Re: [CGUYS] Windows 7 *user* reviews [Was: Office 2007]
On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 3:48 PM, Richard P. wrote: > I think Asus was making some monitors which were wide than normal to > accommodate the sidebar. Don't know if they were a hit or not, or if > they still exist. > Some of the Widescreen monitors were wide for watching widescreen movies and just happened to ad screen estate for things like the side bar which was a happy accident. -- John Duncan Yoyo ---o) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Windows 7 *user* reviews [Was: Office 2007]
I think Asus was making some monitors which were wide than normal to accommodate the sidebar. Don't know if they were a hit or not, or if they still exist. Richard P. > The problem with putting gadgets anywhere is keeping them visible. If > you keep them all on one side, at least you can try to open windows > opposite it. I use the Google sidebar which has always allowed one to > drag widgets all over. But I don't, because I want them all together > so I can see them. > > >> Right, but doesn't that take up the whole right side of your screen? In >> Win7, you can just have the clock, or calendar, or what-not, and drop >> them anywhere. And you can make them opaque, so they're never really in >> the way. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Windows 7 *user* reviews [Was: Office 2007]
The problem with putting gadgets anywhere is keeping them visible. If you keep them all on one side, at least you can try to open windows opposite it. I use the Google sidebar which has always allowed one to drag widgets all over. But I don't, because I want them all together so I can see them. > Right, but doesn't that take up the whole right side of your screen? In > Win7, you can just have the clock, or calendar, or what-not, and drop > them anywhere. And you can make them opaque, so they're never really in > the way. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Windows 7 *user* reviews [Was: Office 2007]
I could do that also. I have a dock at the office on a regular 17" monitor so I am changing screen sizes a lot and when I do that I was loosing the widgets. So I just opted for the dock right now. It is just handy with the dock right now. I also only use widgets that display the info while docked also. Other wise it would just be blobs over there. Stewart At 11:41 PM 3/28/2009, you wrote: On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 23:04:44 -0500, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: >At 10:45 PM 3/26/2009, you wrote: >>Actually it wasn't a ripoff from Apple, gadgets/widgets whatever you want >>to call them were around a long time before Apple. >> >I have them on XP called Widgets and Yahoo does them. > >Keeps a dock on my right hand side with selected widgets in >them. Including Clock and calendar. Right, but doesn't that take up the whole right side of your screen? In Win7, you can just have the clock, or calendar, or what-not, and drop them anywhere. And you can make them opaque, so they're never really in the way. -- R:\katan Tea. . .Earl Grey. . .Hot * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Windows 7 *user* reviews [Was: Office 2007]
On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 23:04:44 -0500, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: >At 10:45 PM 3/26/2009, you wrote: >>Actually it wasn't a ripoff from Apple, gadgets/widgets whatever you want >>to call them were around a long time before Apple. >> >I have them on XP called Widgets and Yahoo does them. > >Keeps a dock on my right hand side with selected widgets in >them. Including Clock and calendar. Right, but doesn't that take up the whole right side of your screen? In Win7, you can just have the clock, or calendar, or what-not, and drop them anywhere. And you can make them opaque, so they're never really in the way. -- R:\katan Tea. . .Earl Grey. . .Hot * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Windows 7 *user* reviews [Was: Office 2007]
mac and windows developer konfabulator. Not to mention the half dozen other companies that did gagdgets on windows and linux for years. On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 11:40 AM, Tom Piwowar wrote: > >I have them on XP called Widgets and Yahoo does them. > > Yahoo bought out Mac developer Konfabulator. > > > * > ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** > ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** > * > * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Windows 7 *user* reviews [Was: Office 2007]
>I have them on XP called Widgets and Yahoo does them. Yahoo bought out Mac developer Konfabulator. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Windows 7 *user* reviews [Was: Office 2007]
>Actually it wasn't a ripoff from Apple, gadgets/widgets whatever you want >to call them were around a long time before Apple. for DOS it was called Sidekick. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Windows 7 *user* reviews [Was: Office 2007]
>I want to turn off all of that automation -- such automation is just one >more way for hackers to do something malicious. So how come clicking on "Do Nothing" and checking the box to always perform the selected action does nothing? Is MS trying to be funny? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Windows 7 *user* reviews [Was: Office 2007]
>The UAC doesn't get in the way all that much. Although it can get >tedious if you're doing some system maintenance, it's not that hard to >plug in the admin password when installing a new program, but I found >it odd that you need admin privileges to delete desktop icons. Probably >icons for "all users", but still. The Mac fan bois over at Arstechnica seem to think UAC is a "broken mess." http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2009/03/opinion-ms-should-kill-win7-u ac.ars Windows 7's UAC is a broken mess; mend it or end it "I wrote a few weeks ago about changes Microsoft has made to Windows 7's User Account Control (UAC) that make the component less secure than it was in Vista. Though the company has responded by saying it will change some of the problem behaviors, yet more problems have emerged that indicate that a real fix will be harder than first expected. But more than that, the flaws call into question the entire purpose of the Windows UAC feature, at least in its commonplace "Admin Approval" mode." * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Windows 7 *user* reviews [Was: Office 2007]
> Right...but I still have to sort them. I want a system that can > analyze tags so when I open a folder labeled 'industrial' I get > all my music that is tagged as such no matter where it is. We > spend time tagging photos, tagging music...tagging docs and windows > still does nothing with those. OK, right. That is true. I wish they had done something with tags, too. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Windows 7 *user* reviews [Was: Office 2007]
http://lifehacker.com/software/optimization/turn-off-indexing-and-speed-up-windows-xp-031440.php That shows you how to turn off indexing, on my xp installs I didn't think indexing was on, I had to switch it on. Mike On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 2:33 AM, Fred Holmes wrote: > If I understand things correctly, all of these marvelous new ways of > keeping track of data files requires indexing the files. And the index is a > weak point for a hacker break-in to find exactly what he is looking for on > your computer. I'd like to have the option of turning off _all_ indexing on > my computer. One of the things that infuriates me about WinXP is that > whenever I plug in an external hard drive, XP proceeds to index it > immediately, and wants to do something "automatic" (e.g., play the music, > put it on a playlist somewhere, etc.) with it. I want to turn off all of > that automation -- such automation is just one more way for hackers to do > something malicious. > > Fred Holmes > > At 11:48 PM 3/26/2009, mike wrote: > >I understood libraries couldn't do more then aggregate folders not file > >types? So when I open the Pictures library, it opens all files in any of > >the attached folders to the library? > >I've wanted Apple's smart folders on windows since Apple put that feature > in > >OS X...wonderful tool for those of us who think these expensive complex > >machines should keep better track of files. > > > * > ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** > ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** > * > * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Windows 7 *user* reviews [Was: Office 2007]
Right...but I still have to sort them. I want a system that can analyze tags so when I open a folder labeled 'industrial' I get all my music that is tagged as such no matter where it is. We spend time tagging photos, tagging music...tagging docs and windows still does nothing with those. On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 3:06 AM, Chris Dunford wrote: > > I understood libraries couldn't do more then aggregate folders not file > > types. > > I didn't mean to imply that libraries aggregate by file type. Just the > opposite, really. Instead of containing all pictures or videos or whatever, > they would contain everything related to your collection of lemurs or your > annual six weeks in Gstaad, regardless of file type. > > > * > ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** > ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** > * > * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Windows 7 *user* reviews [Was: Office 2007]
> I understood libraries couldn't do more then aggregate folders not file > types. I didn't mean to imply that libraries aggregate by file type. Just the opposite, really. Instead of containing all pictures or videos or whatever, they would contain everything related to your collection of lemurs or your annual six weeks in Gstaad, regardless of file type. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Windows 7 *user* reviews [Was: Office 2007]
> This sort of data storage arrangement has always seemed to me to be the > wrong way to go. The first thing that I do when I set up a new > computer is arrange storage of data files by topic (content), not by > data type You can organize libraries any way you want. It's just a collection of folders that appears as a single object in Explorer (and any program that has been updated to understand them). * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Windows 7 *user* reviews [Was: Office 2007]
> If I understand things correctly, all of these marvelous new ways of > keeping track of data files requires indexing the files No, indexing has nothing to do with libraries. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Windows 7 *user* reviews [Was: Office 2007]
If I understand things correctly, all of these marvelous new ways of keeping track of data files requires indexing the files. And the index is a weak point for a hacker break-in to find exactly what he is looking for on your computer. I'd like to have the option of turning off _all_ indexing on my computer. One of the things that infuriates me about WinXP is that whenever I plug in an external hard drive, XP proceeds to index it immediately, and wants to do something "automatic" (e.g., play the music, put it on a playlist somewhere, etc.) with it. I want to turn off all of that automation -- such automation is just one more way for hackers to do something malicious. Fred Holmes At 11:48 PM 3/26/2009, mike wrote: >I understood libraries couldn't do more then aggregate folders not file >types? So when I open the Pictures library, it opens all files in any of >the attached folders to the library? >I've wanted Apple's smart folders on windows since Apple put that feature in >OS X...wonderful tool for those of us who think these expensive complex >machines should keep better track of files. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Windows 7 *user* reviews [Was: Office 2007]
At 09:58 PM 3/26/2009, katan wrote: >The "Libraries" folder seems pointless. It's just a rehash of some of >the folders in "Username" (My Pictures, My Music, My Documents, and My >Videos). This sort of data storage arrangement has always seemed to me to be the wrong way to go. The first thing that I do when I set up a new computer is arrange storage of data files by topic (content), not by data type. The idea of storing data files by data type has always seemed strange to me. It might be ok for a very few files and someone who regularly trashes old stuff, but the concept just isn't scalable for me. If MS is going to "improve" the OS at each "upgrade," it ought to work on helping the user with usable data storage arrangements. "My Pictures" hasn't changed since day one, I don't think. There may be some options now, but they aren't "advertised." When a vendor puts an image of the OS from his vendor's setup copy onto the users machine, he doesn't ask the user what sort of data storage arrangement is desired and customize accordingly. For the foregoing reasons, I keep data on an external hard drive, and just move it to a new computer when I purchase one. Backup is to an additional external hard drive. It has always seemed strange to me that the "home" edition of an MS OS is just a crippled version of the corporate edition. The home / home office edition of an OS should have all the bells and whistles that a user might need, and just eliminate (or turn off) all the tools that the IT department uses in a corporate environment to manage a computer remotely. The user interface should [optonally?] be set up under the assumption that the user is the administrator, and, in particular, will himself install all additional applications, etc. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Windows 7 *user* reviews [Was: Office 2007]
I have them on XP called Widgets and Yahoo does them. Keeps a dock on my right hand side with selected widgets in them. Including Clock and calendar. Plus for Laptops and battery monitor and a Wifi monitor. Stewart At 10:45 PM 3/26/2009, you wrote: Actually it wasn't a ripoff from Apple, gadgets/widgets whatever you want to call them were around a long time before Apple. On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 6:58 PM, katan wrote: > > > > I kind of like Gadgets for one reason: the analog clock. I like that > you can set the opacity and leave it up front (yes Tom, a rip-off from > Apple). It would be nice if you could put the date on the clock face. > Also if you could scroll over them (any of the Gadgets) without them > taking focus (like to click on any part of a window that's hiding > underneath), that would be nice. I found one (clock) on Download.com > for Win2k that was not unlike the Clock Gadget, but that was a painful > resource hog. It sucked up CPU time like it was mana from heaven. > > > > * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Windows 7 *user* reviews [Was: Office 2007]
I understood libraries couldn't do more then aggregate folders not file types? So when I open the Pictures library, it opens all files in any of the attached folders to the library? I've wanted Apple's smart folders on windows since Apple put that feature in OS X...wonderful tool for those of us who think these expensive complex machines should keep better track of files. On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 7:48 PM, Chris Dunford wrote: > > The "Libraries" folder seems pointless. It's just a rehash of some of > > the folders in "Username" (My Pictures, My Music, My Documents, and My > > Videos). > > No, no, libraries are way different from My Documents etc. You're just > seeing the default. > > They are folder aggregates, not folders, so if you have pictures in 20 > different folders, you can see them all in one view. > > Plus, you can create your own libraries, and you control what folders make > up each library. So you can make up a library for anything, not just > pictures, documents, etc. You could make a library for all of the files > (of > whatever type and wherever they are) of everything related to a particular > project and see them all as if they were in one folder. > > It's a nifty feature and well worth spending a little time exploring. > > > * > ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** > ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** > * > * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Windows 7 *user* reviews [Was: Office 2007]
Actually it wasn't a ripoff from Apple, gadgets/widgets whatever you want to call them were around a long time before Apple. On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 6:58 PM, katan wrote: > > > > I kind of like Gadgets for one reason: the analog clock. I like that > you can set the opacity and leave it up front (yes Tom, a rip-off from > Apple). It would be nice if you could put the date on the clock face. > Also if you could scroll over them (any of the Gadgets) without them > taking focus (like to click on any part of a window that's hiding > underneath), that would be nice. I found one (clock) on Download.com > for Win2k that was not unlike the Clock Gadget, but that was a painful > resource hog. It sucked up CPU time like it was mana from heaven. > > > > * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Windows 7 *user* reviews [Was: Office 2007]
> The "Libraries" folder seems pointless. It's just a rehash of some of > the folders in "Username" (My Pictures, My Music, My Documents, and My > Videos). No, no, libraries are way different from My Documents etc. You're just seeing the default. They are folder aggregates, not folders, so if you have pictures in 20 different folders, you can see them all in one view. Plus, you can create your own libraries, and you control what folders make up each library. So you can make up a library for anything, not just pictures, documents, etc. You could make a library for all of the files (of whatever type and wherever they are) of everything related to a particular project and see them all as if they were in one folder. It's a nifty feature and well worth spending a little time exploring. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
