Re[2]: [Cooker] RPM _interactive_ %post script?
Hello Axalon, Friday, Friday, August 27, 1999, you wrote: AB Let me clairify, i didn't say to add any interaction, thats totaly AB contrary to the basic concept of rpm. Jean-Michel needs to inform the AB admin that it's not fully setup yet, kpackage gnorpm and others do not AB show the echos from a %post. Lots of packages need to be configured on a AB site by site basis, echoing "Hey add your servers IP to /etc/foo.cfg" in a AB %post is a good way to let the admin know about it without sending them AB diggin thru 2Mb's of text. why not generate a write protected file with just those remarks in it, sitting om the desktop...or whatever suitable place you want. Shouldnt be that much if they have a decent layout and then its a matter of working through the list and fix what needs fixing.. (snip)
RE: [Cooker] mdkinst_stage2.gz file??
On Fri, 27 Aug 1999, Bill Lea Greenwood / Vision Computer / Fringe on the Top, Ltd wrote: BTW Ax, has the libstdc++ file install problem been fixed?? Nothings been done yet by me, keep track of your rpm Selections if you use custom install ok?
Re: [Cooker] mdkinst_stage2.gz file??
Axalon Bloodstone [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Fri, 27 Aug 1999, Bill Lea Greenwood / Vision Computer / Fringe on the Top, Ltd wrote: "Bill Lea Greenwood / Vision Computer / Fringe on the Top, Ltd" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Just noticed a new file in the /base directory called: mdkinst_stage2.gz What is it, and how do we use it?? it's new :) it's the mdkinst directory in ext2 gzipped. As i am now able to handle big ramdisks (just use ramdisk=32000 at kernel boot) For someone who doesn't know how to do this, your gunna have to explain step-by-step. Is this a selection on the main screen now?? no, all auto. the ramdisk=32000 option does not use any memory, it just fixes the maximum size of the ramdisk. The kernel does the rest. , it's gonna solve the ftp install problem, and also the slow cdrom access-time problem, and last but not least the hd install from fat filesystems. Only problem it needs a lot of memory (12MB only for the ramdisk), add this to the 12MB minimum for the graphic install :( So, for cdrom install, i use the mdkinst_stage2 if memory is low ( 40MB), and the live mdkinst otherwise. I assume these are a selection on the main screen now?? And it is very obvious how to use it?? again, all auto. For ftp install, i use the mdkinst_stage2 in any case (no choice). For hd install, i use the mdkinst_stage2 if .../Mandrake/mdkinst/usr/bin/runinstall2 is not a link. For nfs install, i use the live mdkinst in any case. no no nothing complicated, just update the boot disks like you normaly would and report any error's yep :) cu Pixel.
RE: [Cooker] mdkinst_stage2.gz file??
You just made my day ;o)) Patrick Putteman Internet Support Manager Net 7 - Member of the Advalvas Group www.net7.be -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Pascal RIgaux Sent: Friday, August 27, 1999 11:29 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Cooker] mdkinst_stage2.gz file?? "Bill Lea Greenwood / Vision Computer / Fringe on the Top, Ltd" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Just noticed a new file in the /base directory called: mdkinst_stage2.gz What is it, and how do we use it?? it's new :) it's the mdkinst directory in ext2 gzipped. As i am now able to handle big ramdisks (just use ramdisk=32000 at kernel boot), it's gonna solve the ftp install problem, and also the slow cdrom access-time problem, and last but not least the hd install from fat filesystems. Only problem it needs a lot of memory (12MB only for the ramdisk), add this to the 12MB minimum for the graphic install :( So, for cdrom install, i use the mdkinst_stage2 if memory is low ( 40MB), and the live mdkinst otherwise. For ftp install, i use the mdkinst_stage2 in any case (no choice). For hd install, i use the mdkinst_stage2 if .../Mandrake/mdkinst/usr/bin/runinstall2 is not a link. For nfs install, i use the live mdkinst in any case. cu Pixel.
RE: [Cooker] mdkinst_stage2.gz file??
-Original Message- From: Axalon Bloodstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] So which do you use workstation or server? Normally Workstation, but all that has changed now. Actually, I kinda miss the old simple Workstation selection. Since we are talking about this, I suggest there is a selection for KDE, and a separate one for Gnome, as this would make it easy to install ALL the packages related to either one, or both of those selections. Just a thought. -Bill
RE: [Cooker] mdkinst_stage2.gz file??
For someone who doesn't know how to do this, your gunna have to explain step-by-step. Is this a selection on the main screen now?? no, all auto. the ramdisk=32000 option does not use any memory, it just fixes the maximum size of the ramdisk. The kernel does the rest. OK, thanks to both you Pixel and Axalon for helping me with this! -Bill cu Pixel.
RE: [Cooker] mdkinst_stage2.gz file??
So-- do I need to delete the mdkinst directory off of my hard disk before I use this so that it will find this new file, or do I just leave it. In other words, which is the default, the new file, or the mdkinst directory?? -Bill
Re: [Cooker] Who use Linux-Mandrake professionally?
Nice PR job! It's very interesting! I will send you our use of Mandrake so you can add NetRevolution to the list. Jean-Michel Dault [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] François Régnier wrote: Hello, This is the first results of the survey about the professional uses of Linux-Mandrake: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/bizcase Don't hesitate to send corrections or complements on your case. To have the whole list: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/cgi-bin/bizcase? If you know cases of uses which are not in this list, please send me an e-mail. François
RE: [Cooker] mdkinst_stage2.gz file??
"Bill Lea Greenwood / Vision Computer / Fringe on the Top, Ltd" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So-- do I need to delete the mdkinst directory off of my hard disk before I use this so that it will find this new file, or do I just leave it. In other words, which is the default, the new file, or the mdkinst directory?? read what i've written :ppp in short, it depends the type of install (hd/cdrom/...) cu Pixel. Oh ok, that's what you meant by that part. That portion was unclear to me. Will give it a try now with a clean install, and report any problems. -Bill
Re: [Cooker] mdkinst_stage2.gz file??
"Bill Lea Greenwood / Vision Computer / Fringe on the Top, Ltd" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: "Bill Lea Greenwood / Vision Computer / Fringe on the Top, Ltd" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So-- do I need to delete the mdkinst directory off of my hard disk before I use this so that it will find this new file, or do I just leave it. In other words, which is the default, the new file, or the mdkinst directory?? read what i've written :ppp in short, it depends the type of install (hd/cdrom/...) cu Pixel. Oh ok, that's what you meant by that part. That portion was unclear to me. Will give it a try now with a clean install, and report any problems. maybe wait until it put a new version... i broke quite a lot of things :( cu Pixel.
[Cooker] Can't umount /var
Hi! I installed latest initscripts (-25mdk) and mount (w-1mdk) packages, and when rebooting, I got a "failed" because a device is busy. The /var partition cannot be umounted. Please note that I don't have latest cooker installed, most of my system is still Venus. Is there a bug somewhere, or should I upgrade some (which?) packages in order to correct this problem? TIA Gregus -- == Embrace and Extend == http://www.gnu.org/philosophy ==
Re: [Cooker] Problem detecting eth card
Real Ouellet [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Pascal Rigaux wrote: please give your /proc/bus/pci/devices i'll check if it's autodetected now... 0038 80861229 5 e208 b801 df80 well it should be autodetected... i don't see why :( cu Pixel.
[Cooker] FTP daemons
Cooker's default ftpd is BeroFTPD, and I bet the choice was made because Kberoftp was supposed to make the setting up administration of the ftp daemon easier However, beroftpd is IMHO still very difficult to configure, not what I would call "user friendly" or "targetted at the newbies". For instance I still haven't found how to create an user account on the ftp without creating an user on the whole system. Glftpd is really easier to use, and comes with a FAQ and a documentation that anyone can understand. Adding an user to the ftp is as simple as logging to the ftp and typing: site adduser name Moreover, I have not heard of any exploit affecting glftpd so far. And I'm not the only one who likes glftpd better than beroftpd since Linuxberg gave it 5 stars when beroftpd only had 3 :) http://alpha1.linuxberg.com/conhtml/ser_ftp.html The main url is http://www.glftpd.org , but it seems to be down today, so here's the freshmeat appindex http://freshmeat.net/appindex/1999/01/15/916446705.html
Re: [Cooker] Panoramix won't detect 3c509 nic
Bruce McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: All, I can verify this. No matter how I tried (in a user fashion), panoramix did not allow me to configure networking. there's now a little networking handling... cu Pixel.
Re: [Cooker] Unable to install diskdrake
terrapin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Following the links from the mandrake home page, I found the latest diskdrake under /contrib/other but am unable to install this package. error msg: package diskdrake-990824-9mdk is for a different architecture sorry, currently uploading a i586 version :( (diskdrake-990824-10mdk.i586.rpm) cu Pixel.
Re: [Cooker] No X option on installation
On Fri, 27 Aug 1999, [iso-8859-1] Grégoire Colbert wrote: Hi! I'd like to see a "Minimum/no-X" installation option for Mandrake. It would only select the bare minimum packages needed to run the system with networking support, and only command-line tools. What do you think about it? Maybe make it a sub-selection of the "Expert" choice...? Gregus The minimal install useing the newt installer is about 120Megs, the minimal install useing the graphic installer has been reduced to about 80megs. ;) we're working on it
Re: [Cooker] Unable to install diskdrake
On Fri, 27 Aug 1999, you wrote: sorry, currently uploading a i586 version :( (diskdrake-990824-10mdk.i586.rpm) Even though there were some error messages and it ended with a segfault and core dump (very similar to the ones I reported earlier), I managed to convert a 1gig FAT32 to ext2, format it and change it to my new /usr/local. I had put /usr/local and mandrake stuff in /tmp and after reboot, was able to relocate back to new /usr/local. Very handy program... My /home and /usr/local are getting to be "personalized" with lots of stuff and I don't want to have to redo after I do another install. Things working pretty good. Haven't re-installed since 22nd or tried the new Panoramix yet. Maybe on the weekend. I'm starting to do productive stuff with linux now and have to search for some nice apps. Unfortunately, I have to go back to windows and use CorelDraw to get some stuff done. Thanks. PS. I may be splitting this 1gig in the future and will record all error messages.
[Cooker] Panoramix Experience..
I just rebooted after having a look at panoramix. When I got into the graphical part of panoramix it asked me again for my scsi card even though the txt version asked the same thing. Then I get into disk druid. And it can only see the partitions on my first harddisk. The other 2 harddisks where 'empty' (but as I am now in linux running of sdb I guess it is wrong :) ). Anyhow as I didn't wanna repartition everything I rebooted the machine. (I have some partitions on my hdb that I don't wanna fuck up) and what do I notice.. DiskDruid has fucked up my ext2 partition it could see on sda. And that was the only ext2 partition that I definetly didn't wanna loose as it contains my mirror of mandrake.. My scsi setup is like this.. AHA 2940u2w id:0 9.1 gb lvd drive on the lvd connector id:1 9.1 gb lvd drive on the lvd connector (active terminator) id:2 9.1 gb u2 drive on the u2 connector (terminated) AHA 2940uw id:4 Tandberg SLR5 (streamer) id:5 Plextor R820TI (cdr) Wouldn't it be wise to have the disk druid not to write ANYTHING on the disks until I click something like 'done' or 'apply'?? And howcome it didn't detect the partitions on sdb and sdc?? Disk /dev/sda: 255 heads, 63 sectors, 1106 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 bytes Device BootStart EndBlocks Id System /dev/sda1 * 1 269 2160711b Win95 FAT32 /dev/sda2 283 1106 6618780f Win95 Ext'd (LBA) /dev/sda3 270 282104422+ 83 Linux ^ ^ There should be an /dev/sda5 but it is now gone to /dev/nul or something Disk /dev/sdb: 255 heads, 63 sectors, 1106 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 bytes Device BootStart EndBlocks Id System /dev/sdb1 126208813+ 83 Linux /dev/sdb227421285205 Extended /dev/sdb343 1106 8546580 83 Linux /dev/sdb52742128488+ 82 Linux swap Disk /dev/sdc: 255 heads, 63 sectors, 1106 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 bytes Device BootStart EndBlocks Id System /dev/sdc1 2 1106 8875912+ 83 Linux Michael Irving
Re: [Cooker] Panoramix Experience..
Hi, I just wanted to mention that I also had the new GUI disk partition thing completely hose my partition table. I have two IDE drives. My second drive had a SuSE install with a bunch of partitions, and one spare where I figured I would just put the cooker root, then I could mount my homedir. Anyway, the reason I'm able to report this problem rather than screwing around re-installing my system is because I found a wonderful tool called rescuept. This great little thing let me manually rebuild my partition table and get my SuSE back (along with all my MP3s and home directory!!) All I did was boot with the latest hd image (with the cooker distribution on another drive which thankfully didn't get hosed). I chose expert mode, no scsi. When the partition tool came up, all I did was hit "done" because I didn't want to do any partitioning (I already had my partitions setup, thank you very much!) Anway, I think I'll wait a few days before I try this again. :) Chris
Re: [Cooker] RPM _interactive_ %post script?
Kaixo! On Fri, Aug 27, 1999 at 02:08:40AM +, Jean-Michel Dault wrote: I have a few packages that would require an interactive post-install script. Not possible. And not negotiable either; rpm *must* be runable from shell scripts, so no interactive scripts are allowed. That has been discussed a lot on rpm mailing list; and the conclusion has been that the smart solution for that problem is to have the post install script to create a flag file, and when the program is first launched it checks for that flag file, and if exists launchs the interactive thing. For example, MySQL could ask for the database password to create, Frontpage could ask for the name of a virtual host. Those are *configuration* things and must not be done at installation by the root adminsitrator but instead done by the people in charge to manage such servers (yes, on home computers he is the same person; but not on most real life business situations) I haven't found the perfect way to do it yet. Assuming defaults is very dangerous regarding security when it comes to passwords, and we all know the PITA we had with Postgresql over-writing a poor user's database when upgrading. How comes ? If it does that the rpm package is dead-bugged and the *.spec file must be rewritten; could you tell me exactly what is overwritten ? What would be great is a special attribute to the %post section, something like "%post --interactive" that could start an xterm or pause No, that won't be great as that would hand forever updates done trough ssh somemachine -c "rpm -Uv *.rpm" for example. Therefore such thing will never been implemented. Maybe there is a better solution. If any of you has an idea, just let me know. If you really absolutely need to launch some interactive script to have a program useable, use a flag file (tagged as %ghost on spec file to avoid rpm -V warnings when it won't exist anymore; and created by a touch on %post script, depending if it is a first install (if [ "$1" = "1" ] ) or not); and then have your program chack for that file; you can use a script wrapper for that also. Jean-Michel Dault [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- À bientôt, Pablo Saratxaga http://www.ping.be/~pin19314/ PGP Key available, key ID: 0x8F0E4975
Re: [Cooker] Vote for a BulletProofFTP Port to Linux
Sam Gentile wrote: No I don't have a DSL line. What is cooker.tar? The whole site? Where is it? Also, how do I put it on my system. My Mandrake system boots automatically into KDE. How do I make these updates? Or do I install all over? I'm really confused. Do you have your linux box connected to the network? If so can you download fmirror? It works pretty good from the bash prompt. I can give you the exact syntax if you need.
Re: [Cooker] new Panoramix install
webmedic wrote: One other request if it is possible. I use an ls-120 drive exclusively and mandrake uses it just fine just like it would a floppy. even when I'm installing cooker I do it all from my ls-120 accept one problem. When it comes time to make a boot disk during the install, the install doesn't recognize my ls-120 because it is looking for /dev/fd0 and not /dev/hdd. On my system my ls-120 is /dev/hdd. Glad to see I'm not the only one using it. Rawrite won't work with it either.
Re: [Cooker] RPM _interactive_ %post script?
On Sat, 28 Aug 1999, Pablo Saratxaga wrote: Kaixo! On Fri, Aug 27, 1999 at 01:41:40AM -0600, Axalon Bloodstone wrote: Let me clairify, i didn't say to add any interaction, thats totaly contrary to the basic concept of rpm. Jean-Michel needs to inform the admin that it's not fully setup yet, kpackage gnorpm and others do not show the echos from a %post. Lots of packages need to be configured on a site by site basis, echoing "Hey add your servers IP to /etc/foo.cfg" in a %post is a good way to let the admin know about it without sending them diggin thru 2Mb's of text. Mmmh, I send a mail to gnorpm author suggesting him that a window is shown in case the install/uninstall scripts do any output. Hmm, if the kpackage author/maintainer is out there say "Aye", if not they need tobe notified also. -- MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com/ --Axalon
