon now, and they are each fine, but PM was always my favourite in terms of ease of use, reliability and just plain confidence levels. You need confidence if you are going to muck around in partitions :) Michael From: Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2009 3:42:38 PM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] How do I change the sizes pf the partirions? If I'm not mistaken, I don't think Symantec even supports Partition Magic any more. Last time I looked, version 8 was the latest (had been for a few years) and I thought there was no further development. And Ver 8 does NOT work on Vista. Isn't that Symantec's MO: buy a popular product, invest nothing, raise the price, keep selling it as long as possible. They still sell version 8. Since PM runs booted from the CD I don't think it matters what version of the OS is on the drive. Has M$ made any changes to NTFSthat would matter? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] How do I change the sizes pf the partirions?
In your new Vista, you can simply use Disk Manager for this. On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 9:32 AM, Marcio m...@ix.netcom.com wrote: My C: Drive has two partitions. One is much smaller and has the programs, windows, etc. The other much larger has only two files because I have a D: Drive with my data. How to I make C: without a partition? Or at least increase the first C: partition and decrease the second? Do I have to have a program to do this? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] NeoOffice 3.0/Mac PPC or Intel vs. OpenOffice 2.4/Mac PPC vs. OpenOffice 3.1/Mac Intel ?
1. I have an iMac PPC. Some (day? year?) I'll buy an iMac Intel. 2. The latest version of NeoOffice is 3.0, and it runs on Mac PPC and Mac Intel. 3. The latest version of OpenOffice is 3.1, and it runs on Mac Intel but not Mac PPC. 4. The latest version of OpenOffice that runs on Mac PPC is 2.4. I think that for now I'm better off using NeoOffice 3.0 rather than OpenOffice 2.4, and that when I get an iMac Intel, evaluate switching from NeoOffice X.Y to OpenOffice X.(Y+1). Opinions? If I do switch to OpenOffice, will there be difficult file conversion issues? Should I therefore start with OpenOffice 2.4? Or is NeoOffice best regardless of microprocessor? Opinions? What about file conversion issues between NeoOffice MS Office? What about file conversion issues between OpenOffice MS Office? I searched OpenOffice.org for answers, but didn't find much. FYI: Ratings from PC Magazine: Office Suites - Archive OpenOffice.org 3.0 Editor: 3.5/5 Readers: 4/5 MS Office 2008 for Mac Editor: 3/5 Readers: 1/5 Thanks in advance. Thanks, Alvin * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Revealed Truth
In contrast I see M$ making its money by grabbing its customers by the balls and making them pay. They hook businesses in with the promise of low prices and big savings, insinuate themselves into the core of the business, and then start making demands. Essentially, pay up or we pull our software and you go out of business. Wow. Bullshit this thick usually comes with a disclaimer to avoid personal injury lawsuits being filed against you. I know organizations still running Exchange 5.5, released in 1997. They haven't had any bloody ears mailed to them. Come to think of it, I haven't ever seen any ransom notes with letters cut out from magazines and newspapers in my mailbox either, and I get my MS software on the cheap. You're going to have to stop drinking so early in the day if you're going to post. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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Apple thrives by boosting their profit margin. In fact if you look at the I'm a Mac ad series I think you will find that most of the ads are just about that -- how Apple boosts the customer's wallet. FTFY * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Revealed Truth
Agreed. Jeff M On May 17, 2009, at 5:30 AM, Chris Dunford wrote: And so legally you twist the definition because certain members of the military agreed to have it done to them with their training. What contract did the prisoners at Guantanamo(sp) sign? And what about the law against any contract under duress? The argument is BS. Jeff M I think this whole question is real simple. When others did this to OUR servicemen, we thought it was torture. What else really needs to be said? ** *** ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http:// www.cguys.org/ ** ** *** * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] How do I change the sizes pf the partirions?
In your new Vista, you can simply use Disk Manager for this. I did a little digging. With Vi$ta M$ changed the way drives have been partitioned for the last 30 years. So any older partitioning utility will create partitions that fail to boot -- so don't use those anymore. Fortunately, starting with Vi$sa you can resize partitions using its Disk Management Console. That's an improvement. This is probably why you can't mix older OSs on the same drive as Vista and why they want you to format the drive when installing Vi$ta. It also means that running a Unix and Vi$ta off the same drive is going to be interesting. From what I have read, M$ is not giving out much information about what has changed. Why am I not surprised? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] How do I change the sizes pf the partirions?
For free: http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/easily-create-edit-windows-partitions-with-partitionmagic/ _ Hotmail® has ever-growing storage! Don’t worry about storage limits. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/Storage?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_Storage1_052009 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] How do I change the sizes pf the partirions?
You can resize partitions from Vista's computer management console. On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 12:42 PM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: If I'm not mistaken, I don't think Symantec even supports Partiton Magic any more. Last time I looked, version 8 was the latest (had been for a few years) and I thougth there was no further development. And Ver 8 does NOT work on Vista. Isn't that Symantec's MO: buy a popular product, invest nothing, raise the price, keep selling it as long as possible. They still sell version 8. Since PM runs booted from the CD I don't think it matters what version of the OS is on the drive. Has M$ made any changes to NTFS that would matter? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Revealed Truth
To a point you're right. But what's being argued is the interpretation of the controlling law. And if that interpretation was manipulated to suit the desires of a few. On May 17, 2009, at 8:11 AM, Matthew Taylor wrote: I am not legally twisting anything, nor am I supporting the policy. You are simply starting from a conclusion and rejecting any logic incompatible with your conclusion. That has not place in law or science. I am not arguing what we did or did not do was right. I am not arguing what we did was useful. Neither of those opinions informs a discussion of what the controlling law is. Matthew On May 16, 2009, at 11:35 PM, Jeff Miles wrote: And so legally you twist the definition because certain members of the military agreed to have it done to them with their training. What contract did the prisoners at Guantanamo(sp) sign? And what about the law against any contract under duress? The argument is BS. Jeff M On May 16, 2009, at 8:06 PM, Matthew Taylor wrote: The law in an ass, and always has been as it is an imperfect creation of an imperfect institution put in pl;ace by imperfect beings. Nevertheless, the law determines what is legal. Either you argue that every POTUS, ever chairman of the Joint Cheifs, and much of the senior command staff are criminals because they approved and implemented SERE and SERE = torture, or you can not argue that identical practices are criminal torture. There are many places where the common usage definition of a term does not match the legal definition, but in matters of law it is the legal definition that is controlling. Matthew On May 16, 2009, at 9:55 PM, Jeff Miles wrote: Yes, I've heard this argument, and it's stupid. Because we torture our own servicemen and call it training doesn't change what it is. However, it is a good game. I wonder how many other definitions we can change to suit our legal needs? Jeff M On May 16, 2009, at 4:52 PM, Matthew Taylor wrote: The problem is the legal reasoning that says it was not torture is quite sound - the key being that as I understand it we did nothing that we do not do to our own servicemen in the resistance portion of SERE (Survival, Evasion, Resistance, and Escape) training. If the assumption is that we are not torturing our own servicemen, then doing the same to others might be extremely poor judgement in the circumstances, might be held to be wrong for a variety of reasons, but it still would not be torture. Matthew * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http:// www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http:// www.cguys.org/ ** * ** *** ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http:// www.cguys.org/ ** ** *** * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Revealed Truth
So when is it not? Every time we change political parties it seems each one wants to rewrite what has already taken place. Stewart At 04:49 PM 5/17/2009, you wrote: To a point you're right. But what's being argued is the interpretation of the controlling law. And if that interpretation was manipulated to suit the desires of a few. On May 17, 2009, at 8:11 AM, Matthew Taylor wrote: I am not legally twisting anything, nor am I supporting the policy. You are simply starting from a conclusion and rejecting any logic incompatible with your conclusion. That has not place in law or science. I am not arguing what we did or did not do was right. I am not arguing what we did was useful. Neither of those opinions informs a discussion of what the controlling law is. Matthew On May 16, 2009, at 11:35 PM, Jeff Miles wrote: And so legally you twist the definition because certain members of the military agreed to have it done to them with their training. What contract did the prisoners at Guantanamo(sp) sign? And what about the law against any contract under duress? The argument is BS. Jeff M Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] How do I change the sizes pf the partirions?
From what I have read, M$ is not giving out much information about what has changed. Why am I not surprised? Results 1 - 10 of about 4,090,000 for vista disk management http://www.google.com/search?q=vista+disk+managementrls=com.microsoft:en-us ie=UTF-8oe=UTF-8startIndex=startPage=1 Heck, I'll give you the first one, no extra charge: http://www.tweakvista.com/articles/38991/resize-partitions-with-vista-disk-m anagement/ Posted 6/28/2006 1.Click on the Start Button and right click on Computer and select Manage. 2.Expand the Storage section and select Disk Management. 3.Then just right click on any partition and select either Expand or Shrink to change the size of the partition. 4. Wipe brow. Only 4,089,999 to go. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] How do I change the sizes pf the partirions?
Vista's repartition function isn't great though. I tried to diddle with the partitions on the wife's laptop and was unable to get C: down to the 50gb I wanted; I believe I had to settle for like 75gb/150. There was only 10G on C:, so I know Partition Magic would have done it. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] How do I change the sizes pf the partirions?
Yes I had used it before. It was fun. I think I still have an old one (Version 4?)...before it went Symantec... Marcio -Original Message- From: Michael Wosnick mwosn...@rogers.com Sent: May 17, 2009 4:02 PM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] How do I change the sizes pf the partirions? If I'm not mistaken, I don't think Symantec even supports Partiton Magic any more. Last time I looked, version 8 was the latest (had been for a few years) and I thougth there was no further development. And Ver 8 does NOT work on Vista. Too bad, I always thought that PM was the best of the class. Michael Partition Magic ($70) used to be great, but was bought by Symantec and has gone the way of all things Symantec -- expensive and buggy. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] How do I change the sizes pf the partirions?
I know, I know...you give a hand and the person wants the arm... Human nature... So far I can´t imagine me moving to a Mac... Marcio -Original Message- From: Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com Sent: May 17, 2009 1:20 PM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] How do I change the sizes pf the partirions? Again, excellent advice. You are becoming a psychoanalist... Why did I decide to do this? Obssessive compulsive traits?... Well you do know I think that anyone using a PC needs psychological intervention. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] How do I change the sizes pf the partirions?
Well, perhaps I can still use my old Version... but I am nor invested on this... Marcio -Original Message- From: Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com Sent: May 17, 2009 4:42 PM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] How do I change the sizes pf the partirions? If I'm not mistaken, I don't think Symantec even supports Partiton Magic any more. Last time I looked, version 8 was the latest (had been for a few years) and I thougth there was no further development. And Ver 8 does NOT work on Vista. Isn't that Symantec's MO: buy a popular product, invest nothing, raise the price, keep selling it as long as possible. They still sell version 8. Since PM runs booted from the CD I don't think it matters what version of the OS is on the drive. Has M$ made any changes to NTFS that would matter? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] How do I change the sizes pf the partirions?
I know, I know...you give a hand and the person wants the arm... Human nature... So far I can´t imagine me moving to a Mac... And it would be so dull around here without your computer adventures. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] How do I change the sizes pf the partirions?
Well, perhaps I can still use my old Version... but I am nor invested on this... Since you are using XP, which still uses the original partitiona method, this might be a reasonable thing to do. Backup everything and don't blame us for any misfortune. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] NeoOffice 3.0/Mac PPC or Intel vs. OpenOffice 2.4/Mac PPC vs. OpenOffice 3.1/Mac Intel ?
1. I have an iMac PPC. Some (day? year?) I'll buy an iMac Intel. 2. The latest version of NeoOffice is 3.0, and it runs on Mac PPC and Mac Intel. 3. The latest version of OpenOffice is 3.1, and it runs on Mac Intel but not Mac PPC. 4. The latest version of OpenOffice that runs on Mac PPC is 2.4. I think that for now I'm better off using NeoOffice 3.0 rather than OpenOffice 2.4, and that when I get an iMac Intel, evaluate switching from NeoOffice X.Y to OpenOffice X.(Y+1). Opinions? You're better off with NeoOffice, unless you have installed X11 or are willing to install X11 on your Mac. OpenOffice up until 3.0 required X11 to function on the Mac, which is why NeoOffice exists. It's also a port of OpenOffice. It's similar in function to OpenOffice, just a port for the Mac. It works as is, why mess with it? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
