Re: [CGUYS] ? about download speeds
Yes, 16Mb / 3Mb is fast service. If your speed was merely 3Mb down, you'd be at the minimum of what is usually sold as basic cable internet service. I always counsel people to remember that real-life speed is what we really care about and that will always be a function of the load on and the capacity of every intermediate point between your screen and the provider of your download. I don't really understand how to interpret the speed I get on the speed test sites. This is what I got tonight on Speakeasy Download Speed: 16523 kbps (2065.4 KB/sec transfer rate) Upload Speed: 3077 kbps (384.6 KB/sec transfer rate) I'm on cable. Is this considered a fast download speed? I ask because actual downloads I've been doing tonight are incredibly SLOW. Diogenes - What I like to drink most is wine that belongs to others. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] ? about download speeds
3MB is the minimum for basic cable service? What planet are you living on? Where I live basic service starts at this level. 1.5 mps up for cable and 768kbs for DSL. You can get the 768 DSL for 9.95 for the teaser rate and then 19.95 per month long term. The Cable speed of 1.5 mps will cost you 29.95 plus modem rental. (10 higher if you have no cable service.) A recent advertised bundle from our cable system advertised expanded cable service with digital and 5 mps cable Internet all for the low price of $107.95 a month. Cable pricing and service is all determined by local franchises and cable companies. In Some areas (high density population) there are better deals and faster services available. In other parts (low density population) it just plain old sucks. Stewart At 09:00 AM 1/15/2009, you wrote: Yes, 16Mb / 3Mb is fast service. If your speed was merely 3Mb down, you'd be at the minimum of what is usually sold as basic cable internet service. I always counsel people to remember that real-life speed is what we really care about and that will always be a function of the load on and the capacity of every intermediate point between your screen and the provider of your download. Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] ? about download speeds
I live on this planet...where 20mbit cable can be had for about 55 bux...i pay 35 for 1.5mbit dsl...qwest is horrid! 1.5mbit doesn't even count as high speed anymore when the FCC is checking coverage unless I'm mistaken. Mike On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 8:30 AM, Rev. Stewart Marshall popoz...@earthlink.net wrote: 3MB is the minimum for basic cable service? What planet are you living on? Where I live basic service starts at this level. 1.5 mps up for cable and 768kbs for DSL. You can get the 768 DSL for 9.95 for the teaser rate and then 19.95 per month long term. The Cable speed of 1.5 mps will cost you 29.95 plus modem rental. (10 higher if you have no cable service.) A recent advertised bundle from our cable system advertised expanded cable service with digital and 5 mps cable Internet all for the low price of $107.95 a month. Cable pricing and service is all determined by local franchises and cable companies. In Some areas (high density population) there are better deals and faster services available. In other parts (low density population) it just plain old sucks. Stewart At 09:00 AM 1/15/2009, you wrote: Yes, 16Mb / 3Mb is fast service. If your speed was merely 3Mb down, you'd be at the minimum of what is usually sold as basic cable internet service. I always counsel people to remember that real-life speed is what we really care about and that will always be a function of the load on and the capacity of every intermediate point between your screen and the provider of your download. Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * -- Make sure you support your local CarbonONset programs! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] ? about download speeds
I think 10 is the highest offered here. Price is about 59.95 a month. As I said it is all about local option on this stuff. Our Cable franchiser is horrid. Worst of all those in the area. But we have no options either. As I said we do have DSL but they could not make their 6mps service work reliably to my house last time I checked. Stewart At 10:03 AM 1/15/2009, you wrote: I live on this planet...where 20mbit cable can be had for about 55 bux...i pay 35 for 1.5mbit dsl...qwest is horrid! 1.5mbit doesn't even count as high speed anymore when the FCC is checking coverage unless I'm mistaken. Mike Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] ? about download speeds
All is relative IMHO. I was sold 768down by Comcast as Limited Internet. My stats are ~1150down ~350up and having used dial-up (~26down on a good day) for many years I am thrilled not only with the speed of it but also the fact it is faster than they claimed! Your numbers are like my sister's FIOS results in another state. Yet, she had horrible performance. It turns out, after a coupla hours on the fone with her after Verizon reset her FIOS modem for her and told her it was her computer at fault, she had lots of junk jamming up her cache and history areas ...deletion of all that and changes to her browser to delete all of it on close have done wonders for her win2k laptop! I am not geek enough to be of greater help2u, but surely others here will have some more details about how to see if it is your box or your pipe at fault! My simplistic suggestion is because I am a simpleton. -Original Message- From: Paula Minor [mailto:raven...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 9:39 PM Subject: ? about download speeds I don't really understand how to interpret the speed I get on the speed test sites. This is what I got tonight on Speakeasy Download Speed: 16523 kbps (2065.4 KB/sec transfer rate) Upload Speed: 3077 kbps (384.6 KB/sec transfer rate) I'm on cable. Is this considered a fast download speed? I ask because actual downloads I've been doing tonight are incredibly SLOW. Paula US/IN raven880atindy.net I'm now at the age where I've got to prove that I'm just as good as I never was.Rex Harrison * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] ? about download speeds
I don't really understand how to interpret the speed I get on the speed test sites. This is what I got tonight on Speakeasy Download Speed: 16523 kbps (2065.4 KB/sec transfer rate) Upload Speed: 3077 kbps (384.6 KB/sec transfer rate) First let's be careful about b vs. B. Little b is bits and big B is bytes. That is why the above b vs B rates differ by 8x. I don't think all of the replies have used the same b or at least I was confused about what was being stated. For broadband it is probably simpler to state everything as KB. So you have 2000 KB down and 384 KB up. Which for a single user is probably okay, but not great. Adequacy depends on what you want to do with your computer and how patient you are personally. If you are using it for Netflix or BitTorrent you may want a faster connection. Also remember that you are just one part of a long chain of links that bring the data to you. Your computer could be bogged in various ways. Your local cable circuit could be jammed with traffic. The server originating your feed could be overloaded. A router between you and the server could be malfunctioning. Your ISP could be managing you data rate. Etc. Etc. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] ? about download speeds
a lot depends on where the kinks are in the pipe between here and there. from dc area, to nj, 19m x3.8m to la, 4.9m x 583K. is reproducable. http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest?java=1 20 m is about max around here, unless you spend real money. At 09:39 PM 1/14/2009, you wrote: I don't really understand how to interpret the speed I get on the speed test sites. This is what I got tonight on Speakeasy Download Speed: 16523 kbps (2065.4 KB/sec transfer rate) Upload Speed: 3077 kbps (384.6 KB/sec transfer rate) I'm on cable. Is this considered a fast download speed? I ask because actual downloads I've been doing tonight are incredibly SLOW. Paula US/IN raven880atindy.net I'm now at the age where I've got to prove that I'm just as good as I never was.Rex Harrison * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] ? about download speeds
That's for sure...here I bought the cheapest 768up called limited basic while they also sell 10mbps and 16mbps boost ...what they do is put a brake in your line to slow you down to what you pay for. I have my computer at the most distant point from the cable entry to my home. Just before the end run, the cable goes through a porch where I wanted a future TV connection where they put a splitter on the line. I got such slow speed at the computer, they put a lesser brake on the line at the pole to let it be what I paid for. After they left and after some research, I realized the splitter was balanced and after I took it out and put in a barrel connector with correct characteristics, my speed went from around 550up to 1150up ...then, just at the computer, I put in an unbalanced connector to which the router gets the 3.5db side and the little TV next to my desk gets the 7.5db side. Now I am still getting ~1150up to the computer and I have cable TV also to little or no detriment. There is a TV also in my living room split off; I have not checked if the splitter for that is unbalanced or not. I may be able to do the same thing there and get even more. Cable people are not on your side!! (Don't tell anyone...sh!!) -Original Message- From: Tom Piwowar [mailto:t...@tjpa.com] Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 1:59 PM Subject: Re: ? about download speeds I don't really understand how to interpret the speed I get on the speed test sites. This is what I got tonight on Speakeasy Download Speed: 16523 kbps (2065.4 KB/sec transfer rate) Upload Speed: 3077 kbps (384.6 KB/sec transfer rate) First let's be careful about b vs. B. Little b is bits and big B is bytes. That is why the above b vs B rates differ by 8x. I don't think all of the replies have used the same b or at least I was confused about what was being stated. For broadband it is probably simpler to state everything as KB. So you have 2000 KB down and 384 KB up. Which for a single user is probably okay, but not great. Adequacy depends on what you want to do with your computer and how patient you are personally. If you are using it for Netflix or BitTorrent you may want a faster connection. Also remember that you are just one part of a long chain of links that bring the data to you. Your computer could be bogged in various ways. Your local cable circuit could be jammed with traffic. The server originating your feed could be overloaded. A router between you and the server could be malfunctioning. Your ISP could be managing you data rate. Etc. Etc. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] ? about download speeds
Beg to differ. Bandwidth speed are usually expressed as bits per second (bps). Thus, the old dial-up modems I used started as 300 baud and went to 1200 baud then to 56K baud. In common usage, the baud rate of a *modem* is how many *bits* it can send or receive per second. Technically, baud is the number of times per second that the carrier signal shifts value - for example a 1200 bit-per-second modem actually runs at 300 baud, but it moves 4 bits per baud (4 x 300= 1200 bits per second). Thus, communications speeds are conventionally expressed as Kilo or Mega bits per second not Bytes. The OP said, I don't really understand how to interpret the speed I get on the speed test sites. This is what I got tonight on Speakeasy Download Speed: 16523 kbps (2065.4 KB/sec transfer rate) Upload Speed: 3077 kbps (384.6 KB/sec transfer rate) So, you are correct in saying that she has 2000KB service but, by convention, it is usually stated that she has 16Mb (or 16000Kb) service. YMMV Bob Hope - I grew up with six brothers. That's how I learned to dance - waiting for the bathroom. I don't really understand how to interpret the speed I get on the speed test sites. This is what I got tonight on Speakeasy Download Speed: 16523 kbps (2065.4 KB/sec transfer rate) Upload Speed: 3077 kbps (384.6 KB/sec transfer rate) First let's be careful about b vs. B. Little b is bits and big B is bytes. That is why the above b vs B rates differ by 8x. I don't think all of the replies have used the same b or at least I was confused about what was being stated. For broadband it is probably simpler to state everything as KB. So you have 2000 KB down and 384 KB up. Which for a single user is probably okay, but not great. Adequacy depends on what you want to do with your computer and how patient you are personally. If you are using it for Netflix or BitTorrent you may want a faster connection. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] ? about download speeds
Beg to differ. Bandwidth speed are usually expressed as bits per second (bps). And in Zimbabwe a loaf of bread costs $50,000,000,000. At some point the right thing to do is drop the zeros! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] ? about download speeds
I don't really understand how to interpret the speed I get on the speed test sites. This is what I got tonight on Speakeasy Download Speed: 16523 kbps (2065.4 KB/sec transfer rate) Upload Speed: 3077 kbps (384.6 KB/sec transfer rate) I'm on cable. Is this considered a fast download speed? I ask because actual downloads I've been doing tonight are incredibly SLOW. Paula US/IN raven880atindy.net I'm now at the age where I've got to prove that I'm just as good as I never was.Rex Harrison * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] ? about download speeds
2m/380k isn't bad. It's certainly broadband (as defined in the US, anyway). So you're doing fine with downloads from THAT site. Presumably you noticed a problem from another site? If you gave us a link, we could try it. It could be a problem with their server, or any server between you and them. Try a tracert. On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 9:39 PM, Paula Minor raven...@gmail.com wrote: I don't really understand how to interpret the speed I get on the speed test sites. This is what I got tonight on Speakeasy Download Speed: 16523 kbps (2065.4 KB/sec transfer rate) Upload Speed: 3077 kbps (384.6 KB/sec transfer rate) I'm on cable. Is this considered a fast download speed? I ask because actual downloads I've been doing tonight are incredibly SLOW. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
