Re: [CGUYS] iPad on WAMU tomorrow
On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 7:36 PM, Constance Warner wrote: > How Apple's iPad and other new multimedia devices may change the way we > read, surf the web, watch T.V. and stay in touch How Apple's iPad and other new multimedia devices may change the way we read, surf the web, watch T.V. and stay in touch as well as drive our cars. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] A visit from NSA
On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 9:54 PM, chad evans wyatt wrote: > Anyone know about this? New, or simply more transparency? Yes, and I plead guilty. The WARNING was not inserted into the e-mail by the NSA. However, transparency is at play here because the Executive Order that established the eavesdropping is a matter of the public record. I just like to let folks know that if they think that someone is sniffing around and reading their e-mails, they are right, and we know who is doing it. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] What'll they try next?
I assume right The Iphone is at present the White Album edition. Stewart At 08:17 PM 2/2/2010, you wrote: This is like the long fabled yellow submarine edition ipod packed with the beatles catalog. On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 7:02 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall < revsamarsh...@earthlink.net> wrote: > Sure wish, the Eric Clapton edition, does it come with Layla pre installed? > > Stewart > > > > At 07:35 PM 2/2/2010, you wrote: > >> Holy Mackerel! Now they're marketing cell phones as collector's >> items. T-mobile's "Fender" special edition. Are they signed and >> numbered? Certificates of authenticity? >> >> Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] A visit from NSA
Anyone know about this? New, or simply more transparency? -- WARNING: Due to a Presidential Executive Order, the National Security Agency may have read this email without warning, warrant or notice. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] iPad on WAMU tomorrow
Sounds like the show should have been done before the ipod came out, not before the ipad. Problem is, till it came out, no one knew the next step was coming till after we took it, now that we have it's kind of a little late for this show. On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 5:36 PM, Constance Warner wrote: > FWIW, the Diane Rehm show [on WAMU-FM, an NPR station] will discuss the > iPad and similar devices tomorrow at 11:00 a.m. (For those not in the > national capitol area, the program will be available online.) > > 11:00Mobile Devices and the Next Computing Revolution > > Guest host: Susan Page > > How Apple's iPad and other new multimedia devices may change the way we > read, surf the web, watch T.V. and stay in touch > > Guests > > Jonathan Zittrain, Professor of Law, Harvard Law School, Harvard Kennedy > School of Government, and co-founder, Berkman Center for Internet & Society > author of "The Future of the Internet: And How to Stop It" > > Hooman Radfar, CEO & Co-founder, Clearspring, content distribution platform > > Josh Bernoff, Senior VP, Idea Development Forrester Research ( > www.forrester.com) Co-author of Groundswell > > > * > ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** > ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** > * > * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] iPad on WAMU tomorrow
FWIW, the Diane Rehm show [on WAMU-FM, an NPR station] will discuss the iPad and similar devices tomorrow at 11:00 a.m. (For those not in the national capitol area, the program will be available online.) 11:00Mobile Devices and the Next Computing Revolution Guest host: Susan Page How Apple's iPad and other new multimedia devices may change the way we read, surf the web, watch T.V. and stay in touch Guests Jonathan Zittrain, Professor of Law, Harvard Law School, Harvard Kennedy School of Government, and co-founder, Berkman Center for Internet & Society author of "The Future of the Internet: And How to Stop It" Hooman Radfar, CEO & Co-founder, Clearspring, content distribution platform Josh Bernoff, Senior VP, Idea Development Forrester Research (www.forrester.com) Co-author of Groundswell * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] What'll they try next?
This is like the long fabled yellow submarine edition ipod packed with the beatles catalog. On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 7:02 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall < revsamarsh...@earthlink.net> wrote: > Sure wish, the Eric Clapton edition, does it come with Layla pre installed? > > Stewart > > > > At 07:35 PM 2/2/2010, you wrote: > >> Holy Mackerel! Now they're marketing cell phones as collector's >> items. T-mobile's "Fender" special edition. Are they signed and >> numbered? Certificates of authenticity? >> >> Steve >> >> >> -- >> WARNING: Due to a Presidential Executive Order, the National Security >> Agency may have read this email without warning, warrant or notice. >> >> >> * >> ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** >> ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** >> * >> > > > * > ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** > ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** > * > * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] What'll they try next?
Sure wish, the Eric Clapton edition, does it come with Layla pre installed? Stewart At 07:35 PM 2/2/2010, you wrote: Holy Mackerel! Now they're marketing cell phones as collector's items. T-mobile's "Fender" special edition. Are they signed and numbered? Certificates of authenticity? Steve -- WARNING: Due to a Presidential Executive Order, the National Security Agency may have read this email without warning, warrant or notice. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] What'll they try next?
Least they could have picked a better phone than the HTC magic. On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 6:35 PM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: > Holy Mackerel! Now they're marketing cell phones as collector's > items. T-mobile's "Fender" special edition. Are they signed and > numbered? Certificates of authenticity? > > Steve > > > -- > WARNING: Due to a Presidential Executive Order, the National Security > Agency may have read this email without warning, warrant or notice. > > > * > ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** > ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** > * > * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] What'll they try next?
Holy Mackerel! Now they're marketing cell phones as collector's items. T-mobile's "Fender" special edition. Are they signed and numbered? Certificates of authenticity? Steve -- WARNING: Due to a Presidential Executive Order, the National Security Agency may have read this email without warning, warrant or notice. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Wireless vs. wired, just a thought to chew on
On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 2:50 PM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: > Actually, and I assumed you would understand this, I was speaking of > computer technology that is currently in general use. I think that > almost all current computer users would have to buy new equipment, > even new computers, to be able to avail themselves of what you have > brought to attention. I do not believe that even the iPad is so > equipped. Please correct me if I am wrong on the above. Answering myself here, the iPad is configured for "n." That being said, there still are not a lot of devices currently in use that can interface with the iPad that have "n," but that is not the fault of the iPad, nor is it the fault of those devices. 802.11n is relatively new to the scene, but the iPad appears to be ready for it. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] New SIM, but improved?
On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 2:17 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: > Excuse me but XLR connectors are still the standard for sound systems and > sound work. Wireless sucks! often has problems interference etc. Doesn't have the audio frequency range either. Okay for some live stage work, but for studio? Nah, not at all. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] New SIM, but improved?
On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 2:15 PM, mike wrote: > So how do I connect my blu ray and media center to my hd tv if not hdmi or > component? Tom's just being dogmatic. He mentioned wireless one time, so now he's gotta stick with it no matter what. There's nothing wrong with wires and cables. They are, to a great degree, what makes the world go 'round. I love 'em. Got boxes of XLRs and coax and general hook-up stuff. Cables are reliable as s***. Wireless is flaky by comparison. Just ask any cell phone user. I'll run CAT5 from my router any day as opposed to wirelessly. Sometimes you don't or may not want to use a hardwired connection. So, go wireless then, but there is usually a price to be paid. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Wireless vs. wired, just a thought to chew on
Most potable devices are still using G for their wireless connection. Part of the reason for this, is N took such a long time in coming out, many did not want to install a preN device and then not have it be compatible. Almost all smartphones with built in Wifi also still use G. I had to install an N card into my laptop to get N connectivity. Most laptop makers are putting the wireless cards in places that make them difficult for the average user to swap out. Also many wireless providers (in the open world) are still operating on G. (When I travel that is the biggest group of them, a few still use B but very few offer N.) Stewart At 01:50 PM 2/2/2010, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: Actually, and I assumed you would understand this, I was speaking of computer technology that is currently in general use. I think that almost all current computer users would have to buy new equipment, even new computers, to be able to avail themselves of what you have brought to attention. I do not believe that even the iPad is so equipped. Please correct me if I am wrong on the above. Steve Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Wireless vs. wired, just a thought to chew on
On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 2:20 PM, tjpa wrote: > On Feb 2, 2010, at 9:43 AM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> But wait! Other than tapping keys on a keyboard, isn't wireless >> just about the slowest means of data transfer out there? What about >> this speed thing? Where has that suddenly gone? > > Or maybe you are just not keeping up with technology... > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_802.11n-2009 > > 600Mbps wireless Actually, and I assumed you would understand this, I was speaking of computer technology that is currently in general use. I think that almost all current computer users would have to buy new equipment, even new computers, to be able to avail themselves of what you have brought to attention. I do not believe that even the iPad is so equipped. Please correct me if I am wrong on the above. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Wireless vs. wired, just a thought to chew on
N is pretty good. U upgraded my wireless router/access points to N this past year. (not that expensive) and put a N card in my one laptop. I have a mix at home of G and N laptops. So far it seems to work very well. However the direct connect (cable) still seems a it faster for big stuff. Stewart At 01:20 PM 2/2/2010, you wrote: On Feb 2, 2010, at 9:43 AM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: But wait! Other than tapping keys on a keyboard, isn't wireless just about the slowest means of data transfer out there? What about this speed thing? Where has that suddenly gone? Or maybe you are just not keeping up with technology... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_802.11n-2009 600Mbps wireless * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] New SIM, but improved?
On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 1:34 PM, tjpa wrote: > I'm sure that if you shop around you will find receivers the size of a > walkman or maybe smaller. And it it has an amplifier, implicit in a receiver, it'll have about 5 watts RMS total audio output...maybe. Speaking of small devices, in the last two days two friends of mine lost their cell phones. Apparently, lost cell phones represent a very large percentage of why new cell phones are bought. Small has its disadvantages, but not for manufacturers. Perhaps some day a manufacturer will provide a little attachment on their phones so that a retractable tether can be used to ensure that the phone does not get lost. However, I doubt that would enhance a phone makers bottom line, useful though it could be. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] New SIM, but improved?
So how do I connect my blu ray and media center to my hd tv if not hdmi or component? On Feb 2, 2010 12:12 PM, "tjpa" wrote: On Feb 2, 2010, at 11:16 AM, mike wrote: > > Even if you did, it's kinda hard to have 3 HDMI ports, ... There you go again. Clinging to all those cables. I'm surprised you are not demanding a row of XLR connectors too. And a big red crank on the side. * ** List info, subscrip... * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Wireless vs. wired, just a thought to chew on
On Feb 2, 2010, at 9:43 AM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: But wait! Other than tapping keys on a keyboard, isn't wireless just about the slowest means of data transfer out there? What about this speed thing? Where has that suddenly gone? Or maybe you are just not keeping up with technology... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_802.11n-2009 600Mbps wireless * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] New SIM, but improved?
Excuse me but XLR connectors are still the standard for sound systems and sound work. Wireless sucks! often has problems interference etc. Sorry. Stewart At 01:00 PM 2/2/2010, you wrote: On Feb 2, 2010, at 11:16 AM, mike wrote: Even if you did, it's kinda hard to have 3 HDMI ports, a couple of SPDIF ports, RCA jacks, 2 or 3 sets of component jacks all on something that small also. Having to interface with that back panel on home systems forces a certain size on the unit also. There you go again. Clinging to all those cables. I'm surprised you are not demanding a row of XLR connectors too. And a big red crank on the side. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Wireless vs. wired, just a thought to chew on
On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 11:14 AM, mike wrote: > I had just never heard anyone saying they wanted to give up their esata HD > for a wireless one. Just last weekend I helped a friend run 3 cat 5 cables > throughout his house...not sure wired is really going anywhere. I have a > hard enough time dealing with my USB2 drives. The other day I was looking through a 2001 edition "Discover" magazine (remember that mag?) and came across an article where a number of computer experts of the day were chiming in on the future of computing. They were zeroing in on how wireless was going to supplant wired external devices in the future, and those folks were going round and round about what benefits there would be versus the drawbacks. One was saying that he did not want his refrigerator to automatically wirelessly contact the repairman if it was going on the blink, that he would prefer to handle such things himself. Major efforts today to improve on wireless speeds are focusing on moving to the terahertz band, That means going up to the hyper-microwaves, basically where no man has gone before except in medical and security imagery testing. These are frequencies of less than a millimeter in wavelength. These wavelengths cannot penetrate metal, so moves to all plastic devices that are prevalent today gives rise to the viability of this frequency range. This is also line-of-sight propagation of very short range compared to microwave emissions currently employed for most communications use. Safety? Who really knows at this point. These frequencies are at or about the frequencies that lasers operate at and thus there are legitimate thermal concerns that need to be looked at. So, for wireless with speeds that may come close to what we have become used to, the future is still not here by any means. But, if you want hard drives or flash memory to be wireless you can get it right now, albeit at only a fraction of the speeds you have gotten used to. Just the other day I read allusions on this list about how great it would be to wirelessly move photos from a camera to a computer. I would say that at the speeds currently available, only in an emergency or if I was trying to impress someone, and even then I would probably hear, "Why is it taking so long?" Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] New SIM, but improved?
On Feb 2, 2010, at 11:16 AM, mike wrote: Even if you did, it's kinda hard to have 3 HDMI ports, a couple of SPDIF ports, RCA jacks, 2 or 3 sets of component jacks all on something that small also. Having to interface with that back panel on home systems forces a certain size on the unit also. There you go again. Clinging to all those cables. I'm surprised you are not demanding a row of XLR connectors too. And a big red crank on the side. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] New SIM, but improved?
On Feb 2, 2010, at 10:14 AM, mike wrote: Mark, given you statement, why aren't home receivers smaller? We aren't talking about circuit boards, we are talking about electronics you will have to handle and move etc. Home receivers should be the size of a walkman by now but aren't. Some are and some are not. The ones that come in big boxes are that size because people stack them up. The inside of these boxes is mostly empty space. People are shopping for something they can add to or replace in an existing stack. So we are really talking furniture here, not technology. My 20-year-old receiver is 2-inches high and 10-inches across. My newer DVD player is about that size too. I'm sure that if you shop around you will find receivers the size of a walkman or maybe smaller. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] New SIM, but improved?
One of those later SNL skits had the Will Ferrell character come out with a big 80s style cell phone, and when teased about it by the "girls", insisted that " 'big' is the new 'small' ". Insert your own iPad jokes here. As to why the micro SIM has to be smaller than the mini SIM, if it is to be backwards compatible but physically distinguishable and not forwards compatible from the mini SIM, then the pin end has to have the same pin placement, and the width, thickness, and placement of the locking notches on the sides have to be the same or close as well, so a shorter length is pretty much the only option. Generally speaking, you want the working part of your electronics (as opposed to the part you regularly interface with) to do more in less space, too. On Feb 2, 2010, at 12:00 AM, COMPUTERGUYS-L automatic digest system wrote: > From:b_s-wilk > Subject: Re: New SIM, but improved? > >> Tell us you have not noticed the trend where everything electronic gets >> smaller every year. Is it not natural that as part of this process key >> internal parts get smaller too? > > Back to SNL-- Remember their skit about the shrinking Nano? That was a > joke when the Nano 'improved' and became microscopic. The shrinking SIM > is a bad joke too. And there's NO reason to make the new technology > smaller than the old one, especially since the US device is exactly > 7.24187928741 times larger than my smart phone. Logically, according to > Tom, the SIM should also be 7.24187928741 times larger in the iPad > compared to my phone. > > When I worked at a newspaper designing and typesetting ads, there was a > rule that you don't use any text smaller than 5 point type. Anything > smaller than that was considered illegible, and only suitable for > disclaimers on car ads. Now the rules are that there are no rules. > Medicine has important warnings in 3 point type--for old people, yet. > Legal documents got so bad that there had to be legislation to make it > legible and in plain English. > > Smaller isn't necessarily better, otherwise the iPad wouldn't be larger > that many netbooks and tablets. So what's with this nonsense of > defending SIM cards that are too small to insert or remove without > dropping them like a contact lens that you can't find in a pile rug. My > brother rides a unicycle, but uses his bicycle most of the time because > smaller isn't necessarily better. Do you drive a microcar like a Ligier > or Aixam? > > Betty * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Bill Gates saves the world...well some of it
Ballmer was still a mass of pimples when Bill made Knife the baby a notable quote, but SB learned at the feet of the knife-master, Mr. Gates. Thank you, Mark Snyder -Original Message- From: Computer Guys Discussion List [mailto:computerguy...@listserv.aol.com] On Behalf Of Reid Katan Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 12:03 PM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Bill Gates saves the world...well some of it Quoting "Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS)" : > They too gave away much of their questionable gains to great causes. > A cleansing experience, I guess. Doesn't justify how they got > that money. And Gates goes from "Knife the baby" to savior... I thought Balmer was the baby knifer. No? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] New SIM, but improved? [was: You Saw the Demo?...]
http://www.wired.com/epicenter/2010/01/ipad-mini-sim/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+wired%2Ftechbiz+%28Wired%3A+Tech+Biz%29 On Feb 2, 2010 9:55 AM, "Reid Katan" wrote: Quoting mike : > Tmo US or overseas? I just read an article today that said the ... Dude. You got to give as good as you expect. Got Link? * ** List info, subscrip... * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Wireless vs. wired, just a thought to chew on
Where are you getting this? I haven't seen anything about this. This has been talked about for years. Right here, for a recent example: http://www.cbc.ca/technology/story/2010/01/18/wifi-direct-wireless-ces.html We are already seeing a number of wireless printers, wireless hard drives, wireless flash memory and so on. The iPad? The Mac Air? Cell phones and a slew of other mobile/portable/desktop computers soon to come? Ask Tom Piwowar. He's already said it. There's an engineering discipline called Appropriate Technology. A local nature center needed bridge for school children to cross over a fast moving stream safely. Engineering students at a local college were asked to design affordable solution. They designed an elaborate expensive suspension bridge. Mother Nature intervened and sent a 60 foot sycamore tree downstream after the Spring thaw. The full cost of the bridge was materials for handrails and steps--volunteers supplied chain saws. That was 15 years ago. Cheap. Works well, still. Few short-sighted engineers needed. I love my 24" iMac. I used the AirPort card when I first got it. That's too slow to keep up with the outside network for streaming and downloads. Since I connected the ethernet cable directly to the modem, I'm much happier with the faster network. I love our wireless printer. It works--doesn't need to be faster. I tried a wireless hard drive and hated it--too slow for data. Sometimes slow is good [voice/text on mobile phones, transfer small files, food]. Sometimes it isn't [downloading large files, streaming video]. Depends on your network and what you're doing. Appropriate technology encourages using the best tool for the tasks. Gigabit WiFi? is it here yet? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Bill Gates saves the world...well some of it
Quoting "Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS)" : They too gave away much of their questionable gains to great causes. A cleansing experience, I guess. Doesn't justify how they got that money. And Gates goes from "Knife the baby" to savior... I thought Balmer was the baby knifer. No? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] New SIM, but improved?
I only replied when it was apparent that the technology assertions were incorrect. Talk anything you want about SIM cards, but when you make false assertions about technology, I may respond. Thank you, Mark Snyder -Original Message- I read fine, Mark. I don't think you fully understand the subject. You are talking about component feature sizes..fine, take to another thread, if you are going to include it in this one, it has to be assumed you are talking about sim cards. You should be more clear what you are talking about if you are going to change the area the thread is discussing. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed?
Quoting "t.piwowar" : On Jan 31, 2010, at 6:53 PM, mike wrote: Name someone in the US that is using them. Anyone? I'll give you a hint, it's the maker of a GPS tracker for kids. That's it. I never said anything regarding the length of time this has been out...12 years and it's still not standard. You are changing the point of what I said just enough to again try and be 'right'. Dab gummet and it ain't got one of 'em UFO thingies too. Can't be any good. What the hell kind of answer is *that*? Didn't your mother ever tell you, "If you don't have anything useful to say, don't say anything at all." * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] New SIM, but improved?
Okay. If you're using multiple SIMs that are small, I would suggest a container system to prevent losing them. As their density increases, is it logical to expect you to use fewer of them, change them out less often? I have a multi-SIM--a card that holds data for more than one network. It doesn't work very well. I have it because it came free with a SIM card reader/cloner that I got to back up the SIM card [all data, including network info, not just the addresses and photos that can be transferred via Bluetooth. An improved version that's more reliable can replace the need to switch physical SIM cards, but the software needs a lot of work. Also, you still have to remove the card to clone a new SIM, using a computer--not easy to do while traveling. If you could do this wirelessly on an encrypted network at the provider's shop or simply from a local tower, then SIM card size won't matter. Container system - what happens when I drop my card between the floorboards of the convenience store when I buy the second card, before I can get it into a container? After all, my hands are full of greasy munchies and drinks, and I'm in a hurry to catch a train. The smaller the card, the more likely it is to be lost before putting it into a container. OK, I'm more careful than that. I've left the card in my phone under the battery, but not in the slot when using another card, but I have to be careful that it doesn't drop when I pop out the battery to change cards. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] New SIM, but improved? [was: You Saw the Demo?...]
Quoting mike : Tmo US or overseas? I just read an article today that said the micro sim was not in use anywhere in the US. Dude. You got to give as good as you expect. Got Link? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] New SIM, but improved?
Points well-taken, Mark, and I don't for a moment think that own particular usage will carry the day in the general market. I deal with people in multiple countries, and all have finite resources. In addition to the courtesy of having local phone numbers, I also allow my associates the economy of not having to make international calls & texts. There are times when I have to change cards, on crossing a frontier. Storage of the current SIM configuration has not been a problem. --- On Tue, 2/2/10, Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS) wrote: From: Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS) Subject: Re: [CGUYS] New SIM, but improved? To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@listserv.aol.com Date: Tuesday, February 2, 2010, 9:55 AM Okay. If you're using multiple SIMs that are small, I would suggest a container system to prevent losing them. As their density increases, is it logical to expect you to use fewer of them, change them out less often? Thank you, Mark Snyder -Original Message- Mark, I would posit that a sim card, while obviously a component, also straddles the line into device, in that, for some of us, it's a frequently moved accessory. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] New SIM, but improved?
Steve, I was addressing components; you are addressing consumer devices. Increasing component density translates into increasing performance, reliability or capacity/capability (depending on what the engineers focus on). It allows things that were stationary to become faster, mobile or just cheaper. The user interface is an entirely different issue. You are addressing that issue. The confusion here is that the size of interchangeable SIM cards is a significant part of both the user interface as well as device hardware. In the US you might not notice, but elsewhere it's important to have an easy way to switch networks quickly without losing SIM cards. This is where the argument about component size vs. device size is faulty. Perhaps you don't switch SIM cards, but plenty of other people do--enough to make the size of the new card important. The real issue is bad design. The chip can be smaller and contain more data, while the card it's attached to should be easier to handle, until a better way of quickly switching networks is developed. The new higher density card could be designed to "talk" to the new network and negotiate a switch digitally rather than by switching cards. Then a new billing method will be needed to replace purchasing a new SIM at each location. You buy things on the Internet, sometimes on your phone, why not prepay the use of a new network that way? Mark, have you ever needed to switch networks at frontiers? Betty * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] New SIM, but improved?
Even if you did, it's kinda hard to have 3 HDMI ports, a couple of SPDIF ports, RCA jacks, 2 or 3 sets of component jacks all on something that small also. Having to interface with that back panel on home systems forces a certain size on the unit also. On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 9:08 AM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: > On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 10:14 AM, mike wrote: > > > Mark, given you statement, why aren't home receivers smaller? > > As in stereo receivers? You are not going to get 100 watts out of > something the size of a pack of cigarettes. > > Steve > > > * > ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** > ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** > * > * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Wireless vs. wired, just a thought to chew on
I had just never heard anyone saying they wanted to give up their esata HD for a wireless one. Just last weekend I helped a friend run 3 cat 5 cables throughout his house...not sure wired is really going anywhere. I have a hard enough time dealing with my USB2 drives. On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 9:03 AM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: > On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 10:09 AM, mike wrote: > > > Where are you getting this? I haven't seen anything about this. > > This has been talked about for years. Right here, for a recent example: > > http://www.cbc.ca/technology/story/2010/01/18/wifi-direct-wireless-ces.html > > We are already seeing a number of wireless printers, wireless hard > drives, wireless flash memory and so on. The iPad? The Mac Air? > Cell phones and a slew of other mobile/portable/desktop computers soon > to come? Ask Tom Piwowar. He's already said it. > > Search on "wireless future" or something similar for more. Faster > wireless delivery is being worked on, but analysts expect a lot of > interference problems as too many RF frequencies clash with one > another. As an aside, yet related, the iPad is not as yet "type > accepted" by the FCC, meaning that it has not been cleared in terms of > not generating unacceptable RF interference, and that is a primary > reason it is not yet available for sale. > > Steve > > > * > ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** > ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** > * > * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] New SIM, but improved?
On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 10:14 AM, mike wrote: > Mark, given you statement, why aren't home receivers smaller? As in stereo receivers? You are not going to get 100 watts out of something the size of a pack of cigarettes. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] New SIM, but improved?
I read fine, Mark. I don't think you fully understand the subject. You are talking about component feature sizes..fine, take to another thread, if you are going to include it in this one, it has to be assumed you are talking about sim cards. You should be more clear what you are talking about if you are going to change the area the thread is discussing. On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 8:50 AM, Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS) wrote: > I said component feature-sizes/density and formats, not consumer > devices. > > Radios can be as small as you want them; folks trying to do surveillance > find that convenient. Your Bluetooth headset broadcasts to your cell > phone... but I was *_not_* commenting on the size of consumer devices. > > Please read with more care before you reply. > > Thank you, > Mark Snyder > -Original Message- > Mark, given you statement, why aren't home receivers smaller? We aren't > talking about circuit boards, we are talking about electronics you will > have > to handle and move etc. Home receivers should be the size of a walkman > by > now but aren't. I'm reminded of the scene in Zoolander where he pulls > out > his cell phone and it's the size of a jelly bean, he can't even dial it. > Some things, their size is also dependent on their use. If human beings > have to interact with an object, it must be of some basic size...this > seems > obvious. I don't want to have to get out tweezers and a microscope > whenever > I want to do something with my modern electronics. > > On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 4:17 AM, Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS) > > wrote: > > > Feature sizes decrease in electronics every 1-1.5 years, so more > > features per given area. Eventually, the format size for a component > > decreases as well. This has been occurring for decades. This is > > obvious and I am surprised that people on the list think this is a bad > > thing. > > > > Thank you, > > Mark Snyder > > > * > ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** > ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** > * > * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] New SIM, but improved?
On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 9:42 AM, George Carr wrote: > Yes, TVs are getting larger in two dimensions, but they are also getting > thinner and lighter. The new LED displays are super thin. True. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Wireless vs. wired, just a thought to chew on
On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 10:09 AM, mike wrote: > Where are you getting this? I haven't seen anything about this. This has been talked about for years. Right here, for a recent example: http://www.cbc.ca/technology/story/2010/01/18/wifi-direct-wireless-ces.html We are already seeing a number of wireless printers, wireless hard drives, wireless flash memory and so on. The iPad? The Mac Air? Cell phones and a slew of other mobile/portable/desktop computers soon to come? Ask Tom Piwowar. He's already said it. Search on "wireless future" or something similar for more. Faster wireless delivery is being worked on, but analysts expect a lot of interference problems as too many RF frequencies clash with one another. As an aside, yet related, the iPad is not as yet "type accepted" by the FCC, meaning that it has not been cleared in terms of not generating unacceptable RF interference, and that is a primary reason it is not yet available for sale. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] New SIM, but improved?
I said component feature-sizes/density and formats, not consumer devices. Radios can be as small as you want them; folks trying to do surveillance find that convenient. Your Bluetooth headset broadcasts to your cell phone... but I was *_not_* commenting on the size of consumer devices. Please read with more care before you reply. Thank you, Mark Snyder -Original Message- Mark, given you statement, why aren't home receivers smaller? We aren't talking about circuit boards, we are talking about electronics you will have to handle and move etc. Home receivers should be the size of a walkman by now but aren't. I'm reminded of the scene in Zoolander where he pulls out his cell phone and it's the size of a jelly bean, he can't even dial it. Some things, their size is also dependent on their use. If human beings have to interact with an object, it must be of some basic size...this seems obvious. I don't want to have to get out tweezers and a microscope whenever I want to do something with my modern electronics. On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 4:17 AM, Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS) wrote: > Feature sizes decrease in electronics every 1-1.5 years, so more > features per given area. Eventually, the format size for a component > decreases as well. This has been occurring for decades. This is > obvious and I am surprised that people on the list think this is a bad > thing. > > Thank you, > Mark Snyder * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] New SIM, but improved?
Mark, given you statement, why aren't home receivers smaller? We aren't talking about circuit boards, we are talking about electronics you will have to handle and move etc. Home receivers should be the size of a walkman by now but aren't. I'm reminded of the scene in Zoolander where he pulls out his cell phone and it's the size of a jelly bean, he can't even dial it. Some things, their size is also dependent on their use. If human beings have to interact with an object, it must be of some basic size...this seems obvious. I don't want to have to get out tweezers and a microscope whenever I want to do something with my modern electronics. On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 4:17 AM, Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS) wrote: > Feature sizes decrease in electronics every 1-1.5 years, so more > features per given area. Eventually, the format size for a component > decreases as well. This has been occurring for decades. This is > obvious and I am surprised that people on the list think this is a bad > thing. > > Thank you, > Mark Snyder > -Original Message- > Tell us you have not noticed the trend where everything electronic > gets smaller every year. Is it not natural that as part of this > process key internal parts get smaller too? > > > * > ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** > ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** > * > * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Wireless vs. wired, just a thought to chew on
Where are you getting this? I haven't seen anything about this. On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 7:43 AM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: > For years, computer makers and makers of products that interface > with computers such as flash drives and hard drives have worked hard > and long to increase the speeds at which their products perform their > functions. Consumers have seen data transfer rate speeds greatly > increase, and those speed increases have been the reason that many a > computer or computer peripheral have been sold. Speed has been a > primary motivator in the computing world, and so-called "wars" have > been waged over the issue of speed almost as if that was all that > mattered. > > Consumers have bought into the speed thing, predicating the purchase > of all sorts of computer gear on the basis of their speed of > operation. Now, computer makers and computer gurus are suggesting > that things like FireWire and USB and other wired forms of data > transfer should all be retired in favor of wireless. Consumers are > being told that the computer world is going totally wireless. > > But wait! Other than tapping keys on a keyboard, isn't wireless > just about the slowest means of data transfer out there? What about > this speed thing? Where has that suddenly gone? Slow is the new > good. Slower is now seen as progressive, albeit in the opposite > direction. Why would we want to go from megabits to nanobits per > second, in a comparative sense, along with lost packets and lots of > RFI for everyone, everywhere? I can think of but two reasons at this > moment, a potential for convenience and money. Perhaps others can > come up with additional reasons. > > Steve > > -- > WARNING: Due to a Presidential Executive Order, the National Security > Agency may have read this email without warning, warrant or notice. > > > * > ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** > ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** > * > * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] New SIM, but improved?
Okay. If you're using multiple SIMs that are small, I would suggest a container system to prevent losing them. As their density increases, is it logical to expect you to use fewer of them, change them out less often? Thank you, Mark Snyder -Original Message- Mark, I would posit that a sim card, while obviously a component, also straddles the line into device, in that, for some of us, it's a frequently moved accessory. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] New SIM, but improved?
> I have noticed this in the past with some items, but today we are > seeing somewhat of a reversal. A lot of the cell phones are getting > bigger, and some even say the the iPad, the latest major computing > product release, is essentially a larger Ipod Touch. Computer > monitors are also getting bigger as Apple is showing us. TVs are > getting humongous. > > Steve Yes, TVs are getting larger in two dimensions, but they are also getting thinner and lighter. The new LED displays are super thin. George * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Wireless vs. wired, just a thought to chew on
For years, computer makers and makers of products that interface with computers such as flash drives and hard drives have worked hard and long to increase the speeds at which their products perform their functions. Consumers have seen data transfer rate speeds greatly increase, and those speed increases have been the reason that many a computer or computer peripheral have been sold. Speed has been a primary motivator in the computing world, and so-called "wars" have been waged over the issue of speed almost as if that was all that mattered. Consumers have bought into the speed thing, predicating the purchase of all sorts of computer gear on the basis of their speed of operation. Now, computer makers and computer gurus are suggesting that things like FireWire and USB and other wired forms of data transfer should all be retired in favor of wireless. Consumers are being told that the computer world is going totally wireless. But wait! Other than tapping keys on a keyboard, isn't wireless just about the slowest means of data transfer out there? What about this speed thing? Where has that suddenly gone? Slow is the new good. Slower is now seen as progressive, albeit in the opposite direction. Why would we want to go from megabits to nanobits per second, in a comparative sense, along with lost packets and lots of RFI for everyone, everywhere? I can think of but two reasons at this moment, a potential for convenience and money. Perhaps others can come up with additional reasons. Steve -- WARNING: Due to a Presidential Executive Order, the National Security Agency may have read this email without warning, warrant or notice. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] New SIM, but improved?
Mark, I would posit that a sim card, while obviously a component, also straddles the line into device, in that, for some of us, it's a frequently moved accessory. --- On Tue, 2/2/10, Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS) wrote: From: Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS) Subject: Re: [CGUYS] New SIM, but improved? To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Date: Tuesday, February 2, 2010, 8:08 AM Steve, I was addressing components; you are addressing consumer devices. Increasing component density translates into increasing performance, reliability or capacity/capability (depending on what the engineers focus on). It allows things that were stationary to become faster, mobile or just cheaper. The user interface is an entirely different issue. You are addressing that issue. Thank you, Mark Snyder -Original Message- Again, this is true for some, perhaps even most electronic/digital devices, but this trend is not universal nor is it always permanent. Some types of devices that went through a size shrinkage phase reverted to becoming larger again because smallness became a liability as opposed to an asset. Going small in such cases provides a benefit only for the manufacturer, not for the consumer. Hand-held two-way radios are an example that immediately comes to mind. Being made too small did not work well for users. The tiny buttons became hard to deal with, the small speaker rendered voice communications hard to understand, smaller displays were hard to read, they broke when dropped or were handled roughly, the smaller batteries would not last or provide sufficient power, the radios could not be placed upright on a table because the weight of the antenna would cause it to fall over, etc. This became a problem for pros such as police and firefighters and also with consumer level radios such as FRS or GMRS devices. Going small is not necessarily a good thing for the end user. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] New SIM, but improved?
Thanks, Steve, for describing the "obvious." Surely, part of the huge popularity of Blackberry is that it fits in the hand so well. Count me among those who do not welcome tiny/tinniness. No greater nightmare than losing a miniscule sim card onto a train floorboard while crossing a frontier. A friend who is inveterate early adopter discarded his miniature Nokia one year; not professional grade, for every reason you cite, especially battery charge, which kept draining while he was on the job. Not great design to require an auto as accessory to keep the battery fresh. --- On Tue, 2/2/10, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: From: phartz...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [CGUYS] New SIM, but improved? To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Date: Tuesday, February 2, 2010, 7:26 AM On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 6:17 AM, Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS) wrote: > Feature sizes decrease in electronics every 1-1.5 years, so more > features per given area. Eventually, the format size for a component > decreases as well. This has been occurring for decades. This is > obvious and I am surprised that people on the list think this is a bad > thing. Again, this is true for some, perhaps even most electronic/digital devices, but this trend is not universal nor is it always permanent. Some types of devices that went through a size shrinkage phase reverted to becoming larger again because smallness became a liability as opposed to an asset. Going small in such cases provides a benefit only for the manufacturer, not for the consumer. Hand-held two-way radios are an example that immediately comes to mind. Being made too small did not work well for users. The tiny buttons became hard to deal with, the small speaker rendered voice communications hard to understand, smaller displays were hard to read, they broke when dropped or were handled roughly, the smaller batteries would not last or provide sufficient power, the radios could not be placed upright on a table because the weight of the antenna would cause it to fall over, etc. This became a problem for pros such as police and firefighters and also with consumer level radios such as FRS or GMRS devices. Going small is not necessarily a good thing for the end user. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] New SIM, but improved?
On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 8:08 AM, Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS) wrote: > Steve, I was addressing components; you are addressing consumer devices. I thought that could the case, but was not quite sure as you did not actually refer to components, but rather to "features." Anyway, your point is well taken. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] New SIM, but improved?
Steve, I was addressing components; you are addressing consumer devices. Increasing component density translates into increasing performance, reliability or capacity/capability (depending on what the engineers focus on). It allows things that were stationary to become faster, mobile or just cheaper. The user interface is an entirely different issue. You are addressing that issue. Thank you, Mark Snyder -Original Message- Again, this is true for some, perhaps even most electronic/digital devices, but this trend is not universal nor is it always permanent. Some types of devices that went through a size shrinkage phase reverted to becoming larger again because smallness became a liability as opposed to an asset. Going small in such cases provides a benefit only for the manufacturer, not for the consumer. Hand-held two-way radios are an example that immediately comes to mind. Being made too small did not work well for users. The tiny buttons became hard to deal with, the small speaker rendered voice communications hard to understand, smaller displays were hard to read, they broke when dropped or were handled roughly, the smaller batteries would not last or provide sufficient power, the radios could not be placed upright on a table because the weight of the antenna would cause it to fall over, etc. This became a problem for pros such as police and firefighters and also with consumer level radios such as FRS or GMRS devices. Going small is not necessarily a good thing for the end user. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] New SIM, but improved?
On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 6:17 AM, Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS) wrote: > Feature sizes decrease in electronics every 1-1.5 years, so more > features per given area. Eventually, the format size for a component > decreases as well. This has been occurring for decades. This is > obvious and I am surprised that people on the list think this is a bad > thing. Again, this is true for some, perhaps even most electronic/digital devices, but this trend is not universal nor is it always permanent. Some types of devices that went through a size shrinkage phase reverted to becoming larger again because smallness became a liability as opposed to an asset. Going small in such cases provides a benefit only for the manufacturer, not for the consumer. Hand-held two-way radios are an example that immediately comes to mind. Being made too small did not work well for users. The tiny buttons became hard to deal with, the small speaker rendered voice communications hard to understand, smaller displays were hard to read, they broke when dropped or were handled roughly, the smaller batteries would not last or provide sufficient power, the radios could not be placed upright on a table because the weight of the antenna would cause it to fall over, etc. This became a problem for pros such as police and firefighters and also with consumer level radios such as FRS or GMRS devices. Going small is not necessarily a good thing for the end user. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Apple monitor issues
On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 1:15 AM, t.piwowar wrote: > Apple has the firmware update for you. On Monday, the company released > 27-inch iMac Display Firmware Update 1.0, which promises to “address issues > that may cause intermittent display flickering” for iMacs released in late > 2009. Good. But, this firmware update will not address the appearance of lines on the screen nor will it address the issue of screen corners that develop a yellowish color cast. Those two problems seem to be manufacturing issues that code will not remedy. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] New SIM, but improved?
Feature sizes decrease in electronics every 1-1.5 years, so more features per given area. Eventually, the format size for a component decreases as well. This has been occurring for decades. This is obvious and I am surprised that people on the list think this is a bad thing. Thank you, Mark Snyder -Original Message- Tell us you have not noticed the trend where everything electronic gets smaller every year. Is it not natural that as part of this process key internal parts get smaller too? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
