[Cooker] vnc-server-3.3.3r2-5mdk broken

[SI Reasoning]

error: failed dependencies:
/   is needed by vnc-server-3.3.3r2-5mdk
is   is needed by vnc-server-3.3.3r2-5mdk
not   is needed by vnc-server-3.3.3r2-5mdk
owned   is needed by vnc-server-3.3.3r2-5mdk
by   is needed by vnc-server-3.3.3r2-5mdk
any   is needed by vnc-server-3.3.3r2-5mdk
package   is needed by vnc-server-3.3.3r2-5mdk
in/   is needed by vnc-server-3.3.3r2-5mdk
in/perl   is needed by vnc-server-3.3.3r2-5mdk
RESULT=1

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Re: [Cooker] Mandrake Cooker - kde 2.2.2-15mdk

[SI Reasoning]

same here
--- guran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tuesday 11 December 2001 12:39 am, SI Reasoning
> wrote:
> > I am doing a fresh install of cooker and I got an
> > error message that kde-base-2.2.2-15mdk.rpm
> failed.
> >
> 
> I installed kdebase manually afterwards, and mine is
> runnung fine.
> 
> regards
> guran
> 
> -- 
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> version:2001:12:08:18:54
> 

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Re: [Cooker] fresh cooker install / kdebase-2.2.2-15mdk is bad

[guran]

On Tuesday 11 December 2001 5:04 am, Dan Mack wrote:
> I think others have noticed this as well, here is another data point during
> a fresh cooker install this evening; I am getting these errors on the
> console when kdebase-2.2.2 fails to install:

Try a manual install of kdebase after you finished the total installation - 
it helped for me.

regards
guran

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Re: [Cooker] Mandrake Cooker - kde 2.2.2-15mdk

[guran]

On Tuesday 11 December 2001 12:39 am, SI Reasoning wrote:
> I am doing a fresh install of cooker and I got an
> error message that kde-base-2.2.2-15mdk.rpm failed.
>

I installed kdebase manually afterwards, and mine is runnung fine.

regards
guran

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RE: [Cooker] PHP 4.1.0

[Chris Edwards]

Heh, they've boasted about all these improvements in Windows, but they
haven't released the windows binaries yet :)..

-Chris

>We  want to thank Brett Brewer and his team in Microsoft for working
>with us to improve PHP for Windows.

>Waw Microsoft and PHP! Waw!

Re: [Cooker] PHP 4.1.0

[Yura Gusev]

On Mon, 10 Dec 2001, Chris Edwards wrote:

> It's out!!! *cheers*
We  want to thank Brett Brewer and his team in Microsoft for working
with us to improve PHP for Windows.

Waw Microsoft and PHP! Waw!

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[Cooker] Which is the culprit?

[John Cavan]

I can't seem to build a bootable kernel anymore. It gets to:

Loading linux.

And then reboots. Very strange.

However, two major and influential pieces have undergone updates on
Cooker recently: binutils and gcc. One of these would appear to be the
guilty party.

I've tried grub and lilo, both fail. I can boot an older kernel, built
before the binutils/gcc updates, but not anything compiled since.

On the other hand, if I build a kernel on another machine, it's fine.

John

Re: [Cooker] Sound with Compaq Presario 700CA laptop

[George Mitchell]

Denis Pelletier wrote:

>Hello,
>
>I installed Cooker (Mandrake 8.1 + upgrade to cooker) on my new Compaq
>Presario 700CA laptop and the sound does not work. This laptop is based on
>the integrated chipset KN133 (AMD Duron). The sound card is detected and
>correctly configured by hardDrake (model VT82C686 [Apollo Super
>AC97/Audio] with kernel module via82cxxx_audio). But I can't get any sound
>with this laptop.
>
>This is probably due to the two sound buttons on the laptop (a + and - to
>increase/decrease the volume). I guess that something else has to be
>activated but what? Has anyone seen something similar?
>
>Thanks.
>
>Denis
>___
>Denis Pelletier
>Étudiant au doctorat
>sciences économiques, Université de Montréal
>
>
>
Assuming you have the line 'alias sound-slot-0 via82cxxx_audio' in your 
/etc/modules.conf file.  You've checked that, correct?  You might also 
want to load the kernel docs package.  As I recall there is some info on 
the sound modules in there somewhere.

[Cooker] Error installing gnome-guile-0.20-14mdk.i586

[Dan Mack]

During a fresh cooker install I got the following error dialog:

  There was an error installing packages:
 gnome-guile-0.20-14mdk.i586
 Go on anyway?

The same thing happened with kdebase-2.2.2

My install tree was just rsync'd clean from uninett.

Dan

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Mack Tron Ics 
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[Cooker] fresh cooker install / kdebase-2.2.2-15mdk is bad

[Dan Mack]

I think others have noticed this as well, here is another data point during
a fresh cooker install this evening; I am getting these errors on the
console when kdebase-2.2.2 fails to install:

  getFile kdebase-2.2.2-15mdk.i586.rpm:Installation CD
  rpmRunTransactions done, now trying to close still opened fd
  getFile XXX:
  rpm database closed
  bad package kdebase-2.2.2-15mdk.i586 unable to be installed

Dan

[Cooker] PHP 4.1.0

[Chris Edwards]

It's out!!! *cheers*

-Chris

[Cooker] Sound with Compaq Presario 700CA laptop

[Denis Pelletier]

Hello,

I installed Cooker (Mandrake 8.1 + upgrade to cooker) on my new Compaq
Presario 700CA laptop and the sound does not work. This laptop is based on
the integrated chipset KN133 (AMD Duron). The sound card is detected and
correctly configured by hardDrake (model VT82C686 [Apollo Super
AC97/Audio] with kernel module via82cxxx_audio). But I can't get any sound
with this laptop.

This is probably due to the two sound buttons on the laptop (a + and - to
increase/decrease the volume). I guess that something else has to be
activated but what? Has anyone seen something similar?

Thanks.

Denis
___
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Étudiant au doctorat
sciences économiques, Université de Montréal

Re: [Cooker] Mandrake Out-Mandraked?

[William Kenworthy]

Ok, as well as windoze-lookalike install option or desktop, add a
windoze "skin" to StarOffice and my daughter will stop bothering me to
upgrade (her words!) her machine from Mandrake 8.0 to winME!  or I guess
I will have to spend countless hours mimicking windoze, or just install
winME and forget it!  

Still, the idea of a "very close" emulation of windoze look and feel"
has merit, and may be liked by companies because it dodges the
retraining issues for users.  Legal rights to emulate a propriety OS may
be the biggest snag.

:)

BillK

On Tue, 2001-12-11 at 06:54, Leon Brooks wrote:
> On Tuesday 11 December 2001 00:29, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:
> > They seem to have a KDE desktop with a My Computer and a Network
> > Neighbourhood, hardly much more (the rest pretty much looks like
> > RH stuff).
> 
> Not hard to reproduce in an Mdk distro then? (-:
> 
> Cheers; Leon
> 

[Cooker] System freezes

[Dave Seff]

Just a quick question. I have a machine I use to run cookers and ocasionally 
the system will freeze up solid. Is there a way to get a crash dump, like in 
Solaris, to find out what caused the system to pass out? 

Thanks, 

Dave

Re: [Cooker] drakbackup problem

[Sebastien Dupont]

Yura Gusev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> /usr/sbin/drakbackup
> Can't locate Net/FTP.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /usr/lib/libDrakX
> /usr/lib/perl5/5.6.1/i386-linux /usr/lib/perl5/5.6.1
> /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.1/i386-linux /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.1
> /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl .) at /usr/sbin/drakbackup line 335.
> BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/sbin/drakbackup line 335.

thanks for report but drakbackup are already in devel, so you can use 
it, but please be careful on your data.
the ftp backup is not available for instance, because i have to finish the new gi
before.

regards.
seb


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Re: [Cooker] Mandrake Cooker - kde 2.2.2-15mdk

[Sergio Korlowsky]

On Monday 10 December 2001 01:29 pm, you wrote:
> Hello,
>
> The kde 2.2.2-15mdk RPM is broken.
> After the installation, I can't reboot on Linux.
> The background is red.
>
> Any clue about what's wrong ? ;)
>
> Thanks
> Bertrand Rougier
>
> NB : I've got a Duron 800 - 256Mo RAM - Via Kt133a based motherboard.


If the background is RED you are login as 'root'

Re: [Cooker] drakbackup problem

[Pixel]

Yura Gusev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> /usr/sbin/drakbackup
> Can't locate Net/FTP.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /usr/lib/libDrakX

try installing perl-libnet

[Cooker] MMC mouse bug

[Yura Gusev]

In MMC when you configure your mouse you have a nice option to test wheel
and buttoms. The only problem is then you try to use the wheel you are
selectig mouse option opetions(ie PS/2,USB). You need to make mouse
testion area active when user moves coursor there.

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[Cooker] drakbackup problem

[Yura Gusev]

/usr/sbin/drakbackup
Can't locate Net/FTP.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /usr/lib/libDrakX
/usr/lib/perl5/5.6.1/i386-linux /usr/lib/perl5/5.6.1
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.1/i386-linux /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.1
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl .) at /usr/sbin/drakbackup line 335.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/sbin/drakbackup line 335.

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  O //
 <==-}  ->.--._.-^-(.}
  )'/{( \d
 ./\, ) -._.- >
/  /   `\/' GNU  -=LFS*1482=-
I am not 31337. But I can use the Vi editor... ;-0

Re: [Cooker] gnome 'desktops' after reboot of x-server

[J.A. Magallon]

On 20011208 guran wrote:
>Hi
>
>VERSION:(rsync ftp.sunet.se)
>Mandrake Linux Cooker-i586 20011207 20:50
>/ChangeLog/1.607/Wed Dec  5 23:11:39 2001//
>
>After re-entering into Gnome, my initial setup is not revamped.
>
>I use 8 desktops, filled with programs for consistency in my testing; I
>don't like the gnome way of adding desktops very much - to me it is a
>way of saying - we will make it harder for you to have more than the
>optimum 4 - but when I came back my 8 had changed to 5. In the first
>desktop my Netscape was on top of and fully covering my gnome-console.
>In the fourth my xterm had changed to a diminuitive one of around 48x48.
>My Mozilla had died.
>
>I don't know if this is a Mandrake thing, or if Gnome just don't know
>how to communicate among different programs in an orderly way.
>

Me too. After upgrading control-center, I can't store the background I
set, so next login defaults again to blue.

And cc shows 'feet' for lost icons for the tasklets it starts (bg props,
sound props, etc).

Something is strange with new gnome-cc...

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Re: [Cooker] Mandrake Cooker - kde 2.2.2-15mdk

[SI Reasoning]

I am doing a fresh install of cooker and I got an
error message that kde-base-2.2.2-15mdk.rpm failed.

--- guran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Monday 10 December 2001 8:29 pm, Bertrand Rougier
> wrote:
> >
> > After the installation, I can't reboot on Linux.
> > The background is red.
> 
> Sorry man, but you have most probably booted into
> GUI as root, try a user and 
> su.
> 
> regards
> guran
> -- 
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> version:2001:12:08:18:54
> 


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Re: [Cooker] Mandrake Cooker - kde 2.2.2-15mdk

[guran]

On Monday 10 December 2001 8:29 pm, Bertrand Rougier wrote:
>
> After the installation, I can't reboot on Linux.
> The background is red.

Sorry man, but you have most probably booted into GUI as root, try a user and 
su.

regards
guran
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Re: [Cooker] Mandrake Out-Mandraked?

[Leon Brooks]

On Tuesday 11 December 2001 00:29, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:
> They seem to have a KDE desktop with a My Computer and a Network
> Neighbourhood, hardly much more (the rest pretty much looks like
> RH stuff).

Not hard to reproduce in an Mdk distro then? (-:

Cheers; Leon

Re: [Cooker] Mandrake Out-Mandraked?

[Leon Brooks]

On Monday 10 December 2001 22:54, Fabrice FACORAT wrote:
> le lun 10-12-2001 à 14:01, Leon Brooks a écrit :
>> Not that I want this much Windows integration by default, but it's a nice
>> option to offer, perhaps as a ``make my computer more like Windows but
>> without the crashes and security holes'' check-box during install and/or
>> as a new-user window manager option for those who do:

>> http://www.desktoplinux.com/articles/AT2800785910.html

> I was very impressed by Elx. But you can't have this in standard mdk.

> + Elx is heavily specialised ans based only on KDE. So they customise
> KDE a lot and so break compatibilities with others distro and packages
> you can find on the Net ( for example taking KDE 2.2.2 from kde.org will
> break your Elx KDE ).

Mandrake can probably do *most* of what they have done without breaking KDE.

> As it is heavily specialised, it may not be a good server distro. But it
> aims to be only a desktop distro.

This is a maybe. Worth investigating a little, I think.

> Note : they use somes mandrake tools as harddrake and drakfont.

Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery? (-:

> + many things seems to be prelink ( speed impression ) so normal upgrade
> as to be fogotten. You have to stick with Elx.

AFAIK, prelinking doesn't preclude updating, just means you have to do a 
re-link pass after each upgrade.

> + mdk is too heterogeneous. They have 2 desktop ( gnome/KDe ) so they
> can't customise only one of them. They also support many wm.

Yes, at least 10 of them at last count (KDE, Gnome/Sawfish, Enlightenment, 
WindowMaker, ICEwm, BlackBox, xfce, Fvwm, Fvwm2, mwm, twm, maybe olwm? 
However, the specialisations need only be applied to KDE, and preferably kept 
separate so you can log in with KDE-standard or KDE-windowsified.

> + mdk is too polyvalent/compatible/open : desktop, server, firewall. So
> they can't customise too much their scripts/prog.

Polyvalent, true, and I like that a lot. However, to labour a point, much of 
the customisation discussed could be layered over this.

Cheers; Leon

Re: [Cooker] php-4.0.6 and DOM ?

[Oden Eriksson]

On Mondayen den 10 December 2001 22.32, Oden Eriksson wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm trying to make a new php package including "DOM", but it fails badly...
> Why could this be?
>
> ./configure --with-dom
>
> [snip]
>
> checking for DOM support... yes
> checking for DOM in default path... not found
> configure: error: Please reinstall the libxml >= 2.2.7 distribution
>
> rpm -qa|grep xml
> libxml2-devel-2.4.11-1mdk
> libxml-1.8.16-1mdk
> libxml2-2.4.11-1mdk
> libxml-devel-1.8.16-1mdk

Never mind, I think I found the error myself. The attached patch seems to 
takes care of this problem, I don't know if it breaks something else though...

-- 
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| Oden Eriksson, Deserve-IT Networks, Jokkmokk, Sweden.
| Mandrake Linux release 8.2 (Cooker) for i586
| Current uptime with kernel 2.4.16-6mdksmp: 19 hours 56 minutes
| cpu0 @ 814.28 bm, fan 4470 rpm, temp +29°C
| cpu1 @ 815.92 bm, fan 4411 rpm, temp +29.0°C


--- libxml2.spec	Mon Nov 26 17:10:58 2001
+++ libxml2.spec.oden	Mon Dec 10 23:27:06 2001
@@ -5,7 +5,7 @@
 Summary: The libXML library
 Name:		libxml2 
 Version:	2.4.11
-Release:	1mdk
+Release:	2mdk
 License:	LGPL
 Group: 		System/Libraries
 BuildRoot:	%_tmppath/%name-%version-%release-root
@@ -43,12 +43,14 @@
 %make
 
 %install
-rm -rf $RPM_BUILD_ROOT
+rm -rf %{buildroot}
 
 %makeinstall 
 
+ln -s libxml2/libxml  %{buildroot}%{_includedir}/libxml
+
 %clean
-rm -rf $RPM_BUILD_ROOT
+rm -rf %{buildroot}
 
 %post -p /sbin/ldconfig
 
@@ -73,6 +75,9 @@
 %{_datadir}/aclocal/*
 
 %changelog
+* Mon Dec 10 2001 Oden Eriksson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 2.4.11-2mdk
+- made a softlink in %%{_includedir}
+
 * Mon Nov 26 2001 Frederic Crozat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 2.4.11-1mdk
 - Release 2.4.11
 - Move manpage to devel package

[Cooker] php-4.0.6 and DOM ?

[Oden Eriksson]

Hi,

I'm trying to make a new php package including "DOM", but it fails badly... 
Why could this be?

./configure --with-dom

[snip]

checking for DOM support... yes
checking for DOM in default path... not found
configure: error: Please reinstall the libxml >= 2.2.7 distribution

rpm -qa|grep xml
libxml2-devel-2.4.11-1mdk
libxml-1.8.16-1mdk
libxml2-2.4.11-1mdk
libxml-devel-1.8.16-1mdk


-- 
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| Oden Eriksson, Deserve-IT Networks, Jokkmokk, Sweden.
| Mandrake Linux release 8.2 (Cooker) for i586
| Current uptime with kernel 2.4.16-6mdksmp: 18 hours 57 minutes
| cpu0 @ 814.28 bm, fan 4470 rpm, temp +32°C
| cpu1 @ 815.92 bm, fan 4383 rpm, temp +31.5°C

Re: [Cooker] extracting rpm GROUPS ?

[Oden Eriksson]

On Mondayen den 10 December 2001 18.44, Chmouel Boudjnah wrote:
> Oden Eriksson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Ha ha ha ha ha ha! Tuché !
> >
> > No really, I'm serious, there is, or art least was a switch to rpm to do
> > this.
>
> /usr/share/doc/rpm-4.0.3/GROUPS

Ha ha ha ha ha!!!, I didn't even thought of looking in there, I was convinced 
that it was a switch... 10 points to you Chmouel.

-- 
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| Oden Eriksson, Deserve-IT Networks, Jokkmokk, Sweden.
| Mandrake Linux release 8.2 (Cooker) for i586
| Current uptime with kernel 2.4.16-6mdksmp: 15 hours 22 minutes
| cpu0 @ 814.28 bm, fan 4530 rpm, temp +29°C
| cpu1 @ 815.92 bm, fan 4411 rpm, temp +29.0°C

Re: [Cooker] net install problems with Dell Inspiron I8000 and 3c575 (cooker and 8.1)

[Guillaume Cottenceau]

SI Reasoning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> when do you anticipate that this driver will be in the
> cooker images?

It should be, currently.


-- 
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Re: [Cooker] net install problems with Dell Inspiron I8000 and 3c575 (cooker and 8.1)

[SI Reasoning]

when do you anticipate that this driver will be in the
cooker images?
--- Guillaume Cottenceau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> SI Reasoning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > I tried doing a pcmcia net install with the Dell
> > Inspiron I8000 using the pcmcia.img for both
> cooker
> > (Dec 4) and 8.1. The cooker did not have a driver
> for
> > the 3c575 and 8.1 locked up the laptop. I have
> done
> 
> Could you try to launch the install with this floppy
> please:
> 
> http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/network.img
> 
> Since your PCMCIA network card is now used by a PCI
> module, I
> added PCMCIA code and basic modules in
> `network.img', it should
> be ok to do network installs from this now.
> 
> If it's fine with you (99% of chance), next DrakX
> upload should
> contain the fix.
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Guillaume Cottenceau -
> http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/
> 

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[Cooker] Re: Mandrake Cooker - kde 2.2.2-15mdk

[Bertrand Rougier]

kdebase to be accurate

- Original Message - 
From: Bertrand Rougier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 8:29 PM
Subject: Mandrake Cooker - kde 2.2.2-15mdk


> Hello,
> 
> The kde 2.2.2-15mdk RPM is broken.
> After the installation, I can't reboot on Linux.
> The background is red.
> 
> Any clue about what's wrong ? ;)
> 
> Thanks
> Bertrand Rougier
> 
> NB : I've got a Duron 800 - 256Mo RAM - Via Kt133a based motherboard.
> 

[Cooker] Mandrake Cooker - kde 2.2.2-15mdk

[Bertrand Rougier]

Hello,

The kde 2.2.2-15mdk RPM is broken.
After the installation, I can't reboot on Linux.
The background is red.

Any clue about what's wrong ? ;)

Thanks
Bertrand Rougier

NB : I've got a Duron 800 - 256Mo RAM - Via Kt133a based motherboard.

[Cooker] [RPM] DivXripper-0.1.3-1mdk

[Guillaume Rousse]

Resistance is futile, you will be packaged

---
Name: DivXripper   Relocations: (not relocateable)
Version : 0.1.3 Vendor: Penguin Liberation Front
Release : 1mdk  Build Date: Mon Dec 10 19:23:35 2001
Install date: (not installed)   Build Host: silbermann.snv.jussieu.fr
Group   : Video Source RPM: (none)
Size: 151442   License: GPL
Packager: Guillaume Rousse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
URL : http://he11storm.net/DivXripper
Summary : Convert MPEG videos to DivX ;-) AVI videos
Description :
DivXRipper is a GPLed program to convert files from MPEG to AVI using the
DivX ;-) Codec under the Linux Operating System. It also has a very simple
player, but right now it sucks a lot !!

---

 Mon Dec 10 2001 Götz Waschk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 0.1.3-1mdk

- initial package

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Re: [Cooker] raw device & devfs

[Guillaume Rousse]

Ainsi parlait Borsenkow Andrej :
> O.K., here is a patch that adds support for devfs to raw.c. It
> precreates /dev/raw/raw* nodes for all available minors; I do not
> particularly like it, but raw command needs existing devices to get
> minor number from; also, strictly speaking, all of them do exist as soon
> as driver is loaded.
>
> Is it acceptable from devfs point of view? It seems to work here.
>
> Patch is against 2.4.16-4mdk
>
> Guillaume, could you test it?
As soon as i will be able to compile a kernel :-)
-- 
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GPG key http://lis.snv.jussieu.fr/~rousse/gpgkey.html

Re: [Cooker] extracting rpm GROUPS ?

[Chmouel Boudjnah]

Oden Eriksson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> 
> Ha ha ha ha ha ha! Tuché !
> 
> No really, I'm serious, there is, or art least was a switch to rpm to do this.

/usr/share/doc/rpm-4.0.3/GROUPS

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[Cooker] RPM package request, IPMENU

[bradw]

Anyone here willing package this and send it up to contrib?

ipmenu can be found at http://users.pandora.be/stes/ipmenu.html


-- 
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Ford Prefect: "You ask a glass of water."
- Douglas Noel Adams, 1952 - 2001
- DNA, so long and thanks for all the books

Re: [Cooker] Mandrake Out-Mandraked?

[guran]

On Monday 10 December 2001 6:04 pm, George Mitchell wrote:

What a beatiful picture you paints, thanks for showing it.

regards
guran
>
> I for one am pleased to see these new distro startups appearing.  The
> fact is, the Windows market is huge, and contrary to what some believe,
> there is room for a lot of players in that market.  So they will pick up
> users whose needs they are targeting and if they pick up enough, they
> will be around for awhile.  The genius of free software is that even if
> they are not successful, there really good ideas and code will be rolled
> back into the free software codebase and other distros, including
> Mandrake will be free to pick up and assimilate them.  There are a lot
> of critics out there who spout the FUD that there are 'too many'
> different distros and too much 'duplicated' effort, etc.  But free
> software thrives on diversity.  I am glad to see anybody with an idea or
> concept join the party.  Its their concept and their sweat.  In the end
> the whole community (including Mandrake) benefits.  While all distros
> need marketshare to survive, the idea that survival requires cutting off
> someone else's air supply is a long way off, and hopefully will never come.

-- 
Mandrake Linux 8.2 Cooker kernel-2.4.16.6mdk-1-1mdk version:2001:12:08:18:54

Re: [Cooker] Mandrake Out-Mandraked?

[Fabrice FACORAT]

le lun 10-12-2001 à 17:29, Guillaume Cottenceau a écrit :
> Leon Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > Not that I want this much Windows integration by default, but it's a nice 
> > option to offer, perhaps as a ``make my computer more like Windows but 
> > without the crashes and security holes'' check-box during install and/or as a 
> > new-user window manager option for those who do:
> > 
> > http://www.desktoplinux.com/articles/AT2800785910.html
> 
> They seem to have a KDE desktop with a My Computer and a Network
> Neighbourhood, hardly much more (the rest pretty much looks like
> RH stuff).

they use harddrake and you can share a rep or a partition from Konqueror

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Re: [Cooker] urpmi --auto-select does not install kernel/kerlenl-source any more (and on new kernel naming in general)

[François Pons]

Stefan van der Eijk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> >May we reconsider it once more?
> >
> Do you suggest a vote?

FYI, this is normal on a the current code (selection by obsoletes, files, or
name).

I have to add specific code to try to install kernel (and kernel-source also, or
problably any other package with specific name that is chosen to make upgrade
like install).

François.

Re: [Cooker] Mandrake Out-Mandraked?

[George Mitchell]

Leon Brooks wrote:

>Not that I want this much Windows integration by default, but it's a nice 
>option to offer, perhaps as a ``make my computer more like Windows but 
>without the crashes and security holes'' check-box during install and/or as a 
>new-user window manager option for those who do:
>
>http://www.desktoplinux.com/articles/AT2800785910.html
>
>Cheers; Leon
>
>
I for one am pleased to see these new distro startups appearing.  The 
fact is, the Windows market is huge, and contrary to what some believe, 
there is room for a lot of players in that market.  So they will pick up 
users whose needs they are targeting and if they pick up enough, they 
will be around for awhile.  The genius of free software is that even if 
they are not successful, there really good ideas and code will be rolled 
back into the free software codebase and other distros, including 
Mandrake will be free to pick up and assimilate them.  There are a lot 
of critics out there who spout the FUD that there are 'too many' 
different distros and too much 'duplicated' effort, etc.  But free 
software thrives on diversity.  I am glad to see anybody with an idea or 
concept join the party.  Its their concept and their sweat.  In the end 
the whole community (including Mandrake) benefits.  While all distros 
need marketshare to survive, the idea that survival requires cutting off 
someone else's air supply is a long way off, and hopefully will never come.

Re: [Cooker] Drakfont

[George Mitchell]

Yura Gusev wrote:

>Hi, i have 1 small sugestion. When you try to delete some fonts you can
>see only the file name, ans since font can have different name it is
>sometimes difficult to guess which one to delete. So can you display
>filename and font name at the same time?
>
I would strongly second this suggestion.  If a font is causing a 
problem, it can be hard to identify it to remove it.  This would be a 
nice enhancement.

Re: [Cooker] Drakfont

[Sylvain OBEGI]

le lun 10-12-2001 à 17:43, George Mitchell a écrit :
> Yura Gusev wrote:
> 
> >Hi, i have 1 small sugestion. When you try to delete some fonts you can
> >see only the file name, ans since font can have different name it is
> >sometimes difficult to guess which one to delete. So can you display
> >filename and font name at the same time?
> >
> I would strongly second this suggestion.  If a font is causing a 
> problem, it can be hard to identify it to remove it.  This would be a 
> nice enhancement.
> 

I tried some time again to delete one font, but there was no file of
that name, and no way to find the file corresponding to this font..
So, I really think too this would be a cool feature.
 
-- 

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ICQ : 661913 

Re: [Cooker] /etc/motd(again)

[George Mitchell]

Nguyen H.Vu wrote:

>Hi all,
>
>This is /etc/motd of FreeBSD. I think that this is a very good idea. The
>purpose of this file is very simple: Pop up a security warning when user login
>in console mode.
>
Actually KDE already issues a warning to anyone loging in as root.  And 
those who know enough to use the CLI should already be aware of root 
issues.  The very long standing purpose of /etc/motd is to serve as a 
local broadcast tool.  I think it should probably remain that even 
though the FreeBSD people apparently think otherwise.

>
>
>Another file LM should improve is /etc/issue and /etc/issue.net.
>Instead of putting LM logo, kernel version, LM version, uptime etc...
>Should we put a warning if a cracker try to log in our box?
>

This is an intriguing idea.  In fact we used to use /etc/issue on Unix 
years ago for just that purpose.  The problems are 1) alas, that was not 
the design intent of /etc/issue, we just used it that way on an 
emergency basis.  The current use serves the original intent.  2) The 
need has been largely supplanted by very good and effective firewall and 
security monitoring technology. And its all available as free software. 
 Use it!  3) The nature of cracking itself has changed to some degree. 
 Today's crackers, operating internationally and largely through 
compromised boxes operate without a lot of fear.  So your challenge 
would either be a bluff which could actually invite the hacker in to see 
what you are hiding, or it would be a tipoff to the hacker that he needs 
to avoid the booby traps. Desktop machines should be protected by a 
fulltime stealthing firewall.   Servers should be protected by real time 
administration and heavy duty security monitoring.  The fact of the 
matter is that if a hacker gets that far (/etc/issue) on your machine, 
you are probably already dead meat unless you are closely monitoring 
your logs.  And if you are closely monitoring your logs, a warning 
message is unnecessary.  But you are the admin of your own box and Linux 
is not Windows.  You are free to change /etc/issue and /etc/issue.net to 
anything you think appropriate and Mandrake is not going to try to sue 
you for it.  As one who has dealt with Unix security issues in a 
corportate setting for many years, those are my opinions.

>
>
>-begin of /etc/motd in FreeBSD
>
>FreeBSD ?.?.?  (UNKNOWN)
>
>Welcome to FreeBSD!
>
>Before seeking technical support, please use the following resources:
>
>o  Security advisories and updated errata information for all releases are
>   at http://www.FreeBSD.org/releases/ - always consult the ERRATA section
>   for your release first as it's updated frequently.
>
>o  The Handbook and FAQ documents are at http://www.FreeBSD.org/ and,
>   along with the mailing lists, can be searched by going to
>   http://www.FreeBSD.org/search/  If the doc distribution has
>   been installed, they're also available formatted in /usr/share/doc.
>
>If you still have a question or problem, please take the output of
>`uname -a',  along with any relevant error messages, and email it
>as a question to the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list.  If you are
>unfamiliar with FreeBSD's directory layout, please refer to the hier(7)
>man page. If you are not familiar with man pages, type `man man'.
>You may also use `/stand/sysinstall' to re-enter the installation and
>configuration utility.  Edit /etc/motd to change this login announcement.
>
>--- End of /etc/motd in FreeBsd ---
>
>
>=
>Takeshi's small space
>http://site.TechViet.com/Vu.Hung/
>Join KDE-i18n-Vi?
>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/KDE-i18n-VN
>
>__
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>Send your FREE holiday greetings online!
>http://greetings.yahoo.com
>
>

Re: [Cooker] Disque dur externe PCMCIA ARCHOS

[Guillaume Cottenceau]

Thibault PARIS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Je suis confronte au probleme suivant:

1- this is an english-speaking Mailing-List

2- this is a development Mailing-List, not a support one


Please use "[EMAIL PROTECTED]", it's a support list in
french language.


-- 
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Re: [Cooker] Mandrake Out-Mandraked?

[Guillaume Cottenceau]

Leon Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Not that I want this much Windows integration by default, but it's a nice 
> option to offer, perhaps as a ``make my computer more like Windows but 
> without the crashes and security holes'' check-box during install and/or as a 
> new-user window manager option for those who do:
> 
> http://www.desktoplinux.com/articles/AT2800785910.html

They seem to have a KDE desktop with a My Computer and a Network
Neighbourhood, hardly much more (the rest pretty much looks like
RH stuff).


And they are suckers:

"ELX is currently under closed group testing and is available to
only test users for the time being. This allows us to get quality
test reports and feedback from our test users.This would go till
15th of December 2001, after which we will make it downloadable
for all of you and also start shipping CDs."



-- 
Guillaume Cottenceau - http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/

[Cooker] Disque dur externe PCMCIA ARCHOS

[Thibault PARIS]

Je suis confronte au probleme suivant:

OS : Linux Mandrake 8.0.

Materiel posant probleme : Disque dur externe PCMCIA ARCHOS.

Probleme : ce disque externe fonctionne correctement, acces possible depuis 
/mnt/disk mais pas de point de montage dans /etc/fstab.
Un "mount" ne revele pas sa presence sur le systeme.

Resultat : le volume de l'espace de fichier du disque externe est inclut a la 
partition "/".

Consequence : un "df" informe que "/" est sature car le disque est effectivement 
ajoute au systeme de fichier mais n'est pas considere comme un volume 
independant.

Idee : pouvoir ajouter un point de montage dans /etc/fstab en declarant une 
nouvelle entree au format "pcmcia fs"

Re: [Cooker] XP <-> Mdk in multimedia

[guran]

On Monday 10 December 2001 3:19 pm, Fabrice FACORAT wrote:

I really envy you your knowledges, but I am an old guy and I don't think that 
I have the stamina to aquire that broad and deep knowledge. So my letter was 
more of the style, put a new log in the fire, and see if it takes on. What I 
see is a 'kernel' that can do more and more things, but as all these things 
are added to the 'motor' it gets bloated (like emacs, it is a little OS in 
its own).

Contrary to this a stripped down 'newbie Mdk' could still be a sportcar with 
only one of everything. As an old teacher I know that if you show most pupils 
5 different ways to solv a problem, the first example might be a nightmare. 
If you show only one solution, then the example is a piece of cake, or just a 
copy. According to, I think Albert E, most people don't think creatively, as 
he did, they just extrapolate or interpolate from someone else's thinking or 
model. Thus the basic needs might be mapped as in your three examples.

Keep thinking along your lines, they are good!

regards
guran


> So there will have 3 main lines of products :
>   +standard ( aka Standard ): polyvalent, average everywhere ( desktop,
> games, server, firewall ), many be ( i.e bleding edge packages ).
>   +server/enterprise ( aka Pro Suite ): fully test, QA. No bleding edge
> for packages/features unless there is at least one month of heavy
> stress.
>   +gaming/desktop ( aka powerpack/gaing edition ) : bleding edge
> apps/features, preempt kernel, Winex, StarOffice 6.0 or Hancom Office (
> http://www.hancom.com/en/product_service/lhr4.html ).
>
> Besides this you can have some very specialise distro ( SNF, tiny server
> i.e only provides servers and servers tools with a minimal X/wm for
> graphical conf if needed, the kind of server you put in a cupborad ).

-- 
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Re: [Cooker] kernel-source does not provide kernel-source (and inst.list)

[Charles A Edwards]

On Mon, 10 Dec 2001 18:07:15 +0300
Borsenkow Andrej <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 
> It does not matter. What matters is that kernel-source-our-weird-name
> does not Require: kernel-headers any more (it never needed it actually).
 
> -andrej
> 
 

Thanks, for the clarification.

I can at times be somewhat dense.


   Charles 

Re: [Cooker] kernel-source does not provide kernel-source (and inst.list)

[Chmouel Boudjnah]

Charles A Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I Was aware of that, but I also noted that kernel-headers-2.4.16-16mdk
> still exists as a seperate pkg.

yes it is, but notica bene that :

kernel-headers need_to_be with_the_one_compiled_with_glibc

that the whole point of the split.

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RE: [Cooker] kernel-source does not provide kernel-source (and inst.list)

[Borsenkow Andrej]

 
> I Was aware of that, but I also noted that kernel-headers-2.4.16-16mdk
> still exists as a seperate pkg.
> 

It does not matter. What matters is that kernel-source-our-weird-name
does not Require: kernel-headers any more (it never needed it actually).
Thus you can have as many kernel-sources as you wish (recently I had
three or four installed) without resulting conflicts in kernel-headers.

-andrej

Re: [Cooker] Mandrake Out-Mandraked?

[Fabrice FACORAT]

le lun 10-12-2001 à 14:01, Leon Brooks a écrit :
> Not that I want this much Windows integration by default, but it's a nice 
> option to offer, perhaps as a ``make my computer more like Windows but 
> without the crashes and security holes'' check-box during install and/or as a 
> new-user window manager option for those who do:
> 
> http://www.desktoplinux.com/articles/AT2800785910.html

I was very impressed by Elx. But you can't have this in standard mdk.
why ?
+ Elx is heavily specialised ans based only on KDE. So they customise
KDE a lot and so break compatibilities with others distro and packages
you can find on the Net ( for example taking KDE 2.2.2 from kde.org will
break your Elx KDE ).
As it is heavily specialised, it may not be a good server distro. But it
aims to be only a desktop distro.
Note : they use somes mandrake tools as harddrake and drakfont.
+ many things seems to be prelink ( speed impression ) so normal upgrade
as to be fogotten. You have to stick with Elx.
+ mdk is too heterogeneous. They have 2 desktop ( gnome/KDe ) so they
can't customise only one of them. They  also support many wm. That's why
mdk config tools use they own librairies ( libgtk+mdk0 ) and are outside
of gnome or KDE config tools. For example to do SMB share in mdk you use
diskdrake, but you can't do it though konqueror/nautilus/sfm/gmc/
+ mdk is too polyvalent/compatible/open : desktop, server, firewall. So
they can't customise too much their scripts/prog.
 
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Re: [Cooker] kernel-source does not provide kernel-source (and inst.list)

[Charles A Edwards]

On Mon, 10 Dec 2001 17:05:29 +0300
Borsenkow Andrej <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> > For it to serve any purpose if we can now install multiple
> kernel-sources
> > do we not also need to be able to install multiple kernel-headers.
> > 
> 
> May I ask you to review cooker archives for the past three weeks?
> 
> rpm -q --changelog glibc
> 
> * Wed Nov 21 2001 Chmouel Boudjnah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 2.2.4-12mdk
> 
> - Move the kernel-headers package here.
> - Big specs changes to compile with the kernel-headers.
> 
> Kernel-headers are no more tied to particular kernel version or updated
> with it.
> 

 
I Was aware of that, but I also noted that kernel-headers-2.4.16-16mdk
still exists as a seperate pkg.

  
   Charles
 

Re: [Cooker] drakconf dups

[Yves Duret]

Yura Gusev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> drakconf-0.70-14mdk
> rpm -ql drakconf | grep etc
> 
> /etc/pam.d/DrakConf
> /etc/pam.d/drakconf
> /etc/security/console.apps/DrakConf
> /etc/security/console.apps/drakconf

yes that because in 8.0 MandrakeControlCenter was called DrakConf and in 8.1
we decided to homogenize all the name of our tools (without upper case
letters) thus DrakCOnf was kept for compatibility reasons..

-- 
Yves Duret
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
piouk toujours et meme apres !

Re: [Cooker] /etc/motd(again)

[Oden Eriksson]

On Mondayen den 10 December 2001 06.35, Nguyen H.Vu wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> This is /etc/motd of FreeBSD. I think that this is a very good idea. The
> purpose of this file is very simple: Pop up a security warning when user
> login in console mode.
>
> Another file LM should improve is /etc/issue and /etc/issue.net.
> Instead of putting LM logo, kernel version, LM version, uptime etc...
> Should we put a warning if a cracker try to log in our box?

No thanks, let's just keep it clean. No need to clutter it up more than it is.

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Re: [Cooker] XP <-> Mdk in multimedia

[Fabrice FACORAT]

le lun 10-12-2001 à 00:40, guran a écrit :


> But there seem to be such a product, on LWN I read about an Elx distribution. 
> My concerns was about the difficulty to make choices, when you feel unsecure, 
> that is to say I don't think the new user wants to master Unix he/she wants 
> to achieve certain personal goals.

I've read the review of Elx and really : impressive !
They use some fo the mandrake tools ( drakfont and harddrake at least ).
It's a heavily integrated environment.
The possibility to share folder by right clicking, the fact that lisa
and reslisa are load at startup with some good predefined value ( so
just click on Neighborhood to see your LAN ), the task manager ( too muh
win like AFAIK ), the same hierarchical menu organisation ( inspired
from mdk from debian ).
It's really windows like, but the point after is about compatibility and
now we got a problem :

+ mdk doesn't want to have a desktop of choice : it's a good and a bad
thing.
a good thing as you have choice and the distro is so polyvalent.
a bad thing as they can't work on integration. For example to share
things they use diskdrake as they can't do it in for both KDE/Gnome and
also others wm.

+ mdk want to stay compatible with RH. Even if for example in KDE we
have some blabla-mdk rep that may break compatibility or force to adapt,
they use only what provide KDE. They don't customise it. The same for
Gnome or others wm. So again they have to do everything outside throught
the MCC. But the problem is that it is not integrated ! See example
above concerning SMB share.
In fact the samba config should be modified and be more modular. why ?
put all shares in a directory and one file per share. remove/add a share
is easiest and you don't have to modify the maybe custom config file
with some comment in the globals part and other parts. We may think
about a db that list shares, options and a unique ID for each share. So
if you do a script in gnome/KDE/whateveryouwant you just have to use the
ID to manage them.
Users doesn't like that when they customise something but call at a time
the GUI to add something this GUI remove their comments and
customisations.

So ( sorry for the digression ) we can pont out  "problem" in Linux :
heterogeneous environment.
So a real linux desktop OS must make choice ( wm, prog, ... ) and limit
upgrade possibilities ( for exmple everything in prelink to improve
reactivity ).
If an OS try to do several things in the meantime it will never be good
in all place ( maybe never good at all ).
For example, what can we ask from and desktop OS ?

+ speed/reactivity : the problem is that Linux is slw when we
arrive to the GUI/wm problem. If you use KDE/Gnome ( i.e desktop ) it's
slow. reactivity of Linux/The GUI/XFree is poor ( only a premmpt kernel
may improve this to hide theses latencies ).
So you need prelinked binaries, good drivers, lightweight XFree ( or
optimise ) and  preempt kernel.
You may want to read this thread :
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=fr&threadm=g0ktu9.a09.ln%40localhost.localdomain&rnum=1&prev=/groups%3Fq%3DS%26hl%3Dfr%26group%3Dalt.os.linux.mandrake%26rnum%3D1%26selm%3Dg0ktu9.a09.ln%2540localhost.localdomain

It's a little bit ironic to recommend using light wm as
WM/blackbox/"E"/fvwm2 when the personn say that his system works well
under XP ! can you believe it ? Now most of the time Linux users says :
buy RAM it's cheap ( to use KDE/Gnome ) or use a lightweight wm ! When I
think about the fact that before Linux users used to say that Win is
bloat and that it's anormal to have to buy so many RAM or a new proc to
use it ! Now for equals features windows is lighter ! Ok we have choice
( other wm, terminal ) but this means that there is a drift in Linux
world.

+ features/multimedia capabilities :
Linux is bad concerning multimedia ( sound card support/features,
latency, available progs ), it's a reality. 2.6 kernel maybe will
improve this ( alsa inclusion, preempt patch ( Robert Love way :
http://kt.zork.net/kernel-traffic/kt20011029_139.html#2 ) and tweaking
of the kernel ( Linus way ) ). Now efforts need to be done in user
space. 
For example users must have the ability to easily find a sound
recorder/editor ( grecord is not so good ) or a movie basic editor (
broadcast is dead and is a little bit complex ), or a multimedia player.
Concerning multimedia player there is severals pbs :
+ closed format that decrease ease of support
+ licensing problem. For example mplayer dev says that it's illegal to
provide binaries of mplayer ! But it's the best multimedia player
available at this time ! There's xine but no dvd decryption and not all
codecs are supported. Can we read divx with the mdk GPL version out of
the box ? no. What's the licence of ffmpeg ? it support Divx and many
format.

+ games : for little games, Linux is the best ... but for the others
games ? big problem. Ok i know, console are the best for games, but many
people still use PC + Woindows fo

Re: [Cooker] Drakfont problem

[Sebastien Dupont]

George Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I recently installed some fonts with drakfont.  I discovered that drakfont
> chokes when selecting 'Add fonts' if the font path specified includes a
> directory name that has a space in it.  Example: "/home/user/My Fonts/ttfonts".
> Changing this to "/home/user/My_Fonts/ttfonts solves the problem".

all these problems are fixed in the new drakfont.
on new drakxtools package. (today on cooker)
/usr/sbin/drakfont

don't forget to remove the old before.
(drakfont.*.rpm )

regards.
seb

-- 
DUPONT Sebastien  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
EPITA Paris 2003  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Cooker] kernel-source does not provide kernel-source (and inst.list)

[François Pons]

Borsenkow Andrej <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I do not mean that they are installed in the same directory (no more the
> case). I mean urpmi does rpm -U that removes old version.

Yes, I have checked directory structure, kernel source will no longer be
automatically selected (probably) by --auto-select now, unless of other requires
on it.

It's not a problem, as new naming will make install instead of upgrade, It is
cleaner to update inst.list for that (same) behaviour.

François.

RE: [Cooker] kernel-source does not provide kernel-source (and inst.list)

[Borsenkow Andrej]

> For it to serve any purpose if we can now install multiple
kernel-sources
> do we not also need to be able to install multiple kernel-headers.
> 

May I ask you to review cooker archives for the past three weeks?

rpm -q --changelog glibc

* Wed Nov 21 2001 Chmouel Boudjnah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
2.2.4-12mdk

- Move the kernel-headers package here.
- Big specs changes to compile with the kernel-headers.

Kernel-headers are no more tied to particular kernel version or updated
with it.

-andrej

Re: [Cooker] evolution 1.0

[Michael Hartman]

I was able to finally get evolution 1.0 installed by installing

bonobo-1.0.17-1mdk.i586.rpm
bonobo-conf-0.14-2mdk.i586.rpm
libgal18-0.18.1-1mdk.i586.rpm
libgtkhtml20-1.0.0-1mdk.i586.rpm
liboaf0-0.6.7-2mdk.i586.rpm
oaf-0.6.7-2mdk.i586.rpm

with the --nodeps flag

Then, I installed 

evolution-1.0-1mdk.i586.rpm
evolution-pilot-1.0-1mdk.i586.rpm

with the --nodeps flag also. 

Thanks to Mark Finlay for showing me the light. 


Michael 






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Re: [Cooker] kernel-source does not provide kernel-source (and inst.list)

[Charles A Edwards]

On Mon, 10 Dec 2001 16:04:27 +0300
Borsenkow Andrej <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > > borsenkow> and, please, add kernel-source to /etc/urpmi/inst.list
> > >
> > > fpons?
> > 
> > I can add it, but this will no more be upgradable (unable to be
> selected,
> > except
> > by explicit require on version and release ?).
> > 
> 
> With new scheme it is not upgradeable anyway - you always have a unique
> RPM name. Incidentally, it is the same with kernel.
> 
> Well, many people requested the ability to have multiple kernel-sources
> installed. I just do not like when urpmi --auto-select overwrites
> kernel-source.
> 
  

For it to serve any purpose if we can now install multiple kernel-sources
do we not also need to be able to install multiple kernel-headers.


   Charles

RE: [Cooker] kernel-source does not provide kernel-source (and inst.list)

[Borsenkow Andrej]

> 
> Borsenkow Andrej <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > Well, many people requested the ability to have multiple
kernel-sources
> > installed. I just do not like when urpmi --auto-select overwrites
> > kernel-source.
> 
> People are making the specs we use...
> 

I do not mean that they are installed in the same directory (no more the
case). I mean urpmi does rpm -U that removes old version.

[Cooker] Typo in `/etc/rc.d/init.d/cups' (cups-1.1.10-13mdk)

[Bob Slawson]

The second '"' in line 55 of `/etc/rc.d/init.d/cups' needs an escape 
char, "\".  Otherwise, there is a syntax error which prevents cupsd from 
starting up.

[root@wabakimi Cooker]# rm /etc/rc.d/init.d/cups
rm: remove `/etc/rc.d/init.d/cups'? y
[root@wabakimi Cooker]# cd RPMS
[root@wabakimi RPMS]# rpm -Uvh cups-1.1.10-13mdk.i586.rpm --force
Preparing...### 
[100%]
1:cups   ### 
[100%]
[root@wabakimi RPMS]# diff /etc/rc.d/init.d/cups /etc/rc.d/init.d/cups-fixed
55c55
<   gprintf "Loopback device (\\n"lo\", 127.0.0.1) needed by CUPS, 
starting it ..."
^^^
---
 >  gprintf "Loopback device (\\n\"lo\", 127.0.0.1) needed by CUPS, 
starting it ..."

BobS

Re: Anybody's gonna fix it? Re: [Cooker] KDE sets GTK_RC_FILES and horribly breaks Gnome/Gtk i18n!

[Guillaume Cottenceau]

Borsenkow Andrej <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I just do not want to mail to all possible addresses in mdk - I hoped,
> cooker-i18n is *the* place to report i18n problems. Has it changed?

It has not changed, but very few mandrake developers post on this
ML, hardly more than pablo and tvignaud.


-- 
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Re: [Cooker] kernel-source does not provide kernel-source (and inst.list)

[François Pons]

Borsenkow Andrej <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Well, many people requested the ability to have multiple kernel-sources
> installed. I just do not like when urpmi --auto-select overwrites
> kernel-source.

People are making the specs we use...

François.

Re: [Cooker] ext3 not found in stage1.log

[guran]

On Monday 10 December 2001 1:54 pm, Pixel wrote:
>
> maybe? hd installs are hard to test :-/

OK - I buy that, I won't report more on that as long as it is stable.
guran
-- 
Mandrake Linux 8.2 Cooker kernel-2.4.16.6mdk-1-1mdk version:2001:12:08:18:54

RE: Anybody's gonna fix it? Re: [Cooker] KDE sets GTK_RC_FILES and horribly breaks Gnome/Gtk i18n!

[Borsenkow Andrej]

> 
> > I enjoy being ignored ...
> 
> I think that mandrake kde maintainers team can be best reached at
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 

This was posted to the cooker-i18n where it belongs (I crossposted it
because I first reported it here) and it is most likely not KDE problem.

I just do not want to mail to all possible addresses in mdk - I hoped,
cooker-i18n is *the* place to report i18n problems. Has it changed?


-andrej

Re: [Cooker] urpmi --auto-select does not install kernel/kerlenl-source any more (and on new kernel naming in general)

[Stefan van der Eijk]

>
>
>With new and shiny kernel naming urpmi --auto-select happily skips
>kernel and kernel-source.
>
>Good, it is minor annoyance, but it adds to the list of DISadvantages of
>new scheme.
>
>Actually, I was about compile a comparison list of new and old naming
>(but have no time today). So far there is *no* single point where new
>scheme proves better than old. At the best it is not worse in the sense
>it has the same features.
>
Yes there is... When updating the kernel package you don't need to 
change the version on the changelog tag. :-)

>May we reconsider it once more?
>
Do you suggest a vote?

Stefan

[Cooker] urpmi --auto-select does not install kernel/kerlenl-source any more (and on new kernel naming in general)

[Borsenkow Andrej]

With new and shiny kernel naming urpmi --auto-select happily skips
kernel and kernel-source.

Good, it is minor annoyance, but it adds to the list of DISadvantages of
new scheme.

Actually, I was about compile a comparison list of new and old naming
(but have no time today). So far there is *no* single point where new
scheme proves better than old. At the best it is not worse in the sense
it has the same features.

May we reconsider it once more?

-andrej

Re: Anybody's gonna fix it? Re: [Cooker] KDE sets GTK_RC_FILES and horribly breaks Gnome/Gtk i18n!

[Guillaume Cottenceau]

Borsenkow Andrej <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I enjoy being ignored ...

I think that mandrake kde maintainers team can be best reached at
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

> "Doctor, I am always ignored by everybody"
> "Next one, please"
> 
> On ÷ÔÒ, 2001-11-20 at 13:26, Borsenkow Andrej wrote:
> > I recently reported that after some update Gnome apps run from within
> > KDE did not use proper font. The reason turned out to be that:
> > 
> > KDE style manager (libkcm_style.so) sets GTK_RC_FILES to
> > /etc/gtk/gtkrc:~/.gtkrc. It obviously results in ignoring
> > language-specific rc files in /etc/gtk/*.$LANG nad thus causing al the
> > problems. Copying /etc/grk/gtkrc-1.2.ru into ~/.gtkrc at least enabled
> > me to use Evolution again :-)
> > 
> > I presume that KDE did it always so the change must be something in Gtk
> > rc files processing. PLEASE could anybody finally fix it?
> > 
> > -andrej
> > 
> 
> 

-- 
Guillaume Cottenceau - http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/

[Cooker] Mandrake Out-Mandraked?

[Leon Brooks]

Not that I want this much Windows integration by default, but it's a nice 
option to offer, perhaps as a ``make my computer more like Windows but 
without the crashes and security holes'' check-box during install and/or as a 
new-user window manager option for those who do:

http://www.desktoplinux.com/articles/AT2800785910.html

Cheers; Leon

RE: [Cooker] kernel-source does not provide kernel-source (and inst.list)

[Borsenkow Andrej]

> > borsenkow> and, please, add kernel-source to /etc/urpmi/inst.list
> >
> > fpons?
> 
> I can add it, but this will no more be upgradable (unable to be
selected,
> except
> by explicit require on version and release ?).
> 

With new scheme it is not upgradeable anyway - you always have a unique
RPM name. Incidentally, it is the same with kernel.

Well, many people requested the ability to have multiple kernel-sources
installed. I just do not like when urpmi --auto-select overwrites
kernel-source.

But may be you are right, those who care can add it manually.

Thoughts?

-andrej

Re: [Cooker] What's up with mozilla 0.9.6 and libpng?

[Guillaume Cottenceau]

Lance Klein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I am getting the following errors trying to run galeon-1.0.1 (I upgraded
> from galeon-0.12.8):
> 
>  libpng warning: Application was compiled with png.h from libpng-1.2.0
>  libpng warning: Application  is running with png.c from libpng-1.0.12
>  libpng error: Incompatible libpng version in application and library
> 
> I had to upgrade from mozilla-0.9.5 to install galeon.  My current
> (relevant) packages are:
> 
>  libpng2-devel-1.0.12-2mdk
>  libpng2-1.0.12-2mdk
>  libpng3-1.2.0-3mdk
>  nautilus-mozilla-1.0.4-13mdk
>  mozilla-fonts-2310-8mdk
>  mozilla-0.9.6-3mdk
>  libnspr4-0.9.6-3mdk
>  libnss3-0.9.6-3mdk
>  galeon-1.0.1-1mdk
> 
> My box is Mandrake 8.1 with cooker upgrades for evolution-1.0,
> kde-2.2.2, and galeon/mozilla.  No other cooker upgrades really.

This won't work, you need to upgrade the whole distrib to use
latest galeon.



-- 
Guillaume Cottenceau - http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/

Re: [Cooker] kernel-source does not provide kernel-source (and inst.list)

[François Pons]

Juan Quintela <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> borsenkow> and, please, add kernel-source to /etc/urpmi/inst.list
> 
> fpons?

I can add it, but this will no more be upgradable (unable to be selected, except
by explicit require on version and release ?).

François.

Re: [Cooker] ext3 not found in stage1.log

[Pixel]

Guillaume Cottenceau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> > Here is the report:
> > * err, fstab and partition table do not agree for hda9 type: ext3 vs ext2
> 
> Pixel, could this error come from the fact that hda9 was mounted
> ext2 during stage1, although it's actually ext3? It would
> surprise me but..?

maybe? hd installs are hard to test :-/

Re: [Cooker] BUGS

[Guillaume Cottenceau]

Yura Gusev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> In IceWM if i use any theme menu buttom is still same.

Please use a relevant subject for your mails..



-- 
Guillaume Cottenceau - http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/

Re: [Cooker] 2.4.16-6mdk on an IBM 600E

[Leon Brooks]

On Monday 10 December 2001 17:30, Myles Byrne wrote:
> I just downloaded kernel-2.4.16-6mdk and am attempting to install it, in
> order to get sound and networking going on a IBM 600e.

Sound... wlll... your mileage is likely to vary from chip to chip. The 
600E uses a NeoMagic chipset for sound and video and so far the two 600Es 
I've dealt with suppoorted sound flawlessy (in one case) and not at all (in 
the other: module loaded, did nothing). IBM might have something specific on 
it.

Networking was never a problem for me.

A number of chipset manufacturers have taken to integrating odd things 
together; for example a SiS 6326 integrates (bodgy) video, AGP and IDE 
controllers on one chip. I guess the video-only cards and videoless 6326 
motherboards are using chips with one or more non-functional sections 
lobotomised.

Cheers; Leon

Re: [Cooker] Problems Upgrading to Latest Cooker

[Guillaume Cottenceau]

Sergio Korlowsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Mandrake Linux release 8.2 (Cooker) for i586
> --
> 
> Can't upgrade to latest cooker
> 
> I tried upgrading to today's cooker and I have the same error I got a couple 
> of days back.  (could it be the installing floppy image?) I am using one made 
> from last week's cooker.
> 
> /lib/modules.cz-2.4-13-9mdkBOOT   missing (?)

Upgrade your install floppy.
 
> I don't have ANY kernel-2.4.13-9 installed rather a 2.4.13-12  but working 
> with kernel-2.4.8-31 due to sound troubles with my sound blaster Live.


-- 
Guillaume Cottenceau - http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/

Re: [Cooker] ext3 not found in stage1.log

[Guillaume Cottenceau]

guran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Hi
> 
> VERSION:(rsync ftp.sunet.se)
> Mandrake Linux Cooker-i586 20011208 18:54
> 
> This is from stage1.log:

Finally this "stage1.log" is useful :-)).

> * guessing type of /dev/hda1
> * guessing type of /dev/hda5
> * guessing type of /dev/hda6
> * guessing type of /dev/hda7
> * guessing type of /dev/hda8
> * guessing type of /dev/hda9
> * mounting /dev/hda9 on /tmp/hdimage as type ext2
> * Total Memory: 256 Mbytes
> * trying to load /tmp/image/Mandrake/base/mdkinst_stage2.bz2 as a ramdisk
> * mounting /dev/ram3 on /tmp/stage2 as type ext2

Yes we don't have ext3 driver in stage1, but it should not be
needed, normally.
 
> But this is from report.bug (earlier than stage1.log):

Euh ? report.bug should contain stage1.log.

> <6>Journalled Block Device driver loaded
> <6>kjournald starting.  Commit interval 5 seconds
> <6>EXT3 FS 2.4-0.9.15, 06 Nov 2001 on ide0(3,8), internal journal
> <6>EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode.
> <6>kjournald starting.  Commit interval 5 seconds
> <6>EXT3 FS 2.4-0.9.15, 06 Nov 2001 on ide0(3,6), internal journal
> <6>EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode.
> <6>kjournald starting.  Commit interval 5 seconds
> <6>EXT3 FS 2.4-0.9.15, 06 Nov 2001 on ide0(3,7), internal journal
> <6>EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode.
> ...
> 
> Here is the report:
> * err, fstab and partition table do not agree for hda9 type: ext3 vs ext2

Pixel, could this error come from the fact that hda9 was mounted
ext2 during stage1, although it's actually ext3? It would
surprise me but..?



-- 
Guillaume Cottenceau - http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/

RE: [Cooker] Ham Radio RPM packages

[Richard Bown (QMW)]

I agree,the ax25 and netrom packages are built in as modules on the standard kernel, 
but you always have to compile in tunneling. HINT HINT
TIA
73 richard g8jvm

-Original Message-
From: Laurent Grawet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2001 3:37 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Cooker] Ham Radio RPM packages


Hi to all,

I know there are a lot of amateurs who are using Mandrake but can't find any ham 
packages for their favorite distro. Many of them have switched to Suse which provides 
a great quantity of packages for ham radio (There is also Debian or Slackware). It 
would be nice if all packages related to Ham radio could be integrated to the main 
three CD's of the distro. I would like to ask to radio amateurs who are developping or 
contributing with packages for Mandrake whether they will be interested in creating a 
small group for making RPMS related to ham radio ?

It would be nice if Mandrake could become some kind of reference in Ham Radio !

Thanks for your help.

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|
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RE: [Cooker] kernel-source installation

[Borsenkow Andrej]

[I missed the original post]

> guran> The package ncurses-devel does not exist, what is needed is
> guran> libncurses5-devel-5.2-16mdk.i586.
> 

[root@cooker src]# rpm -q --whatprovides ncurses-devel
libncurses5-devel-5.2-16mdk

so urpmi should do it correctly (and always did). 


> guran> Please, change this.
> 
> Fixed in -5mdk.
> 

If you mean changing requires: ncurses-devel into requires:
libncurses5-devel - do not do it. Then you'll have to do it every time
packages name changes which is stupid.


-andrej

Re: [Cooker] kernel src link (2.4.16-6mdk)

[Juan Quintela]

> "quel" == Quel Qun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

quel> * Sat Dec 08 2001 Juan Quintela <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 1-1mdk
quel> (...)
quel> - fix name of the /usr/src/linux-2.4.16-6mdk
quel> - 2.4.16-6mdk.

quel> Oh really? But now the linux link is broken again ;-)

quel> $ ll /usr/src/

quel> linux -> linux-2.4.16.6mdk
quel> linux-2.4.16-6mdk/

Really fixed in -7mdk (to reach mirrors later today).

Thanks for the info.

Later, Juan.

-- 
In theory, practice and theory are the same, but in practice they 
are different -- Larry McVoy

Re: [Cooker] kernel-source does not provide kernel-source (and inst.list)

[Juan Quintela]

> "borsenkow" == Borsenkow Andrej <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

borsenkow> {pts/2}% rpm -q --whatprovides kernel-source
borsenkow> kernel-source-2.4.13-12mdk
borsenkow> {pts/2}% rpm -q --provides kernel-source-2.4.16.4mdk-1-1mdk
borsenkow> alsa-source
borsenkow> kernel-source-2.4.16.4mdk = 1-1mdk

borsenkow> please add correct provides
Fixed.

borsenkow> and, please, add kernel-source to /etc/urpmi/inst.list

fpons?

Later, Juan.


-- 
In theory, practice and theory are the same, but in practice they 
are different -- Larry McVoy

Re: [Cooker] kernel-source installation

[Juan Quintela]

> "guran" == guran  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

guran> Hi
guran> VERSION:(rsync ftp.sunet.se)
guran> Mandrake Linux Cooker-i586 20011207 20:50
guran> /ChangeLog/1.607/Wed Dec  5 23:11:39 2001//

guran> I had problems installing my NVIDIA drivers and found out that
guran> kernel-source was not installed, although I had opted for the
guran> development package.

guran> Used mc to go into my hd-mirror and used rpm, but was informed that
guran> ncurses-devel was to be needed. Couldn't find it in the mirror. Used rpm
guran> -q --whatprovides -> no help.

guran> This is in Gnome, as the new kdebase will not install, tried as a user
guran> to launch mcc, but my su passwd was not enough. I had to go into su in
guran> console and then run mcc.

guran> The package ncurses-devel does not exist, what is needed is
guran> libncurses5-devel-5.2-16mdk.i586.

guran> Please, change this.

Fixed in -5mdk.

Later, Juan.



-- 
In theory, practice and theory are the same, but in practice they 
are different -- Larry McVoy

Re: [Cooker] kernel-source link still wrong

[Juan Quintela]

> "borsenkow" == Borsenkow Andrej <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

borsenkow> * Sat Dec 08 2001 Juan Quintela <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 1-1mdk
borsenkow> - new vlan patch (1.6).
borsenkow> - new newnat & h323 code (P620 & P621) (decided to wait this one, lot
borsenkow> of incompatible changes.
borsenkow> - added i686 configs for Jeff.
borsenkow> - fix name of the /usr/src/linux-2.4.16-6mdk
borsenkow> 

borsenkow> Is it a Christmas joke?

borsenkow> [root@cooker src]# ll
borsenkow> total 2
borsenkow> lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   17 Dec 10 12:35 linux ->
borsenkow> linux-2.4.16.6mdk
borsenkow> drwxr-xr-x   18 root root  680 Dec 10 12:35
borsenkow> linux-2.4.16-6mdk/
borsenkow> drwxr-xr-x7 root root  200 Nov 26 22:20 RPM/

Fixed in -7mdk this time for sure :(

Later, Juan.

-- 
In theory, practice and theory are the same, but in practice they 
are different -- Larry McVoy

Re: [Cooker] manually create list.* out of hdlist.* and/or synthesis.*

[François Pons]

Warly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> in perl:
> 
> opendir RPMS, "PATH_TO_YOUT_RPMS";
> open L, ">/var/lib/urpmi/list.cooker";
> print L "file:/PATH_TO_YOUT_RPMS/", join "\nfile:/PATH_TO_YOUR_RPMS/", grep { 
>/\.rpm$/} readdir RPMS;

print L join "\n", map { "file:/PATH_TO_YOUR_RPMS/$_" } grep { /\.rpm$/} readdir RPMS;

Re: [Cooker] oaf-0.6.7-2mdk.i586.rpm

[Frederic Crozat]

On Mon, 10 Dec 2001 11:26:54 +0100, Rene Schumann wrote:

> Am Mon, 2001-12-10 um 10.48 schrieb Frederic Crozat:
> On Sun, 09 Dec 2001 12:05:51 +0100, Rene Schumann wrote:
> > Hello!
> > 
> > It seems that liboaf0-0.6.7-2mdk.i586.rpm is need by
> > oaf-0.6.7-2mdk.i586.rpm but there are no such dependences.
> 
> Fist, stop posting in html,
> 
> sorry
> 
> second, you need to upgrade BOTH packages (there is a dependency in
> liboaf !!)
> --
> Frédéric Crozat
> MandrakeSoft
> 
> 
> I have upgraded galeon and evolution and there was a missing dependence
> to oaf-xxx.rpm.
> If i tried to update oaf-xxx.rpm i got this error above. If you say that
> all is ok because dependences are in liboaf then it will be ok and i
> will nothing post in this list anymore. For me, dependences in liboaf
> hasnt utilized, because i should update oaf not liboaf.

Use urpmi to upgrade and you won't have any problem...

And as a reminder, installation of cooker packages on 8.1 is not
supported..

-- 
Frédéric Crozat
MandrakeSoft

[Cooker] kernel-source link still wrong

[Borsenkow Andrej]

* Sat Dec 08 2001 Juan Quintela <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 1-1mdk

- new vlan patch (1.6).
- new newnat & h323 code (P620 & P621) (decided to wait this one, lot
  of incompatible changes.
- added i686 configs for Jeff.
- fix name of the /usr/src/linux-2.4.16-6mdk


Is it a Christmas joke?

[root@cooker src]# ll
total 2
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   17 Dec 10 12:35 linux ->
linux-2.4.16.6mdk
drwxr-xr-x   18 root root  680 Dec 10 12:35
linux-2.4.16-6mdk/
drwxr-xr-x7 root root  200 Nov 26 22:20 RPM/

Re: [Cooker] oaf-0.6.7-2mdk.i586.rpm

[Rene Schumann]

Am Mon, 2001-12-10 um 10.48 schrieb Frederic Crozat:
On Sun, 09 Dec 2001 12:05:51 +0100, Rene Schumann wrote:
> Hello!
> 
> It seems that liboaf0-0.6.7-2mdk.i586.rpm is need by
> oaf-0.6.7-2mdk.i586.rpm but there are no such dependences.

Fist, stop posting in html, 

sorry

second, you need to upgrade BOTH packages (there is a dependency in
liboaf !!)
-- 
Frédéric Crozat
MandrakeSoft


I have upgraded galeon and evolution and there was a missing dependence
to oaf-xxx.rpm.
If i tried to update oaf-xxx.rpm i got this error above.
If you say that all is ok because dependences are in liboaf then it will
be ok and i will nothing post in this list anymore.
For me, dependences in liboaf hasnt utilized, because i should update
oaf not liboaf.


mfg
Rene

RE: [Cooker] manually create list.* out of hdlist.* and/or synthesis.*

[Borsenkow Andrej]

> 
> > As I cannot add second source in normal way, I thought I could just
copy
> > hdlists and synthesis for cooker and contrib. over. But then I have
to
> > regenerate list.* files. Is it possible to manually do it?
> 
> in perl:
> 
> opendir RPMS, "PATH_TO_YOUT_RPMS";
> open L, ">/var/lib/urpmi/list.cooker";
> print L "file:/PATH_TO_YOUT_RPMS/", join "\nfile:/PATH_TO_YOUR_RPMS/",
grep
> { /\.rpm$/} readdir RPMS;
> 


Ahh ... ehh ... you are right of course; I meant actually "generate from
hdlist/synthesis" as I'd like to have them in sync, but may be it is
enough really.

Thank you

-andrej

RE: [Cooker] kernel-source does not provide kernel-source (and inst.list)

[Borsenkow Andrej]

> 
> {pts/2}% rpm -q --whatprovides kernel-source
> kernel-source-2.4.13-12mdk
> {pts/2}% rpm -q --provides kernel-source-2.4.16.4mdk-1-1mdk
> alsa-source
> kernel-source-2.4.16.4mdk = 1-1mdk
> 
> please add correct provides
> 
> and, please, add kernel-source to /etc/urpmi/inst.list
> 

Even more funny (or do I miss something):

[root@cooker root]# urpmi -p kernel-source
installing
/downloads/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/kernel-source-2.4.16.6mdk-1-1mdk.i5
86.rpm
Preparing...
##
kernel-source-2.4.16.6mdk
##
 [root@cooker root]# rpm -q --whatprovides kernel-source
kernel-source-2.4.13-12mdk
[root@cooker root]# rpm -q --provides kernel-source-2.4.16.6mdk
alsa-source  
kernel-source-2.4.16.6mdk = 1-1mdk


So kernel-source-2.4.16.6mdk does not provide kernel-source but urpmi
happily installs it. Confused.

Re: [Cooker] manually create list.* out of hdlist.* and/orsynthesis.*

[Warly]

Borsenkow Andrej <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> As I cannot add second source in normal way, I thought I could just copy
> hdlists and synthesis for cooker and contrib. over. But then I have to
> regenerate list.* files. Is it possible to manually do it?

in perl:

opendir RPMS, "PATH_TO_YOUT_RPMS";
open L, ">/var/lib/urpmi/list.cooker";
print L "file:/PATH_TO_YOUT_RPMS/", join "\nfile:/PATH_TO_YOUR_RPMS/", grep { 
/\.rpm$/} readdir RPMS;

-- 
Warly

Re: [Cooker] rpmdrake-1.4-1 problem

[François Pons]

Borsenkow Andrej <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Not before it is tested. But if it was intentional, good, let's test it.

Sorry I make rpmdrake a bit too fast whenever synthesis support was seeming to
work on it.

Yes, it was intentional because urpmi allow it and (in fact or is enough) kernel
naming has been modified to allow upgrade of kernel (name different).

I just checked serial management seems not to much broken (at least run on
cooker), synthesis support was running correctly up to install and removed all
code of rpmdrake managing cache and hdlist reading to get list of package, now
parse directly synthesis managed by urpmi 3.0 or above.

> I just wish a short changelog entry about it (as it was when kernel was
> made hidden).

Sorry, this is my fault.

François.

Re: [Cooker] oaf-0.6.7-2mdk.i586.rpm

[Frederic Crozat]

On Sun, 09 Dec 2001 12:05:51 +0100, Rene Schumann wrote:
> Hello!
> 
> It seems that liboaf0-0.6.7-2mdk.i586.rpm is need by
> oaf-0.6.7-2mdk.i586.rpm but there are no such dependences.

Fist, stop posting in html, 
second, you need to upgrade BOTH packages (there is a dependency in
liboaf !!)
-- 
Frédéric Crozat
MandrakeSoft

Re: [Cooker] urpmi - missing quotes in postinstall script (source names with spaces problem)

[François Pons]

Borsenkow Andrej <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> > I can confirm this too.
> 
> {pts/2}% rpm -q --scripts urpmi
> postinstall scriptlet (through /bin/sh):
> cd /var/lib/urpmi
> rm -f compss provides depslist*
> misconfigured=0
> for hdlist in hdlist.*; do
>   [ -s synthesis.$hdlist ] || misconfigured=1
>  ^^^

Thanks, I fixed exit code and broke postinstall.

I fix it.

François.

Re: [Cooker] new urpmi and zsh urpmi completion

[François Pons]

Borsenkow Andrej <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Plain parsehdlist works just fine. But getting just (and only) rpm names
> (without .i586.rpm) would be even better of course.

parsehdlist is slow (because of parsing headers), it may be faster to use something 
like this one :
  gzip -dc /var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.* | perl -ne 's/\@info\@([^\@]*)/$1/' and 
print "$1\n"'

François.

[Cooker] Netscape 6.2.1 Released

[guran]

Hi

Running nicely in Cooker.

regards
guran

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Mandrake Linux 8.2 Cooker kernel-2.4.16.6mdk-1-1mdk version:2001:12:08:18:54

[Cooker] 2.4.16-6mdk on an IBM 600E

[Myles Byrne]

I've searched the web and the archives and this is my last resort.

I just downloaded kernel-2.4.16-6mdk and am attempting to install it, in
order to get sound and networking going on a IBM 600e. I have
re-complilied it a number of times now progressing from 

request_module[ide] : root fs not mounted

I then installed modular support for all the ide devices supported in
the kernel (except the RAID ones). And how i get this (i assume its
better than the previous error but have recompiled twice tweaking a few
different things and cant get past it)

request_module[block-major-3] : Root fs not mounted
Kernel Panic : VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 03:07

All i need is a quick shove in the right direction... anything at all.

PS. The old kernel still boots so im sure nothing's corrupted
-- 

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Re: [Cooker] sgml-tools & co. weirdness...

[camille]

"R.I.P. Deaddog" a écrit :
> 
> These packages are taken from redhat, and the post/postun/whatever
> scripts are walking-on-thin-ice scripts. So I tend not to touch
> them at all. Obviously they need more testing to become robust.
> Currently, once they are installed, I will stay away from them
> as much as possible.
> 
> Camille? Here? Any comment?

Yep, you are absolutely right. 
Problem is this catalog issue is a huge problem handled differently by
many SGML/XML parsers/processors. There is a discussion going on at
[EMAIL PROTECTED] which tends to separate SGML from XML
catalogs, which would complicate things even more.
My advice: wait and pray.

> PS As a side note, gtk-doc seems to be very unhappy about
>docbook-style-dsssl missing docbook.css file. Will it be
>added back?

I have no idea. If requested I guess I can take it back from an old
version...

Camille.

Re: [Cooker] Fix for recent kernel compilation error

[Chmouel Boudjnah]

Borsenkow Andrej <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Posted by David D. Huff Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

upgrade to latest binutils, that should be fixed also there.

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Re: [Cooker] Konqueror

[Yura Gusev]

On 9 Dec 2001, Michael Golden wrote:

> Although not directly related, this is a parallel that I've wondered
> about for a little while. It it possible to split up packages like
> kdenetwork and just have the individual packages depend on kdebase,
> kdelibs, etc? The only reason I have kdenetwork installed is for kmail
> but I'm forced to also have things like kit, knode, kppp, ksirc, etc
> that I don't want to have but can't remove without removing kmail also.
>
> Michael
>
Just to install kmail

apt-get install kdenetwork
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  htdig kdebase kdelibs kdelibs-sound kdenetwork krootwarning libarts2 libogg0 
libvorbis0 mtools
  gdb ppp libldap2 libpcre0 libsasl7 libxslt1
Need to get 64.6MB of archives. After unpacking 201MB will be used.
 Wah yeah boom.
That not the Unix way IMHO!

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Re: [Cooker] XP <-> Mdk in multimedia

[Mathias BAVAY]

David wrote:
> Yes! Yes! Yes! Terminals must stay! 

I agree ! Of course, terminals are very powerfull, pleaseant tu use,
 But we must remember our feeling the first time we were in front of
a terminal  So the new user must be able to configure everything
using a GUI, and after some time, we could try to teach him that a shel
is not such an 'old stuff', that it's not so difficult, it's powerfull,
...

> I agree that I wish the multimedia was easier to setup and working, but
> that is about the only thing.  

I'm sorry, but with Mdk 8.0, I had NOTHING to do to setup sound It
worked out of the box without even one mouse click to configure
something related to sound... With 8.1, I had to correct some bugs, but
I hope that would be corrected (see my previous message). My mdk 8.0 has
been installed on 2 others computers, without ANY trouble related to
multimedia (of course, NOTHING to do to setup sound, and only the
channels to configure for the TV card. One of my friend told me how
easier it has been to install mdk compared to MS Windows, on the same
machine)

And for realplayer,  that kind of stuff is included in the
powerpack. So I think the "mandrake de haute couture" is already out,
it's called "mdk 8.xx Powerpack". But of course, multimedia in general
has to be cleaned in the kernel, sound support would have to be cleaned,
... But this is more a devellopper's point of view, to prepare the
future and make it easier to manage sound in a clean way, but not an end
user's point of view (well, for people using multimedia for professional
purpose, it could be different).

Mathias
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