Re: [DISCUSS] Graduation resolution for ManifoldCF

2012-05-01 Thread Jukka Zitting
Hi,

On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 3:13 PM, Karl Wright daddy...@gmail.com wrote:
 Looks like we missed a step; we need a graduation resolution for the
 board to vote on.  Here's my proposal, basically copied from Apache
 Chemistry's, but I have a question. Since no distinction is made
 between the PPMC members and committers in this resolution, and since
 many of the original committers/IPMC members have become inactive, and
 others have not yet been voted in as PPMC members, how should we deal
 with that?

* Overall the resolution looks good, though note my comment on the scope below.

* As discussed before, I don't think making a distinction between
committers and (P)PMC members is useful for us. IMO such a setup only
makes sense for umbrella projects like the Incubator and Lucene
before it split out most of its subprojects. So my recommendation
would be to make all (still active) committers also PMC members and
stick with that policy going forward.

* As for inactive people, you're already doing a good job asking them
whether they still want to be involved. In case someone doesn't reply
and hasn't shown up on the lists over the last year or so, it's fine
to simply drop them from the resolution for lack of response.

 Also, do we need to vote on who the vice president will
 be?  I believe we do...  but maybe we can do this as part of the vote
 on the resolution itself?

You're already doing all the stuff a VP should be doing, and more, so
I hereby nominate you to be the VP, Apache ManifoldCF. We can have a
vote if other nominations are made, or consider you selected by lazy
consensus otherwise.

        WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests
        of the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to
        establish a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and
        maintenance of open-source software providing a framework for 
 transferring
        content from source content repositories to target repositories or 
 indexes,
        including a security model permitting target repositories to enforce 
 source
        repository security, for distribution at no charge to the public;

This is a pretty lengthy scope definition. Can we simplify it a bit?

For example something like: ... open-source software for transferring
content between repositories or search indexes. The details of how
this is achieved (framework, security model, etc.) are IMHO best left
outside the scope to allow more freedom down the line for the project
to evolve.

        RESOLVED, that the Apache ManifoldCF Project be and hereby is
        responsible for the creation and maintenance of software providing a
        framework for transferring content from source content repositories to
        target repositories or indexes, including a security model permitting 
 target
        repositories to enforce source repository security, for distribution
        at no charge to the public.

This should also be updated as discussed above.

PS. If you don't mind, I'd be happy to stay on board the new
ManifoldCF PMC at least for some time to help out with the transition
to TLP.

BR,

Jukka Zitting


Re: [DISCUSS] Graduation resolution for ManifoldCF

2012-05-01 Thread Karl Wright
Seems reasonable; I'll revise the resolution accordingly and put it up
for a vote over the next couple of hours.

Thanks!
Karl

On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 5:16 AM, Jukka Zitting jukka.zitt...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 3:13 PM, Karl Wright daddy...@gmail.com wrote:
 Looks like we missed a step; we need a graduation resolution for the
 board to vote on.  Here's my proposal, basically copied from Apache
 Chemistry's, but I have a question. Since no distinction is made
 between the PPMC members and committers in this resolution, and since
 many of the original committers/IPMC members have become inactive, and
 others have not yet been voted in as PPMC members, how should we deal
 with that?

 * Overall the resolution looks good, though note my comment on the scope 
 below.

 * As discussed before, I don't think making a distinction between
 committers and (P)PMC members is useful for us. IMO such a setup only
 makes sense for umbrella projects like the Incubator and Lucene
 before it split out most of its subprojects. So my recommendation
 would be to make all (still active) committers also PMC members and
 stick with that policy going forward.

 * As for inactive people, you're already doing a good job asking them
 whether they still want to be involved. In case someone doesn't reply
 and hasn't shown up on the lists over the last year or so, it's fine
 to simply drop them from the resolution for lack of response.

 Also, do we need to vote on who the vice president will
 be?  I believe we do...  but maybe we can do this as part of the vote
 on the resolution itself?

 You're already doing all the stuff a VP should be doing, and more, so
 I hereby nominate you to be the VP, Apache ManifoldCF. We can have a
 vote if other nominations are made, or consider you selected by lazy
 consensus otherwise.

        WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests
        of the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to
        establish a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and
        maintenance of open-source software providing a framework for 
 transferring
        content from source content repositories to target repositories or 
 indexes,
        including a security model permitting target repositories to enforce 
 source
        repository security, for distribution at no charge to the public;

 This is a pretty lengthy scope definition. Can we simplify it a bit?

 For example something like: ... open-source software for transferring
 content between repositories or search indexes. The details of how
 this is achieved (framework, security model, etc.) are IMHO best left
 outside the scope to allow more freedom down the line for the project
 to evolve.

        RESOLVED, that the Apache ManifoldCF Project be and hereby is
        responsible for the creation and maintenance of software providing a
        framework for transferring content from source content repositories to
        target repositories or indexes, including a security model permitting 
 target
        repositories to enforce source repository security, for distribution
        at no charge to the public.

 This should also be updated as discussed above.

 PS. If you don't mind, I'd be happy to stay on board the new
 ManifoldCF PMC at least for some time to help out with the transition
 to TLP.

 BR,

 Jukka Zitting


[VOTE] Graduation resolution for ManifoldCF

2012-05-01 Thread Karl Wright
Thanks, Jukka, I'd be honored to take on the role of VP in a
ManifoldCF top-level project.

Incorporating Jukka's invaluable advice, I've updated the proposed
resolution, and am opening a vote on it.  Please vote +1 if you agree
that this is the resolution that should be presented, in total,
including myself in the role of Vice President, or -1 if you see
changes you would like to make (or if you'd like to nominate someone
else and hold a formal vote on the VP role).

==
WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests
of the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to
establish a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and
maintenance of open-source software for transferring content between
repositories or search indexes, for distribution at no charge to the 
public;

NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee
(PMC), to be known as the Apache ManifoldCF Project, be and hereby is
established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further

RESOLVED, that the Apache ManifoldCF Project be and hereby is
responsible for the creation and maintenance of open-source software for
transferring content between repositories or search indexes, for 
distribution
at no charge to the public.

RESOLVED, that the office of Vice President, ManifoldCF be and hereby
is created, the person holding such office to serve at the direction
of the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache ManifoldCF
Project, and to have primary responsibility for management of the
projects within the scope of responsibility of the Apache ManifoldCF
Project; and be it further

RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are
appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache ManifoldCF
Project:

* Shinichiro Abe (shinich...@apache.org)
* Erlend Garåsen(rid...@apache.org)
* Piergiorgio Lucidi  (piergior...@apache.org)
* Hitoshi Ozawa  (hoz...@apache.org)
* Tommaso Teofili   (tomm...@apache.org)
* Simon Willnauer(sim...@apache.org)
* Karl Wright  (kwri...@apache.org)
* Jukka Zitting   (ju...@apache.org)

NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Karl Wright be
appointed to the office of Vice President, ManifoldCF, to serve in
accordance with and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors
and the Bylaws of the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement,
removal or disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be
it further

RESOLVED, that the initial Apache ManifoldCF Project be and hereby is
tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to encourage open
development and increased participation in the ManifoldCF Project; and
be it further

RESOLVED, that the initial Apache ManifoldCF Project be and hereby is
tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache Incubator
ManifoldCF podling; and be it further

RESOLVED, that all responsibility pertaining to the Apache Incubator
ManifoldCF podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator PMC are
hereafter discharged.
==

+1 from me.

Thanks again for the vote of confidence!
Karl


On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 5:16 AM, Jukka Zitting jukka.zitt...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 3:13 PM, Karl Wright daddy...@gmail.com wrote:
 Looks like we missed a step; we need a graduation resolution for the
 board to vote on.  Here's my proposal, basically copied from Apache
 Chemistry's, but I have a question. Since no distinction is made
 between the PPMC members and committers in this resolution, and since
 many of the original committers/IPMC members have become inactive, and
 others have not yet been voted in as PPMC members, how should we deal
 with that?

 * Overall the resolution looks good, though note my comment on the scope 
 below.

 * As discussed before, I don't think making a distinction between
 committers and (P)PMC members is useful for us. IMO such a setup only
 makes sense for umbrella projects like the Incubator and Lucene
 before it split out most of its subprojects. So my recommendation
 would be to make all (still active) committers also PMC members and
 stick with that policy going forward.

 * As for inactive people, you're already doing a good job asking them
 whether they still want to be involved. In case someone doesn't reply
 and hasn't shown up on the lists over the last year or so, it's fine
 to simply drop them from the resolution for lack of response.

 Also, do we need to vote on who the vice president will
 be?  I believe we do...  but maybe we can do this as part of 

Re: [VOTE] Graduation resolution for ManifoldCF

2012-05-01 Thread Piergiorgio Lucidi
+1 from me :)

Piergiorgio

2012/5/1 Karl Wright daddy...@gmail.com

 Thanks, Jukka, I'd be honored to take on the role of VP in a
 ManifoldCF top-level project.

 Incorporating Jukka's invaluable advice, I've updated the proposed
 resolution, and am opening a vote on it.  Please vote +1 if you agree
 that this is the resolution that should be presented, in total,
 including myself in the role of Vice President, or -1 if you see
 changes you would like to make (or if you'd like to nominate someone
 else and hold a formal vote on the VP role).

 ==
 WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
 interests
of the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to
establish a Project Management Committee charged with the creation
 and
 maintenance of open-source software for transferring content
 between
repositories or search indexes, for distribution at no charge to
 the public;

NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee
(PMC), to be known as the Apache ManifoldCF Project, be and
 hereby is
established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further

 RESOLVED, that the Apache ManifoldCF Project be and hereby is
 responsible for the creation and maintenance of open-source
 software for
transferring content between repositories or search indexes, for
 distribution
 at no charge to the public.

 RESOLVED, that the office of Vice President, ManifoldCF be and
 hereby
is created, the person holding such office to serve at the direction
of the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache ManifoldCF
Project, and to have primary responsibility for management of the
projects within the scope of responsibility of the Apache ManifoldCF
Project; and be it further

RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby
 are
appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache ManifoldCF
Project:

* Shinichiro Abe (shinich...@apache.org)
* Erlend Garåsen(rid...@apache.org)
 * Piergiorgio Lucidi  (piergior...@apache.org)
* Hitoshi Ozawa  (hoz...@apache.org)
 * Tommaso Teofili   (tomm...@apache.org)
* Simon Willnauer(sim...@apache.org)
* Karl Wright  (kwri...@apache.org)
* Jukka Zitting   (ju...@apache.org)

 NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Karl Wright be
 appointed to the office of Vice President, ManifoldCF, to serve in
accordance with and subject to the direction of the Board of
 Directors
and the Bylaws of the Foundation until death, resignation,
 retirement,
removal or disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and
 be
it further

RESOLVED, that the initial Apache ManifoldCF Project be and hereby
 is
tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to encourage
 open
development and increased participation in the ManifoldCF Project;
 and
be it further

RESOLVED, that the initial Apache ManifoldCF Project be and hereby
 is
tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache
 Incubator
ManifoldCF podling; and be it further

RESOLVED, that all responsibility pertaining to the Apache Incubator
ManifoldCF podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator PMC are
hereafter discharged.
 ==

 +1 from me.

 Thanks again for the vote of confidence!
 Karl


 On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 5:16 AM, Jukka Zitting jukka.zitt...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Hi,
 
  On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 3:13 PM, Karl Wright daddy...@gmail.com wrote:
  Looks like we missed a step; we need a graduation resolution for the
  board to vote on.  Here's my proposal, basically copied from Apache
  Chemistry's, but I have a question. Since no distinction is made
  between the PPMC members and committers in this resolution, and since
  many of the original committers/IPMC members have become inactive, and
  others have not yet been voted in as PPMC members, how should we deal
  with that?
 
  * Overall the resolution looks good, though note my comment on the scope
 below.
 
  * As discussed before, I don't think making a distinction between
  committers and (P)PMC members is useful for us. IMO such a setup only
  makes sense for umbrella projects like the Incubator and Lucene
  before it split out most of its subprojects. So my recommendation
  would be to make all (still active) committers also PMC members and
  stick with that policy going forward.
 
  * As for inactive people, you're already doing a good job asking them
  whether they still want to be involved. In case someone doesn't reply
  and hasn't shown up on the lists over the last year or so, it's fine
  to simply drop them from the resolution for lack of response.
 
  Also, do we need to vote on who the vice president will