Re: [CGUYS] Evil Apple...

2009-07-29 Thread t.piwowar

On Jul 28, 2009, at 5:53 PM, Art Clemons wrote:

Apple is demonstrating no more greed than other corporations who can
assert control over what they have produced or offer for sale.  Any  
day

now I expect to see some OS asserting that users can't research how to
utilize another OS with that OS as a condition of use in the United
States.


Good point. There seems to be no limit to what a vendor can stipulate  
in their EULA. I have seen one that prohibits benchmarking of their  
product. That is close to what you describe.



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[CGUYS] Evil Apple...

2009-07-28 Thread TPiwowar

...or ATT made them do it.

Apple Blocking Google Voice App
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2350840,00.asp

It is time for legislation to set our cell phones free.


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Re: [CGUYS] Evil Apple...

2009-07-28 Thread Art Clemons
 It is time for legislation to set our cell phones free.


Just making cell phones free or independent of carriers likely won't
really improve things.  I point to the up and down ability of the Palm
pre to masquerade as an IPOD with Itunes under windows and on the Mac as
an example of what can be done even if phones could easily switch
networks and carriers.  I'm also cynical about the type of legislation
offered when said leglslators are willing to allow RIAA suits to proceed
with outrageous penalties for what amounts to a claim of copyright
infringement and unlawful distribution.  The legal penalties are
actually less for photocopying a book and distributing said photocopy
than downloading an MP3 and leaving it available to be distributed.

Apple is demonstrating no more greed than other corporations who can
assert control over what they have produced or offer for sale.  Any day
now I expect to see some OS asserting that users can't research how to
utilize another OS with that OS as a condition of use in the United
States.


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Re: [CGUYS] Evil Apple...

2009-07-28 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall

Just a correction here.,

The Palm Pre does not run Windows.  It runs the newest Palm Software.

Stewart

At 04:53 PM 7/28/2009, you wrote:

Just making cell phones free or independent of carriers likely won't
really improve things.  I point to the up and down ability of the Palm
pre to masquerade as an IPOD with Itunes under windows and on the Mac as
an example of what can be done even if phones could easily switch
networks and carriers.  I'm also cynical about the type of legislation
offered when said leglslators are willing to allow RIAA suits to proceed
with outrageous penalties for what amounts to a claim of copyright
infringement and unlawful distribution.  The legal penalties are
actually less for photocopying a book and distributing said photocopy
than downloading an MP3 and leaving it available to be distributed.


Rev. Stewart A. Marshall
mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net
Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org
Ozark, AL  SL 82


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Re: [CGUYS] Evil Apple...

2009-07-28 Thread Mike
One more correction. He said the palm looks like an ipod under windows  
and macos.


Sent from my iPod

On Jul 28, 2009, at 2:58 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall popoz...@earthlink.net 
 wrote:



Just a correction here.,

The Palm Pre does not run Windows.  It runs the newest Palm Software.

Stewart

At 04:53 PM 7/28/2009, you wrote:

Just making cell phones free or independent of carriers likely won't
really improve things.  I point to the up and down ability of the  
Palm
pre to masquerade as an IPOD with Itunes under windows and on the  
Mac as

an example of what can be done even if phones could easily switch
networks and carriers.  I'm also cynical about the type of  
legislation
offered when said leglslators are willing to allow RIAA suits to  
proceed

with outrageous penalties for what amounts to a claim of copyright
infringement and unlawful distribution.  The legal penalties are
actually less for photocopying a book and distributing said photocopy
than downloading an MP3 and leaving it available to be distributed.


Rev. Stewart A. Marshall
mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net
Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org
Ozark, AL  SL 82


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