Re: [CGUYS] Data Cables
>I will check the cables again. I can deal with the possibility of my IDE >cable having gone bad. Even if my U160 went bad, I do have a AHA-19320 >and, corresponding cable. It is just not how, I would want to upgrade >that card. Step 1 is to disconnect all data cables except the one going to your optical drive. Pull all cards that are not necessary for minimum function (probably keep the video card only). Disconnect everything other than the keyboard, mouse, and monitor. If you can get it to start in this configuration you can then start adding stuff back -- preferably one by one. If it doesn't start you now have only a small amount of hardware to worry about. Yesterday I was pulling my hair out after an OS upgrade on a computer that had been working fine. The computer would KP during startup or within a minute or two of startup, but not at the same point. It would also KP when booting off a DVD, again doing it a different points in the startup sequence. Eventually I isolated the problem to a SCSI card. The upgraded OS no longer supports that old card. * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Data Cables
I will check the cables again. I can deal with the possibility of my IDE cable having gone bad. Even if my U160 went bad, I do have a AHA-19320 and, corresponding cable. It is just not how, I would want to upgrade that card. Chris -- Original message -- From: "Rev. Stewart Marshall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > OK I get it you need the CDROM to be recognized. > > Check the cable connection it may look connected but it may not be > properly. Also check the power connections. > > Swap out power connections if possible. Also if after you check the > cables and verify they are all properly seated and connected. Swap > out with a new one. > > I know sounds too simple to be true but I have had cables that looked > good but just failed. Also the cable may not be on all the way but > look attached. > > Also make sure the BIOS sees it and registers it as a device. It > should be the first master device. > > If all that fails it may have gone bad. (I know last resort) > > Stewart > > > > At 09:55 PM 10/5/2007, you wrote: > >The drive was fine before I disconnected the data cable so, I know > >the problem isn't related to SCSI. > > Rev. Stewart A. Marshall > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org > Ozark, AL SL 82 > > > > * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== > * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== > * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name > * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST > * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L > * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress > * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ > * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml > * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived > * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Data Cables
OK I get it you need the CDROM to be recognized. Check the cable connection it may look connected but it may not be properly. Also check the power connections. Swap out power connections if possible. Also if after you check the cables and verify they are all properly seated and connected. Swap out with a new one. I know sounds too simple to be true but I have had cables that looked good but just failed. Also the cable may not be on all the way but look attached. Also make sure the BIOS sees it and registers it as a device. It should be the first master device. If all that fails it may have gone bad. (I know last resort) Stewart At 09:55 PM 10/5/2007, you wrote: The drive was fine before I disconnected the data cable so, I know the problem isn't related to SCSI. Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Data Cables
The drive was fine before I disconnected the data cable so, I know the problem isn't related to SCSI. -- Original message -- From: db <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Setting up SCSI drives is complex compared to other types. Google for > some instructions for your situation.. > > db * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Data Cables
The other drives I added, are not in use yet, on purpose. Only one SCSI drive is active. That is the one I have been using. The card is an AHA-19160 and, the active HD is a U320. All the other HD's are not connected to the power supply or, to the data cable. Once I can get the CD-R/W to be recognized for the boot, then I am sure, things will be ok but, until then, I am stuck. -- Original message -- From: "Rev. Stewart Marshall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > IDE is simple. If it is the only one make sure it is set as master. > > On the U160/U320 which are SCSI drives. > > You have them plugged into their adapters, and I assume they are both > properly terminated? > > Once you make sure they are terminated, I am not sure how to make the > BIOS recognize them but the old way to turn the drive ID to zero in > the old BIOS. > > You also need to make sure you the proper drivers in the WinXp installation. > > Also note you must make sure the SCSI BIOS is booting and recognizing > the drives. Make sure you have that set up properly. > > I have never set up XP with SCSI drives so I am not sure of what all > needs to be done, but the settings in all of the BIOS's need to be > set properly. > > Stewart * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Data Cables
Setting up SCSI drives is complex compared to other types. Google for some instructions for your situation.. db Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: IDE is simple. If it is the only one make sure it is set as master. On the U160/U320 which are SCSI drives. You have them plugged into their adapters, and I assume they are both properly terminated? Once you make sure they are terminated, I am not sure how to make the BIOS recognize them but the old way to turn the drive ID to zero in the old BIOS. You also need to make sure you the proper drivers in the WinXp installation. Also note you must make sure the SCSI BIOS is booting and recognizing the drives. Make sure you have that set up properly. I have never set up XP with SCSI drives so I am not sure of what all needs to be done, but the settings in all of the BIOS's need to be set properly. Stewart At 07:51 PM 10/5/2007, you wrote: IDE for the CD-R/W and, U160 for the U320 Christopher Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Data Cables
IDE is simple. If it is the only one make sure it is set as master. On the U160/U320 which are SCSI drives. You have them plugged into their adapters, and I assume they are both properly terminated? Once you make sure they are terminated, I am not sure how to make the BIOS recognize them but the old way to turn the drive ID to zero in the old BIOS. You also need to make sure you the proper drivers in the WinXp installation. Also note you must make sure the SCSI BIOS is booting and recognizing the drives. Make sure you have that set up properly. I have never set up XP with SCSI drives so I am not sure of what all needs to be done, but the settings in all of the BIOS's need to be set properly. Stewart At 07:51 PM 10/5/2007, you wrote: IDE for the CD-R/W and, U160 for the U320 Christopher Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Data Cables
IDE for the CD-R/W and, U160 for the U320 Christopher -- Original message -- From: "Rev. Stewart Marshall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Simple but pertinent questions. > > What kind are they? PATA (old IDE) or SATA (Serial) > > The old PATA had to be set for master slave or cable select and on > the appropriate end of the cable to be recognized properly. > > I am not sure with SATA but I assume there is something in the BIOS > to select boot drive in a SATA array. > > Stewart > > > At 06:59 PM 10/5/2007, you wrote: > >I (physically)installed several hard drives in my computer yesterday > >but, now when I turn the computer on, the computer doesn't recognize > >my boot drive. > > > >I have configured my computer to boot from the CD-R/W drive since, I > >use the XP Pro disc to boot and, not the hard drive. > > > >I know power is going to all the connected drives(147GB U320, > >CD-R/W, floppy) but, even after checking to see if I put the cables > >on backwards, they still aren't recognized through the data cable. > > > >Any help would be appreciated > > > >Christopher > > Rev. Stewart A. Marshall > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Prince of Peace > Ozark, AL SL 82 > > > > * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== > * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== > * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name > * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST > * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L > * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress > * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ > * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml > * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived > * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Data Cables
Simple but pertinent questions. What kind are they? PATA (old IDE) or SATA (Serial) The old PATA had to be set for master slave or cable select and on the appropriate end of the cable to be recognized properly. I am not sure with SATA but I assume there is something in the BIOS to select boot drive in a SATA array. Stewart At 06:59 PM 10/5/2007, you wrote: I (physically)installed several hard drives in my computer yesterday but, now when I turn the computer on, the computer doesn't recognize my boot drive. I have configured my computer to boot from the CD-R/W drive since, I use the XP Pro disc to boot and, not the hard drive. I know power is going to all the connected drives(147GB U320, CD-R/W, floppy) but, even after checking to see if I put the cables on backwards, they still aren't recognized through the data cable. Any help would be appreciated Christopher Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Prince of Peace Ozark, AL SL 82 * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
[CGUYS] Data Cables
I (physically)installed several hard drives in my computer yesterday but, now when I turn the computer on, the computer doesn't recognize my boot drive. I have configured my computer to boot from the CD-R/W drive since, I use the XP Pro disc to boot and, not the hard drive. I know power is going to all the connected drives(147GB U320, CD-R/W, floppy) but, even after checking to see if I put the cables on backwards, they still aren't recognized through the data cable. Any help would be appreciated Christopher * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
