Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...
I understand the feeling I still build my own. But sometimes you have to dump a problem (your local shop) and go with someone who has a pretty good proven track record. Plus with the right warranty they will be there and fix it under your supervision. Stewart At 08:42 PM 9/1/2009, you wrote: Dell? No, I am always doing generic computers... I buy the parts... This is no good? Marcio Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...
Dell? No, I am always doing generic computers... I buy the parts... This is no good? Marcio -Original Message- >From: "Rev. Stewart Marshall" >Sent: Sep 1, 2009 9:59 PM >To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM >Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit... > >Actually Dells rank a little higher on the quality scale than HP's >and I think even Gateways now. > >Stewart > >At 07:54 PM 9/1/2009, you wrote: >>Quoting Marcio : >> >>>What do you mean by Dells? >> >>Dell computers. www.dell.com They build computers. It would be like >>getting an HP or a Gateway or--gods forbid--a Mac. They build a fairly >>quality machine. >> >> >>* >>** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** >>** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** >>* > >Rev. Stewart A. Marshall >mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net >Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org >Ozark, AL SL 82 > > >* >** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** >** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** >* * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...
I know, I know... the patients always improve... the psychiatrists don´t. Would you believe that I lied in a couch for three and half years, four times a week (50 minutes) at a time that there were no computers?...What that didit do for me? I played the harmonica a little better... Marcio -Original Message- >From: Chris Dunford >Sent: Sep 1, 2009 9:52 PM >To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM >Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit... > >> Marcio you know what they say about a doctor who tries to cure himself >> >> Stewart > >Rev, it's back to Aphorisms 101 for you. Aren't you thinking of lawyers? "A >lawyer who represents himself has a fool for a client." > >But for doctors: "Physician, heal thyself". I'm not convinced that's sound >advice for psychiatrists, though. :) > > >* >** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** >** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** >* * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...
Actually Dells rank a little higher on the quality scale than HP's and I think even Gateways now. Stewart At 07:54 PM 9/1/2009, you wrote: Quoting Marcio : What do you mean by Dells? Dell computers. www.dell.com They build computers. It would be like getting an HP or a Gateway or--gods forbid--a Mac. They build a fairly quality machine. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...
I know I was rejiggering it. Stewart At 07:52 PM 9/1/2009, you wrote: > Marcio you know what they say about a doctor who tries to cure himself > > Stewart Rev, it's back to Aphorisms 101 for you. Aren't you thinking of lawyers? "A lawyer who represents himself has a fool for a client." But for doctors: "Physician, heal thyself". I'm not convinced that's sound advice for psychiatrists, though. :) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...
> Marcio you know what they say about a doctor who tries to cure himself > > Stewart Rev, it's back to Aphorisms 101 for you. Aren't you thinking of lawyers? "A lawyer who represents himself has a fool for a client." But for doctors: "Physician, heal thyself". I'm not convinced that's sound advice for psychiatrists, though. :) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...
Quoting Marcio : What do you mean by Dells? Dell computers. www.dell.com They build computers. It would be like getting an HP or a Gateway or--gods forbid--a Mac. They build a fairly quality machine. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...
Marcio you know what they say about a doctor who tries to cure himself Stewart At 07:23 PM 9/1/2009, you wrote: I know, I am trying to work on my masoquist traits... with my analyst: myself. Marcio -Original Message- >From: db >Sent: Sep 1, 2009 2:51 PM >To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM >Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit... > >Marcio, > >You are you own worst enemy! ... but as you say you love it. > >We all ... most of us anyway ... just wish you would do the easy and >more inexpensive thing by leaving that boat anchor on the bottom where >it now rests and belongs for all eternity and just get a computer off >the shelf that is current and works. > >That shop is your enabler as in ... a unhealthy codependent relationship. > >But I guess if you got a Dell, we'd never hear from you again... > >:) > >When you come up and get that chip for your "Jones", pick up a Dell too >at the same time ... for your computing. > >db Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...
Dell computers. www.dell.com They also have an outlet where they sell off lease computers and refurbs. I know you do not have a Dell. Marcio you have a shop built computer. I was responding to the guy who suggested you buy one while up here. Stewart At 07:16 PM 9/1/2009, you wrote: What do you mean by Dells? Marcio -Original Message- >From: db >Sent: Sep 1, 2009 4:16 PM >To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM >Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit... > >Well actually I might have been. Are you allowed to take Dells out of >the States? > >db > >TPiwowar wrote: >> On Sep 1, 2009, at 2:51 PM Sep 1, db wrote: >>> We all ... most of us anyway ... just wish you would do the easy and >>> more inexpensive thing by leaving that boat anchor on the bottom >>> where it now rests and belongs for all eternity and just get a >>> computer off the shelf that is current and works. >> >> Are you suggesting that Marcio do something illegal with his hardware? >> PCs are toxic waste! >> >> >> >> >> * >> ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** >> ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** >> * >> > > >* >** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** >** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** >* * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...
I know, I am trying to work on my masoquist traits... with my analyst: myself. Marcio -Original Message- >From: db >Sent: Sep 1, 2009 2:51 PM >To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM >Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit... > >Marcio, > >You are you own worst enemy! ... but as you say you love it. > >We all ... most of us anyway ... just wish you would do the easy and >more inexpensive thing by leaving that boat anchor on the bottom where >it now rests and belongs for all eternity and just get a computer off >the shelf that is current and works. > >That shop is your enabler as in ... a unhealthy codependent relationship. > >But I guess if you got a Dell, we'd never hear from you again... > >:) > >When you come up and get that chip for your "Jones", pick up a Dell too >at the same time ... for your computing. > >db > >Marcio wrote: >> Sorry to take your time guys. As I said before, to some extent I enjoy >> computers and its vicissitudes... Talked with shop right now. I have a >> generic computer with an ASUS Mobo and a Pentium 4 (I believe 2.6). It was >> giving me all kinds of problems. It had Windows XP Pro and I have the Vista >> Upgrade. >> >> They said that when they get the computer ON in AM the processor temperature >> goes to 60 degrees but when they installed Vista the temperature went much >> higher and the computer stopped. They said that the solution is a new >> Pentium 4 Chip which I just bought and will bring back to them in the end of >> the month (I will be in Baltimore in September). I just want to see if the >> computer will work with the new Pentium 4, and if they can install Windows >> Vista so that I may upgrade when Windows 7 comes in. The guy said that they >> will do it...with the new chip. I am concerned... >> >> By the beginning of October I will give you all a follow up... >> >> Many thanks >> >> Marcio >> >> -Original Message- >> >>> From: Chris Dunford >>> Sent: Sep 1, 2009 7:37 AM >>> To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@listserv.aol.com >>> Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit... >>> >>> I sent it to the shop. They were going to start from zero with Windows Vista. Then they called me to say that I should not do this becuase of many drivers. They thought I should do it with the XP Professional. >>> Marcio, I said this the first time, and I'll say it again: You need to find >>> a new computer shop. Last time they said that MS was taking Vista off the >>> market because of "too many bugs". This time it's the drivers. There is no >>> problem with Vista and "many drivers". These people do not know what >>> they're talking about. >>> >>> I second the recommendations about Dell. They're not expensive, and they're >>> reliable. This isn't worth your time. >>> >>> >>> * >>> ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** >>> ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** >>> * >>> >> >> >> * >> ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** >> ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** >> * >> >> > > >* >** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** >** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** >* * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...
What do you mean by Dells? Marcio -Original Message- >From: db >Sent: Sep 1, 2009 4:16 PM >To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM >Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit... > >Well actually I might have been. Are you allowed to take Dells out of >the States? > >db > >TPiwowar wrote: >> On Sep 1, 2009, at 2:51 PM Sep 1, db wrote: >>> We all ... most of us anyway ... just wish you would do the easy and >>> more inexpensive thing by leaving that boat anchor on the bottom >>> where it now rests and belongs for all eternity and just get a >>> computer off the shelf that is current and works. >> >> Are you suggesting that Marcio do something illegal with his hardware? >> PCs are toxic waste! >> >> >> >> >> * >> ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** >> ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** >> * >> > > >* >** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** >** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** >* * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...
I don´t have a Dell Rev. I have a generic computer. Marcio -Original Message- >From: "Rev. Stewart Marshall" >Sent: Sep 1, 2009 4:46 PM >To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM >Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit... > >Yes and no. It depends on what is in them plus you void the warranty. > >I know Dell has a Canadian outlet (my in laws.) > >So I assume that they also have one in South America, Brazil. > >Stewart > > >At 03:16 PM 9/1/2009, you wrote: >>Well actually I might have been. Are you allowed to take Dells out >>of the States? >> >>db >> >>TPiwowar wrote: >>>On Sep 1, 2009, at 2:51 PM Sep 1, db wrote: We all ... most of us anyway ... just wish you would do the easy and more inexpensive thing by leaving that boat anchor on the bottom where it now rests and belongs for all eternity and just get a computer off the shelf that is current and works. >>> >>>Are you suggesting that Marcio do something illegal with his >>>hardware? PCs are toxic waste! >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>* >>>** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** >>>** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** >>>* >> >> >>* >>** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** >>** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** >>* > >Rev. Stewart A. Marshall >mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net >Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org >Ozark, AL SL 82 > > >* >** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** >** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** >* I don´t have a Dell * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...
It could be a field goal but with your glasses you won't see anything anyway. On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 1:01 PM, TPiwowar wrote: > On Sep 1, 2009, at 10:06 AM Sep 1, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: > >> Depends on what he is comfortable with. >> > > I just wiped a drive this a.m. and reinstalled M$'s latest good OS: Win XP. > > Why provide Apple with more fodder for its commercials? > > M$ is making its usual promises for the next OS, but I suspect it will be > just another episode of Charlie Brown trying to kick that football, > > > > > > * > ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** > ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** > * > * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] What really happens to the computers we recycle?
Oddly MFB's have the same psychological issue. On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 1:12 PM, TPiwowar wrote: > On Sep 1, 2009, at 11:40 AM Sep 1, Jordan wrote: > >> We've had 8 years, really many more since it started before Reagan, of >> tearing down regulations. It doesn't work.(like we didn't already know that) >> Look where we are now. We need freedom for people, not freedom of >> corporations to take advantage of people. >> > > Criminals usually think they are in the right and it is the cops who have > it all wrong. Just look at Dick Cheney's latest pronouncements. > > > > > > * > ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** > ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** > * > * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...
Yes and no. It depends on what is in them plus you void the warranty. I know Dell has a Canadian outlet (my in laws.) So I assume that they also have one in South America, Brazil. Stewart At 03:16 PM 9/1/2009, you wrote: Well actually I might have been. Are you allowed to take Dells out of the States? db TPiwowar wrote: On Sep 1, 2009, at 2:51 PM Sep 1, db wrote: We all ... most of us anyway ... just wish you would do the easy and more inexpensive thing by leaving that boat anchor on the bottom where it now rests and belongs for all eternity and just get a computer off the shelf that is current and works. Are you suggesting that Marcio do something illegal with his hardware? PCs are toxic waste! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...
Well actually I might have been. Are you allowed to take Dells out of the States? db TPiwowar wrote: On Sep 1, 2009, at 2:51 PM Sep 1, db wrote: We all ... most of us anyway ... just wish you would do the easy and more inexpensive thing by leaving that boat anchor on the bottom where it now rests and belongs for all eternity and just get a computer off the shelf that is current and works. Are you suggesting that Marcio do something illegal with his hardware? PCs are toxic waste! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] What really happens to the computers we recycle?
On Sep 1, 2009, at 11:40 AM Sep 1, Jordan wrote: We've had 8 years, really many more since it started before Reagan, of tearing down regulations. It doesn't work.(like we didn't already know that) Look where we are now. We need freedom for people, not freedom of corporations to take advantage of people. Criminals usually think they are in the right and it is the cops who have it all wrong. Just look at Dick Cheney's latest pronouncements. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...
On Sep 1, 2009, at 10:06 AM Sep 1, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: Depends on what he is comfortable with. I just wiped a drive this a.m. and reinstalled M$'s latest good OS: Win XP. Why provide Apple with more fodder for its commercials? M$ is making its usual promises for the next OS, but I suspect it will be just another episode of Charlie Brown trying to kick that football, * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...
On Sep 1, 2009, at 2:51 PM Sep 1, db wrote: We all ... most of us anyway ... just wish you would do the easy and more inexpensive thing by leaving that boat anchor on the bottom where it now rests and belongs for all eternity and just get a computer off the shelf that is current and works. Are you suggesting that Marcio do something illegal with his hardware? PCs are toxic waste! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...
Marcio, You are you own worst enemy! ... but as you say you love it. We all ... most of us anyway ... just wish you would do the easy and more inexpensive thing by leaving that boat anchor on the bottom where it now rests and belongs for all eternity and just get a computer off the shelf that is current and works. That shop is your enabler as in ... a unhealthy codependent relationship. But I guess if you got a Dell, we'd never hear from you again... :) When you come up and get that chip for your "Jones", pick up a Dell too at the same time ... for your computing. db Marcio wrote: Sorry to take your time guys. As I said before, to some extent I enjoy computers and its vicissitudes... Talked with shop right now. I have a generic computer with an ASUS Mobo and a Pentium 4 (I believe 2.6). It was giving me all kinds of problems. It had Windows XP Pro and I have the Vista Upgrade. They said that when they get the computer ON in AM the processor temperature goes to 60 degrees but when they installed Vista the temperature went much higher and the computer stopped. They said that the solution is a new Pentium 4 Chip which I just bought and will bring back to them in the end of the month (I will be in Baltimore in September). I just want to see if the computer will work with the new Pentium 4, and if they can install Windows Vista so that I may upgrade when Windows 7 comes in. The guy said that they will do it...with the new chip. I am concerned... By the beginning of October I will give you all a follow up... Many thanks Marcio -Original Message- From: Chris Dunford Sent: Sep 1, 2009 7:37 AM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@listserv.aol.com Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit... I sent it to the shop. They were going to start from zero with Windows Vista. Then they called me to say that I should not do this becuase of many drivers. They thought I should do it with the XP Professional. Marcio, I said this the first time, and I'll say it again: You need to find a new computer shop. Last time they said that MS was taking Vista off the market because of "too many bugs". This time it's the drivers. There is no problem with Vista and "many drivers". These people do not know what they're talking about. I second the recommendations about Dell. They're not expensive, and they're reliable. This isn't worth your time. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Power strip
WoW! These are great Betty. I was wondering myself what I was going to do when I needed to replace my Interex. Even though most of us don't use CRT's anymore it still is so handy to have front and center a switch console that turns various peripherals, lights etc off and on ... Their scarcity is a reflection that IT marketing is no longer dominated by geeks ... Got love pocket protectors to appreciate these switches... db b_s-wilk wrote: Chris - Found some interesting solutions. First stop was at familiar places--musiciansfriend.com, then guitarcenter.com. Then I found a blog at msdn with some good links, "Wanted: Power Strip with Switches" - http://blogs.msdn.com/andypennell/archive/2006/06/13/629859.aspx. American DJ PC-100A 8-Switch ON/OFF Power Center http://tinyurl.com/6qgg9n Ultra 7-Outlet Surge and Spike Protector http://snipurl.com/rivb3 Hammond Power Block (Individually Switched) http://www.hammondmfg.com/1580.htm Wiremold - UL209BC - Allied Electronics http://snipurl.com/rivgj Tripp-lite bought Interex and has an under-monitor version, http://snipurl.com/rivmx We have 6 computers and could use a few new power switches. One of these should do well. I'm surprised that it wasn't easy to find them. Must be using the wrong search terms. :-P Betty * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...
Sorry to take your time guys. As I said before, to some extent I enjoy computers and its vicissitudes... Talked with shop right now. I have a generic computer with an ASUS Mobo and a Pentium 4 (I believe 2.6). It was giving me all kinds of problems. It had Windows XP Pro and I have the Vista Upgrade. They said that when they get the computer ON in AM the processor temperature goes to 60 degrees but when they installed Vista the temperature went much higher and the computer stopped. They said that the solution is a new Pentium 4 Chip which I just bought and will bring back to them in the end of the month (I will be in Baltimore in September). I just want to see if the computer will work with the new Pentium 4, and if they can install Windows Vista so that I may upgrade when Windows 7 comes in. The guy said that they will do it...with the new chip. I am concerned... By the beginning of October I will give you all a follow up... Many thanks Marcio -Original Message- >From: Chris Dunford >Sent: Sep 1, 2009 7:37 AM >To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@listserv.aol.com >Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit... > >> I sent it to the shop. They were going to start from zero with Windows >> Vista. Then they called me to >> say that I should not do this becuase of many drivers. They thought I should >> do it with the XP >> Professional. > >Marcio, I said this the first time, and I'll say it again: You need to find a >new computer shop. Last time they said that MS was taking Vista off the market >because of "too many bugs". This time it's the drivers. There is no problem >with Vista and "many drivers". These people do not know what they're talking >about. > >I second the recommendations about Dell. They're not expensive, and they're >reliable. This isn't worth your time. > > >* >** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** >** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** >* * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] What really happens to the computers we recycle?
This isn't logical on it's face, this says that our useless congress and senate have spent decades unmaking laws...we know this to not be true. There are regulations in the thousands more then there were years ago. On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 8:40 AM, Jordan wrote: > Bill Wajert wrote: > >> >>> To put it straight we have not been the "Land of the Free" for decades. >> We have become the "Land of the Regulated." >> >> We've had 8 years, really many more since it started before Reagan, of > tearing down regulations. It doesn't work.(like we didn't already know that) > Look where we are now. > We need freedom for people, not freedom of corporations to take advantage > of people. > > > > * > ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** > ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** > * > * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Power strip
Subject: Power strip Does anyone know of a power strip that has separate power switches for each outlet? Doesn't absolutely have to have surge suppression, although that would be a plus. The ones I can find are either all on or all off. Go to a music instrument store or look on line for the name "Furman". They make a a whole series of power conditioners and power stations. Tracy Foust Chris - Found some interesting solutions. First stop was at familiar places--musiciansfriend.com, then guitarcenter.com. Then I found a blog at msdn with some good links, "Wanted: Power Strip with Switches" - http://blogs.msdn.com/andypennell/archive/2006/06/13/629859.aspx. American DJ PC-100A 8-Switch ON/OFF Power Center http://tinyurl.com/6qgg9n Ultra 7-Outlet Surge and Spike Protector http://snipurl.com/rivb3 Hammond Power Block (Individually Switched) http://www.hammondmfg.com/1580.htm Wiremold - UL209BC - Allied Electronics http://snipurl.com/rivgj Tripp-lite bought Interex and has an under-monitor version, http://snipurl.com/rivmx We have 6 computers and could use a few new power switches. One of these should do well. I'm surprised that it wasn't easy to find them. Must be using the wrong search terms. :-P Betty * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Power strip
Yes as they get hit by spikes etc. they loose the ability to filter them out. I like them just for the power option alone with out the regulation. I would take one of those and plug it into a newer strip. That way you get protection and convenience. Still using one on the church machine. (It is over 10 years old.) Stewart At 10:52 AM 9/1/2009, you wrote: Interex is one that I have. Here's a newer model: http://gooeydoobooks.com/Interex-UMPC900TF-Surge-Suppressor/M/B001YS0EXK.htm?traffic_src=froogle&utm_medium=organic&utm_source=froogle The Kensington MasterPiece model was discontinued years ago. Will a used one still provide the protection that a newer model has? Do they degrade over time? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Power strip
Interex is one that I have. Here's a newer model: http://gooeydoobooks.com/Interex-UMPC900TF-Surge-Suppressor/M/B001YS0EXK.htm?traffic_src=froogle&utm_medium=organic&utm_source=froogle The Kensington MasterPiece model was discontinued years ago. Will a used one still provide the protection that a newer model has? Do they degrade over time? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] What really happens to the computers we recycle?
Bill Wajert wrote: To put it straight we have not been the "Land of the Free" for decades. We have become the "Land of the Regulated." We've had 8 years, really many more since it started before Reagan, of tearing down regulations. It doesn't work.(like we didn't already know that) Look where we are now. We need freedom for people, not freedom of corporations to take advantage of people. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...
Depends on what he is comfortable with. I admit I have been using Vista the last month and it is not at all as bad as I thought. It has a few quirks but I have not found a program yet that does not work with it. HOWEVER: If Marcio buys a refurbed computer there is no free upgrade I bought a new laptop this summer from Walmart for 300. It came with Vista home basic. No free upgrade. Stewart At 08:13 AM 9/1/2009, you wrote: > Not only that depending on what you get you can choose XP or Vista. I'm hard-pressed to come up with a reason to get XP at this point. Vista works fine, and most of the Dells purchased now will be eligible for an upgrade to Windows 7 when it's released next month. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...
> From: Computer Guys Discussion List [mailto:computerguy...@listserv.aol.com] > On Behalf Of Rev. Stewart > Marshall > Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 8:28 AM > To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@listserv.aol.com > Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit... > > Not only that depending on what you get you can choose XP or Vista. I'm hard-pressed to come up with a reason to get XP at this point. Vista works fine, and most of the Dells purchased now will be eligible for an upgrade to Windows 7 when it's released next month. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Snow Leopard Review
On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 12:41 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall < popoz...@earthlink.net> wrote: > What I was trying to get at is very often specialized software does not > upgrade as fast as OS's do. > > When my wife worked at a newspaper they still ran one of the first Mac's as > that is what the specialized software was written for. They ran an all Mac > office, but still kept this original (I think it was what you call a 512KB) > That was the second itteration of Mac. I had an original 128K Mac from school and upgraded it up to a Mac Plus. It ran the last time I tried it but it fell off the upgrade trail around System 7 and I had some software that wanted system 8. I have a really bad Performa Mac that was qualified as a road apple- not a good thing. It sort of runs System 9. -- John Duncan Yoyo ---o) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] What really happens to the computers we recycle?
On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 10:33 PM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: > On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 7:37 PM, Jeff Miles wrote: > > >And if keeping these jobs in America is to expensive for a > business, > > why not make it a prison job. We've got the worlds largest live in work > > force. > > To follow this suggestion would increase the incentive to put even > more people in prison. We are already very close to having the > highest percentage of population in prison as it is. I thought this > was supposed to be the "land of the free?" > > Read Larry Niven's Known Space series. He had the death penalty all the way down to parking tickets to fill the organ banks. -- John Duncan Yoyo ---o) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...
Not only that depending on what you get you can choose XP or Vista. Stewart At 05:37 AM 9/1/2009, you wrote: > I sent it to the shop. They were going to start from zero with Windows Vista. Then they called me to > say that I should not do this becuase of many drivers. They thought I should do it with the XP > Professional. Marcio, I said this the first time, and I'll say it again: You need to find a new computer shop. Last time they said that MS was taking Vista off the market because of "too many bugs". This time it's the drivers. There is no problem with Vista and "many drivers". These people do not know what they're talking about. I second the recommendations about Dell. They're not expensive, and they're reliable. This isn't worth your time. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] What really happens to the computers we recycle?
O On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 7:37 PM, Steve wrote: To follow this suggestion would increase the incentive to put even more people in prison. We are already very close to having the highest percentage of population in prison as it is. I thought this was supposed to be the "land of the free?" Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * To put it straight we have not been the "Land of the Free" for decades. We have become the "Land of the Regulated." * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...
> I sent it to the shop. They were going to start from zero with Windows Vista. > Then they called me to > say that I should not do this becuase of many drivers. They thought I should > do it with the XP > Professional. Marcio, I said this the first time, and I'll say it again: You need to find a new computer shop. Last time they said that MS was taking Vista off the market because of "too many bugs". This time it's the drivers. There is no problem with Vista and "many drivers". These people do not know what they're talking about. I second the recommendations about Dell. They're not expensive, and they're reliable. This isn't worth your time. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
