Re: [CGUYS] iMac problem
On Aug 22, 2009, at 9:50 PM, Jordan wrote: My 2 year old intel iMac won't boot. I got a grey kernel crash screen yesterday, but it restarted and ran fine in the evening so I didn't take any time to investigate. This evening it started strangely, displayed properly, but would not run Eye TV. I tried to restart it and now all it does is play the audio crescendo, sounds like it reads the hard drive for a moment and then does nothing else. No display. I put the OS DVD in and started, holding C, and it makes noises like it's reading the DVD but gives up in a few moments. I tried resetting the NVRAM, but it won't reset it. No beeps. Instead of starting up with Command-C, do the same with Command- Option-Shift-Delete held down. If you succeed with startup it would indicate a hardware problem with the disk drive. The drive is easy to swap out on that model (if I'm guessing your model right). Restoring from your TimeMachine backup will get you back running quickly. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] iMac problem
TPiwowar wrote: On Aug 22, 2009, at 9:50 PM, Jordan wrote: My 2 year old intel iMac won't boot. I got a grey kernel crash screen yesterday, but it restarted and ran fine in the evening so I didn't take any time to investigate. This evening it started strangely, displayed properly, but would not run Eye TV. I tried to restart it and now all it does is play the audio crescendo, sounds like it reads the hard drive for a moment and then does nothing else. No display. I put the OS DVD in and started, holding C, and it makes noises like it's reading the DVD but gives up in a few moments. I tried resetting the NVRAM, but it won't reset it. No beeps. Instead of starting up with Command-C, do the same with Command-Option-Shift-Delete held down. If you succeed with startup it would indicate a hardware problem with the disk drive. The drive is easy to swap out on that model (if I'm guessing your model right). Restoring from your TimeMachine backup will get you back running quickly. Thanks I think I had tried that at one point last night, but in any case, it didn't start it just now when I did it. I don't know if I dreamed it up or read it somewhere but I just held down the start button until the light on the front started flashing, then it let out a long beeep and started! Just for reference, this it a 10.4 machine. I used Disk Utility to verify the internal disk and the external firewire disk and they both check out fine. I had a feeling this was a logic problem, or something other than hard drive. Please suggest what next steps to take to find out what went wrong. What hardware tests? What logs to read? I guess I'm happy to say that I have problems so seldom that I tend to forget what to do. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] iMac problem
On Aug 23, 2009, at 10:50 AM, Jordan wrote: I think I had tried that at one point last night, but in any case, it didn't start it just now when I did it. That suggests that it is probably not a hard drive problem. I don't know if I dreamed it up or read it somewhere but I just held down the start button until the light on the front started flashing, then it let out a long beeep and started! Good. I think that reset the power management unit. That definitely could have caused the problem you describe. I used Disk Utility to verify the internal disk and the external firewire disk and they both check out fine. I had a feeling this was a logic problem, or something other than hard drive. Good. Please suggest what next steps to take to find out what went wrong. What hardware tests? What logs to read? You are done. Nothing more to check. Nothing more to do. It is unlikely you will see this problem again. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] iMac problem
OK, thanks for the confirmation! I've been kind of busy since this morning and was afraid to shut it down or let it go to sleep. TPiwowar wrote: On Aug 23, 2009, at 10:50 AM, Jordan wrote: I think I had tried that at one point last night, but in any case, it didn't start it just now when I did it. That suggests that it is probably not a hard drive problem. I don't know if I dreamed it up or read it somewhere but I just held down the start button until the light on the front started flashing, then it let out a long beeep and started! Good. I think that reset the power management unit. That definitely could have caused the problem you describe. I used Disk Utility to verify the internal disk and the external firewire disk and they both check out fine. I had a feeling this was a logic problem, or something other than hard drive. Good. Please suggest what next steps to take to find out what went wrong. What hardware tests? What logs to read? You are done. Nothing more to check. Nothing more to do. It is unlikely you will see this problem again. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] iMac problem
I have a hard drive with a clone of an iMac's drive made with Carbon Copy cloner. I'd like to install that clone on another iMac. Is there a simple way to do this or do I have to go folder by folder, copying files over. Use Migration Assistant. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] iMac problem
This is very weird. The email I posted, which you are responding to, has not been delivered to my mail client, and you are responding tomorrow! I did not see a way to use Migration assistant from a drive that is not in another Mac. Do I just plug the drive into the target Mac and access it that way somehow? I'll take another look. Thanks * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] iMac problem
I see what you mean now. Thanks Tom Piwowar wrote: I have a hard drive with a clone of an iMac's drive made with Carbon Copy cloner. I'd like to install that clone on another iMac. Is there a simple way to do this or do I have to go folder by folder, copying files over. Use Migration Assistant. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] iMac problem
I did not see a way to use Migration assistant from a drive that is not in another Mac. Do I just plug the drive into the target Mac and access it that way somehow? Yes. One of the options is From another drive on this Mac. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
